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02-12-2012 06:28 PM
abraxas21
Re: South American states ban Falklands vessels from ports

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Originally Posted by Black Adam View Post
Obviously because Argentina is all talk. UK has no need to talk because the Falklanders have no interest in discussing turning over their sovereignty to Argentina. End of Story.

All this complaining about nuclear arms in the region, the nukes have been there since 1982.


FYI, the Argentina military is a joke. The only people it can take on are its unarmed citizens. Without Maggie T you folks would still be under a military dictatorship. You owe us thanks, a fruit basket of thanks wouldn't be asking much.
obvious troll is obvious
02-12-2012 01:52 AM
Black Adam
Re: South American states ban Falklands vessels from ports

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There won't be. Keep dreaming. I see who the bellicose is.
Obviously because Argentina is all talk. UK has no need to talk because the Falklanders have no interest in discussing turning over their sovereignty to Argentina. End of Story.

All this complaining about nuclear arms in the region, the nukes have been there since 1982.


FYI, the Argentina military is a joke. The only people it can take on are its unarmed citizens. Without Maggie T you folks would still be under a military dictatorship. You owe us thanks, a fruit basket of thanks wouldn't be asking much.
02-11-2012 11:06 AM
Denaon
Re: South American states ban Falklands vessels from ports

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If there's another war I hope that UK replies further by even bombing Argentina.

Next time they'd think twice.
Think straight boy.
02-11-2012 11:03 AM
Denaon
Re: South American states ban Falklands vessels from ports

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There won't be. Keep dreaming. I see who the bellicose is.
It is quite obvious, isn't it? I wonder the meaning of his Nirvana in his profile
Maxi, thanks for making your voice heard and trying to explain Argentina's position.

Ain't it funny how, in a forum with dozens of argies (most of them quite argumentative), only Maxi decided to discuss this issue? The answer is simple. For most of us, a war is neither wanted nor expected not even worthwhile, it's not the way to get any kind of agreement about the Malvinas.
02-10-2012 11:34 PM
_maxi
Re: South American states ban Falklands vessels from ports

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If there's another war I hope that UK replies further by even bombing Argentina.

Next time they'd think twice.
There won't be. Keep dreaming. I see who the bellicose is.
02-10-2012 10:26 PM
Black Adam
Re: South American states ban Falklands vessels from ports

If there's another war I hope that UK replies further by even bombing Argentina.

Next time they'd think twice.
02-10-2012 10:54 AM
_maxi
Re: South American states ban Falklands vessels from ports

I can't believe the bullshit from the press. And I don't mean the UK press, but the Argentinian one this time. They try to sell however they can. Now they are making big titles about our president speech and the Malvinas/Falklands issue just as a war would be going to happen. The people here is quite, peaceful. Everyone thinks that the 1982 war was a stupid decision and that it would be even more stupid to think of a war again. But the press makes it appear like the people would be concerned about the Malvinas/Falkands problem when it's not at all like that.
02-08-2012 09:53 AM
Black Adam
Re: South American states ban Falklands vessels from ports

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Originally Posted by GugaF1 View Post
As a Brazilian this "issue" is mind boggling to even have an argument over something. I have some Argentinian friends and I can only understand this in speaking with them, they grow up in Argentina with the Malvinas/Falkland being a question of pride, something that is unjust. But from a neutral standpoint it seems just so incredibly small to argue, much less fight over it. A cold, small, Alaska like little island. I wouldn't want it even for free.

South Americas is one of the only and fastest growing region in the World. Nearly all the countries are growing economically, Brazil is growing, Argentina is growing, come on, UK has its own issues to solve economically nowadays, Who gives a f*ck about this little island.
It's about the Principle.

Here's the Foreign Office's statement:
"The people of the Falkland Islands are British out of choice. They are free to determine their own future and there will be no negotiations with Argentina over sovereignty unless the islanders wish it."


There will be no talking with Argentina. The military ships are there to make sure if things escalate, the British citizens and interests are protected. Argentina is being a war-monger in this case.
02-07-2012 11:47 PM
GugaF1
Re: South American states ban Falklands vessels from ports

As a Brazilian this "issue" is mind boggling to even have an argument over something. I have some Argentinian friends and I can only understand this in speaking with them, they grow up in Argentina with the Malvinas/Falkland being a question of pride, something that is unjust. But from a neutral standpoint it seems just so incredibly small to argue, much less fight over it. A cold, small, Alaska like little island. I wouldn't want it even for free.

