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09-12-2017 03:54 PM
Budadiii
Re: JG's Top 20 Players Ever

But this cant be the great list people talked about, right? I knew the slam and weeks at 1 stats myself.

I google cached this and there was more info year to year.
09-12-2017 04:37 AM
Quicksand
Re: JG's Top 20 Players Ever

Ah ok. Better as singles only.
09-12-2017 04:28 AM
Johnny Groove
Re: JG's Top 20 Players Ever

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Originally Posted by Quicksand View Post
But isn't it more for Mac due to doubles wins? Bill is listed at 15 for example but only 10 came from singles.

Grand Slam Doubles results
Wimbledon W (1979, 1981, 1983, 1984, 1992)
US Open W (1979, 1981, 1983, 1989)
No, no, this list is only singles

For his other 5 slams, 4 came from pros and 1 from the World Hard Court Championships, which was at slam level in 1921 when he won it
09-12-2017 04:02 AM
Quicksand
Re: JG's Top 20 Players Ever

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Originally Posted by Johnny Groove View Post
In there now
But isn't it more for Mac due to doubles wins? Bill is listed at 15 for example but only 10 came from singles.

Grand Slam Doubles results
Wimbledon W (1979, 1981, 1983, 1984, 1992)
US Open W (1979, 1981, 1983, 1989)
09-12-2017 03:34 AM
Johnny Groove
Re: JG's Top 20 Players Ever

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Originally Posted by slamjunky View Post
Where are Mac's 7 slams on the list?
In there now
09-12-2017 02:59 AM
slamjunky
Re: JG's Top 20 Players Ever

Where are Mac's 7 slams on the list?
09-11-2017 03:51 PM
Johnny Groove
Re: JG's Top 20 Players Ever

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Originally Posted by Budadiii View Post
Did you erase it all? Where is it?
Been through several forms, might add more

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Originally Posted by Kitaen View Post
mixing amateur and pro slams into one is just wild. nothing else tbh.

apples and oranges

thats like adding a slam for each 4 won master titles
Already been discussed ad nauseum, mate. Pro slams count for me because the pros never had any chances at slams, only pro slams. And even then only 3 a year, not 4.
09-11-2017 03:28 PM
Kitaen
Re: JG's Top 20 Players Ever

mixing amateur and pro slams into one is just wild. nothing else tbh.

apples and oranges

thats like adding a slam for each 4 won master titles
09-11-2017 02:48 PM
Budadiii
Re: JG's Top 20 Players Ever

Did you erase it all? Where is it?
09-11-2017 02:20 PM
Johnny Groove
Re: JG's Top 20 Players Ever

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Groove you forgot to make a list based on YE1 alone, and well you have forgotten Sampras in the slam count list...
Sampras in now

The other list is the exact same, just switch Budge and Sampras and switch McEnroe and Connors
09-11-2017 08:13 AM
BaselineGod
Re: JG's Top 20 Players Ever

Groove you forgot to make a list based on YE1 alone, and well you have forgotten Sampras in the slam count list...
09-11-2017 03:44 AM
Johnny Groove
Re: Johnny Groove's Top 20 Players Ever

Edited the first post

Ok, now that Rafa has won 16 slams, and my good friend @Slasher1985 is getting some heat for his very well done and researched thread that I hope he continues. He is a real tennis fan and great asset to the board. I especially love his work sub top 100 top like 500 or more, that is just excellent work, beyond excellent work.

Now, that being said. I wanted to bring back my thread. While I love Slasher's thread, I myself as a tennis fan feel that certain other statistics should be valued differently than he does. Our lists will be for the most part the same, with only minor shuffles here and there. However, my presentation will differ.

Most important stats: Slams (Amateur and pro), Time spent at World #1 (YE as well as weeks, and in some cases estimated weeks where several players shared #1 for the year, each received a certain number less than the whole), Other big titles like YEC and Olympics and Davis Cup, then we have streaks by surface, by slam, longevity records, title records by surface and overall, total career W-L record, and anything else you want to add. Perhaps Head 2 Head if everything else is so close. In every player I will post both their career highs as well as blemishes.

