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12-10-2011 05:35 AM
swisht4u
Re: Was Laverīs 69 season best in open era?

The best season should have very few flaws and show a high level through most of the year.

This is the problem with Laver's year.

The 16 losses shows he didn't keep a high level throughout the year.
I would guess he lost in 16 tournaments that year, this isn't the kind of year that would be the best.
His record would be 18 tournament wins out of 34 tournaments.


The CYGS is important but having very few losses is just as important.
All stats have to be looked at, not just one.

McEnroe only lost in 3 tournaments all year for example, now that is a dominant year.
12-10-2011 04:19 AM
guga2120
Re: Was Laverīs 69 season best in open era?

It and Novak this year are the two best.
12-10-2011 02:02 AM
Topspindoctor
Re: Was Laverīs 69 season best in open era?

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Originally Posted by ossie View Post
tennis in those days is like wta tennis compared to nowadays.
You are quickly becoming one of my favorite posters.
12-10-2011 01:31 AM
ossie
Re: Was Laverīs 69 season best in open era?

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Originally Posted by Orka_n View Post
According to you the current era is the strongest ever... so your words don't really have much weight.
you are a flukerling fan so your words hold even less weight
12-09-2011 08:25 PM
Sophocles
Re: Was Laverīs 69 season best in open era?

Don Bradman played when there were - what? - 3 or 4 Test nations at most. He's still the greatest batsman of all time.
12-09-2011 08:22 PM
thrust
Re: Was Laverīs 69 season best in open era?

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Originally Posted by SaFed2005 View Post
Laver played back when only the biggest of nations even played tennis. I would not really have called tennis a WORLD sport back in 69. But that is my opinion. I just feel that the only people who really played were either English or Australian or American. Again its my opinion... just writing my 2 cents. I did not exist in 69 so I can't really say how the quality of play was. I started watching tennis when Agassi and Sampras started playing.
Much of what you say it ture, but the fact is Laver played and won against the best players of his era and all-time great players. There was not the variety of Nations but there were very good players from South America and Eastern Europe playing then too.
12-09-2011 06:36 PM
r2473
Re: Was Laverīs 69 season best in open era?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f06QZCVUHg
12-09-2011 03:44 PM
Orka_n
Re: Was Laverīs 69 season best in open era?

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Originally Posted by ossie View Post
tennis in those days is like wta tennis compared to nowadays.
According to you the current era is the strongest ever... so your words don't really have much weight.
12-09-2011 02:45 PM
thrust
Re: Was Laverīs 69 season best in open era?

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Originally Posted by Gabe32 View Post
I don't know, I wasn't born/know nothing really about it, but it seems like it. 4 slams in one year against those opponents seems pretty impressive.

Also, I always felt like Fed was at his peak in 05-06. Still can't believe Safin snagged that AO in '05.
LAVER, for sure. Not only did he win the Grand Slam, he did it against Much Tougher Competition than Roger had.

Djokovic- McEnroe said Nole's year was better than his in 84, so I take his word for it.

McEnroe 84- Also much tougher competiton than Fed 06, destroying Connors at Wimbledon. Connors had beat him in 5 the year before.
12-09-2011 02:40 PM
nalbyfan
Re: Was Laverīs 69 season best in open era?

Yes and none of today's players can even make a single GS and Laver made 2 GS so he's the best of all
12-09-2011 01:49 PM
ossie
Re: Was Laverīs 69 season best in open era?

tennis in those days is like wta tennis compared to nowadays.
12-09-2011 01:47 PM
Har-Tru
Re: Was Laverīs 69 season best in open era?

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Originally Posted by Sunset of Age View Post
Absolutely, I don't even see why this would be a point of discussion.
The eventual, total achievements/results of any player in a given season is the only objective thing available to designate this, and a complete CYGS season goes above all other achievements. At least imho.
12-09-2011 12:50 PM
noddzy
Re: Was Laverīs 69 season best in open era?

Rod Laver = Don Bradman of tennis. Hmm, both are Aussies Forgive my cricket reference all ye non-cricket peasantry
12-09-2011 12:43 PM
Egreen
Re: Was Laverīs 69 season best in open era?

Yep.

CYGS = Holy Grail of tennis.
12-09-2011 11:56 AM
Orka_n
Re: Was Laverīs 69 season best in open era?

Can't argue with the CYGS. Even if 3 of them were on grass. 18 tournament wins, 120 matches won. Sure, 16 matches lost was it? But there is no such thing as perfect. This is the closest we have come to it as of now.

Federer might have been 1 match away in 2006 (& 2007 too probably) to make his season the best ever, but that's how it goes sometimes.
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