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08-12-2017 02:02 AM
Kateoz
Re: The Everything Davis Cup Thread (News, Articles, Live Scores)

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Originally Posted by Daniel. View Post
Interesting fact:
The 4 youngest men in the ATP doubles top 100 are all Australian.
- #78 Marc Polmans, Age 20
- #75 Nick Kyrgios, Age 22
- #99 Jordan Thompson, Age 23
- #87 Andrew Whittington, Age 23

Then:
- #20 Jack Sock, Age 24
- #16 Mate Pavic, Age 24
- #25 Ryan Harrison, Age 25
Thompson aside though, not sure that any of them are yet looking like top doubles players. And the thing about doubles is that singles ranking counts to get into a tournie; top singles players can often take out the top doubles teams.

Interesting to see four different french teams playing at Montreal, potentially testing out DC combos - three made it as far as QFs, one (usual suspects) into SFs...
08-11-2017 11:27 PM
Daniel.
Re: The Everything Davis Cup Thread (News, Articles, Live Scores)

Interesting fact:
The 4 youngest men in the ATP doubles top 100 are all Australian.
- #78 Marc Polmans, Age 20
- #75 Nick Kyrgios, Age 22
- #99 Jordan Thompson, Age 23
- #87 Andrew Whittington, Age 23

Then:
- #20 Jack Sock, Age 24
- #16 Mate Pavic, Age 24
- #25 Ryan Harrison, Age 25
08-08-2017 08:47 PM
Kateoz
Re: The Everything Davis Cup Thread (News, Articles, Live Scores)

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Originally Posted by B.kelly123 View Post
Although Peers has most certainly earned the right to a spot in the doubles pairing, his lack of an obvious partner is frustrating, with Groth lacking any basis for selection. I'd almost like to see JT and Thanasi get a shot, their doubles chemistry has a lot of potential, but it simply wouldn't be fair to tell our best doubles player to stand on the sidelines.
Pretty evenly balanced at the moment I agree, but I think the issue, particularly in relation to doubles, is really not this tie but looking to build the best team for the final assuming we make it. Most likely against France who have great depth in both singles and doubles. Kokk-Thompson are a nice team, but doubt they are yet at the level necessary to beat some of the potential french combos.

I tend to think Kokk is actually the better doubles player of the two - went deep in various partnerships before his injury - but Thompson has also played with Peers, so that points the other way.

On the other hand, for this round, Thompson has recently beaten Bemelmans, and that experience may be helpful. But for final, we are probably going to have to hope that Kokk is back in full form (or else that Bernie is back on board) on the face of it and that suggests keeping him free for two singles matches.

If I were Hewitt I'd try to hire that Launceston guy who used to coach the Bryans (McPherson?) to give them the kind of intensive on doubles strategies that he gave to Fed-Wawrinka before their DC final and get him to help on working out which of the combos works best.
08-08-2017 04:27 AM
B.kelly123
Re: The Everything Davis Cup Thread (News, Articles, Live Scores)

The mercurial Nick Kyrgios is surely the biggest factor in team selection - his never ending string of injuries (exacerbated by recent heartbreak at being dumped by his girlfriend) could see him ruled out, even if he is healthy when team selections are made.
I'd have to say I see Thanasi and JT as having fairly equal credentials when it comes to spot number two - JT being the steady DC performer and a known quantity, and Thanasi providing the potential to produce a more powerful game, and greater risk of an injury hampered performance. Seeing as the surface is clay - I'd probably give Thanasi a slight edge, but hey, I'm biased.

Although Peers has most certainly earned the right to a spot in the doubles pairing, his lack of an obvious partner is frustrating, with Groth lacking any basis for selection. I'd almost like to see JT and Thanasi get a shot, their doubles chemistry has a lot of potential, but it simply wouldn't be fair to tell our best doubles player to stand on the sidelines.

I'm a bit nervous about team selection/the tie in general - probably because it feels like this our best chance in a long time. God knows tennis needs some positive publicity at the moment - and guys like Thompson, Kokkinakis and Peers can certainly serve as great advocates if given the air time. Kyrgios, though an unwilling advocate of the values that Australian tennis are supposedly about, is well equipped to inspire a lot of people if he can produce his best on this most historical of stages.
08-08-2017 01:41 AM
Kateoz
Re: The Everything Davis Cup Thread (News, Articles, Live Scores)

[QUOTE=TalkonTennis;39663892]Difficult not to agree that Kyrgios/Kokkinakis/Peers/Thompson will be the team as it currently stands.

I think Lleyton pretty much promised Popyrin the orange boy role after he won the junior RG - especially as it was known the Belgians would go for a clay surface in the SF. {/QUOTE]

Really? Saw lots of reports of Popyrin saying he would like to be orange boy, but can't remeber seeing Hewitt on the topic.

But I guess there is a certain logic to it, another player with potentially several possible allegiances who needs to be locked in to Oz!
08-08-2017 01:37 AM
TalkonTennis
Re: The Everything Davis Cup Thread (News, Articles, Live Scores)

Difficult not to agree that Kyrgios/Kokkinakis/Peers/Thompson will be the team as it currently stands.

