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12-30-2010 03:50 AM
straitup
Re: How to progress in the game, the next step?? Advice please??

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Originally Posted by rexman View Post
I think a big thing is to remember to work on both your strengths and weaknesses. Sometimes people get so caught up in fixing a bad backhand, that their forehand, which was a relative strength, is neutralized because they don't work on it. Unless you're amazing everywhere, it's good to have a shot that people fear a little bit. It forces their hand.

Another thing is to really strategize, not just hit the ball. Say someone has a weak forehand volley. How can you exploit that?

I've always found that my best tools are my variety and my movement. Sometimes you'll run across people who just can't handle a low skidding slice to their forehand. If you can make them hit that, you'll be golden even if they are the superior player in every other facet. I'm a two-hander but there have been matches where I've literally only hit backhand slices because it made my opponent uncomfortable.

Also, don't undervalue lobs or other defensive shots. While it's true that Roger Federer will put that overhead away 99% of the time, easy put aways are missed A LOT at the club level. Don't feel like you have to hit a brilliant passing shot down the line just because you are moved off the court. You're not a professional.

When going for your shots, margin is your friend. I've heard a lot of people give the 3x3 rule, meaning your shots should land three feet away from any lines. I don't necessarily subcribe to that, but really you don't need to be looking to hit clean winners unless the person is just a great defender. A lot of times making someone hit a forehand on the run is enough to get either a very weak reply or an error.

Obviously, the higher up you go, the less margin you can afford, and the better your defensive shots have to be, but remember that your opponents are amateurs just as you are.
Great advice...my backhand had always been my strength, but for a few years I've been trying to add power/accuracy to my serve and forehand. It hurt my backhand a bit, but then I slowed down a bit a few days ago and concentrated on the wrist snap, and it seems back to normal. I never want to hit a backhand as badly as I had the last few times before that though.
12-29-2010 05:52 PM
rexman
Re: How to progress in the game, the next step?? Advice please??

I think a big thing is to remember to work on both your strengths and weaknesses. Sometimes people get so caught up in fixing a bad backhand, that their forehand, which was a relative strength, is neutralized because they don't work on it. Unless you're amazing everywhere, it's good to have a shot that people fear a little bit. It forces their hand.

Another thing is to really strategize, not just hit the ball. Say someone has a weak forehand volley. How can you exploit that?

I've always found that my best tools are my variety and my movement. Sometimes you'll run across people who just can't handle a low skidding slice to their forehand. If you can make them hit that, you'll be golden even if they are the superior player in every other facet. I'm a two-hander but there have been matches where I've literally only hit backhand slices because it made my opponent uncomfortable.

Also, don't undervalue lobs or other defensive shots. While it's true that Roger Federer will put that overhead away 99% of the time, easy put aways are missed A LOT at the club level. Don't feel like you have to hit a brilliant passing shot down the line just because you are moved off the court. You're not a professional.

When going for your shots, margin is your friend. I've heard a lot of people give the 3x3 rule, meaning your shots should land three feet away from any lines. I don't necessarily subcribe to that, but really you don't need to be looking to hit clean winners unless the person is just a great defender. A lot of times making someone hit a forehand on the run is enough to get either a very weak reply or an error.

Obviously, the higher up you go, the less margin you can afford, and the better your defensive shots have to be, but remember that your opponents are amateurs just as you are.
12-08-2010 08:49 PM
Ilovetheblues_86
Re: How to progress in the game, the next step?? Advice please??

Yes, Matt.

Doubles players usually get only to play with flat shots.
Also, clay court is more suitable for top spin learning.
Just dont forget to not abstain totally from doubles training, you should keep your good level of volleys, keep working.
12-08-2010 02:21 PM
MATTY1980
Re: How to progress in the game, the next step?? Advice please??

