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10-08-2012 04:11 PM
Deathless Mortal
Re: Which USO win was more impressive/deserving? Delpo or Murray?

The poll results telling it as it is.
10-08-2012 03:21 PM
Johnbert
Re: Which USO win was more impressive/deserving? Delpo or Murray?

it's really simple:

impressive => delpo (beating fed/nadal b2b in a slam...)

deserving => murray (uso 2012 was his 5th (!) gs-final...)
10-08-2012 03:13 PM
Roy Emerson
Re: Which USO win was more impressive/deserving? Delpo or Murray?

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Originally Posted by Mooza2011 View Post
Comparing Potro to Murray.

Murray won his slam in his fifth final. He had won many other big tournaments with an Olympic gold and 8 masters title. Potro has nothing other than his slam, no other finals, master titles etc.
Yep. Delpo's looks more like a fluke. Murray has FIVE slam finals so far. 8 masters series, Olympic gold beating Nole and Fed back to back...
10-08-2012 07:41 AM
Juz78
Re: Which USO win was more impressive/deserving? Delpo or Murray?

Not sure I like the poll because Delpo's was more impressive, Murray's was more deserving...

Murray overall.
10-08-2012 07:27 AM
E-r-i-c
Re: Which USO win was more impressive/deserving? Delpo or Murray?

If you want to win a slam, you really need some luck.
Both deserved their title.
10-08-2012 05:21 AM
Mountaindewslave
Re: Which USO win was more impressive/deserving? Delpo or Murray?

Del Potro faced an extremely tough draw and played absolutely amazing, the best of his career, during the span of one tournament. Murray played pretty well but nothing amazing and had a very fortunate draw.

clear cut, Del Potro
10-08-2012 03:52 AM
Gris
Re: Which USO win was more impressive/deserving? Delpo or Murray?

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Originally Posted by PedroMarquess View Post
Impressive - Delpo

Deserving - Murray
Agree
10-08-2012 02:33 AM
emotion
Re: Which USO win was more impressive/deserving? Delpo or Murray?

del Potro winning the poll

That final was a huge choke from Federer.
Neither one seemed too brilliant to me (nor did Nadal in 2010) but for sure Murray
10-08-2012 02:31 AM
Matt01
Re: Which USO win was more impressive/deserving? Delpo or Murray?

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Originally Posted by Tag View Post
djokovic a ballbasher


del potro faced doublefaulterer in that 2009 final

he had the match handed to him by doublefaulterer's choking

emotionalabuserer cried and swore for roddick, but still lost the match

murray had to beat an in form berdych (who only shows up against olderer) in the semis, and beat both the wind and the best hard court player in the world in the final

murray's is more impressive, easily

Oh my
10-08-2012 01:59 AM
fast_clay
Re: Which USO win was more impressive/deserving? Delpo or Murray?

when taking into account the era difficulty factor, the murray us open win could be considered as equal to 4 of federer's us open titles... or 5 of nadal's french open titles if you want the clay angle...
10-08-2012 01:54 AM
Mark Lenders
Re: Which USO win was more impressive/deserving? Delpo or Murray?

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Originally Posted by Topspindoctor View Post
Well, I am looking at the bigger picture. Mandy reached 4 slam finals and won something like 7-8 masters, so his resume is slightly enhanced by the slam, not overwhelmed by it. So for a guy, even as limited as he is, not winning even one slam would have been strange.

Del Mugtro's biggest title apart from his USO is Estroil and Delray Beach, which really puts his carrer into context. He's a tier 3 player well below guys like Ferrer, Tsonga and Berdych who didn't have his luck to fluke a slam.

He is one of the most overrated one slam wonders in open era, just like his countrywoman Gabriela Sabatini was. But at least she was eye candy, I dunno why you are such a fan of this ballbasher..
The question is not about the overall picture though, but about which particular Slam run was more impressive.

