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05-11-2016 08:52 AM
azza
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

Grothy desperate to stay in top 100 for the wimbledon MD into the QF in Seoul, 20 valuable ranking points so far
05-10-2016 09:18 AM
Ausie
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

Grothy wins his opening match in Seoul over Krueger from USA 4-6 6-3 6-2. Well done Sam!
05-05-2016 09:08 AM
scotthongkong
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

Brydan Klein....gotta love him.....not. What a wonderful day for Australian tennis when he defected to the Union Jack banner. I will never forget the 'kaffir' episode in the UK with Raven Klaasen.
05-04-2016 10:58 PM
Daniel.
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

This must have been the round robin days. I actually remember that Philippoussis/Klein incident lol.
05-04-2016 10:15 PM
RustyOz
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

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Originally Posted by Dmitry Verdasco View Post
WC Playoff maybe?
Yes it was the AO Wildcard Play-off:
From Wikipedia:

"2008
Philippoussis acquired a protected ranking of no. 119 in the world and was allowed to use that ranking for entry into eight tournaments. Tennis Australia, not being happy with his lack of match play and unwillingness to play the Australian Open wildcard playoff, told him that he would not be given any special treatment and would have to earn his wildcard. This forced him to use one of his protected ranking tournament entries.
In his first match of the Australian Open Wildcard playoff, he was drawn against reigning Australian Open juniors champion Brydan Klein and had a fiery contest. After a remark from Klein, Philippoussis was quoted as saying, "You say that to me again and you're in trouble; you're not playing juniors any more." He came out the victor in straight sets, 6–3, 7–5, and thus began his comeback in good form. Philippoussis then lost his second match to Samuel Groth, 4-6, 3-6, but due to other players' injuries, he advanced to the quarterfinals, where he was to play Rameez Junaid. However, due to another knee injury requiring surgery, Philippoussis was unable to play.
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05-04-2016 08:30 AM
Dmitry Verdasco
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

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Originally Posted by Manu_ser View Post
Funny that this thread started in 2007 mentions a win over Philippoussis while they never played against each other in an official match.
WC Playoff maybe?
05-03-2016 10:15 PM
Kateoz
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

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Originally Posted by RustyOz View Post
Not a good result. Pretty close score-line.

What has happened to his "super coach" that was attributed to his sharp rise in ranking/ability?

The coach gets all the accolades on the way up, the player cops the blame on the way down...
Shares him with Kokk now. Perhaps the focus has shifted...

But I'm really not sure you can blame the coach for this level of poor play. Coach helped him get from a challenger level game to one competitive at tour level and looking as if he could potentially be top 50. Now he's back to where he was 2-3 years ago.

Two possibilities - just hasn't recovered from his foot surgery (and at this point not going to); and/or past physical peak. Despite the ageing top pack most players do start declining sharply from around 27-28. I though Sam might play on a bit longer given time out from the game (how long you play seems to be a function of number of matches played for most people) plus dependence of his game on serve rather than other elements, but...
05-03-2016 10:12 PM
Manu_ser
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

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Originally Posted by bennydee619 View Post
I heared about his big win against Mark Philippoussis and thought he deserves his own thread. So here it is.
Funny that this thread started in 2007 mentions a win over Philippoussis while they never played against each other in an official match.
05-03-2016 10:00 PM
RustyOz
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

Not a good result. Pretty close score-line.

What has happened to his "super coach" that was attributed to his sharp rise in ranking/ability?

The coach gets all the accolades on the way up, the player cops the blame on the way down...
05-03-2016 01:16 PM
Sam21
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

Lost 6-7(3) 7-6(4) 7-5 to local wildcard Ji Sung Nam in Busan. He's really lost his edge in tiebreaks this year, today's match gives him a W/L ratio of 2/10
03-31-2016 09:14 PM
Kateoz
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

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Originally Posted by azza View Post
Every year an aussie has a massive fail

2014 Ebden
2015 Matosevic
2016 Groth
It's called getting old (in tennis years).

The hard reality is that despite the longevity of some of the current top ten, the people who go on forever like Hewitt and Federer are the extreme exceptions not the norm (and of course Hewitt declined sharply from the mid 2000s as we all know) - most players start declining at around 26-27, and that is more likely to happen faster for journeymen compared to top players.

There are for example currently 238 players with ranking points born in 1995 (Nick Kyrgios' group).

There are 81 born in 1987 (Ebden and Groth year).

There are only 52 born in 1985 (Matosevic's year).

That doesn't explain Duckworth of course!
03-31-2016 07:53 PM
scotthongkong
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

and James Duckworth is heading southwards with a rocket this year as well. He seems incapable of staying fresh and healthy for any length of time. Hopefully Sam cuts out all the Newcombe medal, Kia ad hype and gets some results on the board.
03-31-2016 10:00 AM
azza
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

Every year an aussie has a massive fail

2014 Ebden
2015 Matosevic
2016 Groth
03-31-2016 07:35 AM
Arsenalex
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

This thread should be renamed: Sam Groth, the Soon-To-Be Forgotten Australian.
03-31-2016 07:13 AM
Kateoz
Re: Samuel Groth: The Forgotten Australian

And goes down in first round of Leon challenger to Ghem...gah.
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