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07-15-2012 11:14 AM
munZe konZa
Re: Grass is made for eating! Wimbledon cheering thread: SF vs Federer

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Originally Posted by Taejin View Post
Not sure what's with the fixation you have with those "optionals". Unless he's hell bent on breaking the record, #1 doesn't matter that much, Hewitt has more weeks and less slams, and nobody cared about that.
I tend to live in the moment and that's how sports goes as well. As far as optionals, I guess you think they don't matter but that's the main reason why he lost #1 but then again you don't think #1 matters so what can I say
07-14-2012 01:18 AM
Chemokine
Re: Grass is made for eating! Wimbledon cheering thread: SF vs Federer

I've been avoiding all tennis forums after Wimbly because I knew all the Fedtards would be wetting themselves, but I thought I might as well put in my 0.02 here.

Nole has definitely not been at 2011 level. That match against Federer was absolutely pathetic. Nole 2011 Wimbledon form would've easily beaten him. I think Nole was probably somewhat rattled by his grandfather dying, but he's definitely lost focus. You can't expect to win when you aren't focused and have such a negative attitude. :-/ Seriously, that 4th set killed me. As soon I saw that Nole was broken, I just ran away. It was just...ugh.

Hopefully Nole will be energized by the Olympics and kick some ass. Fighting for Serbia always seems to recharge his fires. I don't really care about him playing loads of 500s, though he definitely needs to make up on the post USO Asian Swing, but I think he should've played a little more. He didn't really prep for AO 2012, and he came out flat before RG. Nole needs a strong USO series and hopefully a USO win (though I'm rooting for Murray to take his first slam sometime soon...) to re-energize him.

ADJE.

And, GTFO Fedtards. This is the NOVAK DJOKOVIC forum.
07-13-2012 06:09 PM
Time Violation
Re: Grass is made for eating! Wimbledon cheering thread: SF vs Federer

Not sure what's with the fixation you have with those "optionals". Unless he's hell bent on breaking the record, #1 doesn't matter that much, Hewitt has more weeks and less slams, and nobody cared about that.
07-13-2012 06:00 PM
munZe konZa
Re: Grass is made for eating! Wimbledon cheering thread: SF vs Federer

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Originally Posted by Taejin View Post
I doubt it, he looked fine in the early round, even more than that. For the 2 years straight, SF has been his worst result at slam level, can't really complain
Slams are not the problem yet, the problem is losing #1 so meekly mainly because of his refusal to play optionals.
07-13-2012 05:59 PM
munZe konZa
Re: Grass is made for eating! Wimbledon cheering thread: SF vs Federer

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Originally Posted by Yolita View Post
I hope I don't sound bitter because I don't feel bitter. I'm just trying to find some positives and cheer people up. This is a Nole forum and I'm trying to explain what went wrong with Nole in Wimbledon. It's easy to only remember the last match and not the way Nole beat Roger in Rome and in Paris. I'm just trying to put some perspective here, among Nole fans.

Please don't compare that to saying, publicly, during a press conference: "I feel I should be doing the other presser... It's tough to lose to guy like that... How can you play a shot like that on MP? I was taught to believe in hard work... But I guess he's like a junior... slapping shots around and off you go". That was one of, if not the most insulting presser by a top player twards another player. Absolutely shocking.

I never said Roger diodn't deserve his title or any of his wins. And definitely I didn't say that Nole should have won instead of Roger.

But it is a good exercise to analise what happened, why Nole could literally crush Roger in Rome and Paris and not have any fight in him when they met in Wimbledon... I'm trying to find explanations. I'm very surprised you consider that bitter...

Yeah we all know about Fed but that doesn't excuse you to becoming a cheerleader or should I say a glory hunter that acts all positive when the situation calls for action and adaptation.Live in the present or just become a nobody or worse. Don't soothe the ego with positive stuff from the past that is absolutelly useless today.
07-13-2012 05:43 PM
munZe konZa
Re: Grass is made for eating! Wimbledon cheering thread: SF vs Federer

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Originally Posted by Yolita View Post
That would be shortsighted, in my opinion.