South Americas is one of the only and fastest growing region in the World. Nearly all the countries are growing economically, Brazil is growing, Argentina is growing, come on, UK has its own issues to solve economically nowadays, Who gives a f*ck about this little island.
02-05-2012 07:12 PM
rocketassist
Re: South American states ban Falklands vessels from ports

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1) Hell, no. Her image is getting better since two years ago I think. He won an election few months ago with the higher % ever here.
2) I won't judge Tatcher. The people from the UK should. And I repeat, Argentina brings this issue every year several times so you are wrong.
3) Honestly I don't know. But a negotiation should start to see how to make both Argentina and the Kelpers happy, that's what I think. UK can't do whatever they want with the lands and the resources that are few miles away from our country. So we need to talk about it that's what I think. But no one is planning a war for this issue. At least not Argentina. That why I'm asking for the "chatting shit" because there wasn't any chatting shit from Argentina. All we did was to ask for negotiation as we always do. And to respect the UN resolution that every year tells the UK to negotiate with Argentina and the UK never listen to.

Peace.
We in the north hate her more than you do probably.
02-05-2012 06:01 PM
buddyholly
Re: South American states ban Falklands vessels from ports

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1) UK can't do whatever they want with the lands and the resources that are few miles away from our country. So we need to talk about it that's what I think.
Uruguay and Chile are zero miles away from your country, but I doubt that they get approval from Argentina before doing what they want with their lands and resources.
Distance is not a valid argument.
And I think the Kelpers, as you call them, have already made clear what will keep them happy. Neither Britain nor the Falkland Islanders has any obligation to keep Argentina happy.
02-05-2012 05:06 PM
_maxi
Re: South American states ban Falklands vessels from ports

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1) Probably because of the Falklands ban. What was it before the issue came up?
2) I was talking about the UK's recession. Argentina figures every time UK has an economic downturn they can take advantage. Unfortunately they came up against the iron lady in 1982. This time it might work.
3) If that's true, what are Argentina's terms? Are they offering economic freedom, self-determination or just money?
1) Hell, no. Her image is getting better since two years ago I think. He won an election few months ago with the higher % ever here.
2) I won't judge Tatcher. The people from the UK should. And I repeat, Argentina brings this issue every year several times so you are wrong.
3) Honestly I don't know. But a negotiation should start to see how to make both Argentina and the Kelpers happy, that's what I think. UK can't do whatever they want with the lands and the resources that are few miles away from our country. So we need to talk about it that's what I think. But no one is planning a war for this issue. At least not Argentina. That why I'm asking for the "chatting shit" because there wasn't any chatting shit from Argentina. All we did was to ask for negotiation as we always do. And to respect the UN resolution that every year tells the UK to negotiate with Argentina and the UK never listen to.

Peace.
02-05-2012 12:48 PM
_maxi
Re: South American states ban Falklands vessels from ports

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You'll notice it all kicked of with Argies chatting shit. No discussion is ever gonna happen and of course Argentina will be schooled when it comes to war. Again.


i thought the sore loser thing was just limited to sports...
I give you 24 hours to quote me exactly what was the "chatting shit" from Argentina. Otherwise you are just lying.
02-05-2012 05:04 AM
Black Adam
Re: South American states ban Falklands vessels from ports

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Originally Posted by abraxas21 View Post
fair enough

i actually dont know that much about it either. however, there has always been bad blood over the falklands. i actually think that the main reason some argies dont like chile very much is that chile supported and collaborated with the brits during the conflict...

it just something that doesnt go away. then again, i think the brits have scalated the conflict by bringing that war ship to the area and many threatening comments. no need for that yet, imo.
You'll notice it all kicked of with Argies chatting shit. No discussion is ever gonna happen and of course Argentina will be schooled when it comes to war. Again.


i thought the sore loser thing was just limited to sports...
02-05-2012 12:19 AM
abraxas21
Re: South American states ban Falklands vessels from ports

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OK, I might have been wrong on President Kirchner's popularity. I said "probably" not "for sure" because I never claimed to know the exact figures.

But the facts are Argentina brings this up every time there's a bad recession in the UK.

I really don't give a shit about this issue so I'm not going to bother fully educating myself on all the details.
fair enough

i actually dont know that much about it either. however, there has always been bad blood over the falklands. i actually think that the main reason some argies dont like chile very much is that chile supported and collaborated with the brits during the conflict...

it just something that doesnt go away. then again, i think the brits have scalated the conflict by bringing that war ship to the area and many threatening comments. no need for that yet, imo.
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