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11-15-2013 05:19 PM
nellis_lv
Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013 [Update after WTF RR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by a1canada View Post
Underestimated nadal a bit too!
Hah, true that.
11-15-2013 03:23 PM
a1canada
Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013 [Update after WTF RR]

Underestimated nadal a bit too!
11-15-2013 02:25 PM
nellis_lv
Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013 !

Quote:
Originally Posted by nellis_lv View Post
1) Djokovic
2) Murray
3) Del Potro
4) Berdych
5) Federer
6) Nadal
7) Ferrer
8) Janowicz


9) Nishikori
10) Tsonga
11) Cilic
12) Querrey
13) Isner
14) Anderson
15) Wawrinka
16) Dolgopolov
17) Raonic
18) Monaco
19) Tipsarevic
20) Gasquet
21) Haas
22) Klizan
23) Youzhny
24) Simon
25) Almagro
26) Verdasco
27) Kohlschreiber
28) Stepanek
29) Lopez
30) Baghdatis
31) Troicki
32) F. Mayer
33) Seppi
34) Paire
35) Granollers
36) Bellucci
37) Dimitrov
38) Fognini
39) Falla
40) Goffin
41) Benneteau
42) Matosevic
43) Giraldo
44) Soeda
45) Nieminen
46) Chardy
47) L. Mayer
48) Dodig
49) Sock
50) Rufin
51) Malisse
52) Zemlja
53) Ramos
54) Rosol
55) Kubot
56) Garcia-Lopez
57) Lacko
58) Andujar
59) Ito
60) Roger-Vasselin
61) Stakhovsky
62) Darcis
63) Istomin
64) Llodra
65) Kavcic
66) Cipolla
67) Mathieu
68) Pella
69) Bemelmans
70) Robredo
71) Petzschner
72) Jaziri
73) Haase
74) Berankis
75) Yen Lu
76) Kuznetsov
77) Lorenzi
78) Melzer
79) Tomic
80) Muller
81) Del Bonis
82) Pospisil
83) Becker
84) Karlovic
85) R. Harrison
86) Kukushkin
87) Mahut
88) Rochus
89) Ungur
90) Marchenko
91) Sijsling
92) Gimeno-Traver
93) Sousa
94) Montanes
95) Sugita
96) Donskoy
97) Bedene
98) Kudla
99) Berlocq
100) Bogomolov
I underestimated Raonic, Wawrinka, and Gasquet

I overestimated Janowicz, Nishikori, and Berdych


I got Goffin, Sock, and Pospisil totally wrong, as well.
01-20-2013 02:19 PM
Transcender
Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013 [# stats]

1. Murray
2. Djokovic
3. Federer
4. Ferrer
5. Nadal
6. Berdych
7. Del Potro
8. Almagro
01-08-2013 11:07 AM
Featherer
Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013 [# stats]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pratik View Post
If Gasquet has been picked twice, how can he have only one point?
Hi Pratik,
well, that's weird.
Maybe I subconsciously aimed at provoking you mathematicians (you and Slasher),
or maybe because your Gasquet defeated my Davydenko in Doha and I was subconsciously pissed,
but I didn't do it consciously/intentionally, I swear.

Quote:
Originally Posted by uxyzapenje View Post
I was banned until 26th of December. You can see my posting history if you think I'm lying. I came here on 27th after 1 month, couldn't have picked it earlier.
According to your posting history you did post on 26th december. So, yes, you are indeed lying (lol). (AbuDhabi started on 27th december.)

However, ban or not and lying or not are not the points anyway.
Although I'm the thread starter I really don't think I'm empowered of breaking the rules (or changing them during the contest), i.e. allowing late entries, thus virtually handicapping 60 people (as explained in the other post).
(Btw, there was also one other poster a little late, after you.)
Since many people participate in the contest I should treat things with some practical seriousness now, even if the whole thing is rather for fun actually.

What's the big deal with not being included in the contest part?
This thread is not only for the contest. You can also settle your predictions here just like that (in order to compare it later with what happened really, what you expected and what surprised you).