Slams

1. Ken Rosewall- 23 slams
2. Rod Laver- 19 slams
3. Roger Federer- 19 slams
4. Rafael Nadal- 16 slams
5. Bill Tilden- 15 slams
6. Pancho Gonzales- 14 slams
7. Pete Sampras- 14 slams
8. Novak Djokovic- 12 slams
9. Roy Emerson- 12 slams
10. Bjorn Borg- 11 slams
11. Henri Cochet- 11 slams
12. Don Budge- 10 slams
13. Fred Perry- 10 slams
14. Frank Sedgman- 8 slams
15. Andre Agassi- 8 slams
16. Jimmy Connors- 8 slams
17. John McEnroe- 7 slams
18. Ellsworth Vines- 7 slams
19. Rene Lacoste- 7 slams
20. Tony Trabert- 7 slams
21. John Newcombe- 7 slams
22. Mats Wilander- 7 slams

Time Spent as World #1

1. Pancho Gonzales- 364 weeks, 7 YE #1
2. Bill Tilden- 330 weeks, 6 YE #1
3. Don Budge- 313 weeks, 5 YE #1
4. Roger Federer- 302 weeks, 5 YE #1
5. Pete Sampras- 286 Weeks, 6 YE #1
6. Rod Laver- 277 weeks, 5 YE #1
7. Ivan Lendl- 270 weeks, 4 YE #1
8. Ken Rosewall- 242 weeks, 4 YE #1
9. Jack Kramer- 234 weeks, 4 YE #1
10. Novak Djokovic- 223 weeks, 4 YE #1
11. Jimmy Conndors- 216 weeks, 3 YE #1
12. John McEnroe- 170 weeks, 4 YE #1
13. Henri Cochet- 166 weeks, 3 YE #1
14. Bjorn Borg- 161 weeks, 3 YE #1
15. Ellsworth Vines- 157, 3 YE #1
16. Bobby Riggs- 150 weeks, 3 YE #1
17. Rafael Nadal- 144 weeks, 3 YE #1
18. Fred Perry- 120 weeks, 3 YE #1
19. Rene Lacoste- 104 weeks, 2 YE #1
20. Andre Agassi 101 weeks, 1 YE #1

So there you have the top 20 of all time in terms of slams and #1

@MWW , or another mod, any way to move my thread back into GM?
07-19-2016 07:27 PM
Sapeod
Re: Johnny Groove's Top 69 Players Ever (Djokovic #11 of all time, Wawrinka #56)

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Originally Posted by Johnny Groove View Post
Yeah I have pretty much retired my list. I have done the groundwork and now others will take it from here.

Slasher1985's thread is now the definitive work, take it up with him
Slasher's seems like a very interesting and overall more complex and definite list, as you said. I shall give it a look. Last time I did he had only done the top 20 or something and was working on going further.
07-18-2016 10:55 PM
Johnny Groove
Re: Johnny Groove's Top 69 Players Ever (Djokovic #11 of all time, Wawrinka #56)

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Originally Posted by Sapeod View Post
Andy should be MUCH higher up. How in the fuck is Hewitt above him? Yes, he has a lot of weeks at #1 but good god his career is inferior by miles without that. Kuerten and Ashe should be below him now too when you get to editing it. Vilas, however, should be above every single one of them. His career is miles better.
Yeah I have pretty much retired my list. I have done the groundwork and now others will take it from here.

Slasher1985's thread is now the definitive work, take it up with him
07-14-2016 08:03 PM
Sapeod
Re: Johnny Groove's Top 69 Players Ever (Djokovic #11 of all time, Wawrinka #56)

Andy should be MUCH higher up. How in the fuck is Hewitt above him? Yes, he has a lot of weeks at #1 but good god his career is inferior by miles without that. Kuerten and Ashe should be below him now too when you get to editing it. Vilas, however, should be above every single one of them. His career is miles better.
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