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09-23-2012 10:22 AM
nevenez
Re: Who'll Finish The Year Ranked Higher - Berdych or Del Potro?

The better player.
09-23-2012 10:18 AM
Satasonic
Re: Who'll Finish The Year Ranked Higher - Berdych or Del Potro?

Sadly, it will be Berdych. Del Potro has injury issues at the moment and Berdych will most certainly capitalise in the indoor swing.
09-23-2012 07:48 AM
Chirag
Re: Who'll Finish The Year Ranked Higher - Berdych or Del Potro?

Berdych
09-23-2012 07:21 AM
atennisfan
Re: Who'll Finish The Year Ranked Higher - Berdych or Del Potro?

Berdych. no contest.
09-23-2012 05:20 AM
swisht4u
Re: Who'll Finish The Year Ranked Higher - Berdych or Del Potro?

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Originally Posted by Mark Lenders View Post
One word: consistency.

Even on his worst days, JMDP is too consistent for the vast majority of the tour. He never beats himself, you have to beat him. It is not the same Del Potro who won a Slam and was about to break into the top 3 back in 2009/early 2010, but his consistent power is still too much to handle for all but a handful of players.
I think your right, even without putting a lot on the ball he can get it back pretty well. He doesn't give away a lot of free points.
09-23-2012 05:09 AM
Mark Lenders
Re: Who'll Finish The Year Ranked Higher - Berdych or Del Potro?

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Originally Posted by swisht4u View Post
I went with DelPo.

DelPo is a strange player.
I try to see his matches whenever I can and see about half of them.

When DelPo plays I have a hard time figuring out how he wins.

He seems to move so slow and doesn't really hit the ball hard a lot of the time.
The serve is pretty good but not for someone as tall as he is, he should be using that height advantage more on the serve.

His endurance is lacking, at times he'll just get the ball back and many times he won't even run for balls that he can get to if he wants.
He just tries to conserve energy whenever he can.

My main gripe is his endurance, I've seen plenty of matches where he just isn't putting full effort in moving around the court.
When he does then he's drained for a few points.

There's no reason he can't be in top physical condition, if he can get this area in good shape like it was in 2009 he'll save himself a few sets before getting into the later stages of tournaments.
And when he gets to the final matches he'll not only have the extra endurance he worked for but less sets played on top of that.

I'm still waiting for prime Delpo.
One word: consistency.

Even on his worst days, JMDP is too consistent for the vast majority of the tour. He never beats himself, you have to beat him. It is not the same Del Potro who won a Slam and was about to break into the top 3 back in 2009/early 2010, but his consistent power is still too much to handle for all but a handful of players.
09-23-2012 05:06 AM
Roy Emerson
Re: Who'll Finish The Year Ranked Higher - Berdych or Del Potro?

Berdych
09-23-2012 05:01 AM
swisht4u
Re: Who'll Finish The Year Ranked Higher - Berdych or Del Potro?

I went with DelPo.

DelPo is a strange player.
I try to see his matches whenever I can and see about half of them.

When DelPo plays I have a hard time figuring out how he wins.

He seems to move so slow and doesn't really hit the ball hard a lot of the time.
The serve is pretty good but not for someone as tall as he is, he should be using that height advantage more on the serve.

His endurance is lacking, at times he'll just get the ball back and many times he won't even run for balls that he can get to if he wants.
He just tries to conserve energy whenever he can.

My main gripe is his endurance, I've seen plenty of matches where he just isn't putting full effort in moving around the court.
When he does then he's drained for a few points.

There's no reason he can't be in top physical condition, if he can get this area in good shape like it was in 2009 he'll save himself a few sets before getting into the later stages of tournaments.
And when he gets to the final matches he'll not only have the extra endurance he worked for but less sets played on top of that.

I'm still waiting for prime Delpo.
09-23-2012 04:54 AM
GOATsol
Re: Who'll Finish The Year Ranked Higher - Berdych or Del Potro?

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Originally Posted by Mark Lenders View Post
I can't goodrep you either, but I'll make sure to get back to this post and rep it when I can. It deserves it, you can definitely recognize a great tennis analyst when you see one Seriously, thanks

Hope the predictions in your sig both come true, especially the first one
09-23-2012 04:42 AM
uxyzapenje
Re: Who'll Finish The Year Ranked Higher - Berdych or Del Potro?

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Originally Posted by finishingmove View Post
Whoever ________ ...

(finish the sentence)
Whoever likes fish sticks and putting them in his mouth is a gay fish...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md6qOBJba6Y
09-23-2012 04:39 AM
uxyzapenje
Re: Who'll Finish The Year Ranked Higher - Berdych or Del Potro?

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Originally Posted by Mark Lenders View Post
I can't goodrep you either, but I'll make sure to get back to this post and rep it when I can. It deserves it, you can definitely recognize a great tennis analyst when you see one Seriously, thanks

Hope the predictions in your sig both come true, especially the first one
I would take the 2nd one.
P.S. I can good rep you both, but I don't think I will. Maybe tomorrow
09-23-2012 04:37 AM
finishingmove
Re: Who'll Finish The Year Ranked Higher - Berdych or Del Potro?

Whoever ________ ...

(finish the sentence)
09-23-2012 04:35 AM
Mark Lenders
Re: Who'll Finish The Year Ranked Higher - Berdych or Del Potro?

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Originally Posted by GOATsol View Post
I can't goodrep you Lenders, but I completely agree with you! You are a great tennis analyst.
I can't goodrep you either, but I'll make sure to get back to this post and rep it when I can. It deserves it, you can definitely recognize a great tennis analyst when you see one Seriously, thanks

Hope the predictions in your sig both come true, especially the first one
09-23-2012 04:27 AM
GOATsol
Re: Who'll Finish The Year Ranked Higher - Berdych or Del Potro?

I can't goodrep you Lenders, but I completely agree with you! You are a great tennis analyst.
09-23-2012 04:25 AM
Mark Lenders
Re: Who'll Finish The Year Ranked Higher - Berdych or Del Potro?

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Originally Posted by uxyzapenje View Post
Yes, I said it. But i ment his 2009 FH, not the current version of it. It's still one of the best and his money shot, but not that good that players can't get it back. That's why he soses against Novak, Murray, Ferrer... They just get his FH back to him (to his BH) and his massive stoke from the previous shot is neutralised. Against the guys like Berdych or Tsonga, he can just outpower them and beat them, no problem... And by the way, 'today' i would say Nadal's topspin FH is the best shot in the game (nout counting Isner's 1st serve)
His forehand is back, imo. He has been hitting it great since the Olympics. In OG, his FH was deadly against Nishikori, Federer and Djokovic, it was the first time since his comeback he hit it like it was 2009 all over again and he kept that up I think. He won a match vs Troicki while slicing every BH simply because as soon as he got to hit one single FH during a rally the point was over. Against Novak in USO, he had no BH (wrist problem), he hit 0 BH winners, all the trouble he caused to Novak in that match came from his awesome forehand. He has finally gotten over that mental barrier and is hitting his FH in full flow again, I think.

Yes, the biggest weapon in men's tennis is definitely Isner's serve. In terms of groundstrokes, it'd have to be a forehand and it'd come down to Federer, Nadal or Del Potro's. Nadal's topspin FH is a great shout definitely, not only is it a deadly shot, it also makes him a bad matchup for the vast majority of the tour. Federer has the most versatile FH maybe ever. JMDP trumps everyone for sheer power/pace.
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