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10-18-2012 01:38 PM
stebs
Re: Believe it or not: It's not so unusual to win a slam after 3 years or more withou

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Originally Posted by Sophocles View Post
Don't understand why people are mentioning Fed. He had only 1 season without a slam.
Only one whole season perhaps, but still a 2.5 year gap between AO '10 and W '12, I think masterclass saw that as being close enough to 'about three years'.
10-18-2012 12:45 PM
Sophocles
Re: Believe it or not: It's not so unusual to win a slam after 3 years or more withou

Don't understand why people are mentioning Fed. He had only 1 season without a slam.
10-18-2012 11:49 AM
PiggyGotRoasted
Re: Believe it or not: It's not so unusual to win a slam after 3 years or more withou

Murray in 3 years could do it.

Also Dimitrov in 2020 after his last slam of 18 being wimbledon 2017
10-18-2012 11:43 AM
Litotes
Re: Believe it or not: It's not so unusual to win a slam after 3 years or more withou

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Originally Posted by Han Solo View Post
Great reading of the game there, gentlemen.

Who will be next to join this list? Del Potro, assuming he is able to stay injury free and regain his very best form? Or maybe Nadal?? Is it possible he is unable to find his very best after such a long injury lay off, and will take another season before he can truly challenge for majors again? I doubt it, personally, but...
For Nadal to join, he would have to win something post-FO 2014. FO 2014 would not qualify as it has to be more than two years. Not impossible, perhaps, but certainly not imminent.
10-18-2012 11:42 AM
Litotes
Re: Believe it or not: It's not so unusual to win a slam after 3 years or more withou

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Originally Posted by PiggyGotRoasted View Post
Did Ferrero retire right?
Ferrero will play his last tournament in Valencia next week, so no more slams for him.
10-18-2012 11:40 AM
Han Solo
Re: Believe it or not: It's not so unusual to win a slam after 3 years or more withou

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Originally Posted by GSMnadal View Post
Believe it or not. Okay, not it is.
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Originally Posted by Matt01 View Post
They have a higher chance than Federer (who this whole thread is about I guess) that's for sure.
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Originally Posted by nick the greek View Post
What a Fedtard you are.Could player x be Uglyrer?I think so and yes,NO he will NEVER win a slam again.
respectfully,blah blah,bada bing, bada boom and Bob's your uncle.
Great reading of the game there, gentlemen.

Who will be next to join this list? Del Potro, assuming he is able to stay injury free and regain his very best form? Or maybe Nadal?? Is it possible he is unable to find his very best after such a long injury lay off, and will take another season before he can truly challenge for majors again? I doubt it, personally, but...
10-18-2012 11:36 AM
PiggyGotRoasted
Re: Believe it or not: It's not so unusual to win a slam after 3 years or more withou

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Originally Posted by Litotes View Post
Bump. Federer did in fact become No. 11 on this list. Del Potro is the only current candidate for #12, unless Hewitt works some sort of magic.
Did Ferrero retire right?
10-18-2012 11:17 AM
Litotes
Re: Believe it or not: It's not so unusual to win a slam after 3 years or more withou

Bump. Federer did in fact become No. 11 on this list. Del Potro is the only current candidate for #12, unless Hewitt works some sort of magic.
06-24-2012 12:21 AM
SheepleBuster
Re: Believe it or not: It's not so unusual to win a slam after 3 years or more withou

Roger won't win Wimbledon if he does not improve his form. The way he started the year and ended last year, I had so much hope. But the last couple of months have been shit. I love Roger but his draw is not the easiest either. If he had to face only Nole or Rafa for a win, maybe. But he will have to beat both.
06-24-2012 12:17 AM
Jimnik
Re: Believe it or not: It's not so unusual to win a slam after 3 years or more withou

But it's very unusual after 9 years. Poor Andy.
06-24-2012 12:01 AM
GOAT = Fed
Re: Believe it or not: It's not so unusual to win a slam after 3 years or more withou

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06-23-2012 11:34 PM
GOAT = Fed
Re: Believe it or not: It's not so unusual to win a slam after 3 years or more withou

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Originally Posted by nick the greek View Post
What a Fedtard you are.Could player x be Uglyrer?I think so and yes,NO he will NEVER win a slam again.
respectfully,blah blah,bada bing, bada boom and Bob's your uncle.

Allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies, and are more than just ice king on the cake. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go.
06-23-2012 11:02 PM
nick the greek
Re: Believe it or not: It's not so unusual to win a slam after 3 years or more withou

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Originally Posted by masterclass View Post
I've noticed many at MTF make strong assertions that player x has almost no chance to win a major after not winning one for 2 years or more. Believe it or not, it happens more than people think, even in the presence of strong competition.

Here is a list of players who have gone about 3 years (ex. Sampras 2+) or more between major wins in the Open Era, in chronological order. I've included approximate ages based on birth year:

1. Arthur Ashe (USA) - 1970 AO (age 27) to 1975 WC (32) Ashe beat Borg in the QF in 4 and then Connors in 4 in the Final to win the Wimbledon Championship.

2. Jimmy Connors (USA) - 1978 USO (26) to 1982 WC (32) - Connors went 8 years between Wimbledon wins. He beat John McEnroe in a 5 set thriller at 1982 Wimbledon.

3. Mats Wilander (SWE) - 1985 RG (21) to 1988 AO (24) Defeated Stefan Edberg, then Pat Cash each in 5 sets, becoming the only player to win the Australian Open on grass and hard court. He went on to win at Roland Garros and the US Open.

4. Boris Becker (GER) - 1986 WC (19) to 1989 WC (22) Boris came from 2 sets to 1 down against Ivan Lendl in the semifinal and then smashed Stefan Edberg in the final to win his 3rd Wimbledon title.

5. Boris Becker (GER) - 1991 AO (24) to 1996 A0 (29) After a 5 year major hiatus, Boris won his final major, winning his second Australian Open over Michael Chang in 4 sets.

6. Andre Agassi (USA) - 1995 AO (25) to 1999 RG (29) Agassi came back from injury and other problems, having sunk to a world ranking of 141 in 1997. In 1998 he won 5 titles and rose from 110 to #6 in the world. At Roland Garros in 1999, he came from 2 sets down to beat Andrei Medvedev in 5 sets to become the 5th player in history to complete a Career Grand Slam. Agassi also had 2 2 year gaps from Wimbledon 1992 (22) to the US Open in 1994 (24), and from the Australian Open 2001 (31) to 2003 (33).

7. Gustavo Kuerten (BRA) - 1997 RG (21) to 2000 RG (24) Guga won his 2nd of 3 RG titles. At year's end he was #1, the clay court wizard defeating both Andre Agassi and Pete Sampras back to back on the indoor hard court at the year-end Master's Cup.

8. Pete Sampras (USA) - 2000 WC (29) to 2002 USO (31) Sampras beat Andre Agassi in 4 sets to win his record 14th major in the final tournament of his career.

9. Marit Safin (RUS) - 2000 USO (20) to 2005 (AO) (25) Safin defeated Roger Federer in a tight 5 set SF

10. Novak Djokovic (SRB) - 2008 AO (21) to 2011 (AO) (24) Djokovic's Davis Cup win helped propel him to an Australian Open victory in 3 sets vs. Andy Murray, and a great 2011, additionally winning Wimbledon and the US Open.

Some common factors among all of these players?
1. All were considered or ranked #1 players at some point in their careers.
2. All became multiple major winners, all except Safin having 3 or more major wins.
3. Most of them showed good form during the few months prior to winning again.

There may be more common factors; I'll leave it to you to find them.

Interestingly, the ages in winning after a gap varied from 22 to 33 - 6 occurrences at age 29 or older.

Never count out a champion just because they haven't won in awhile.

Respectfully,
masterclass
What a Fedtard you are.Could player x be Uglyrer?I think so and yes,NO he will NEVER win a slam again.
respectfully,blah blah,bada bing, bada boom and Bob's your uncle.
06-23-2012 10:44 PM
Matt01
Re: Believe it or not: It's not so unusual to win a slam after 3 years or more withou

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Originally Posted by hat__boy View Post
Good thread John. I agree, Ferrero, Hewitt and Roddick can all still win a slam

They have a higher chance than Federer (who this whole thread is about I guess) that's for sure.
06-23-2012 08:16 PM
Alex999
Re: Believe it or not: It's not so unusual to win a slam after 3 years or more withou

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Originally Posted by MIMIC View Post
I wonder who this thread is in reference to
all good players . why do we have to define everything? this thread is pretty refreshing.
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