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12-07-2012 06:43 AM
se7en
Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

Tennis is a game mostly played by gentlemen not by thugs, so it come as no surprise that two of the most popular are as well-behaved as they can be.
12-06-2012 09:41 AM
duong
Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

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Originally Posted by fluffyyelloballz View Post
Fed has done pretty well with his keeping emotions under control thing. Better than McEnore did anyway with his let it all hang out thing.
As for Novak, he is also doing pretty well.
Why does McEnroe think they should be more like him and less like themselves?
McEnroe doesn't say that they would play better tennis (only says it might be better for them to avoid ulcers later ), from what I understand he mostly means for spectators.
12-06-2012 09:22 AM
fluffyyelloballz
Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

Fed has done pretty well with his keeping emotions under control thing. Better than McEnore did anyway with his let it all hang out thing.
As for Novak, he is also doing pretty well.
Why does McEnroe think they should be more like him and less like themselves?
12-06-2012 08:43 AM
duong
Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

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Originally Posted by Yolita View Post
I agree, and that's why the most compelling rivalry is Djokovic/Federer. Not only for the quality of their matches, they bring out the best in each other, but also because it's quite clear that they have never liked each other. There are fireworks every time they play. Great stuff...
mostly in your head from your personal history and what you heard about them (quite a lot of other Djokofans, esp. Serbian ones, also feel like that apparently), not so much from what we see now and from what others like me may feel : I don't ignore their early personal opposition more than you, but when I see them playing now, I mostly see a tennis opposition, nothing else.

Others have something else in their mind and are more excited and feel a more personal opposition when Fed and Nadal face each other, it's still the most appealing opposition for most fans.

And some Murray-fans like Muzzalovah and others who were touched by some Fed's words surely feel a lot of tension when Murray faces Fed, some others it's against Nadal the nemesis or Djokovic the generation opponent ...

it's mostly a matter of what a fan has in mind.

Personally I feel most tension when Fed faces Nadal, for you it's when Djokovic faces Fed (and when Fed loses to Djokovic, I feel no tension at all, seriously it's the least disappointing losses for me ), for others like Murrayfans it's something else ...
12-06-2012 07:17 AM
se7en
Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

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Originally Posted by heya View Post
Fish had health problems. Roddick couldn't move. Both confessed that they didn't take care of themselves. In the charity event for courageous Tsunami survivors, crybaby Roddick moaned "I'm sick of Federer"; no one begged Roddick to make millions of dollars from sponsors back in 2001. McEnroe also played in that charity event; why didn't these "loud" US flag wavers donate their millions?
Donate millions? Is she high again
jeezuz, she trying to be a saint here after all
the trolling and hatred she spews
I say get off the coke granma
get over the disappoinment
of the failure
that you boyfriend Rodduck was
you give him a chance make up you two, you know you're crazy bout him
12-06-2012 04:03 AM
Whiznot
Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

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Originally Posted by heya View Post
McEnroe misses his own brief time when any media outlet gave a damn about him. He admits that Federer wasn't really number 1 this year, so he felt a desperate need to promote Fed to the intelligent audience that still doesn't quite buy Fed as a quiet, gentle-natured sweetheart (in reality, Fed's his fellow badmouthing asshole hero). It's BS written all over the place when he believes Djoker shows no emotion. Not every champion should be stereotyped like Mr. Peachy, Polished Federer just because imagination-deficient McEnroe's bitter about his regretful career, which was full of bad tantrums.
McEnroe will always be bitter at how he tanked his career. In 1984 he had the best year ever and was unbeatable in singles and doubles before he married an actress and started smoking pot and doing coke. As soon as McEnroe got into drugs the lightning reflexes disappeared and he flinched at the net every time Lendl cranked a forehand at him.
12-06-2012 03:57 AM
Yolita
Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

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Originally Posted by Whiznot View Post
There might be a good point here. It often seems that the chumminess between the top guys takes an edge of the competition. The year's most fun match was Rosol over Rafa where there was bitter contention. At times I miss Connors who personally despised whoever was on the other side of the net. All this love and respect gets a bit old.
I agree, and that's why the most compelling rivalry is Djokovic/Federer. Not only for the quality of their matches, they bring out the best in each other, but also because it's quite clear that they have never liked each other. There are fireworks every time they play. Great stuff...
12-06-2012 03:49 AM
Whiznot
Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

There might be a good point here. It often seems that the chumminess between the top guys takes an edge of the competition. The year's most fun match was Rosol over Rafa where there was bitter contention. At times I miss Connors who personally despised whoever was on the other side of the net. All this love and respect gets a bit old.
12-06-2012 03:38 AM
heya
Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

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Originally Posted by Slice Winner View Post
Hulkerer disagrees.

