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05-29-2016 06:29 AM
atennisfan
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by scoutreporter View Post
Do you guys believe in silent bans?
Cilic had silent ban in 2013.
05-29-2016 12:37 AM
Jon Snow
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by -Evita- View Post
Ernests Gulbis on doping in tennis:



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/sp...-misdeeds.html
Got some new respect for Captain Gulbis.
05-29-2016 12:33 AM
scoutreporter
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

Do you guys believe in silent bans?
05-28-2016 11:22 PM
mugahi
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

Dope testing is causing too many injuries.
05-28-2016 06:00 PM
Chris Kuerten
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by -Evita- View Post
Ernests Gulbis on doping in tennis:



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/sp...-misdeeds.html
Just goes to show how deep the omerta goes when it comes to doping, even a normally outspoken and insightful guy like Gulbis resorts to spouting inane nonsense. Not even the top players take such an extreme stance
05-28-2016 09:09 AM
atennisfan
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by -Evita- View Post
Ernests Gulbis on doping in tennis:



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/sp...-misdeeds.html
I thought Gulbis was stupid already, but this just confirmed I underestimated the level of his stupidity.
05-28-2016 09:00 AM
-Evita-
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by Myrre View Post
For someone who had Canas as trainer this statement is hardly surprising.
Are you saying he's doping? Or that he's lying about thinking that others aren't doping?
05-28-2016 08:57 AM
Sunflowerseed
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by philosophicalarf View Post
The difference presumably is that Sharapova admitted she took it after 1/Jan. Other athletes are claiming they stopped taking it months before and are being allowed some leeway as a result.
The leeway is presumably that they can claim that they stopped taking it before the ban.

Of course, it begs the question, why did they no longer need it? Have they found a replacement heart medication? Or are they admitting they took it for a legal, if morally dubious advantage?

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Originally Posted by Method Man View Post
That 1 mg thing is BS. Povetkin tested negative for Meldonium 3 times in early April then tested positive for less than 1 mg in late April (according to his promoter). You can probably get the effects you want just from taking the tiniest amount.
That sounds dodgy. If the drug is banned on 1st January, you might be able to claim that it's taken longer to leave your system than expected, but if it's not in your system, then the concentration appears to increase, what happened? Either they took more after the ban, or there is a problem with the testing. If the 'negative' tests were simply below the limit of detection for those labs?
05-28-2016 08:55 AM
Myrre
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by -Evita- View Post
Ernests Gulbis on doping in tennis:



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/sp...-misdeeds.html
For someone who had Canas as trainer this statement is hardly surprising.
05-28-2016 08:47 AM
-Evita-
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

Ernests Gulbis on doping in tennis:

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To be honest, I think tennis is really clean. It’s my honest opinion. I know, myself, how I felt when I was playing well. It seems to most of the players, even, that it’s impossible to play day after day: five sets, five sets, five sets. But when you’re fit, when you did your work, you are physically able. You are physically so strong that you’re able to continue in crazy circumstances. Like Novak and Rafa, or Stan, in Australia when they play these marathon matches. People are able to do it. It’s not necessary that if somebody did his work and somebody practiced more than you, you have to go and accuse somebody that they cheated. They just did it better. This is my opinion; I honestly don’t think that somebody in tennis cheats with this.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/sp...-misdeeds.html
05-19-2016 12:01 PM
Method Man
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Originally Posted by Chris Kuerten View Post
Apparently it had to do with the amount she tested positive for, which was less than 1 mg. So yeah, that falls under the leeway. Then again, only Russian sources thusfar.
That 1 mg thing is BS. Povetkin tested negative for Meldonium 3 times in early April then tested positive for less than 1 mg in late April (according to his promoter). You can probably get the effects you want just from taking the tiniest amount.
05-19-2016 11:50 AM
Chris Kuerten
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

Apparently it had to do with the amount she tested positive for, which was less than 1 mg. So yeah, that falls under the leeway. Then again, only Russian sources thusfar.
05-19-2016 10:49 AM
philosophicalarf
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

The difference presumably is that Sharapova admitted she took it after 1/Jan. Other athletes are claiming they stopped taking it months before and are being allowed some leeway as a result.
05-19-2016 02:20 AM
Chris Kuerten
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

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Unlike Sharapova Lepchenko for meldonium already pardoned

Anatoly Glebov, a physiotherapist who worked for many years in the team of Maria Sharapova, in an interview with "SE" expressed surprise why the people responsible for the medical support of one of the best tennis players in the world, did not take the blame. Russian has been suspended from competition for using meldonium. According to unofficial information, review "Sharapova business" could take place tomorrow (18 May).

- When the whole story of Masha turned round, I spoke with her father Yuri - Glebov said. - I said: "Why have you admitted that taking meldonium ten years ?!" Answer right, he did not; apparently afraid of wiretapping phone. But made it clear that the case involved a very serious people. And they will do anything to discourage it.

I do not know, not sure ... I do not really understand why people who are in the team Sharapova responsible for medical support, did not take the blame. Do not stood up and did not say it was my fault, I proshlyapil. Yes, it would not be left unattended, would surely have followed certain sanctions. But Masha would be taken out of the blow. Everyone knows that the star of this level can not keep track of all mail that comes to her address. This should do the staff.

I also have another question. At about the same time as Masha, meldonium was found in the body of an American tennis player originally from the former Soviet Union - Varvara Lepchenko. I talked with her dad, too, I know about it from his lips. However, the ITF has become not to make this story public. Moreover, Lepchenko already amnestied and continued his speech. If it's another drug concentration - then fine. But even in this case, the position and procedure of the International Tennis Federation should be the same.
https://www.sport-express.ru/tennis/wta/news/1001074/

05-17-2016 01:04 PM
philosophicalarf
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published)

No doubt the ITF will be rushing to test old tennis samples.

*silence*

*bail of hay rolls by*
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