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08-15-2012 09:07 AM
Vida
Re: A new way of moderation

absolutely. reviewing someones behavior, banning someone cause he/she failed to fulfill a promise to alter his behavior.... these and alike are all nonsense.
08-13-2012 12:05 AM
emotion
Re: A new way of moderation

How about we just dont ban except spam
08-08-2012 11:16 PM
gaitare
Re: A new way of moderation

Quote:
Originally Posted by masterclass View Post
I think the ignore function is wrong in many ways.
It doesn't solve the problem.
Why should I have to do anything? I'm not at fault or in the wrong.
The people that are at fault are the ones breaking the rules.
Their rule-breaking posts shouldn't exist, or should be in some cesspool forum.
"Ignore" is an easy way out, that is too broad-brushed.
If 20% of their posts are rule-breaking, maybe 80% are not.
Those 20% shouldn't be in my way or in my sight, but maybe some of the other 80% are worth reading. Some of the people that occasionally break the rules can also be humorous.
Furthermore, a quoted post by an ignored user still appears from what I understand.

The ignore solves almost nothing, except burying one's head in the sand.
I simply don't think it's worth much of anything.
The problem needs to be solved, not ignored.

Respectfully,
masterclass
Ignore is one of the best things on MTF. It's better than any possible team of mods with their rules, small biases, permabans, not being able to see everything and what not because it allows the forum to "moderate" itself. YOU personally decide whether to "ban" a poster in your eyes or not. If many posters decided to ignore the same idiot the idiot would lose audience (and interest). But it seems that either people are unaware of this function or they want to read and interact with idiots/trolls because MTF is not only about knowledgeable tennis discussion but also (even more importantly) about pure entertainment.
08-08-2012 11:06 PM
Mae
Re: A new way of moderation

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kat_YYZ View Post
That's true. The recently re-opened "roasting threads" divert less than 10 per cent of the nasty gloating from the match threads.
Why would "roasting threads" be reopened? I thought once a thread was closed it was closed! So you think it was done to divert nasty gloating from the match threads? That won't help anything IMHO.
08-08-2012 06:53 PM
BigJohn
Re: A new way of moderation

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kat_YYZ View Post
That's true. The recently re-opened "roasting threads" divert less than 10 per cent of the nasty gloating from the match threads.
The damage was already done. It was a stupid decision to start with to give-in to terrorism and lock them for so long.
08-08-2012 05:12 PM
Kat_YYZ
Re: A new way of moderation

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bulldog View Post
These trolls want their posts to be read though, and if there was a 'hell' sub forum, nobody would read them, so they wouldn't do it. They'd continue to troll the main parts of the site.
That's true. The recently re-opened "roasting threads" divert less than 10 per cent of the nasty gloating from the match threads.
08-08-2012 06:05 AM
Mae
Re: A new way of moderation

Quote:
Originally Posted by masterclass View Post
I think the ignore function is wrong in many ways.
It doesn't solve the problem.
Why should I have to do anything? I'm not at fault or in the wrong.
The people that are at fault are the ones breaking the rules.
Their rule-breaking posts shouldn't exist, or should be in some cesspool forum.
"Ignore" is an easy way out, that is too broad-brushed.
If 20% of their posts are rule-breaking, maybe 80% are not.
Those 20% shouldn't be in my way or in my sight, but maybe some of the other 80% are worth reading. Some of the people that occasionally break the rules can also be humorous.
Furthermore, a quoted post by an ignored user still appears from what I understand.

The ignore solves almost nothing, except burying one's head in the sand.
I simply don't think it's worth much of anything.
The problem needs to be solved, not ignored.