Hello,

SaFed2005 you talk a lot of sense and thanks for your comment. Well I had my first hour and a half coaching session on Monday and I could not be happier with how it went, it feels like a weight has been lifted from my shoulders. Bascially after he showed me where my feet, legs, arms etc etc should be to hit a good topspin forehand things stared to happem for me and the same for the backhand.

I basically wasn't swinging from low to high and flicking my wrist at the end/up stroke this is a big reason I felt like I couldn't progress and also why a lot of shots hit the net, I guess cause I wasn't coming over the ball. Backhand bit better now also, I still make some mistakes but now I know why I make them mistakes. So I just got to practice this new forehand/backhand swing CONSTANTLY until I can do it without thinking, but at least I can see a light at the end of the tunnel now!!

Thanks all, Matt
12-05-2010 09:24 PM
SaFed2005
Re: How to progress in the game, the next step?? Advice please??

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Originally Posted by MATTY1980 View Post
Hello all,

Thank you for all your replies, there much appreciated.

I would say my level is intermediate and we we want to be more picky then a beginner intermediate. I think one thing I do is when hitting a hard forehand sometimes is lean back a bit and then hit it way up into the air and out!! I think sometimes it feels natural to lean back but am pretty sure this is not right.

I think it'll be good when I have coaching cause I might be videoed so will be able to see easily what I do when I hit the ball.
No matter what shot you hit always try to have forward momentum. It will help you gain not only a little more pace on your shots but it will give you a bit more control too. Footwork is key. Try to be in a good position when you hit shots.

Compare someone like Monfils to Federer. Both are fast but Federer is more efficient. As much as I like Monfils, half the time he is clowning around doing unnecessary running for no reason.

Most of the time if you are in a good position to hit the ball, you will hit it well. I would say 90% of the time you miss, you are hitting off balance or playing too risky a shot from an awkward position. Now if only I can take my own advice and stop playing stupid shots from stupid positions. lol
12-03-2010 11:02 PM
MATTY1980
Re: How to progress in the game, the next step?? Advice please??

Hi,

Thanks Dunlopkick service, when I'm on form my net play/volleys are pretty lethal and normally make a clean connection with the ball on these shots.

Matt
12-03-2010 01:44 PM
dunlopkickserve
Re: How to progress in the game, the next step?? Advice please??

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Originally Posted by MATTY1980 View Post
Hi,

Thanks Fleabitten, yes coaching is the way forward I feel. I don't suppose I can appreciate how valuable coaching is until I get out there on the court with someone telling me what to do.

I think another thing which might be holding me back is I mainly play doubles which is fine and the thing is if a lot turn up on a club session you can't really play singles and have people sitting out. I did a bit of singles last night (Mon night) and really enjoyed it shall have to try and do more singles as well as doubles. Sometimes in doubles you hardly touch the ball!!

Thanks, Matt
Doubles is a really easy way to develop the precision you need on groundstokes and volleys and that can easily translate into the singles game.
11-30-2010 11:21 AM
MATTY1980
Re: How to progress in the game, the next step?? Advice please??

Hi,

Thanks Fleabitten, yes coaching is the way forward I feel. I don't suppose I can appreciate how valuable coaching is until I get out there on the court with someone telling me what to do.

I think another thing which might be holding me back is I mainly play doubles which is fine and the thing is if a lot turn up on a club session you can't really play singles and have people sitting out. I did a bit of singles last night (Mon night) and really enjoyed it shall have to try and do more singles as well as doubles. Sometimes in doubles you hardly touch the ball!!

Thanks, Matt
11-30-2010 03:07 AM
fleabitten
Re: How to progress in the game, the next step?? Advice please??

Oh yeah - I didn't notice he was a Brit. I see he is a beginner-intermediate now. So, Matty, I think you need more time on the court. Getting professional instruction is the BEST thing you can do.
11-29-2010 04:30 PM
MATTY1980
Re: How to progress in the game, the next step?? Advice please??

Hello all,

Thank you for all your replies, there much appreciated.