Yes, we know you're a Tipsarevic fan and probably you would have picked him anyway.
(What I accused you of earlier as well as what I said about Djokovic at AbuDhabi 2011 and so on was rather theoretically / a general issue.)
Moreover you've been just a little late, not much.
Hence you certainly won't go unnoticed if your predictions/picks turn out to be correct at the end of the season.
01-08-2013 03:07 AM
Pratik
Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013 [# stats]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Featherer View Post
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Stats

Code:
The Tennis players picked by 59 of the 60 entrants are sorted by their ATP rankings (season end 2012) 
to better illustrate the expected changes. 
(I excluded the picks of one entrant, who was obviously joking, from these stats.) 
The first number after the players' names shows how often they were picked. 
The second number results from the predicted rankings, if 8 points for 1st ranks, ..., 1 for 8th. 

  1. Djokovic   59   454 
  2. Federer    59   325 
  3. Murray     59   383 
  4. Nadal      59   342 
  5. Ferrer     50   141 
  6. Berdych    52   124 
  7. DelPotro   57   237 
  8. Tsonga     41    70 
  9. Tipsarevic  1     1  by coolfish1103 
 10. Gasquet     2     1  by Pratik and Slasher1985 
(11. Almagro     0) 
(12. Monaco      0) 
 13. Raonic     19    34! 
 14. Isner       1     1  by latso 
 15. Cilic       3     4  by AncicCilic and Legendary Lopata and GrimbleGromble 
 19. Nishikori   5     6 
 24. Verdasco    1     2  by Dr. Albans 
 26. Janowicz    3     5  by nellis_lv and BauerAlmeida and Brick Top 
 48. Dimitrov    1     1  by iniesta896
If Gasquet has been picked twice, how can he have only one point?
01-07-2013 09:21 PM
uxyzapenje
Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013 [# stats]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Featherer View Post
^^uxyzapenje
You sended your picks when Tipsarevic had already beaten Murray and Ferrer had beaten or was near beating Berdych in AbuDhabi. So Tipsarevic made the Top8 in your predictions and Ferrer landed even above Federer. Nice try, man!

The deadline:
Even if an Exho the AbuDhabi tournament is best for deadline since information is more important than a few ranking points.
AbuDhabi already holds a lot of information about the shape of several top players, probably more than Doha/Brisbane/Chennai and Sydney/Auckland combined.
The awarded ranking points for the latter are comparatively unimportant.
For example, at the 2011 AbuDhabi edition it became clear that Djokovic fully recovered from his back injury, which was pretty uncertain beforehand!
At last year's edition Nadal withdrew from the Australian Open during AbuDhabi.
Moreover, this thread is intended to be a relaxed Off-season activity.
I mean, it's almost the same if you settle your picks on 6th or 26th December. Not much happens during that three weeks.
Whereas predictions during the AbuDhabi tournament already imply an advantage in information.
It would be bad if most entrants waited with their predictions until the end of December.
WTF? Man, I was banned until 26th of December. You can see my posting history if you think I'm lying. I came here on 27th after 1 month, couldn't have picked it earlier. And if you saw any of my posts, you know that I would pick Tipsarevic even if he was beaten 6-0 6-0 by Murray. And also, if Tipsarevic beat Murray, why did I put Murray 2nd? It's an exho, it didn't affect my picks whatsoever...
01-07-2013 09:20 PM
Allez
Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013 [# stats]

1. Murray
2. Nole
3. Nadal
4. Del Potro
5. Berdych
6. Federer (due to a severely reduced schedule).
7. Tsonga
8. Ferrer

With a fighting chance
9. Tomic
10. Gasquet
01-07-2013 08:47 PM
Featherer
Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013 [# stats]

^^uxyzapenje
You sended your picks when Tipsarevic had already beaten Murray and Ferrer had beaten or was near beating Berdych in AbuDhabi. So Tipsarevic made the Top8 in your predictions and Ferrer landed even above Federer. Nice try, man!

The deadline:
Even if an Exho the AbuDhabi tournament is best for deadline since information is more important than a few ranking points.
AbuDhabi already holds a lot of information about the shape of several top players, probably more than Doha/Brisbane/Chennai and Sydney/Auckland combined.
The awarded ranking points for the latter are comparatively unimportant.
For example, at the 2011 AbuDhabi edition it became clear that Djokovic fully recovered from his back injury, which was pretty uncertain beforehand!
At last year's edition Nadal withdrew from the Australian Open during AbuDhabi.
Moreover, this thread is intended to be a relaxed Off-season activity.
I mean, it's almost the same if you settle your picks on 6th or 26th December. Not much happens during that three weeks.
Whereas predictions during the AbuDhabi tournament already imply an advantage in information.
It would be bad if most entrants waited with their predictions until the end of December.
01-07-2013 04:59 PM
uxyzapenje
Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013 [# stats]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Featherer View Post
[RIGHT].

