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09-03-2012 10:54 PM
andylovesaustin
Re: Roddick injured since Eastbourne

I think Andy did the best he could with the talent he had.

I just think.. and this is stating the obvious: Andy isn't Pete, Andre, or Connors.

For sure Andy is a very polarizing and charismatic tennis player.

I'm going to miss my love/hate relationship I have with Andy as a competitor. But... I do think his heart is in the right place as far as trying to give back.

So Bravo to Andy Roddick: you made the sport interesting and you will be missed.

I'm glad he's going out on his own terms.
09-03-2012 10:43 PM
Burrow
Re: Roddick injured since Eastbourne

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Originally Posted by dencod16 View Post
LOL, if you number 6 in the world and hasn't played a lot of tournaments if that isn't part of your greater years i don;t know what is.
I've already told you why 2006 isn't part of his prime, if you choose to ignore that, then that's your problem. It looks to me like you didn't watch tennis in 2003 and 2004 and probably neither 2006, juding by 90% of your not so good posts. It seems like you're the one who's guilty of "posting for the sake of posting" as you'd put it to other members

Here's a little extra information to feed your ignorance:

1. Roddick never had a considerable clay court season nor a considerable winter in 2003 either, so they're directly comparable. In 2004, he also completely missed 3 TMS events, yet still had a considerably more successful year.
2. Here's the part where you actually need to have a working eye and brain cell; You need to watch his matches to analyse his performance. If you think that his performance level in 2006 is close to as good, then you might be onto something...but it's not.

09-03-2012 05:41 PM
dencod16
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It doesn't matter if it was part of his better years. When someone peaks, you analyse where they have maintained their highest performance levels and he certainly wasn't at his best during 2006 and neither 2005. It's hard to consider any time after his spell with Dean Goldfine as his "prime".
LOL, if you number 6 in the world and hasn't played a lot of tournaments if that isn't part of your greater years i don;t know what is.
09-03-2012 04:35 PM
MaxPower
Re: Roddick injured since Eastbourne

Thought most tennisfans knew the difference between injured and INJURED by now
09-03-2012 04:33 PM
Burrow
Re: Roddick injured since Eastbourne

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Originally Posted by dencod16 View Post
Its was part of his greater years, he did not play in 3 masters event but yet he was still number 6 in the world, considering he sucks on French that's impressive.
It doesn't matter if it was part of his better years. When someone peaks, you analyse where they have maintained their highest performance levels and he certainly wasn't at his best during 2006 and neither 2005. It's hard to consider any time after his spell with Dean Goldfine as his "prime".
09-03-2012 04:27 PM
Corey Feldman
Re: Roddick injured since Eastbourne

all part of the super hero act
09-03-2012 04:09 PM
yesyesok
Re: Roddick injured since Eastbourne

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Originally Posted by dencod16 View Post
Its was part of his greater years, he did not play in 3 masters event but yet he was still number 6 in the world, considering he sucks on French that's impressive.
Thank you.

03-05, Whatever. The point is he peaked before Djokovic was a contender.
09-03-2012 01:12 PM
dencod16
Re: Roddick injured since Eastbourne

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Originally Posted by Burrow View Post
Roddick was in his prime in 2006? This is news to me.
Its was part of his greater years, he did not play in 3 masters event but yet he was still number 6 in the world, considering he sucks on French that's impressive.
09-03-2012 12:57 PM
Burrow
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Originally Posted by yesyesok View Post
Maybe you should have looked at the head to head in more depth before lecturing others on it?

Peak Roddick was 03-06, Djokovic won a slam in 2008 and "arrived", he didn't get any better until 2011 but he appears to have fallen to his previous (2008-2010) level.

At the end of 2008 the head to head read "Roddick 1-2 Djokovic"

In 2009 and 2010 the head to head was "Roddick 4-1 Djokovic".

In 2012 when Roddick is in terminal decline and apparently injured it is "Roddick 0-1 Djokovic".

So actually Roddick has beat current level Novak plenty times, thrice in a masters series and once in a grand slam.