Respectfully,
masterclass
Sorry masterclass you know I have only the greatest respect for you, but if the ignore function is "burying one's head in the sand" I would rather do that than become involved in fights, etc. And since there are only two posters on my ignore list I don't think my head is buried too deeply in the sand as to not know what is going on at MTF. And actually you don't even have to put a poster on your ignore list you can just ignore them!
08-07-2012 03:51 PM
HKz
Re: A new way of moderation

Quote:
Originally Posted by masterclass View Post
I think the ignore function is wrong in many ways.
It doesn't solve the problem.
Why should I have to do anything? I'm not at fault or in the wrong.
The people that are at fault are the ones breaking the rules.
Their rule-breaking posts shouldn't exist, or should be in some cesspool forum.
"Ignore" is an easy way out, that is too broad-brushed.
If 20% of their posts are rule-breaking, maybe 80% are not.
Those 20% shouldn't be in my way or in my sight, but maybe some of the other 80% are worth reading. Some of the people that occasionally break the rules can also be humorous.
Furthermore, a quoted post by an ignored user still appears from what I understand.

The ignore solves almost nothing, except burying one's head in the sand.
I simply don't think it's worth much of anything.
The problem needs to be solved, not ignored.

Respectfully,
masterclass
Oh gosh, high class citizen right here.. Hey, have you ever experienced this thing called "life"? Because seriously, you can't escape people you consider assholes or those that say stuff you don't want to hear, yet you think MTF is supposed to be different from "life"..? I also find your post to be quite ironic, considering your stance with Clay Girl. You want his ban to be rescinded, yet you just said that rule-breaking posts shouldn't exist, but I wonder how he got permabanned.

Fact is, your idea is utterly ridiculous. What makes you think creating a subforum to allow users to "vent their trollation" would cause trolls, retards, etc to vanish from GM? I mean seriously, are you that oblivious? There is no way to "solve" this, you can only ignore people/posts you dislike (there will always be new posters to "piss you off" mind you) or just let it be. Clearly the mods do their job by issuing out infractions, temp bans and bans to posters who actually deserve them. If these "bad posters" aren't getting them (which frankly you can't even tell if they are getting warnings/infractions to begin with so don't assume shit) then they are either lucky or their posts actually aren't that bad and you are just overreacting for no reason. Seriously, this is a waste of time and extremely foolish to think otherwise.
08-07-2012 03:15 PM
masterclass
Re: A new way of moderation

I think the ignore function is wrong in many ways.
It doesn't solve the problem.
Why should I have to do anything? I'm not at fault or in the wrong.
The people that are at fault are the ones breaking the rules.
Their rule-breaking posts shouldn't exist, or should be in some cesspool forum.
"Ignore" is an easy way out, that is too broad-brushed.
If 20% of their posts are rule-breaking, maybe 80% are not.
Those 20% shouldn't be in my way or in my sight, but maybe some of the other 80% are worth reading. Some of the people that occasionally break the rules can also be humorous.
Furthermore, a quoted post by an ignored user still appears from what I understand.

The ignore solves almost nothing, except burying one's head in the sand.
I simply don't think it's worth much of anything.
The problem needs to be solved, not ignored.

Respectfully,
masterclass
08-07-2012 02:48 PM
HKz
Re: A new way of moderation

Seriously? You want all this to transpire when one could easily just ignore those posters by literally using the ignore feature?

If you care -> ignore
If you don't -> don't ignore

Not sure how much more simple this could be.
08-07-2012 04:22 AM
Mae
Re: A new way of moderation

I think this idea had already been brought up in the past. But what I can't understand is why some posters seem to not want to use "ignore". It is a great function to have, but no they would rather get in fights and get people banned
08-07-2012 03:29 AM
Punky
Re: A new way of moderation

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bulldog View Post
These trolls want their posts to be read though, and if there was a 'hell' sub forum, nobody would read them, so they wouldn't do it. They'd continue to troll the main parts of the site.
sadly he is right.
they like the center stage and wont give up on it, they want to troll when everyone are reading
08-07-2012 01:16 AM
Mimi
Re: A new way of moderation

very good suggestion, masterclass
08-07-2012 01:00 AM
Sunset of Age
Re: A new way of moderation

Quote:
Originally Posted by tripwires View Post
Just put the trolls on ignore. Problem solved.
This - and/or grow a thick skin and finally learn to laugh about the ridiculous rubbish being posted all the time on MTF.
From personal experience I know it's not easy, but sometime one should be able to manage.
08-07-2012 12:55 AM
tripwires
Re: A new way of moderation

Just put the trolls on ignore. Problem solved.
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