You forgot me in the 'Tsonga won't make the top8' column... And in who picked Tipsarevic...
01-07-2013 04:12 PM
samo7266
Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013 [# stats]

1) Djokovic
2) Federer
3) Murray
4) Del Potro
5) Nadal
6) Tsonga
7) Ferrer
8) Berdych
01-07-2013 04:08 PM
decrepitude
Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013 !

Quote:
Originally Posted by TBkeeper View Post
Federer (2 slams, 1 masters)
Nadal (1 slam, 2 masters)
Davydenko (1 slam , 1 master)
Hewitt (2 masters)
Robredo (1 master)
Nalbandian (1 master)
Blake (1 master)
Del Potro (2 ATP 500 , 4 ATP 250)

You've stopped taking your medication again, haven't you?
01-07-2013 02:07 PM
Looner
Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013 [# stats]

1. Djokovic
2. Murray
3. Nadal
4. Federer
5. Del Potro
6. Ferrer
7. Berdych
8. Raonic
01-07-2013 02:05 PM
Featherer
Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013 [# stats]

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Stats

Code:
The Tennis players picked by 59 of the 60 entrants are sorted by their ATP rankings (season end 2012) 
to better illustrate the expected changes. 
(I excluded the picks of one entrant, who was obviously joking, from these stats.) 
The first number after the players' names shows how often they were picked. 
The second number results from the predicted rankings, if 8 points for 1st ranks, ..., 1 for 8th. 

  1. Djokovic   59   454 
  2. Federer    59   325 
  3. Murray     59   383 
  4. Nadal      59   342 
  5. Ferrer     50   141 
  6. Berdych    52   124 
  7. DelPotro   57   237 
  8. Tsonga     41    70 
  9. Tipsarevic  1     1  by coolfish1103 
 10. Gasquet     2     2  by Pratik and Slasher1985 
(11. Almagro     0) 
(12. Monaco      0) 
 13. Raonic     19    34! 
 14. Isner       1     1  by latso 
 15. Cilic       3     4  by AncicCilic and Legendary Lopata and GrimbleGromble 
 19. Nishikori   5     6 
 24. Verdasco    1     2  by Dr. Albans 
 26. Janowicz    3     5  by nellis_lv and BauerAlmeida and Brick Top 
 48. Dimitrov    1     1  by iniesta896
Code:
So the Top 8 of 2013 as expected by the majority of the entrants are: 

  1. Djokovic       0 
  2. Murray        +1 
  3. Nadal         +1 
  4. Federer       -2 
  5. DelPotro      +2 
  6. Ferrer        -1 
  7. Berdych       -1 
  8. Tsonga         0 

And in fact two entrants chose precisely the above version: duong and myself.



Entrants

Code:
Almost half of the entrants think we'll get exactly the same Top 8 as last year. 
If that really happens it would be the first time in history, I guess. 