Meanwhile, all the young American tennis players fit the mould, and all of them are doing jack shit right now. Hmm.
Fish had health problems. Roddick couldn't move. Both confessed that they didn't take care of themselves. In the charity event for courageous Tsunami survivors, crybaby Roddick moaned "I'm sick of Federer"; no one begged Roddick to make millions of dollars from sponsors back in 2001. McEnroe also played in that charity event; why didn't these "loud" US flag wavers donate their millions?
12-06-2012 01:59 AM
nobama
Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

STFU Mac. Just because you were a dick on court doesn't mean Fed and Djoker need to be too. They need to do whatever it is that makes them play their best tennis. Not phony emotions to play to the crowd or please the announcers in the box.
12-05-2012 11:58 PM
Slice Winner
Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

Hulkerer disagrees.


Meanwhile, all the young American tennis players fit the mould, and all of them are doing jack shit right now. Hmm.
12-05-2012 11:35 PM
Yolita
Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

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Originally Posted by Edda View Post
I still think to myself every time Novak steps on court: A racquet will be smashed today!
I still think to myself every time Novak steps on court: A MP will be saved today!
12-05-2012 12:24 PM
Nole Rules
Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

What's next Johnny Mac? Llodra should S&V more?
12-05-2012 12:01 PM
saviopr
Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

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Originally Posted by duong View Post

I often read things about that and the famous "body language" from the Wilander guy especially, but as I read from another top-player, if it's only a body language and nothing inside, it's not really important : it has to be something real, more impressive for the opponent is that Fed doesn't start playing worse like somebody who doesn't believe anymore (as Murray does sometimes, and Djokovic more seldom but also in a lesser extent), and even changes things and accelerates : that's what Benneteau said of their match in Wimbledon for instance. Also playing very solid on big points. Nadal is also well-known for that : when he's lost previous set, you can be sure he will accelerate in the beginning of next set for instance and that's something which impresses the opponent a lot whatever face he has, the opponent is mostly impressed by how tough the match is and he has to wonder "can I really do it ?"
Yep, I also think it's a combination of body language and attitude on court that makes the diference.
12-05-2012 10:23 AM
duong
Re: Johnny Mac: Fed, Djokovic should let emotions out

McEnroe speaks like Wilander as the TV professional entertainer he is now.

Much more interesting is what he says about Lendl imo : I would like to know more about those famous Lendl jokes

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Originally Posted by Johnny Groove View Post
Borg's book, Bjorn says when he was playing, he was calm outer, but he was absolutely destroying things inside.
Borg is known as the biggest star tennis had before Federer, and he showed absolutely nothing : maybe tells you something about people's tastes in tennis

I disagree with what Djokovicgonzalez says about the absolute need for players to show emotions (and it's a former big-Noah fan who speaks ) : I think the sport itself has enough tension if one's really a fan of the sport, now I know tennis well enough to feel the tension inside the game itself whatever emotions the player shows ... and most of the time I'm there thinking about the player I support in this or that match "focus there focus there" and "you can do it" if he's behind or "don't relax, it can turn" if he's ahead, things like that ... I constantly want him to fully focus rather than be driven by the failure or success on previous point. Of course I feel different when he's behind or ahead and I'm happy when he wins the point and especially big points but then it's "focus there focus there" again

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Originally Posted by manadrainer View Post
Anyway I think showing a poker face it's a great advantage in tennis. I've heard many Fed's opponent mentioning that not seeing him angry or upset when he's losing makes them nervous cause he seems to be always in control and ready to turn around the match.
I often read things about that and the famous "body language" from the Wilander guy especially, but as I read from another top-player, if it's only a body language and nothing inside, it's not really important : it has to be something real, more impressive for the opponent is that Fed doesn't start playing worse like somebody who doesn't believe anymore (as Murray does sometimes, and Djokovic more seldom but also in a lesser extent), and even changes things and accelerates : that's what Benneteau said of their match in Wimbledon for instance. Also playing very solid on big points. Nadal is also well-known for that : when he's lost previous set, you can be sure he will accelerate in the beginning of next set for instance and that's something which impresses the opponent a lot whatever face he has, the opponent is mostly impressed by how tough the match is and he has to wonder "can I really do it ?"
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