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02-18-2017 01:11 PM
Alex999
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by atennisfan View Post
Boris is a moron.
Yeah, Boris is a moron. I'm just wondering who is the biggest moron. Is it you or Boris who was a great tennis player?

Just fuck off moron
02-18-2017 12:36 PM
philosophicalarf
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by Myrre View Post
Boris Becker doing his (idiotic) best to promote tennis as a clean sport:
"I think most tennis players are responsible. If you see in the men's side there is no one inside the top 100 (that isn't clean) and in the women's side -- I think Maria is the exception -- all of the other tennis players are clean," he said.
"Tennis is an Olympic sport so the tests are very severe and strong and the penalties are strong. I think the system works. Maybe it speaks volumes of the system because a high-profile player like Sharapova was caught."

Quite a contrast from when Becker said Muster was doping.

Muster's fitness coach then = Djokovic's fitness coach now.
02-18-2017 11:39 AM
atennisfan
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by Myrre View Post
Boris Becker doing his (idiotic) best to promote tennis as a clean sport:
"I think most tennis players are responsible. If you see in the men's side there is no one inside the top 100 (that isn't clean) and in the women's side -- I think Maria is the exception -- all of the other tennis players are clean," he said.
"Tennis is an Olympic sport so the tests are very severe and strong and the penalties are strong. I think the system works. Maybe it speaks volumes of the system because a high-profile player like Sharapova was caught."


hxxp://www.eurosport.com/tennis/sharapova-deserves-second-chance-says-becker_sto6059803/story.shtml
Boris is a moron.
02-18-2017 10:53 AM
Cloren
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

I cringed reading that
02-18-2017 10:47 AM
Chris Kuerten
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by Myrre View Post
Boris Becker doing his (idiotic) best to promote tennis as a clean sport:
"I think most tennis players are responsible. If you see in the men's side there is no one inside the top 100 (that isn't clean) and in the women's side -- I think Maria is the exception -- all of the other tennis players are clean," he said.
"Tennis is an Olympic sport so the tests are very severe and strong and the penalties are strong. I think the system works. Maybe it speaks volumes of the system because a high-profile player like Sharapova was caught."


hxxp://www.eurosport.com/tennis/sharapova-deserves-second-chance-says-becker_sto6059803/story.shtml


Boris always seems to forget about his own blood doping adventures.
02-18-2017 09:08 AM
Myrre
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

Boris Becker doing his (idiotic) best to promote tennis as a clean sport:
"I think most tennis players are responsible. If you see in the men's side there is no one inside the top 100 (that isn't clean) and in the women's side -- I think Maria is the exception -- all of the other tennis players are clean," he said.
"Tennis is an Olympic sport so the tests are very severe and strong and the penalties are strong. I think the system works. Maybe it speaks volumes of the system because a high-profile player like Sharapova was caught."


hxxp://www.eurosport.com/tennis/sharapova-deserves-second-chance-says-becker_sto6059803/story.shtml
02-14-2017 01:33 PM
Dmitry Verdasco
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by MIMIC View Post
I used to take the same stuff Serena takes (for allergies). There is no way it could be considered performance-enhancing.
Then why does it need a TUE?
02-14-2017 11:43 AM
philosophicalarf
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by T.C View Post
If I remember correctly, it was Maria, herself, who called a press conference -- a misstep on her part, it turned out.

Yep. For someone with her revenue and star power, they'd have made it go away no problem at all. However, she she admitted she'd taken the drug in 2016, and a ban was then automatic. If she'd stayed silent, we'd never have heard anything about it - only that she was "injured" for a few tournaments.

Lepchenko: she saw what happened with Sharapova, only admitted taking it pre 2016, and the science wasn't there to disprove her claim.
02-14-2017 11:40 AM
philosophicalarf
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by MIMIC View Post
I used to take the same stuff Serena takes (for allergies). There is no way it could be considered performance-enhancing.
The TUE releases were pretty uninteresting for tennis, other than Mattek's absurd one.

I think you could suggest there's not much need for TUEs when the regular testing is so weak.
02-14-2017 03:45 AM
Laminar Animal Haven't had time to read all of the nearly 5000 posts, but I'm starting to wonder if everyone is taking the "No accusations with out proof" part of the thread title to heart.
02-14-2017 03:24 AM
T.C
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by Cloren View Post
I didn't say there is anything wrong with taking a break, however it's undeniable that people are more open to suspicion like even Federer is by many people here in MTF because it's much more likely to avoid drug tests, and Serena is very capable of doing that by just knocking herself in a panic room.

