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05-07-2009 05:37 AM
Ilovetheblues_86
Re: Mug Tennis

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kip View Post
Began playing my 2nd match of the year today. Got suspended til' tomorrow on the account of time.
It was getting late. We just finished the first set when it got called.

I felt really good today. Used a newer racquet with a better grip. I ran out to a 3-0 lead. My serve was off but my grounstrokes were on fire. My forehand was great and my backhand was much better than it was in my last match. I was excited by a sizzling fh cc winner, but I didn't let it show. Now this is where I usually begin to fall apart. Serving at 3-1 for a 4-1 lead I cruised out to a 40-0 lead and then lost 4 straight points. I saved that bp plus another before holding.
Down those bp's I was just thinking about what you said. However, I got broke my next service game, but fortunately I was able to break back to be able to serve for the set at 5-3. So, what happened? Just like two service games ago! Up 40-0 andd then down bp losing 4 points in a row. I just kept telling myself to not think about winning the set but just focusing on getting my 1st serve in. I fought off another bp before closing it out to win the 1st set 6-3!

Now, I get to sit overnight and think, but I'll try and just distract myself and just approach tomorrow as if I am not up a set and it's just the beginning. Hopefully!
Congrats to you actually I am usually a choker too because I play a high risk tennis and sometimes I have 5-2, or 5-4 and I lose cause I try to play more safely and itīs just not the way it works to me, so the best thing to do to me that works is not to push the game and play almost every game equally, always trying the best of effort without necessarily pushing, but playing offensive tennis. This works a lot against pushers.
However when I started playing like 12 years ago I used to do the opposite, I was more like a pusher, trying to put first serve in and passing the ball. This works great against guys who makes many mistakes. So, find your strategy that fits your game style, but never think about the score, I think about playing the game, making it work, because we are not there to finish it quickly, but to enjoy the time and to try to get better.
05-07-2009 01:11 AM
Kip
Re: Mug Tennis

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilovetheblues_86 View Post
Try to improve yourself so you have 5-1 and a room for one choke per set?
Actually I donīt know. Try to play like its not your serving for set game, and try to play for the good of the sport, not to win, it helps you win when you donīt think about winning, only about playing a good game.
Began playing my 2nd match of the year today. Got suspended til' tomorrow on the account of time.
It was getting late. We just finished the first set when it got called.

I felt really good today. Used a newer racquet with a better grip. I ran out to a 3-0 lead. My serve was off but my grounstrokes were on fire. My forehand was great and my backhand was much better than it was in my last match. I was excited by a sizzling fh cc winner, but I didn't let it show. Now this is where I usually begin to fall apart. Serving at 3-1 for a 4-1 lead I cruised out to a 40-0 lead and then lost 4 straight points. I saved that bp plus another before holding.
Down those bp's I was just thinking about what you said. However, I got broke my next service game, but fortunately I was able to break back to be able to serve for the set at 5-3. So, what happened? Just like two service games ago! Up 40-0 andd then down bp losing 4 points in a row. I just kept telling myself to not think about winning the set but just focusing on getting my 1st serve in. I fought off another bp before closing it out to win the 1st set 6-3!

Now, I get to sit overnight and think, but I'll try and just distract myself and just approach tomorrow as if I am not up a set and it's just the beginning. Hopefully!
05-04-2009 02:43 AM
SaFed2005
Re: Mug Tennis

I have been playing some serious mug tennis lately. I should be resting my tennis elbow but I just can't help myself with all this good weather. I can't serve well or hit forehands well with the current state of my elbow. I am pretty much playing through pain like an idiot for the love of the game instead of letting it rest and heal up. My forehand has turned into a pushed slice since it hurts to take full swings. My bh is still good as it doesn't bother me to hit 2 handed bhs. My serve is terrible in terms of pace but i can still place it fairly well. I have been pushing my way to a lot of wins but it doesn't really feel like I won. The only thing that's fun about pushing is the look on your opponents face when you run every single ball down until they miss. Seeing their frustration makes me feel really evil.
05-04-2009 02:38 AM
SaFed2005
Re: Mug Tennis

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilovetheblues_86 View Post
Try to improve yourself so you have 5-1 and a room for one choke per set?
Actually I donīt know. Try to play like its not your serving for set game, and try to play for the good of the sport, not to win, it helps you win when you donīt think about winning, only about playing a good game.
Yep just don't think about winning or losing. Think about the point and nothing else. Try to play your best every point no matter what the score. Learn from Nadal.
04-30-2009 11:42 PM
adee-gee
Re: Mug Tennis

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilovetheblues_86 View Post
If they use a lot of topspin why donīt you try to hit the ball when is high tring to punch it very fast down? Also try to hit more shorts but with lots of angle balls, try to move the topspin player to the front, bring him to the net and go to the net, thatīs the best plan that I see If your are losing from behind, make the game less predictable and go to the net.
I know this is the best idea, but it's hard for me to put into practice. Because I don't generate that much power myself, I'm opening myself up if I step in and take it on the rise, I've pretty much gotta hit a winner or I'm in trouble. For some reason I feel much more comfortable backing off.

