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07-27-2012 02:36 PM
Sophitia36
Re: Name me some top 100 players who are notorious point vultures

There is no such thing as "vulturing." It's a stupid concept invented by frustrated haters who need to get a life instead of laughing at photo montages of players with a vulture's body...

Ferrer plays a lot, so what? He trains on different surfaces by playing weaker tournaments, gets a few points, then goes on to play major events and always holds his rank in them.
If other players are not happy, let them play as much as he does, and as consistently. The players who are ranked above him are usually the same players who beat him in major tournaments, so there is nothing to complain about. Period.
07-27-2012 01:27 AM
Vinceremo
Re: Name me some top 100 players who are notorious point vultures

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Lorenzi
Seems to be building up himself nicely with challengers then as soon as he becomes eligible to compete to more ATP events he gets his ass royally royally...back to challengers for some more then back to ATP events and so forth.
That wouldn't qualify as 'vulturing' though, Lorenzi's just a medium/high level Challenger player who actually tries to play ATP events when his ranking allows it. He's not a solid top 100 player really. I don't know but it's just odd to call someone a vulture when he can't even win matches at ATP level consistently. As a matter of fact, kudos to him for actually trying at ATP level when he can get in!
07-27-2012 01:24 AM
Honestly
Re: Name me some top 100 players who are notorious point vultures

Vulturedull is all that needs to be said here. No other vulture has ever won 11 slams. /thread
07-27-2012 01:18 AM
nastoff
Re: Name me some top 100 players who are notorious point vultures

Lorenzi
Seems to be building up himself nicely with challengers then as soon as he becomes eligible to compete to more ATP events he gets his ass royally royally...back to challengers for some more then back to ATP events and so forth.
07-27-2012 12:55 AM
sera$un
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07-27-2012 12:27 AM
TigerTim
Re: Name me some top 100 players who are notorious point vultures



Murray has so many of those plates, he could serve a 4 course dinner now!
07-27-2012 12:19 AM
sera$un
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07-11-2012 07:33 AM
Time Violation
Re: Name me some top 100 players who are notorious point vultures

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No, you said that if these guys wanted to win a Slam, first they had to get past Ferrer, which is clearly false. Each of them is far more likely than Ferrer to win a Slam than Ferrer despite being ranked below him at the moment.
Yea, sure. On paper they seem to be more likely, but in reality only Del Po won 1 slam, all other slams for years now were won by Fedal and recently Nole. Bottom line, your "more likely" means nothing.
07-11-2012 03:46 AM
dencod16
Re: Name me some top 100 players who are notorious point vultures

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Monaco and Granollers are typical vultures as well. A bit of a running trend with the hispanic grinders. The lack of talent within their game forces them to play like walls, therefore they cannot play against the big boys and can only compete in lower league tourneys. The baseline pushing is a massive hindrance to these players if they want to achieve big things in tennis. They have the fight but not the skill.
Wait isn't Monaco the one that has 2-2 against Murray and those matches all happened on big stages not 250's, He has also pushed Djokovic in the last few meetings they have had. Kohli has played 5 more tournaments than Monaco, because his more of a grinder than Monaco, Seppi too played even more events this year, his such a pusher. Well, Granollers grunting is even more unbearable than anything i've heard.
07-11-2012 03:42 AM
buddyholly
Re: Name me some top 100 players who are notorious point vultures

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Each of them is far more likely than Ferrer to win a Slam than Ferrer despite being ranked below him at the moment.
Not if they meet Ferrer in the draw. For DelPo, the evidence is clear. But then, maybe for you it is not about evidence, just favouritism.
07-11-2012 03:40 AM
buddyholly
Re: Name me some top 100 players who are notorious point vultures

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With Delpo being the exception because he already won a slam and was ranked ahead of Ferrer after doing so, the other guys have to actually win a slam before they deserve to be ranked ahead of Ferrer. Otherwise they still have the same number of slam titles as Ferrer himself.
This thread could just as easily be about slam vultures, who try hard for a couple of weeks a year when there are big point payoffs, but laze around the rest of the year not giving a full effort.

As I said, it does not matter what is being discussed, in the end it comes down to fanboys praising their faves and finding reasons to hate the others.
07-11-2012 03:37 AM
dencod16
Re: Name me some top 100 players who are notorious point vultures

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I see Lopez was a wild card in Bogota. I suspect they pleaded with him to come and add a ''name'' to the draw.


And anyway, as you can see from the post above about Ferrer, some innocent fanboys write about how undeserving he is of his ranking, without even stopping to look at his record against lesser-ranked players.
No, i think he really wanted to play, there is a reason why he wasn't on the entry list. a top 20 or top 30, but it think its top 20 cannot enter a challenger directly they can only enter by a wild card.
07-11-2012 03:04 AM
delpiero7
Re: Name me some top 100 players who are notorious point vultures

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Originally Posted by Mark Lenders View Post
No, you said that if these guys wanted to win a Slam, first they had to get past Ferrer, which is clearly false. Each of them is far more likely than Ferrer to win a Slam than Ferrer despite being ranked below him at the moment.
With Delpo being the exception because he already won a slam and was ranked ahead of Ferrer after doing so, the other guys have to actually win a slam before they deserve to be ranked ahead of Ferrer. Otherwise they still have the same number of slam titles as Ferrer himself.

Take Berdych for example. He may have reached a final, but he has also lost in R1 of at least one slam every year since 2004 (with the exception of 2006). In 2009 and 2010 he finished in the top 8, and looks like he will do so again this year, despite a couple of horrific slam results. Would you rather a player turned up playing their best for only slam tournament a year (and even then not winning it), or consistently playing their best tennis (or somewhere very close to it) in every single tournament they enter, whether it be a slam or a $10k futures?
07-11-2012 02:52 AM
Mark Lenders
Re: Name me some top 100 players who are notorious point vultures

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Well, Del Potro has met Ferrer twice in a Slam - and lost. So, when they meet in a Slam, Ferrer wins. Del Potro can't get past him. Berdych, we don't know, but the win-loss record suggests Ferrer would be the winner.
Tsonga has beaten Ferrer once in a slam, but their rankings position is almost equal.

So in conclusion, I was not talking about how far any of them can go, I was talking about getting past Ferrer if they met in a slam. DelPo, so far, is not up to the task.
No, you said that if these guys wanted to win a Slam, first they had to get past Ferrer, which is clearly false. Each of them is far more likely than Ferrer to win a Slam than Ferrer despite being ranked below him at the moment.
07-11-2012 02:51 AM
buddyholly
Re: Name me some top 100 players who are notorious point vultures

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Precisely. As much as I am a massive fan of Del Potro over Ferrer, the way he got owned by Ferrer at Wimbledon was nothing short of shameful.
It is not about reality here, but about fanboys and their circuit faves.
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