And do you seriously believe Tsonga, Berdych or Ferrer would have won that US Open had they had that 'luck'? The only one with even half a chance is Tsonga (a very slim one though), since Berdych is competely owned by Nadal (can't even win sets let alone three in the same match) and Ferrer is Federer's very own lapdog (3 sets in 13 matches tell their own story). Even Murray, while we're at it, would have loved to see him win a Slam while being 'lucky' enough to have to go through both Nadal and Federer instead of being the first Slam champion in ages not to go through even one of them.

He's underrated if anything; the only reason he might remain a one Slam wonder is his injuries, he's far too good a player to win 'only' one Slam. And the reason Murray had to wait until almost his 26th birthday to get one while Delpo got one in before needing surgery is that he is a more talented tennis player, he doesn't need draws opening up or bizarre weather conditions. All he needs is for his body not to let him down and let him play his best tennis, that is why he took it in the first and only (so far) opportunity he had (if facing Federer in a USO final can be considered an opportunity, that is).
10-08-2012 01:46 AM
Topspindoctor
Re: Which USO win was more impressive/deserving? Delpo or Murray?

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Originally Posted by Mark Lenders View Post
And didn't Del Potro actuall beat Nadal and Federer ? He didn't even ned any 'weather manipulation magic' or 'USTA' for it.
Well, I am looking at the bigger picture. Mandy reached 4 slam finals and won something like 7-8 masters, so his resume is slightly enhanced by the slam, not overwhelmed by it. So for a guy, even as limited as he is, not winning even one slam would have been strange.

Del Mugtro's biggest title apart from his USO is Estroil and Delray Beach, which really puts his carrer into context. He's a tier 3 player well below guys like Ferrer, Tsonga and Berdych who didn't have his luck to fluke a slam.

He is one of the most overrated one slam wonders in open era, just like his countrywoman Gabriela Sabatini was. But at least she was eye candy, I dunno why you are such a fan of this ballbasher..
10-08-2012 01:42 AM
moon language
Re: Which USO win was more impressive/deserving? Delpo or Murray?

Del Potro's was more impressive in that he played out of his mind for much of that tournament. Murray's was more deserving in that he'd already been in multiple slam finals ... eventually it had to go his way.
10-08-2012 01:41 AM
Honestly
Re: Which USO win was more impressive/deserving? Delpo or Murray?

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Originally Posted by rocketassist View Post
They both deserved the slam.

/thread
This. These kinds of threads are really stupid. These endless analysis are for fanboys and -girls. They both deserved it. Get over it.
10-08-2012 01:39 AM
Mark Lenders
Re: Which USO win was more impressive/deserving? Delpo or Murray?

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Originally Posted by Topspindoctor View Post
Both are flukes, but as much as it pains me to say, Mandy. Del Shitro beat Nadal who couldn't serve and Noserer who choked in the most pathetic manner.

Mandy despite being helped by his weather manipulation magic, USTA and many other factors, actually beat exhausted No2e to grab his title. Plus previous achievements must be taken into account as well: Del Shitro can't even win a masters title, while Mandy has a few masters titles under his belt as well as several slam finals.

All in all, Mandy is more deserving slam champ IMO. Del Mugtro is a brainless ballbashing mug who fluked his slam like Johannson, while Mandy, despite lacking game tried his best time and time again until the stars aligned for him.
And didn't Del Potro actuall beat Nadal and Federer ? He didn't even ned any 'weather manipulation magic' or 'USTA' for it.

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Originally Posted by BK 201 View Post
Who did Murray beat before the finals? Lopez, a guy with one shot. Raonic? A guy with one shot, Cilic (choked but should have been up 2-0), Verdasco (a choker but was unlucky with some calls). Even in the final Djokovic wasn't great and the windy conditions made him play even worse. I'd take JMDP by a clear shot. I understand Nadal fans always like to play the injury card but it's not like Nadal is some hard court GOAT who can't lose when playing well and beating Federer is clearly more impressive than beating Djokovic at the US Open.
Murray didn't face Verdasco in the US Open.
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