I actually read the game pretty well, if I'm watching someone else's match I'd be able to analyse/advice them very well what's happening. But I don't think much when I'm playing until after the match
Quote:
Originally Posted by TidusZidane View Post
Sounds like I'd be your worst nightmare at the moment

Like the poster above says the best way to deal with heavy topspin is to take the ball on the rise. Alternatively you can stand further back and take a big swing which it sounds like you're doing, but it's very difficult to manouver your opponent out of position like that.

Best of luck with your tournament though. Just go for broke, and you never know, you could pull a few shocks, it definitely sounds like you could ruffle a few feathers with your attacking game
more chance of Federer winning RG . I'll be happy just to win a few games.

I've just managed to arrange a hit with this guy ---> http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/3...earch=harfield it could be brutal, but at least it gives me some idea of what I'm up against (except even higher level probably). I'll be chuffed if I can take a game off him
04-30-2009 12:04 PM
Bernard Black
Re: Mug Tennis

Quote:
Originally Posted by adee-gee View Post
Nice bump, just in time for an update from me

So I've started playing some higher level tournaments in preparation for the biggest one of my life I've got in July (about 10,000 times above my level).

Anyway, I've always thought of myself as quite an aggressive player, but I'm starting to come up against guys who hit with loads of topspin and just don't make errors. I've started to realise I've relied a lot in the past on my opponents making unforced errors. If someone plays a match against me and hits 0 winners but only 10 or so unforced errors they're 99.9% going to beat me. My problem is I'm finding it impossible to come up with a gameplan - I'm not consistent or patient enough to play them at their own game, and I find it impossible to hit winners on a regular basis, I'm not really good enough and will always. It makes it evenmore unlikely when their deep topspin shots are pushing me well behind the baseline. So I usually end up somewhere between the 2, and then berate myself afterwards for not sticking to one of the gameplans :retard:
Sounds like I'd be your worst nightmare at the moment

Like the poster above says the best way to deal with heavy topspin is to take the ball on the rise. Alternatively you can stand further back and take a big swing which it sounds like you're doing, but it's very difficult to manouver your opponent out of position like that.

Best of luck with your tournament though. Just go for broke, and you never know, you could pull a few shocks, it definitely sounds like you could ruffle a few feathers with your attacking game
04-30-2009 01:58 AM
Ilovetheblues_86
Re: Mug Tennis

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kip View Post
Lost my 1st match of the year.
7-6(5) 7-5

I'm in a funky position. On one hand my improvement from my serve to my groundstrokes are quite noticeable and I couldn't be happier. Yet, on the other hand my mental game still needs work. I was up 4-2 in the 1st set, as well as 5-2 in the tb and 5-2 in the 2nd serving for the set at 5-3. It happens so often that I get a lead and then everything starts to fall to pieces. I'm not too disappointed with the first set because we both played very well. However, serving for the 2nd set at 5-3 my serve abandoned me. I couldn't hit a 1st serve to save my life!

Anyone have tips and things they do to focus when having a lead or closing out a set?
Try to improve yourself so you have 5-1 and a room for one choke per set?
Actually I donīt know. Try to play like its not your serving for set game, and try to play for the good of the sport, not to win, it helps you win when you donīt think about winning, only about playing a good game.
04-30-2009 01:56 AM
Ilovetheblues_86
Re: Mug Tennis

Quote:
Originally Posted by adee-gee View Post
Nice bump, just in time for an update from me

So I've started playing some higher level tournaments in preparation for the biggest one of my life I've got in July (about 10,000 times above my level).

Anyway, I've always thought of myself as quite an aggressive player, but I'm starting to come up against guys who hit with loads of topspin and just don't make errors. I've started to realise I've relied a lot in the past on my opponents making unforced errors. If someone plays a match against me and hits 0 winners but only 10 or so unforced errors they're 99.9% going to beat me. My problem is I'm finding it impossible to come up with a gameplan - I'm not consistent or patient enough to play them at their own game, and I find it impossible to hit winners on a regular basis, I'm not really good enough and will always. It makes it evenmore unlikely when their deep topspin shots are pushing me well behind the baseline. So I usually end up somewhere between the 2, and then berate myself afterwards for not sticking to one of the gameplans :retard:
If they use a lot of topspin why donīt you try to hit the ball when is high tring to punch it very fast down? Also try to hit more shorts but with lots of angle balls, try to move the topspin player to the front, bring him to the net and go to the net, thatīs the best plan that I see If your are losing from behind, make the game less predictable and go to the net.
04-30-2009 01:37 AM
El Legenda
Re: Mug Tennis

I lost to my pushing brother 6-7 4-6 today...I served for the first at *5-4 and *6-5 in the TB i was down **1-6 and lost 12-14 he pushes all day with a good serve...i go for everything with a big serve...
04-30-2009 12:30 AM
adee-gee
Re: Mug Tennis

Nice bump, just in time for an update from me

So I've started playing some higher level tournaments in preparation for the biggest one of my life I've got in July (about 10,000 times above my level).

