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02-13-2012 07:57 PM
Clydey
Re: Would Murray have defeated Nadal in AO12?

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Originally Posted by out_grinder View Post
No way was Murray more impressive against Djokovic.

The only reason people think Murray does well against Djokovic is because Djokovic is ALWAYS exhausted by the time he reaches Murray.

Djokovic had an epic with Ferrer in the 2012 AO before meeting Murray, and had an epic battle with Soderling before they met in 2011 Rome.

If they met on equal terms, you'd have to be a blatant Murray-tard not to realize that Djokovic would not lose more than 2 games per set.

Think about it, Djokovic is regularly schooling Nadal. But Nadal is regularly schooling Murray. So why would Djokovic struggle more against the guy that is regularly schooled by the guy he regularly schools?
Amazing logic.

It's interesting that this fatigued Nole always ends up beating Nadal in the final, despite being involved in 3-4 hour semi-finals. If I didn't know better, I would think you were talking utter wank.
02-13-2012 07:55 PM
rocketassist
Re: Would Murray have defeated Nadal in AO12?

out_grinder is just Rodre Fegassi back under a different name.
02-13-2012 07:50 PM
Clydey
Re: Would Murray have defeated Nadal in AO12?

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Originally Posted by BroTree123 View Post
That's because Nadal was tired (2008) and injured (2010) .
The first is a bullshit excuse and the second is an outright lie.

Nadal was down 2 sets when he got injured, on his way to being straight-setted.
02-13-2012 07:42 PM
Certinfy
Re: Would Murray have defeated Nadal in AO12?

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Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
Yeah, that 6-3 6-0 win in 77 minutes must have really exhausted Djokovic.


I admit the first 6 games in that match were epic with Robin outplaying Novak but after he got injured.
02-13-2012 07:34 PM
Singularity
Re: Would Murray have defeated Nadal in AO12?

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Originally Posted by out_grinder View Post
No way was Murray more impressive against Djokovic.

The only reason people think Murray does well against Djokovic is because Djokovic is ALWAYS exhausted by the time he reaches Murray.

Djokovic had an epic with Ferrer in the 2012 AO before meeting Murray, and had an epic battle with Soderling before they met in 2011 Rome.
Yeah, that 6-3 6-0 win in 77 minutes must have really exhausted Djokovic.
02-13-2012 06:21 PM
out_grinder
Re: Would Murray have defeated Nadal in AO12?

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Murray was more impressive vs. Nole. He was pretty much points away from beating a pretty much fresh Djokovic. Nadal couldnt beat a Djokovic who had just been playing a five hour marathon vs. Murray.
No way was Murray more impressive against Djokovic.

The only reason people think Murray does well against Djokovic is because Djokovic is ALWAYS exhausted by the time he reaches Murray.

Djokovic had an epic with Ferrer in the 2012 AO before meeting Murray, and had an epic battle with Soderling before they met in 2011 Rome.

If they met on equal terms, you'd have to be a blatant Murray-tard not to realize that Djokovic would not lose more than 2 games per set.

Think about it, Djokovic is regularly schooling Nadal. But Nadal is regularly schooling Murray. So why would Djokovic struggle more against the guy that is regularly schooled by the guy he regularly schools?
02-13-2012 04:32 PM
NJ88
Re: Would Murray have defeated Nadal in AO12?

Murray was more impressive vs. Nole. He was pretty much points away from beating a pretty much fresh Djokovic. Nadal couldnt beat a Djokovic who had just been playing a five hour marathon vs. Murray.
02-13-2012 04:18 PM
fivebargate
Re: Would Murray have defeated Nadal in AO12?

He would have been in with a shout for sure. We know he has done well against Nadal on this surface....and he looked like a different player mentally out there. The danger would always have been that he didn't feel fresh for the final and subsequently was overwhelmed by a Nadal faking super freshness as he does so well. I kinda think with Lendl onside that those days are past now....and expect to see Murray make inroads with Nadal....maybe even a clay win against hime en route to Paris.
02-13-2012 03:01 PM
Sophocles
Re: Would Murray have defeated Nadal in AO12?

Had he played at the same level, then yes, he would have had every chance. Would he have played at the same level against Nadal in a slam final? That is more doubtful.

He's beaten Nadal in slams but he hasn't done it for a while. Hell, even Federer's beaten Nadal twice in slams. Nobody seriously expects him to do it again.
02-13-2012 02:39 PM
swebright
Re: Would Murray have defeated Nadal in AO12?

No way x 1000
02-13-2012 02:29 PM
Super Djoker
Re: Would Murray have defeated Nadal in AO12?

Big fat no !
02-13-2012 09:32 AM
Alex999
Re: Would Murray have defeated Nadal in AO12?

I don't know. Murray was very well prepared. Even that he lost to Nole, he has nothing to be ashamed of. I think that he can beat Nadal. I mean he did beat him at the USO...
02-13-2012 06:48 AM
MIMIC
Re: Would Murray have defeated Nadal in AO12?

LOL, hell no.

Perhaps Djoker did him a favor, saving him from the embarrassment of going 0-4 in slam finals.
02-13-2012 06:21 AM
Houstonko
Re: Would Murray have defeated Nadal in AO12?

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During the fifth set of the Murray-Djokovic semi final, I seriously thought Murray could have beaten Nadal if he made it through. Looking back though, and remembering the that 4th set "give up" (it wasn't even a collapse, Murray just gave up – served and didn't move, didn't go for shots that were two feet away), Nadal would have eventually prevailed in four sets.
He needs to change his mentality to frontrunner's. He is not used to leading the match but very good at chasing.
02-13-2012 06:19 AM
Houstonko
Re: Would Murray have defeated Nadal in AO12?

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He was tired though seriously, you noobs can't admit that. Murray lucked his way to the final in US Open 2008.....but I think he earned his runs to the finals in AO 10 and 11.
US08 was very fast. In fast surface Nadal and Djoker can't dominate, as simple as that. Today 2 persons playing clay court tennis are dominating. I don't believe defense and endurance are the new evolution, the courts are the cause of it.
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