Both were born in 1987
Djokovic has 1 GS title and 4 MS titles
Murray has 0 GS title and 2 MS titles
Djokovic has 1 GS title and 4 MS titles
Murray has 0 GS title and 2 MS titles
Murray and Djokovic have been the 2 big guys after Nadal and Federer for the past 2/3 years.
Murray has the better backhand, the better first serve, the better movement, the better volleys and much better slice, lobs and tactics.
Djokovic only has one thing better than Murray: the second serve.
But what about the forehand?
Djokovic's can break down badly and he shanks it a lot.
Murray's is very consistent, has a lot of spin and can gets very deep and can get some sting on it too.
In my opinion, Murray's forehand is much better, for these reasons:
1. Much more consistent. He never goes into a faze where he just shanks it all the time, which Djokovic does from time to time.
2. It gets deeper more often and more spin is on it, which is harder to control for the opponent, while Djokovic's is usually bigger but doesn't go very deep.
3. Murray's pass on that side is phenomenal, Djokovic's isn't.
So what do you think?
Who has the better forehand?
Murray or Djokovic?
As I said above, I think Murray's forehand is better than Djokovic's, but what do you think?
Discuss......
Nole's. Not really close.
Djokovic and its not even close
Really?Djokovic and it's not even close.
Djokovic's can be big, yes, but it can also be extremely rubbish and go into games where he just shanks it or hits it into the net.I can't even explain how wrong you are. about the step1, 2, and 3.
1. Djokovic has one of the best forehands for a typical base game. He can hit it left or right at command. It's not as accurate as Murray's forehand (arguably the most accurate on tour), but it's enough for Djokovic to break down his opponents weak forehands and take them out in a few small rallies.
As I said, Murray's goes deeper more often. Djokovic's is obviously much better, but power isn't everything. When it comes to tactics, consistency and reliability then Murray's is better. Much more consistent, much more spin, can get some power on it, better slice, better depth (most of the time) and much moer accurate.2. Bigger but not deeper?? This is ridiculously wrong. Djokovic forehand has some weight on it. But it's known to be arguably the DEEPEST forehand on the tour. I suggest you watch Djokovic vs Federer semifinal at the U.S. Open 2008, Federer had to literally bend on his knees to whip some forehands back into play. Those forehands by Djokovic are ridiculously massive. He can hit the deep ends of the line. Why do you think it is that Federer gets so frustrated when he's about to play Djokovic at the slams?? It's because of this reason, if Federer's footwork is off JUST SLIGHTLY, he won't be able to bring back Nole's attack. It's a pain in the ass to play him. Nadal also has problems on hard courts in the past when he faced Djokovic for similar reasons, his DEEP forehands would throw these top tier players all over the place. Especially when he hits it all the way to the left or right.
Murray's pass is BY FAR better than Djokovic's.3. Haven't paid too much attention on the "pass" so I can't comment.
Murray's forehand isn't the only reason he gets defeated by those players. He just wasn't playing well against them, and they were playing well. It had nothing to do with the forehand.But if we averaged out the utility of their forehands, I would definitely purchase a Djokovic forehand over Murray's any time of the year. Murray's accuracy is not enough to allow him to escape in all situations against the likes of power players like Gonzalez, Federer, Soderling, Berdych, Tsonga, Roddick (preferably when he's on), Cilic, Del Potro etc. Although he did defeat Del Potro at the U.S. Open, and that's because Del Potro's skill level wasn't as good as Murray's yet. Djokovic will probably join this list if he faces Murray at a slam.
But almost all the players I mentioned above crushed him with power games at the slams. Murray's accurate forehand works on lower level ranked players, and 1 dimensional players. But against players with massive forehands, he'll have to come with a lot of accuracy and a ridiculously strong defense to survive at the slams.
Murray got almost 3/4 of his rankings points from 3 tournaments. Djokovic has played tonnes of tournaments, much more than Murray, and he's not very far infront of him. Only 200/300 points.murray is better than djokovic according to OP, but still murray is 5th and Djokovic is 3rd
What does this have to do woth my mental health?looool...are you serious man, i'm starting to be really concerned about your mental health..pls look at this picture above
No, Murray's of overall is more consistent, accurate and reliable.Blindovic by a mile.
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Federer's Mate was right.Seriously, MTF retardation had reached new lows. First Federer's_Mug (see signature) then this kidiot.
Murray's forehand, at its best, is a great weapon. It has accuracy, reliability and POWER on it.Djokovic's forehand is actually a great shot when it's on. Murray's forehand, even at its best, is mediocre.
Djokovic can't win slams with just his forehandDjokovic can win slams with his forehand.
That's the only difference that matters, and it's huge.
What a fucking ridiculous thread.
yeah summed it up perfectly one thing i would add is that djokovic can hit his forehand consistently harder than murray he can hit clean winners mid rally which murray rarely ever doesDjokovic has a better rally forehand; Murray has a better forehand pass and forehand return.
what a nice kitty!
:lol: Blindovic ... i expect this to spread like genital warts at a brothel...Blindovic by a mile.
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Well done you've managed to miss when presented with an open goal to slag Murray off.Seriously, MTF retardation had reached new lows. First Federer's_Mug (see signature) then this kidiot.
On a completely unrelated note, who do you guys think has a better serve: Roddick or Davydenko?
Yes - consistent aggression is what sets them apart. There's a reason why Murray plays best as a counterpuncher.The Matador said:yeah summed it up perfectly one thing i would add is that djokovic can hit his forehand consistently harder than murray he can hit clean winners mid rally which murray rarely ever does
I think Murray has a more reliable forehand return than Djokovic - mainly because of backswing and differences in grip (Djokovic has a full backswing and a western forehand grip; Murray uses an abbreviated backswing + semiwestern). You often see players targeting Novak's forehand when serving down break points, etc.IS this a joke? Murray's loopy forehand is probably his weakest weapon. Djokovic's, especially on return is one of the tour's best. Compare their backhand's and it will be a totally different story.
Murray's forehand is on a par with Gasquet's as to how ineffective that particular shot is. Novak's forehand is on a different planet overall compared to Murray and when it's on it's one of the best in the game.
Yes Murray's got a good forehand pass, but he only ever goes cross-court so it's extremely predictable all be it effective most of the time. It still baffles me when players come to the net on Murray's forehand and cover down the line! Players still play to Murray's backhand too often for me and if you look at the matches when Murray's lost more often than not it's because the majority of the match has been played to his forehand, the most recent example of this was Monfils in Paris. He got his tactics spot on.
People always say Murray hasn't won a slam yet is because he's too defensive, but it's his lack of weight on the forehand side that constantly lets him down in a game where every mother and her dog has a big forehand.