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02-16-2013 03:59 PM
erickmartins
Re: Best football league in the world?

Sure, a league where the powerful Rayo Vallecano is ONLY sixth shows how strong it is.
02-16-2013 02:38 PM
born_on_clay
Re: Best football league in the world?

La Liga and it's not even close
02-14-2013 07:52 PM
LeChuck
Re: Best football league in the world?

Since the 2006-2009 golden age of the Premier League, Fulham reached the Europa League final in 2010 (beating two German teams en-route), Man Utd reached the Champions League final in 2011 and Chelsea won the Champions League in 2012. Those are still very strong results.

Serie A teams care less about the Europa League teams than EPL ones do, and have had a much worse record in the competition in recent years. That was actually a major reason why they were overtaken by the Bundesliga in the coefficient table, and lost their 4th champions league place. Inter winning the 2010 Champions League and Fulham beating Hamburg in the Europa League semis prevented that from happening a year earlier.
02-14-2013 06:14 PM
GOAT = Fed
Re: Best football league in the world?

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Originally Posted by nazzac View Post
12/13 so far
England: GS,GS,16 GW,16 GRU
Spain: 16 GW,16 GW,16 GRU,16 GRU
Germany: QR,16 GW,16 GW,16 GW

11/12
England: GS,GS,16,W
Spain: GS,GS,SF,SF
Germany: GS,16,F

10/11
England: 16,QF,QF,F
Spain: QR,16,SF,W
Germany: GS,16,SF

09/10
England: GS,16,QF,QF
Spain: GS,16,16,SF
Germany: GS,16,F

08/09
England: QF,SF,SF,F
Spain: 16,16,QF,W
Germany: QR,GS,QF

Seems to me like the Overall performance of English teams is getting worse. And then you look at the Europa League, where the English clubs haven't done all that well recently and then you'll see that Spain has the best record in Europe recently
Yes of course it's gotten worse from the 2006-2009 years and possibly is still going towards a downhill trend but it still holds it's own against Spain and is usually doing better than Germany and Italy. That in itself speaks volumes about the English teams in the European competitions.
02-14-2013 05:08 PM
rocketassist
Re: Best football league in the world?

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Originally Posted by The Bulldog View Post
You're just throwing pointless ideas into the argument. The co-efficients of the leagues don't matter beyond the fact that they allocate Champions League places to each country based on it. Let's face it, England is no danger whatsoever of losing its fourth UCL place, so the co-efficients don't matter to us.

With regards to the Europa League, I'm sure teams would take it more seriously if matches were played on a Tuesday or Wednesday rather than a Thursday for a start.

And what would a team like Chelsea gain from going far in the Europa League? Absolutely nothing. They're better off without it, as are most teams.
The Europa League is a European trophy that's why.
02-14-2013 04:33 PM
nazzac
Re: Best football league in the world?

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bulldog View Post
You're just throwing pointless ideas into the argument. The co-efficients of the leagues don't matter beyond the fact that they allocate Champions League places to each country based on it. Let's face it, England is no danger whatsoever of losing its fourth UCL place, so the co-efficients don't matter to us.

With regards to the Europa League, I'm sure teams would take it more seriously if matches were played on a Tuesday or Wednesday rather than a Thursday for a start.

And what would a team like Chelsea gain from going far in the Europa League? Absolutely nothing. They're better off without it, as are most teams.
Fair point about Co-effeciencies.

On your 2nd point, It's the same for every foreign team in the Europa league. It's not just English teams that have to play on a Thursday. Yet they take it more seriously, so why can't English teams. It's a complete lack of respect from England.

A team like Chelsea would gain a trophy. Would you rather finish a season trophyless or win the Europa League? And what about clubs like Newcastle, and Liverpool who are mid table PL sides. It should be a great oppertunity for them to get a trophy beating some good teams along the way. IMO, the Europa League winner should get a Champions League spot, as should the FA Cup winner. Teams are more focussed about finishing 4th now, than winning trophys which is a massive shame (and that applies everywhere and not just the PL btw)

Here's what i don't like about the English league.

- The style. It's just hoofball most of the time, and i don't like it. Some teams can play decent stuff, but overall the standard of football is terrible.

- The money. The PL is all about money. It's a business and not a sport. Overpaid players, the tickets are a rip off etc... I can go see Dortmund for a cheaper price than Conference Sides.

- The fans. English fans are not very good compared to the rest of Europe, especially with the top teams. Whenever a foreign club comes to England their fans always outsing English fans, despite being outnumbered 10-1. Type Dortmund fans in Manchester into Youtube for a really good example.