Quote:
Also suggests Popyrin get the Orange boy role, but you'd have to think Santillan and de Minaur are the more obvious choices at the moment, and some advantages to locking them both in to playing for Australia!
I think Lleyton pretty much promised Popyrin the orange boy role after he won the junior RG - especially as it was known the Belgians would go for a clay surface in the SF. De Minaur has done it for the more recent ties anyway, and Santillan might be keen to get his Asian swing going ASAP after the US Open (I'm sure he'll be the orange boy soon enough).
08-07-2017 02:58 AM
Kateoz
Re: The Everything Davis Cup Thread (News, Articles, Live Scores)

Interesting article on possible DC selections over at the Roar: Davis Cup semi-finals: Who should Lleyton Hewitt pick for Belgium? | The Roar

Suggests that Kyrgios, Thompson and Peers are probably locks for the team and notes that Groth's credentials look pretty weak. Puts Kokk as the wildcard, but written before Kokk got past Berdych: you have to think he is now a lock.

The key issue may well be who gets in as fourth out of Santillan, de Minaur, Millman and Ebden if Kyrgios is still injured/indifferent.

2017 singles results at tour level:

Kyrgios 16-10
Ebden 8-5 (though mostly grass, 5 of those wins are Newport)
Kokkinaksi 6-6
Thompson 9-14
Tomic 9-15
Groth 2-3
Santillan 2-4
de Minaur 2-4
Millman 1-3

Key issue of course is who plays with Peers, so looking at doubles results this year at ATP level:

Kokkinakis 4-1
Thompson 7-4
Groth 7-4
Ebden 3-2

Article makes the obvious point about Groth:

Quote:
Groth has been a permanent fixture alongside Peers on the doubles court for the last couple of seasons. However, paying close analysis to those matches, it’s quite obvious the skill of Peers has carried them to victory.

That being said, even he couldn’t get them over the line on Day 2 of the tie against the USA in the quarter-finals, with the Jack Sock and Steve Johnson combination.

Groth has been picked purely for doubles as well, and it raises plenty of questions given Peers and singles tennis don’t belong in the same sentence.
Also suggests Popyrin get the Orange boy role, but you'd have to think Santillan and de Minaur are the more obvious choices at the moment, and some advantages to locking them both in to playing for Australia!
04-08-2017 05:52 AM
Kateoz
Re: The Everything Davis Cup Thread (News, Articles, Live Scores)

Hate to be proved right...at least Groth-Peers pushed it to 5 I guess. Can't see Sock playing the reverse singles?
04-07-2017 07:27 AM
Kateoz
Re: The Everything Davis Cup Thread (News, Articles, Live Scores)

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Originally Posted by Arsenalex View Post
Sock offered a nice gift which Jordan took advantage of. Hopefully Nick gets over the line vs Isner to give us a 2-0 lead, with talent like Kyrgios and Peers you'd think we wouldn't blow that
There si still the Groth factor to consider though...but if they go two up, I'd put K into the doubles.
04-07-2017 06:42 AM
Arsenalex
Re: The Everything Davis Cup Thread (News, Articles, Live Scores)

Sock offered a nice gift which Jordan took advantage of. Hopefully Nick gets over the line vs Isner to give us a 2-0 lead, with talent like Kyrgios and Peers you'd think we wouldn't blow that
03-31-2017 11:43 PM
Kateoz
Re: The Everything Davis Cup Thread (News, Articles, Live Scores)

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Originally Posted by Daniel. View Post
Kyrgios is capable of outstanding doubles results, in recent weeks with wins over Bopanna / Cuevas (w. Reid) and Bryan / Bryan (w. Zimonjic). Put him with top-5-Peers and there is a very capable team to beat U.S.
As much as playing Kyrgios for 3 best of 5 matches is a high work load for him, I just can't see Groth in current form being up to it in doubles over the strong options U.S have.
We'll go down unless Nick plays 3 matches, its our only hope.
Tend to agree, but doubt Nick has the fitness levels needed to do this - gets injured far too easily.
03-31-2017 11:16 PM
Daniel.
Re: The Everything Davis Cup Thread (News, Articles, Live Scores)

And the for record, I respect Groth's experience, doubles ranking, serve, patriotism and high-energy team spirit to warrant his place in the team. I also respect Hewitt as a captain and respect his judgement to play Groth over the younger options.
03-31-2017 11:03 PM
Daniel.
Re: The Everything Davis Cup Thread (News, Articles, Live Scores)

Kyrgios is capable of outstanding doubles results, in recent weeks with wins over Bopanna / Cuevas (w. Reid) and Bryan / Bryan (w. Zimonjic). Put him with top-5-Peers and there is a very capable team to beat U.S.
As much as playing Kyrgios for 3 best of 5 matches is a high work load for him, I just can't see Groth in current form being up to it in doubles over the strong options U.S have.
We'll go down unless Nick plays 3 matches, its our only hope.
03-31-2017 08:42 PM
Kateoz
Re: The Everything Davis Cup Thread (News, Articles, Live Scores)

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Originally Posted by Dmitry Verdasco View Post
lol
Yes I know, broken record.

But odds are we are going to lose anyway so nothing on the line...
03-31-2017 10:33 AM
Dmitry Verdasco
Re: The Everything Davis Cup Thread (News, Articles, Live Scores)

lol
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