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06-16-2017 09:09 AM
rus59
Re: Ask the board Thread

Is there any EL maker for 128 draw tournaments or is 64 the biggest?
06-03-2017 03:12 PM
Litotes
Re: Ask the board Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by rus59 View Post
Rules say deadline can be extended if qualifying starts on Sunday.
Can it be extended only in doubles? Singles draws were full and doubles weren't. Or I can't accept these new doubles teams and should make them alternates for qualifying? It might be a bit unfair for those who will be forced to play qualifying instead of staying in the main draw because of that.
Noone should be pushed out of the main draw from people signing up after the 2nd deadline. If the draw is not full you can prolong to fill it. If it is then it stays.
06-03-2017 12:26 PM
DJDVD
Re: Ask the board Thread

^Note: MDs were full for both singles and doubles. Only spots for qualifying doubles
06-03-2017 12:21 PM
rus59
Re: Ask the board Thread

Rules say deadline can be extended if qualifying starts on Sunday.
Can it be extended only in doubles? Singles draws were full and doubles weren't. Or I can't accept these new doubles teams and should make them alternates for qualifying? It might be a bit unfair for those who will be forced to play qualifying instead of staying in the main draw because of that.
05-21-2017 06:21 PM
BMT360
Re: Ask the board Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by coolfish1103 View Post
I can't find such rule in MTF so just want to make sure...

Lucky loser order for non-sender in qualifying final round, before or after senders who lost in qualifying first round?
Before.

I'm not on the board but I can help you.
05-21-2017 06:13 PM
coolfish1103
Re: Ask the board Thread

I can't find such rule in MTF so just want to make sure...

Lucky loser order for non-sender in qualifying final round, before or after senders who lost in qualifying first round?
05-08-2017 06:45 PM
Randy
Re: Ask the board Thread

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Originally Posted by Normand View Post
In Aix en Provence CH, there's a problem with the (official) OOP. We still don't know the name of Olivo's opponent tomorrow (a LL).
I posted an OOP with LUCKY LOSER vs Renzo OLIVO (ARG) as last match of my TT OOP. Is this OK or should I delete this match (there would still be 12 matches for Round 2 tomorrow) ?
I say just leave it off
05-08-2017 06:27 PM
Normand
Re: Ask the board Thread

In Aix en Provence CH, there's a problem with the (official) OOP. We still don't know the name of Olivo's opponent tomorrow (a LL).
I posted an OOP with LUCKY LOSER vs Renzo OLIVO (ARG) as last match of my TT OOP. Is this OK or should I delete this match (there would still be 12 matches for Round 2 tomorrow) ?
04-29-2017 10:01 AM
Litotes
Re: Ask the board Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edy. View Post
OK I have a situation.

Looks like Ricardo Soler committed to Munich but I didn't realise that until now. Him and his partner are in the doubles qualies draw in Istanbul. They have a QR1 BYE.

Should I re-do the draw and remove them or just have the highest losing team move into the next round? I guess the second option because the diffs have already been posted but I'm not sure.

Thanks
If diffs are already posted just give the spot to the highest scoring losers.
04-29-2017 08:29 AM
Edy.
Re: Ask the board Thread

OK I have a situation.

Looks like Ricardo Soler committed to Munich but I didn't realise that until now. Him and his partner are in the doubles qualies draw in Istanbul. They have a QR1 BYE.

Should I re-do the draw and remove them or just have the highest losing team move into the next round? I guess the second option because the diffs have already been posted but I'm not sure.

Thanks
04-18-2017 03:06 PM
Mahqz
Re: Ask the board Thread

Last year we had a discussion somewhere that we shouldn't give wildcards for tournaments with a 32 player draw. Now we're back at this point as I still have Queen's/Halle on my list. Next bigger draw would be Hamburg which is far away. What shall we do?
04-08-2017 07:03 PM
keqtqiadv
Re: Ask the board Thread

03:03 | Rodrigo R3 vs. Le Luka Erceg #SRs: 3-3, # Sets to the winner: 1-0
03:03 | rjd vs. coolfish1103 #SRs: 3-3, # Sets to the winner: 2-1
04-08-2017 05:57 PM
dinkulpus
Re: Ask the board Thread

I'm not sure for this winners. As I'm using the old spreadsheet because my PC can't open the new one.