He has to get rested for the important tournaments: Olympics, Canada, Cincy, USO.

He has played 2 tournaments who count as 500s: Dubai and Monte Carlo. He can play Beijing and Basel and make up for last year's underperforming, to make sure he ends the year as #1.

If he gets distracted by clay and then loses in the Olympics or Masters it will be very difficult to regain the #1.

Don't give so much importance to one match when he was low on energy. That's tennis. He'll bounce back. He may even beat Roger on grass fighting for the gold medal.

One question: why are Roger fans visiting us? Are they not happy enough with their man that they have to come her? So Nole is in Roger's head (did you notice how many times he mentioned his losses to Nole?) and we are in Roger's fans' heads... Me likey.
Unless you have been living under a rock, he has been weak in the main tournaments and he is not winning.
In the RG, he played like he didn't want to be there and the less said about wimbledon , the better.

So there is no basis to say that lower tournaments can ruin his "preparation" when he is not winning but he desperately needs optional points.
07-11-2012 12:48 PM
arm
Re: Grass is made for eating! Wimbledon cheering thread: SF vs Federer

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Originally Posted by Taejin View Post
I doubt it, he looked fine in the early round, even more than that. For the 2 years straight, SF has been his worst result at slam level, can't really complain
That is What I think as well we can't always win
07-11-2012 12:39 PM
Time Violation
Re: Grass is made for eating! Wimbledon cheering thread: SF vs Federer

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Originally Posted by arm View Post
Is there any indications of this? I didn't notice anything, he seemed just fine to me. And I really hope this isn't the case.
I doubt it, he looked fine in the early round, even more than that. For the 2 years straight, SF has been his worst result at slam level, can't really complain
07-11-2012 11:52 AM
arm
Re: Grass is made for eating! Wimbledon cheering thread: SF vs Federer

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Originally Posted by Yolita View Post
Somebody at the Official Novak forum suggested that Nole may be having personal problems. He is very emotional. Everything has to be right. Maybe he is having some personal issues. I hope he gets himself sorted out.
Is there any indications of this? I didn't notice anything, he seemed just fine to me. And I really hope this isn't the case.

He hasn't been as strong as we could be, but that is only normal. You can't be at the top of your game 24/7. And I fear he lost a bit of self confidence and belief after those losses to Rafa. And it hurt his ego and confidence.

I think he will be fine, sooner than we expect.
07-11-2012 10:20 AM
Time Violation
Re: Grass is made for eating! Wimbledon cheering thread: SF vs Federer

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Originally Posted by NID View Post
nadal suffered a fluke loss. rosol was playing like posessed. nadal actually played better than fed or nole in their semis, and still lost. rosol was just unreal and would have beaten anyone on the day.
You cannot know that. The last time Nole had "fluke loss" was 4 years ago, and even then it was to Safin, who is way, way above the likes of Rosol.
07-11-2012 09:15 AM
NID
Re: Grass is made for eating! Wimbledon cheering thread: SF vs Federer

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Originally Posted by Taejin View Post
Well, Nadal was sent packing right after winning RG, Fed won a GS after 2 yrs of frustration, Murray is still slamless... further down the road Lendl never won Wimbledon, Wilander and JMac never won anything anymore after their best seasons, and a whole bunch of great players never won anything big. Try to be more realistic, winning all the time is obviously incredibly hard.
nadal suffered a fluke loss. rosol was playing like posessed. nadal actually played better than fed or nole in their semis, and still lost. rosol was just unreal and would have beaten anyone on the day.
i am realistic, i am just saying that he changed his attitude on court ever since that injury in the dc.

