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Who is the most over loved historic person?

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#1 ·
Somebody who is usully very loved but they do not deserve to be. The person can be from any country or any period of time. Is it a eligious person? or a country leader?
 
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#4 ·
strange abraxas. I was going to put him as my answer in the original post. But I didnt want the thread to be just about him. Good answer
 
#316 ·
Yes! Sure he did some important things for Indians mainly the Hindus. But he was a little insensitive to the problems the Muslims were facing. Specially his civil disobedience movement was so damaging for the Muslims of India, who were already down socially and economically.
 
#105 ·
Totally ignorant statement. He didn't start any slave trade himself, plus slavery was a common thing everywhere. Columbus is a true Great of all times.

I'd say Che Guevara, a rabid murderer and psychopat without the slightest touch with reality.
 
#43 · (Edited)
:worship:

You never fail to disappoint.

I would have expected nothing less.
sure thing, bud.

given that you can't recognize fake arguements when you read them, i can personally advise you to read 'open society and its enemies' by karl popper for a critical assesment of plato's political leanings and abudant usage of phalacies, and 'genealogy of morality' by friedrich nietzsche (he was a bit of a clown too but his critique of plato was spot on) for an assesment of plato's morals. they might help you out.

then again, i know you're a fundamentalist Christian so im not sure if those books aren't forbidden for you. :help:
 
#53 · (Edited)
sure thing, bud.

given that you can't recognize fake arguements when you read them, i can personally advise you to read 'open society and its enemies' by karl popper for a critical assesment of plato's political leanings and abudant usage of phalacies, and 'genealogy of morality' by friedrich nietzsche (he was a bit of a clown too but his critique of plato was spot on) for an assesment of plato's morals. they might help you out.

This is getting well off-topic, but fine.

First of all, I am not some kind of strict Platonist that wishes to defend any and all Platonic doctrines. :shrug: He is a brilliant philosopher who has undeniably contributed much to Western thought. There is much to be gained from engaging with Plato, even if we thoroughly reject his overall ontological and/or ethical vision of things.

As for Nietzsche's Genealogy, I've read it and thoroughly enjoyed it, and I appreciate Nietzsche's candor and occasionally brilliant insights. However, needless to say, many of his criticisms fail to hit the mark. He tends to be far more interested in retelling the history of philosophy (and humanity) as a colorful narrative that he can then comment on and critique, rather than engage with the subjects of his critique on their own terms. By and large, his attacks are directed at his own "straw man" versions of Socrates, Christianity, etc.

(But why am I even bothering replying to your useless name-dropping of material that you haven't even read?)

then again, i know you're a fundamentalist Christian so im not sure if those books aren't forbidden for you. :help:
Awwwww snap, dawg, I just got BURNED! :yeah:




P.S. I recognize that you are simply repeating the Magician's epithet "fundamentalist," and it certainly does have that lovely backwoods vibe to it, but I am not, in any strict sense, a "fundamentalist" or part of a "fundamentalist group." "Evangelical" would be a much more accurate term (not that his primary concern or yours was ever accuracy :lol: )
 
#39 ·
Its easy to diss Napoleon because he wanted to bring slavery back but lets remember that the end of the slavery was a petition of the jacobines after the Terror era; Napoleon represented the bourgesy interests and was everything but a humanist. He at least mantained the monarchy out of the power for more 15 years :yeah:
 
#44 · (Edited)
Martin Luther. OCD nutcase who gets the love for speaking out against one sleezebag(Tetzel) and being the puppet behind the real thinker Melanchthon.
 
#46 ·
Mother Teresa :eek:

Horrible woman, felt that that suffering would bring people closer to Jesus, so she set up "clinics" for poor people and let them suffer rather than treat their illnesses so she could pray over them and "save their souls"

http://www.fitz-claridge.com/Articles/MotherTeresa.html
 
#47 ·
Columbus gets off by virtue of living in the fifteenth century.

Che Guevara and De Gaulle are good picks.
 
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