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Yesterday 01:36 PM
ibreak4coffee
Re: Davis Cup

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Originally Posted by Snowwy View Post
If we send a good team, than this is probably actually a good matchup for us. Milos is the best player between both teams on clay and should win two matches. That said, who knows if Milos shows up. Usually he does when he is healthy so we can hope for that.
I'm really hoping he'll show given how close the tie is to Montenegro
Yesterday 12:53 PM
Snowwy
Re: Davis Cup

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Originally Posted by ibreak4coffee View Post
Outdoor in February won't happen in Croatia - its definitely going to be indoor clay, probably in Zagreb, maybe Split.
If we send a good team, than this is probably actually a good matchup for us. Milos is the best player between both teams on clay and should win two matches. That said, who knows if Milos shows up. Usually he does when he is healthy so we can hope for that.
Yesterday 01:27 AM
ibreak4coffee
Re: Davis Cup

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Originally Posted by 156mphserve View Post
It's a decent draw IMO. Too bad we lost the drawing of lots as it would have been much better at home. Not sure the odds of Karlovic showing up are too great, he's played 1 tie since 2012 and that was last years final. It'll be Cilic and Coric more than likely, but even Cilic hasn't showed up everytime, this past years round 1 for example.

I expect they'll pick clay to play on if they can get a clay surface in February. I presume they would lay one indoors like has been done in the past by some teams. Their last 3 homes ties have been on hard but against Spain, Argentina and France which are great clay teams. France is good on both. When they played USA and Great Britain at home last they went on clay. Granted not in February. Their last February/March home clay tie was in 1994. If they can play on clay they should against a Raonic, Denis and Vasek team.

Assuming they do Cilic/Raonic is a toss up, Doubles may be a toss up, Denis/Coric could be a toss up depending on how Denis plays on clay. His run on clay in challengers this past year was quite subpar. Cilic should beat Denis, Raonic should beat Coric. If someone doesn't show then all bets are off. Felix playing #2 instead of Denis would be interesting if it were on clay, but I'd have to see a lot of progression in the next half year from Felix first IMO, even if he's better on clay he's not at this level yet. I think if everyone shows up it could be a very 50/50 tie.

The round 2 draw was also very good for us. Swiss is Fed/Stan doesn't show or Kazakhstan. Another draw of lots on both, anyone know who won that? It's the 1 draw for both, so we're either guaranteed home against both or away.
Outdoor in February won't happen in Croatia - its definitely going to be indoor clay, probably in Zagreb, maybe Split.
09-20-2017 09:16 PM
156mphserve
Re: Davis Cup

Couldn't find the picture of the draw with lots stars in them to show who had them in future round but found it in the video of the draw. We are home in round 2 if we beat Croatia. We are also home in round 3 via drawing of lots against USA or Hungary, or the fact we last played Serbia in Serbia, and Belgium in Belgium. We lose the drawing of lots for the final so the only home draws would be France or the Netherlands given we played them away last time.

09-20-2017 09:14 PM
Roxitova
Re: Davis Cup

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Originally Posted by Tuggy View Post
We drew Croatia (choice of ground by lot, went to Croatia).

Not a great draw. They have Cilic and not much else but it's away. Hopefully our team will be fully healthy.
I wouldn't call Coric "not much else"
09-20-2017 09:02 PM
156mphserve
Re: Davis Cup

It's a decent draw IMO. Too bad we lost the drawing of lots as it would have been much better at home. Not sure the odds of Karlovic showing up are too great, he's played 1 tie since 2012 and that was last years final. It'll be Cilic and Coric more than likely, but even Cilic hasn't showed up everytime, this past years round 1 for example.

I expect they'll pick clay to play on if they can get a clay surface in February. I presume they would lay one indoors like has been done in the past by some teams. Their last 3 homes ties have been on hard but against Spain, Argentina and France which are great clay teams. France is good on both. When they played USA and Great Britain at home last they went on clay. Granted not in February. Their last February/March home clay tie was in 1994. If they can play on clay they should against a Raonic, Denis and Vasek team.

Assuming they do Cilic/Raonic is a toss up, Doubles may be a toss up, Denis/Coric could be a toss up depending on how Denis plays on clay. His run on clay in challengers this past year was quite subpar. Cilic should beat Denis, Raonic should beat Coric. If someone doesn't show then all bets are off. Felix playing #2 instead of Denis would be interesting if it were on clay, but I'd have to see a lot of progression in the next half year from Felix first IMO, even if he's better on clay he's not at this level yet. I think if everyone shows up it could be a very 50/50 tie.

The round 2 draw was also very good for us. Swiss is Fed/Stan doesn't show or Kazakhstan. Another draw of lots on both, anyone know who won that? It's the 1 draw for both, so we're either guaranteed home against both or away.
09-20-2017 07:40 PM
ibreak4coffee
Re: Davis Cup

The fact Nestor and especially Raonic have roots near Croatia may influence them positively to play - I hope so.

Fact the tie is in February as well limits options on where to play, leveling the playing field a bit more for us I hope.
09-20-2017 07:00 PM
Brad1973 Croatia will want a good run in 2018 after having lost in the first round in 2017. Cilic seems pretty motivated to play Davis Cup; he just won three live matches against Columbia. I was expecting more from Coric, especially after he beat Sock in Davis Cup in 2016. He and Denis may be better in five months than they are now. Karlovic is on the decline; i expect Coric to be the second singles player. Canada has a strong team if Raonic shows up and plays well.

It would be nice to see everyone get behind Nestor in his last season.
09-20-2017 06:27 PM
Loosie
Re: Davis Cup

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Originally Posted by Tuggy View Post
If Cilic, Coric and Karlovic play it will be tough
It would be but I also think if we send Raonic, Shapovalov, Pospisil and Nestor we have a chance. As long as we win the doubles I think both Raonic and Shapovalov could beat Coric/Karlovic. Cilic would be a toss up for Raonic.

It's not easy, but if Cilic doesn't go our chances go up. But you of course they are no slouch as the went to the finals last year and were a set away from winning it all.
09-20-2017 04:04 PM
Tuggy
Re: Davis Cup

If Cilic, Coric and Karlovic play it will be tough
09-20-2017 03:15 PM
guichard
Re: Davis Cup

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Originally Posted by Allegro View Post
I am not sure, but I guess Croatia uses clay most often, like most Europe.
I checked, they chose hard the last 3 home ties
09-20-2017 03:09 PM
guichard
Re: Davis Cup

Good draw if everyone is healthy
09-20-2017 03:01 PM
Allegro
Re: Davis Cup

I am not sure, but I guess Croatia uses clay most often, like most Europe.
09-20-2017 02:43 PM
Loosie
Re: Davis Cup

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Originally Posted by Tuggy View Post
We drew Croatia (choice of ground by lot, went to Croatia).

Not a great draw. They have Cilic and not much else but it's away. Hopefully our team will be fully healthy.
It's not horrible, it could have been worse. With a healthy Raonic, and Shapovalov continuing the way he's been playing I say we have a good chance.

Should we win that we'd get the winner of Kazakhstan and Switzerland in the Quarters
09-20-2017 02:42 PM
Loosie
Re: Davis Cup

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Originally Posted by sdmartin View Post
I believe France and Belgium as 2017 finalists get choice of ground ... so we'd be away for those as well, wouldn't we?
Nope, we played them both away last time.
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