@Litotes
@ibreak4coffee
@keqtqiadv
@Randy
@Litotes

Code:
RodrigoR3	Le Luke Erceg
No pick CERVANTES 76 62
CARBALLES BAENA 63 46 64	CARBALLES BAENA 2:0
COPIL 63 64	COPIL 2:1
DONSKOY 63 64	DONSKOY 2:0
RUBLEV 63 75	RUBLEV 2:0
LEE 76 64	LEE 2:0
STAKHOVSKY 64 63	STAKHOVSKY 2:0
DANIEL 63 62 	DANIEL 2:0
Code:
rjd	coolfish1103
CERVANTES 64 36 63	CERVANTES 6-4 3-6 6-3
CARBALLES BAENA 63 63	CARBALLES BAENA 6-4 6-3
COPIL 64 64	COPIl 6-4 6-3
DONSKOY 75 64	DONSKOY 6-4 6-3
RUBLEV 46 75 64	RUBLEV 6-4 6-3
LEE 64 63	LEE 6-4 6-3
STAKHOVSKY 64 64	STAKHOVSKY 6-2 6-3
DANIEL 62 62 	DANIEL 6-3 6-2
Code:
Scores 

2	Vanni	2-1
1	Bublik	2-0
2	Djere	
2	Quinzi	2-1
1	Ward	2-0
2	Lee	2-0
1	Stakhovsky	2-0
1	Daniel	2-0
04-03-2017 10:34 AM
rus59
Re: Ask the board Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Walsall View Post
In 14d Santa Margherita, there is a match where none of the players sent. I don't remember what I should do with that. Will the best R1 loser of the whole draw take the R2 spot corresponding to the match where no-one sent?
Yes, that's the rule.

Quote:
3.1.6.1 First round & Matches where neither player sends picks
- After the alternates/lucky losers placement, if there's still a match where both players or teams have failed to send picks, the loser with the best score in this round will take their spot in the following round as a lucky loser.
- This exception applies to both the qualifying event and the Main Draw.
03-20-2017 11:42 PM
keqtqiadv
Re: Ask the board Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibreak4coffee View Post
Hey guys could I get a second pair of eyes on this please?

http://www.menstennisforums.com/38249793-post263.html

BMT360 pointed out that I placed the ALT into the one match where no one sent and that means they go through rather than the first seed. His argument is that the first seed should advance and the other player placed against the ALT.

My reading of the rules is that "3.1.5.6 How to place Alternates & Lucky losers in the draw sub b)" just states you place the ALT as a priority into the match where there's no picks.

Who's right?

Code:
]3.1.5.6 How to place Alternates & Lucky losers in the draw

Placement's basics:

Quote:
- More or equal alt/LL than missing players: check itens a, b, c & d (flowchart: link).
- Less alt/LL than missing players but more or equal alt/LL than matches with two missing players: check itens a, b, c, d, e & f (flowchart: link).
- Less alt/LL than matches with two missing players: check itens a, b, c, d, e, f, g & h (flowchart: link).
a) Alternates/lucky losers should be placed according to the list order: first alternate/lucky loser gets placed first, second alternate/lucky loser gets placed second etc.

b) Place the first alternates/lucky losers in matches where neither player sends picks.
Quote:
Example (basics 'b'):

Draw
#1 vs. #8 Missing picks from #8
#5 vs. #4 - Missing picks from #5 and #4 (place the first alt/LL here)
#3 vs. #7
#2 vs. #6

The first alt/LL must be placed in the second match (where both players failed to send picks).

#1 vs. #8
#5 vs. LL1
#3 vs. #7
#2 vs. #6
Item 'b' is the first real step, but it doesn't stop there. You have to go through items a-f.
Quote:
- Less alt/LL than missing players but more or equal alt/LL than matches with two missing players: check itens a, b, c, d, e & f.
Item 'a' states that LL must be placed according to the list order. The first step is to place the LL in matches where neither player sent (item 'b', according to the order described in item 'c'). Then, if there are any LL left, they must be placed according to item 'd'. After these two steps, if there are LL placed against a missing player, the draw should be rearranged so that the best ranked players receive byes instead (item 'e', according to the order described in item 'f').
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