Clearly the Roddick from Wimbledon/Olympics will not have a chance v Djokovic, but if he ups his game to its pre 2011 level seeing as it's his last tournament, home crowd, whatever, there's nothing to stop him winning.

Personally I think he'll lose to Del Potro in 3, but it is entirely true if he beats DP he can beat Djokovic.

Sometimes you just need to give these things more thought thAn just looking at pure numbers without the history behind them.
Roddick was in his prime in 2006? This is news to me.
09-03-2012 12:32 PM
yesyesok
Re: Roddick injured since Eastbourne

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Originally Posted by grahampros View Post
Because you'd need to look at recent records. The wins against Nole were slanted earlier in the rivalry, not recently. Del will probably beat Andy, if he doesn't Nole is likely to blow him off the court again as he did at the Olympics. One has to give things more thought then just looking at pure numbers without the history behind them.
Maybe you should have looked at the head to head in more depth before lecturing others on it?

Peak Roddick was 03-06, Djokovic won a slam in 2008 and "arrived", he didn't get any better until 2011 but he appears to have fallen to his previous (2008-2010) level.

At the end of 2008 the head to head read "Roddick 1-2 Djokovic"

In 2009 and 2010 the head to head was "Roddick 4-1 Djokovic".

In 2012 when Roddick is in terminal decline and apparently injured it is "Roddick 0-1 Djokovic".

So actually Roddick has beat current level Novak plenty times, thrice in a masters series and once in a grand slam.

Clearly the Roddick from Wimbledon/Olympics will not have a chance v Djokovic, but if he ups his game to its pre 2011 level seeing as it's his last tournament, home crowd, whatever, there's nothing to stop him winning.

Personally I think he'll lose to Del Potro in 3, but it is entirely true if he beats DP he can beat Djokovic.

Sometimes you just need to give these things more thought thAn just looking at pure numbers without the history behind them.
09-03-2012 07:55 AM
Litotes
Re: Roddick injured since Eastbourne

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Originally Posted by grahampros View Post
Not really. Del po is looking pretty ragged right now. It in no way correlates to taking on Nole later if Andy were to win.
You are of course welcome to your own opinion. I would advise you to refrain from comments like "One has to give things more thought", though, as they mainly reflect on the speaker, not the person spoken to.
09-03-2012 07:46 AM
grahampros
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Originally Posted by Litotes View Post
A Roddick win against Del Potro would surely mean he's playing as well as a few years ago. And Djokovic is not his 2011-self. So you can rest assured one did give things more thought.
Not really. Del po is looking pretty ragged right now. It in no way correlates to taking on Nole later if Andy were to win.
09-03-2012 07:29 AM
Litotes
Re: Roddick injured since Eastbourne

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Originally Posted by grahampros View Post
Because you'd need to look at recent records. The wins against Nole were slanted earlier in the rivalry, not recently. Del will probably beat Andy, if he doesn't Nole is likely to blow him off the court again as he did at the Olympics. One has to give things more thought then just looking at pure numbers without the history behind them.
A Roddick win against Del Potro would surely mean he's playing as well as a few years ago. And Djokovic is not his 2011-self. So you can rest assured one did give things more thought.
09-03-2012 07:22 AM
grahampros
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Originally Posted by Litotes View Post
Roddick is 1-3 against Del Potro and 5-4 against Djokovic, so if he beats the first I don't see why he shouldn't beat the other as well.
Because you'd need to look at recent records. The wins against Nole were slanted earlier in the rivalry, not recently. Del will probably beat Andy, if he doesn't Nole is likely to blow him off the court again as he did at the Olympics. One has to give things more thought then just looking at pure numbers without the history behind them.
09-03-2012 07:18 AM
Litotes
Re: Roddick injured since Eastbourne

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Originally Posted by SheepleBuster View Post
No I know. But that would be the best way to go out. Say... I was undefeated when I left the game cause you know he is going to get bageled by Nole even if he beats Del Po
Roddick is 1-3 against Del Potro and 5-4 against Djokovic, so if he beats the first I don't see why he shouldn't beat the other as well.
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