I would say my level is intermediate and we we want to be more picky then a beginner intermediate. I think one thing I do is when hitting a hard forehand sometimes is lean back a bit and then hit it way up into the air and out!! I think sometimes it feels natural to lean back but am pretty sure this is not right.

I think it'll be good when I have coaching cause I might be videoed so will be able to see easily what I do when I hit the ball.
11-29-2010 04:11 PM
Ilovetheblues_86
Re: How to progress in the game, the next step?? Advice please??

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Originally Posted by MATTY1980 View Post
Hi all,

I've been playing tennis seriously and consistently for 2-3 years, I'm quite happy with how I've improved but now it doesn't matter how hard I try I can't seem to progress anymore and have hit some sort of talent wall, I seem to be making always the same mistakes, I play 2-4 times every week for 2-3 hours each time.

I've decided then to have as much coaching as possible, at least once a week and am confident this will unlock the door to the next level of skill!! I'm just curious if other people have felt like they've learnt as much as they can and then think about coaching? I take it coaching is the way forward if you hit a talent wall?

I do watch a lot of tennis vid lessons on youtube but am sure some people can appreciate that doesn't always work and isn't the same as an actual person telling you what to do.

Thanks, Matt
if you were playing real good you would know what you are missing to improve. Fitness is not only about getting tired or not, its essential to make you arrive on the ball in the right spot (movement) and hit it with all the power/direction you want. Then on the next point, the same. Fitness makes you bring your A game anytime you want.
Coaching is good in the beginning to make you learn all without vicious. Maybe you cant progress because you are using a wrong grip on the serve, or a mad movement when volleying/hitting a topspin forehand. Ever imagined?
Now your coach will prolly watch you and then what you are doing wrong and you will have a hard time perhaps to correct (if thats the case) but I agrre with you, take some coaching for at least 6 months and see if you can improve.
11-29-2010 03:44 PM
dunlopkickserve
Re: How to progress in the game, the next step?? Advice please??

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Originally Posted by fleabitten View Post
So, what level are you? I mean NTRP if you know it.
What are your weaknesses and how are you working on them in practice?
I thought the Brits don't use NTRP isn't that just an American thing?
11-29-2010 03:43 PM
dunlopkickserve
Re: How to progress in the game, the next step?? Advice please??

Quote:
Originally Posted by MATTY1980 View Post
Hi all,

I've been playing tennis seriously and consistently for 2-3 years, I'm quite happy with how I've improved but now it doesn't matter how hard I try I can't seem to progress anymore and have hit some sort of talent wall, I seem to be making always the same mistakes, I play 2-4 times every week for 2-3 hours each time.

I've decided then to have as much coaching as possible, at least once a week and am confident this will unlock the door to the next level of skill!! I'm just curious if other people have felt like they've learnt as much as they can and then think about coaching? I take it coaching is the way forward if you hit a talent wall?

I do watch a lot of tennis vid lessons on youtube but am sure some people can appreciate that doesn't always work and isn't the same as an actual person telling you what to do.

Thanks, Matt
Work on shot selection and variety. Its not always the person with the better strokes who wins. Maybe work on the Serve and Volley. I do it probably 1/3 of the time and it forces my opponent to hit safe returns which helps me when I choose not to come in. Work on certian plays, I hit different types of serves when I'm going for an ace and when i'm playing serve and volley.
11-29-2010 01:27 AM
fleabitten
Re: How to progress in the game, the next step?? Advice please??

So, what level are you? I mean NTRP if you know it.
What are your weaknesses and how are you working on them in practice?
11-27-2010 06:18 PM
MATTY1980
Re: How to progress in the game, the next step?? Advice please??

Hello,

I'm pretty sure it's not fitness, I never get tied when I run round and I play matches but on a friendly level at the mo. Sometimes I think I run too much and am over eager to hit the ball so hit it without thinking!

Matt
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