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01-13-2015 10:04 PM
Chilenaitor
Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams

any update? thanks!
07-09-2013 05:04 AM
Blarghman
Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams

An update for the first three events of 2013.

The top 4 seeds all made the semifinals in Australia; this was the 15th time overall, and 4th in Australia. It also marked back-to-back years that the top 4 seeds all advanced that far.

Roland Garros saw a #3 vs. #4 final, a fairly rare occurance in GSs. It was the 56th final without a top 2 seed, and the 23rd such RG final.

Wimbledon's 1 vs. 2 final was the 13th for the event, and the 40th overall. Just 6 of the top 16 seeds made the last 16, the lowest number in four years, since RG 2008. Still, it's a long way from the Wimbledon record, set in 2002, when just 2 of the top 16 survived to their seeding.
06-01-2013 06:49 AM
Kyle_Johansen
Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams

Quite amazing stuff, was a pleasure reading it.
12-30-2012 09:22 AM
Litotes
Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams

Thank you very much
12-29-2012 07:55 PM
Blarghman
Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams

Quote:
Originally Posted by Litotes View Post
Very interesting! Is there any hope of a 2012 update?
Thanks! I have updated things for 2012, and the end of 2011.

#1 v. #2 finals occured at Australia and at Roland Garros, both Djokovic v. Nadal, while the #3 v. #4 final at Wimbledon was the first since 2003 in London to not feature a top 2 seed.

All top 4 seeds made back-to-back semifinals, at 2011 USO and 2012 AO, in fact this occurred at 3 of the last 4 at that point, stretching to 2011 RG. Both were the first time that had happened.

The 2012 US Open saw the 7th time that 7 top 8 seeds made the quarterfinals, and the first for the USO, making it the last of the slams to reach that milestone.
12-26-2012 10:56 AM
Litotes
Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams

Very interesting! Is there any hope of a 2012 update?
06-08-2011 01:20 AM
Blarghman
Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams

This year's RG was the 12th time in the open era that the top 4 seeds all made the semifinals, and the first since 2006 RG.

Nothing else remarkable beyond that, with 5 of the top 8 in the quarters and 10 of the top 16 in round 4.
09-15-2009 11:00 PM
Blarghman
Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams

This year's USO tied the all-time record with 14 of the top 16 seeds making the R16, and broke the previous USO record of 13. Having 15 seeded players also tied that overall record, again breaking the previous USO record of 13.

This was also the 14th time that a tournament had all seeded quarterfinalists. 2009 is the first time that three of the four GS tournaments had all seeds in the quarters.
08-25-2009 12:54 AM
Blarghman
Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams

Quote:
Originally Posted by buzz View Post
Why is there no mention of how frequently the no1 seed won the tournament? (And in wich tournaments)
No real reason, I just hadn't thought of listing that.

In the 163 tournaments I've covered, 55 were won by the #1 seed.

13 AO (69, 77, 78, 79, 82, 90, 93, 94, 97, 00, 06, 07, 09)
11 RG (69, 71, 75, 78, 79, 80, 81, 86, 87, 92, 01)
13 USO (69, 74, 76, 77, 81, 84, 86, 87, 96, 04, 05, 06, 07)
18 W (68, 69, 72, 78, 79, 80, 84, 93, 94, 97, 98, 99, 00, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07)

Players who did it:
10 - Federer
9 - Sampras
8 - Borg
5 - Lendl, Laver
3 - Vilas, McEnroe
2 - Courier, Connors
1 - Kodes, Kuerten, Agassi, Kriek, Hewitt, Nadal, Smith, Gerulaitis

Some other little factoids I found while getting this data;

-The most successful #2s ever are Connors, Nadal and Federer, each with 4 GSs as #2, McEnroe, Lendl, Rosewall, Sampras and Agassi all have 3.

-Mats Wilander is the most successful #3 ever, winning 3 GSs as that seed.

- Only one player has one multiple Grand Slams at a seed lower than 3, Becker won twice as a #4.
08-24-2009 09:54 AM
buzz
Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams

Why is there no mention of how frequently the no1 seed won the tournament? (And in wich tournaments)
08-23-2009 01:48 PM
stebs
Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams

Nice thread. A lot of people are expecting the upcoming USO to have something like this after what happened in Montreal. Certainly the top 4 plus Roddick and JMDP are heavily favoured to reach the last 8.
08-20-2009 06:20 AM
Heners
Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams

really unlucky if you play a seeded player in the first few rounds of a grad slam or it might be your time to shine
07-06-2009 04:35 AM
Blarghman
Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams

In the end, Wimbledon was pretty dull from a seeding perspective, making no inroads on the leaderboards. However, I did find an embarrassing oversight in my database; the 2001 AO was totally ignored. This event had none of the top 4 seeds make the semifinals, expanding that list to 14 tournaments.
06-27-2009 07:50 PM
Blarghman
Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams

After two tournaments that saw 12 of the top 16 seeds through to the fourth round, this year's Wimbledon is quite a bit lower, only 7 top 16 seeds moved through. This is one more than last year's Wimby, and below average for all GSs.