Anyway, I've always thought of myself as quite an aggressive player, but I'm starting to come up against guys who hit with loads of topspin and just don't make errors. I've started to realise I've relied a lot in the past on my opponents making unforced errors. If someone plays a match against me and hits 0 winners but only 10 or so unforced errors they're 99.9% going to beat me. My problem is I'm finding it impossible to come up with a gameplan - I'm not consistent or patient enough to play them at their own game, and I find it impossible to hit winners on a regular basis, I'm not really good enough and will always. It makes it evenmore unlikely when their deep topspin shots are pushing me well behind the baseline. So I usually end up somewhere between the 2, and then berate myself afterwards for not sticking to one of the gameplans :retard:
04-29-2009 09:44 PM
Kip
Re: Mug Tennis

Lost my 1st match of the year.
7-6(5) 7-5

I'm in a funky position. On one hand my improvement from my serve to my groundstrokes are quite noticeable and I couldn't be happier. Yet, on the other hand my mental game still needs work. I was up 4-2 in the 1st set, as well as 5-2 in the tb and 5-2 in the 2nd serving for the set at 5-3. It happens so often that I get a lead and then everything starts to fall to pieces. I'm not too disappointed with the first set because we both played very well. However, serving for the 2nd set at 5-3 my serve abandoned me. I couldn't hit a 1st serve to save my life!

Anyone have tips and things they do to focus when having a lead or closing out a set?
04-29-2009 07:51 AM
Machiavelli
Re: Mug Tennis

Quote:
Originally Posted by TidusZidane View Post
don't succumb to brainlessly bashing the ball at every opportunity...
Growing up on clay, i doubt you can develop yourself into a ballbasher, i was surprised with my fh, i was hitting it smoothly, i punished weak 2nd serves and short balls; if i just had the time to work on my bh, it is way to defensive, my slice is excellent, stays low and i can hit it deep but my one-hander is way too of and on, thats the result of too much sliceing and dropshoting (my greatest weapon apart from the serve) over the years.......
04-29-2009 12:04 AM
Bernard Black
Re: Mug Tennis

Quote:
Originally Posted by Machiavelli View Post
My first league match on clay outdoors, a loss in the end, but I wasn't the favourite to win it anyway; I played against an in-form opponent (who has been hitting the courts every single day), with some good tactics and superb shot selection i was up *4-2 in the 1st set, but he stepped it up then, his bh down the line started to work like a swiss clock, he had me all over the court, my service game was not where it should be and there was no comin back, a 4/6,2/6 defeat; a promising 1st set nevertheless, hope to built on that...
Don't worry, definitely doesn't class as mug tennis I mean, if the guy stepped up his game that much then there's not much you can do about it really, so don't beat yourself up too much over it. Sounds like you played a great thinking game in that first set and that's the great way to play tennis, don't succumb to brainlessly bashing the ball at every opportunity...
04-29-2009 12:01 AM
Bernard Black
Re: Mug Tennis

Time for an update.

The new season has been going well so far. I've switched from a club with mostly fast synthetic grass courts to one with slow hard, so it's been an interesting transition period, but so far my game is really suiting the courts.

I've had to add much more kick to my serve because the courts really don't take my slice serve well, which is annoying, because I feel my serve is so much more predictable now but at least I'm getting a high percentage in. I'm also living and dying by the topspin forehand, it's too risky hitting flat often on these slow courts and they take topspin pretty well but I reckon my moonballing tactics would annoy a phew around here *ahem* GlennMirnyi I think the main change in my game though has been how steady my rally backhand has become, I really feel I can hold my own against the big hitters in backhand to backhand rallies now, when before I'd inevitably have to hit the defensive slice and lose the initiative so it's pleasing progress. Saying all this though, these slow courts have really brought back the counterpunching tactics of my junior days and I rarely approach the net anymore so I don't know if that's a good thing...

Overall, mug factor relatively low for now (apart from shanking a few backhands now and then), but watch this space...
04-28-2009 09:58 AM
Machiavelli
Re: Mug Tennis

My first league match on clay outdoors, a loss in the end, but I wasn't the favourite to win it anyway; I played against an in-form opponent (who has been hitting the courts every single day), with some good tactics and superb shot selection i was up *4-2 in the 1st set, but he stepped it up then, his bh down the line started to work like a swiss clock, he had me all over the court, my service game was not where it should be and there was no comin back, a 4/6,2/6 defeat; a promising 1st set nevertheless, hope to built on that...
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