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Originally Posted by Yolita View Post
Somebody at the Official Novak forum suggested that Nole may be having personal problems. He is very emotional. Everything has to be right. Maybe he is having some personal issues. I hope he gets himself sorted out.
could very well be.
07-10-2012 10:49 PM
Yolita
Re: Grass is made for eating! Wimbledon cheering thread: SF vs Federer

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Originally Posted by NID View Post
he lost both the slam and no. 1, i do not understand all this rationalization going around. basically, since the ao final he lost the killing instict and the will to win. even then, he was helped by nadal, but at least he hanged in there until nadal shoveled that bh into the tramlines. in paris and in london, he came out playing the most important matches as if he did not care.
just like something switched on after he won dc, something switched off after that dc injury and loss to del potro. save for ao flash in the pan, everything he produced so far was lacklustre.
hope that this defeat will spur him into action, but something tells me he will need more than that.
Somebody at the Official Novak forum suggested that Nole may be having personal problems. He is very emotional. Everything has to be right. Maybe he is having some personal issues. I hope he gets himself sorted out.

We didn't expect 2011 to be repeated, but I'm hopeful that the fire will be back at the Olympics, when Nole will be playing for his country.

If he wins, he'll regain the #1. Maybe for only 1 or 2 weeks, but enough for him to remember how close he is to taking it back.

I don't want him to accept being #2. He has to try to end the year as #1.

I think he will.
07-10-2012 04:26 PM
Time Violation
Re: Grass is made for eating! Wimbledon cheering thread: SF vs Federer

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Originally Posted by NID View Post
he lost both the slam and no. 1, i do not understand all this rationalization going around. basically, since the ao final he lost the killing instict and the will to win. even then, he was helped by nadal, but at least he hanged in there until nadal shoveled that bh into the tramlines. in paris and in london, he came out playing the most important matches as if he did not care.
just like something switched on after he won dc, something switched off after that dc injury and loss to del potro. save for ao flash in the pan, everything he produced so far was lacklustre.
hope that this defeat will spur him into action, but something tells me he will need more than that.
Well, Nadal was sent packing right after winning RG, Fed won a GS after 2 yrs of frustration, Murray is still slamless... further down the road Lendl never won Wimbledon, Wilander and JMac never won anything anymore after their best seasons, and a whole bunch of great players never won anything big. Try to be more realistic, winning all the time is obviously incredibly hard.
07-10-2012 04:10 PM
NID
Re: Grass is made for eating! Wimbledon cheering thread: SF vs Federer

he lost both the slam and no. 1, i do not understand all this rationalization going around. basically, since the ao final he lost the killing instict and the will to win. even then, he was helped by nadal, but at least he hanged in there until nadal shoveled that bh into the tramlines. in paris and in london, he came out playing the most important matches as if he did not care.
just like something switched on after he won dc, something switched off after that dc injury and loss to del potro. save for ao flash in the pan, everything he produced so far was lacklustre.
hope that this defeat will spur him into action, but something tells me he will need more than that.
07-09-2012 11:25 PM
Yolita
Re: Grass is made for eating! Wimbledon cheering thread: SF vs Federer

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Originally Posted by munZe konZa View Post
ok there is a clay tournament in Hamburg for 500 after next week.
He has to play this . Getting #1 and playing 500 tournaments. He has
only played 1(dubai) and he can have 5 of them.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/T...s/Hamburg.aspx
That would be shortsighted, in my opinion.

He has to get rested for the important tournaments: Olympics, Canada, Cincy, USO.

He has played 2 tournaments who count as 500s: Dubai and Monte Carlo. He can play Beijing and Basel and make up for last year's underperforming, to make sure he ends the year as #1.

If he gets distracted by clay and then loses in the Olympics or Masters it will be very difficult to regain the #1.

Don't give so much importance to one match when he was low on energy. That's tennis. He'll bounce back. He may even beat Roger on grass fighting for the gold medal.

One question: why are Roger fans visiting us? Are they not happy enough with their man that they have to come her? So Nole is in Roger's head (did you notice how many times he mentioned his losses to Nole?) and we are in Roger's fans' heads... Me likey.
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