    duong              1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Nadal 4.Federer 5.DelPotro 6.Ferrer 7.Berdych 8.Tsonga
    Featherer          1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Nadal 4.Federer 5.DelPotro 6.Ferrer 7.Berdych 8.Tsonga
    Kowchi             1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Nadal 4.Federer 5.Ferrer 6.DelPotro 7.Berdych 8.Tsonga
    outrider           1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Nadal 4.Federer 5.Ferrer 6.DelPotro 7.Tsonga 8.Berdych
    Chase Visa         1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Federer 4.Nadal 5.DelPotro 6.Berdych 7.Ferrer 8.Tsonga
    Roy Emerson        1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Federer 4.Nadal 5.DelPotro 6.Berdych 7.Ferrer 8.Tsonga
    ProdigyEng         1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Federer 4.Nadal 5.DelPotro 6.Tsonga 7.Berdych 8.Ferrer
    Nole fan           1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Federer 4.Nadal 5.DelPotro 6.Ferrer 7.Berdych 8.Tsonga
    duarte_a           1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Federer 4.Nadal 5.Ferrer 6.DelPotro 7.Berdych 8.Tsonga
    Eddy DoubleD       1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Federer 4.DelPotro 5.Nadal 6.Ferrer 7.Berdych 8.Tsonga
  * Cheyen             1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Federer 4.Ferrer 5.DelPotro 6.Nadal 7.Tsonga 8.Berdych
    Del GOATro         1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.DelPotro 4.Federer 5.Nadal 6.Ferrer 7.Berdych 8.Tsonga
    Alex999            1.Djokovic 2.Nadal 3.Murray 4.Federer 5.DelPotro 6.Ferrer 7.Berdych 8.Tsonga
    Abel               1.Djokovic 2.Nadal 3.Murray 4.Federer 5.DelPotro 6.Ferrer 7.Berdych 8.Tsonga
    nole_no1           1.Djokovic 2.Nadal 3.Murray 4.Federer 5.DelPotro 6.Ferrer 7.Tsonga 8.Berdych
    nazzac             1.Djokovic 2.Nadal 3.Murray 4.Federer 5.DelPotro 6.Berdych 7.Ferrer 8.Tsonga
    JurajCrane         1.Djokovic 2.Nadal 3.Murray 4.Federer 5.DelPotro 6.Tsonga 7.Ferrer 8.Berdych
    TigerTim           1.Djokovic 2.Nadal 3.Murray 4.Federer 5.Tsonga 6.Ferrer 7.DelPotro 8.Berdych
    bizzle             1.Djokovic 2.Nadal 3.Murray 4.DelPotro 5.Federer 6.Ferrer 7.Tsonga 8.Berdych
    GSMnadal           1.Djokovic 2.Nadal 3.Federer 4.Murray 5.Ferrer 6.Berdych 7.DelPotro 8.Tsonga
    End da Game        1.Djokovic 2.DelPotro 3.Federer 4.Nadal 5.Murray 6.Berdych 7.Ferrer 8.Tsonga
  * RafaelNadalisGod   1.Nadal 2.Djokovic 3.Murray 4.Federer 5.DelPotro 6.Tsonga 7.Berdych 8.Ferrer
    Marto              1.Nadal 2.Djokovic 3.Murray 4.Ferrer 5.Federer 6.DelPotro 7.Tsonga 8.Berdych
    ciprianned         1.Nadal 2.Djokovic 3.Federer 4.Murray 5.Ferrer 6.DelPotro 7.Tsonga 8.Berdych
  * se7en              1.Murray 2.Djokovic 3.Nadal 4.Federer 5.DelPotro 6.Berdych 7.Ferrer 8.Tsonga
    Matthew2408        1.Murray 2.Djokovic 3.Ferrer 4.Nadal 5.Federer 6.DelPotro 7.Berdych 8.Tsonga
    Bashkatik          1.Federer 2.Djokovic 3.Nadal 4.Murray 5.Ferrer 6.DelPotro 7.Berdych 8.Tsonga
    Federer&Hingis     1.Federer 2.Murray 3.Djokovic 4.DelPotro 5.Berdych 6.Nadal 7.Ferrer 8.Tsonga

Tsonga won't make the Top8: 
    djokovicgonzalez   1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Federer 4.Nadal 5.Berdych 6.DelPotro 7.Ferrer 8.Raonic
    Han Solo           1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Nadal 4.Federer 5.DelPotro 6.Berdych 7.Ferrer 8.Raonic
  * Noserer            1.Djokovic 2.Nadal 3.Murray 4.DelPotro 5.Federer 6.Ferrer 7.Berdych 8.Raonic
    MOhero             1.Murray 2.Djokovic 3.Federer 4.Nadal 5.Ferrer 6.DelPotro 7.Berdych 8.Raonic
    156mphserve        1.Djokovic 2.Federer 3.Murray 4.DelPotro 5.Nadal 6.Ferrer 7.Raonic 8.Berdych
    nellis_lv          1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.DelPotro 4.Berdych 5.Federer 6.Nadal 7.Ferrer 8.Janowicz
    BauerAlmeida       1.Djokovic 2.DelPotro 3.Nadal 4.Murray 5.Federer 6.Berdych 7.Ferrer 8.Janowicz
    Brick Top          1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Nadal 4.Federer 5.DelPotro 6.Janowicz 7.Ferrer 8.Berdych
    lucyfur            1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.DelPotro 4.Federer 5.Nadal 6.Berdych 7.Ferrer 8.Nishikori
    Slasher1985        1.Murray 2.Djokovic 3.Federer 4.Nadal 5.DelPotro 6.Ferrer 7.Berdych 8.Gasquet
    Pratik             1.Murray 2.Djokovic 3.Federer 4.DelPotro 5.Nadal 6.Ferrer 7.Berdych 8.Gasquet
    AncicCilic         1.Murray 2.Djokovic 3.Federer 4.Nadal 5.Berdych 6.DelPotro 7.Ferrer 8.Cilic
    coolfish1103       1.Djokovic 2.Federer 3.Murray 4.DelPotro 5.Berdych 6.Nadal 7.Ferrer 8.Tipsarevic
    iniesta896         1.Federer 2.Djokovic 3.Murray 4.Nadal 5.Berdych 6.Ferrer 7.DelPotro 8.Dimitrov 
    Dr. Albans         1.Nadal 2.Djokovic 3.Federer 4.Murray 5.DelPotro 6.Ferrer 7.Verdasco 8.Berdych