Besides Federer only has done it once here, Serena has done it multiple times, making "injury" excuses on why she cannot play the event and then comes with guns blazing for the slams, I'm sure you can accept that her injury excuses aren't valid at least?

Ofc there is no evidence or else she'll be banned, I'm making speculations, however I'm very suspicious of Serena with this panic room incident and taking TUEs when she won Roland Garros in 2015. Maria did a mistake, I'm not denying that and I'm fine with the fact that she's serving a ban right now. I never once claimed the ban was unfair.

But I'm confident she's isn't the only one here. It's also funny how in her case was announced officially while for Lepchenko it was a silent ban at first Maria being Russian had a lot do with this.
If I remember correctly, it was Maria, herself, who called a press conference -- a misstep on her part, it turned out.

I believe a player has to have a "legitimate reason" to withdraw or not play a tournament -- specially those mandatory ones -- otherwise there are penalties.
02-14-2017 03:17 AM
T.C
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by Dmitry Verdasco View Post
YOU CAN BOLD THE TEXT ALL YOU LIKE! WADA BANNED MELDONIUM, A SUBSTANCE USED BY EASTERN EUROPEANS FOR DECADES LEGALLY. HMMM. EVEN LEPCHENKO GOT DONE FOR MELDONIUM, BUT BECAUSE SHE NOW REPRESENTS THE USA SHE WAS ISSUED A SILENT BAN AND REFUSED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
You can speculate all you want, but that's not PROOF! Prove it or STFU!
02-14-2017 01:45 AM
MIMIC
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by Dmitry Verdasco View Post
You should accept the fact that Serena, Venus and Mattek Sands have all had TUE's approved. It's like for the US athlete's that they have WADA in their back pocket hmmm?
I used to take the same stuff Serena takes (for allergies). There is no way it could be considered performance-enhancing.
02-14-2017 12:55 AM
Cloren
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by T.C View Post
I have no clue why you/people think taking breaks is such a bad thing. The tennis "season" is very long and it doesn't give enough time for repair and recovery -- just read Federer's interview on why he decided to end his season after Wimby. When the body is worn out and motivation is lacking, a break can only do good because a player can come back fully healthy and mentally refreshed. I think Serena's and Venus' longevity is a result of the many long breaks they've taken from the game. The only time a break can hurt a player is if they get left behind (technically and technologically), but the game isn't evolving all that quickly nowadays.

If Sharapova actually used her ban wisely (i.e. stayed in top shape, rehabbed any pains and niggles, and took time to improve and develop techniques), I expect her to do damage to the WTA rankings pretty quickly.

BTW, I don't understand how you can quickly forgive/dismiss Sharapova her transgressions while at the same time be so sure of Serena's doping when there has been no evidence of such. Double standard much?
I didn't say there is anything wrong with taking a break, however it's undeniable that people are more open to suspicion like even Federer is by many people here in MTF because it's much more likely to avoid drug tests, and Serena is very capable of doing that by just knocking herself in a panic room.

Besides Federer only has done it once here, Serena has done it multiple times, making "injury" excuses on why she cannot play the event and then comes with guns blazing for the slams, I'm sure you can accept that her injury excuses aren't valid at least?

Ofc there is no evidence or else she'll be banned, I'm making speculations, however I'm very suspicious of Serena with this panic room incident and taking TUEs when she won Roland Garros in 2015. Maria did a mistake, I'm not denying that and I'm fine with the fact that she's serving a ban right now. I never once claimed the ban was unfair.

But I'm confident she's isn't the only one here. It's also funny how in her case was announced officially while for Lepchenko it was a silent ban at first Maria being Russian had a lot do with this.
02-14-2017 12:08 AM
Dmitry Verdasco
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by T.C View Post
TUEs can be available to anyone so long as they file one. Sharapova didn't bother for some reason. Where's your "hmmm" for that? Maria has as much resources as Serena and Venus, and more than Mattek Sands.

PROVE that the US has WADA in their back pocket, otherwise, your insinuations are just BS delusions.
YOU CAN BOLD THE TEXT ALL YOU LIKE! WADA BANNED MELDONIUM, A SUBSTANCE USED BY EASTERN EUROPEANS FOR DECADES LEGALLY. HMMM. EVEN LEPCHENKO GOT DONE FOR MELDONIUM, BUT BECAUSE SHE NOW REPRESENTS THE USA SHE WAS ISSUED A SILENT BAN AND REFUSED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

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Originally Posted by doubletrollt View Post
Or an emergency room in the back of the house, preferably without any video & audio connection with the front doors/gates.
Panic room And this was around the time she came back from 'nearly dying' to winning slams hmmm

Serena Williams locks herself in panic room in drug-test mix-up | New York Post
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