- Expanding on fans, Their complete lack of respect to anything that is not English. They refuse to accept that anything that is not from this country is better, Especially when it's to do with Germany. "2 World Wars 1 world cup". What a load of crap, it's really pathetic. I've been called a Nazi for supporting Dortmund and following German football. "Yeah, but they are German, they are Nazis" etc... Holding one generation responsible for another generations actions and then bringing it into something completely irrelevant as football is pathetic, but frequently found in England.

More Examples:

"Foreign players can't handle the Premier League"- Mata and Silva have been world beaters since coming over, and they weren't 'world class' in La Liga

"[Insert Foreign League is crap]"- Yet they have never watched a game from that league.

"Could Messi do it in a cold rainy night in Stoke"

Also, this assumption that so many have that English sides are the favourites every single game they play except Barca/Madrid/Bayern. Man City v Dortmund, so many were expecting a routine Man City win, but what happened was Dortmund dominating City and being unlucky not to win.

- The Sky Marketing campaign. Fail to recognise anything that is not English. "The PL is the best league in the world" and all that stuff. Whats worse is that most peoples opinions are based on what they say.

- This crap about is being the most exciting league in the world, when other leagues have had more title winners, average more goals, and have had more teams competing for European places.

I could go on...
02-14-2013 03:40 PM
The Prince
Re: Best football league in the world?

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Originally Posted by nazzac View Post
Everyone but the British teams

Thats just Arrogance from British teams. Thinking they are too good for the Europa League. It's going to bite them in the ass when Germany moves ahead of them in UEFA's league rankings
You're just throwing pointless ideas into the argument. The co-efficients of the leagues don't matter beyond the fact that they allocate Champions League places to each country based on it. Let's face it, England is no danger whatsoever of losing its fourth UCL place, so the co-efficients don't matter to us.

With regards to the Europa League, I'm sure teams would take it more seriously if matches were played on a Tuesday or Wednesday rather than a Thursday for a start.

And what would a team like Chelsea gain from going far in the Europa League? Absolutely nothing. They're better off without it, as are most teams.
02-14-2013 03:25 PM
rocketassist
Re: Best football league in the world?

QPR are beyond shit.
02-14-2013 01:13 PM
nazzac
Re: Best football league in the world?

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Originally Posted by Corey Feldman View Post
here is another reason for EPL

which teams in other leagues can be bottom of 20 team league and have players like Julio Cesar, Loic Remy, Bosingwa, Ji sung Park, Granero, Samba (12,000,000 signing)

in Romania they would be league champions
There's one reason for that...



It's the same thing that will bite the PL in the ass once FFP comes in. And just because they pay big wages and transfer fee's for these players, it doesn't make them any better than the home grown players and cheap players that play at the bottom of other leagues.

And, good players doesn't always = Good teams.
02-14-2013 12:17 PM
Corey Feldman
Re: Best football league in the world?

here is another reason for EPL

which teams in other leagues can be bottom of 20 team league and have players like Julio Cesar, Loic Remy, Bosingwa, Ji sung Park, Granero, Samba (12,000,000 signing)

in Romania they would be league champions
02-14-2013 10:19 AM
erickmartins
Re: Best football league in the world?

La Liga has 2 great teams, 1-2 good ones, the rest is crap. EPL has 1 or 2 great teams and about 4-5 good teams, the rest is happy not to relegate. Serie A has 6-7 good teams, but the rest of the pack is more competitive. The Bundesliga has 1 or 2 great teams, 2 or 3 good ones but the rest is pretty decent as well. So it depends on what do you understand as "best". My favourite is the Bundesliga.

(and the Brasileirão, of course)
02-14-2013 08:22 AM
nazzac
Re: Best football league in the world?

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Originally Posted by The Bulldog View Post
Who seriously cares about the Europa League aside from the Spaniards?
Everyone but the British teams

Thats just Arrogance from British teams. Thinking they are too good for the Europa League. It's going to bite them in the ass when Germany moves ahead of them in UEFA's league rankings
02-14-2013 12:57 AM
Corey Feldman
Re: Best football league in the world?

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bulldog View Post
Who seriously cares about the Europa League aside from the Spaniards?
this the Iberians, same with super coppa in Monaco

its like the South Americans and the world club trophy
02-14-2013 12:34 AM
rocketassist
Re: Best football league in the world?

La Liga is let down by the inequal TV deals and almost SPL-like dominance of the big two.
02-13-2013 11:31 PM
The Prince
Re: Best football league in the world?

Who seriously cares about the Europa League aside from the Spaniards?
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