Ferrer won't make the Top8: 
    Certinfy           1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Nadal 4.Federer 5.DelPotro 6.Berdych 7.Tsonga 8.Raonic
    johnny tsunami     1.Djokovic 2.Nadal 3.Murray 4.Federer 5.DelPotro 6.Berdych 7.Tsonga 8.Raonic
    sdmartin           1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.DelPotro 4.Federer 5.Nadal 6.Raonic 7.Berdych 8.Tsonga
    DDRickyDD          1.Djokovic 2.Federer 3.Nadal 4.DelPotro 5.Raonic 6.Murray 7.Berdych 8.Tsonga
    Mark Lenders       1.Djokovic 2.Nadal 3.Murray 4.Federer 5.DelPotro 6.Nishikori 7.Berdych 8.Tsonga
    latso              1.Djokovic 2.Nadal 3.Federer 4.Murray 5.DelPotro 6.Berdych 7.Tsonga 8.Isner

Berdych won't make the Top8: 
    Droog              1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Federer 4.Nadal 5.DelPotro 6.Tsonga 7.Ferrer 8.Raonic
    FleetSeb           1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Nadal 4.Federer 5.DelPotro 6.Ferrer 7.Tsonga 8.Raonic
    samo7266           1.Djokovic 2.Federer 3.Murray 4.DelPotro 5.Nadal 6.Tsonga 7.Ferrer 8.Raonic
    Chirag             1.Murray 2.Djokovic 3.Federer 4.Nadal 5.DelPotro 6.Ferrer 7.Tsonga 8.Raonic
    ZackBusner         1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.DelPotro 4.Nadal 5.Federer 6.Raonic 7.Tsonga 8.Ferrer

Two out of DelPotro / Berdych / Tsonga / Ferrer won't make the Top8: 
    come2papa          1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Federer 4.Nadal 5.DelPotro 6.Ferrer 7.Raonic 8.Nishikori
    Federer-Fan        1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Federer 4.Nadal 5.Tsonga 6.DelPotro 7.Nishikori 8.Raonic
    Mountaindewslave   1.Nadal 2.Federer 3.Djokovic 4.Raonic 5.Murray 6.Ferrer 7.Berdych 8.Nishikori
    Legendary Lopata   1.Djokovic 2.Murray 3.Nadal 4.DelPotro 5.Berdych 6.Federer 7.Cilic 8.Raonic
    GrimbleGromble     1.Murray 2.Djokovic 3.Berdych 4.Nadal 5.Federer 6.Raonic 7.Tsonga 8.Cilic

TBkeeper will make it: 
    TBkeeper           1.Federer 2.Nadal 3.Davydenko 4.Hewitt 5.Robredo 6.Nalbandian 7.Blake 8.DelPotro


* Side note: It might be that some (currently banned) entrants are double accounts. 
If that proves to be true I will remove them from the list of entrants as well as from the stats later on.


Just as last year there was just one entrant who marched to a different tune, and just as last year it was precisily the last entrant (before the deadline), who did so.
I don't really know what to make of this "tradition".

...Checking back our predictions will start to become interesting after the US Open.
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12-27-2012 04:21 PM
FedererFan2012
Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013 !

1. Djokovic
2. Murray
3. Federer
4. Nadal
5. Del Potro
6. Ferrer
7. Berdych
8. Raonic
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