The presence of 3 unseeded players (Hewitt, Ferrero and Sela) leaves this year's event one short of the Wimbledon record for seeds in the round of 16.
05-30-2009 11:02 PM
Blarghman
Re: Playing to seeds in Grand Slams

Based on a point that came up in a GM post, here's a similar look, but at all seeded players, rather than just the 'ideal' seeds. Obviously, these lists are heavily dependent on the 32 seed change, with recent years tending to feature more prominently.

Final

Of the eligible GS finals I am considering, just 29 had an unseeded player in the final. Only one, '96 Wimbledon, did not have a top 16 seed. Just 6 unseeded players have won a modern-era GS: 1982 RG (Wilander), 1985 W (Becker), 1994 USO (Agassi), 1997 RG (Kuerten), 2001 W (Ivanisevic), 2004 RG (Gaudio).


Semifinals

Most:
4 - 80 times (17 AO, 19 RG, 18 W, 26 USO)

Note that 7 of the AO occurrences happened with draws smaller than 128.


Least:
1 - 4 times (1 AO, 2 RG, 1 W)
1997 W (#1 Sampras | Pioline | Woodbridge, Stich)
1997 RG (Kuerten | #16 Bruguera | Dewulf, Rafter)
1999 AO (#10 Kafelnikov | Enqvist | Haas, Lapentti)
1999 RG (#13 Agassi | Medvedev | Hrbaty, Meligeni)


US Open Least - 2 - 2 times
1994 USO (Agassi | #4 Stick | Novacek, #9 Martin)
1997 USO (#13 Rafter | Rusedski | Bjorkman, #2 Chang)


Quarterfinals

Most:
8 - 13 times (3 AO, 2 RG, 5 USO), 3 W)

1968 USO (#5 Ashe | #8 Okker | #3 Rosewall, #7 Graebner | #4 Newcombe, #6 Ralston, #13 Gonzales, #16 Drysdale)
1970 AO (#4 Ashe| #12 Crealy | #8 Taylor, #6 Ralston | #1 Roche, #3 Okker, #10 Ruffels, #2 Newcombe)
1975 W (#6 Ashe | #1 Connors | #11 Tanner, #16 Roche | #8 Ramirez, #4 Vilas, #3 Borg, #9 Okker)
1984 RG (#2 Lendl | #1 McEnroe | #3 Connors, #4 Wilander | #5 Arias, #6 Noah, #7 Gomez, #9 Sundstrom)
2002 RG (#20 Costa| #11 Ferrero | #18 Corretja, #2 Safin | #15 Canas, #22 Pavel, #4 Agassi, #10 Grosjean)
2002 USO (#17 Sampras | #6 Agassi | #1 Hewitt, #24 Schalken | #20 El Aynaoui, #32 Mirnyi, #11 Roddick, #28 Gonzalez)
2003 USO (#4 Roddick | #3 Ferrero | #1 Agassi, #13 Nalbandian | #5 Coria, #6 Hewitt, #12 Schalken, #22 El Aynaoui)
2005 AO (#4 Safin| #3 Hewitt | #1 Federer, #2 Roddick | #8 Agassi, #20 Hrbaty, #9 Nalbandian, #26 Davydenko)
2005 W (#1 Federer | #2 Roddick | #3 Hewitt, #12 Johansson | #21 Gonzalez, #26 Lopez, #18 Nalbandian, #9 Grosjea
2007 W (#1 Federer | #2 Nadal | #12 Gasquet, #4 Djokovic | #20 Ferrero, #3 Roddick, #10 Baghdatis, #7 Berdych)n)
2007 USO (#1 Federer | #3 Djokovic | #4 Davydenko, #15 Ferrer | #5 Roddick, #10 Haas, #17 Moya, #20 Chela)
2009 AO (#1 Nadal| #2 Federer | #7 Roddick, #14 Verdasco | #3 Djokovic, #5 Tsonga, #6 Simon, #8 del Potro)
2009 RG (#2 Federer | #23 Soderling | #5 Del Potro, #12 Gonzalez | #3 Murray, #10 Davydenko, #11 Monfils, #16 Robredo)
2009 USO (#6 Del Potro | #1 Federer | #3 Nadal, #4 Djokovic | #10 Verdasco, #11 Gonzalez, #12 Soderling, #16 Cilic)


This is heavily biased towards 32 seed events, but the 'best' performance still comes in the 84 RG, which got 8 of the top 9 through. Also, the 70 AO and 68 USO weren't 128-entry events, so somewhat less impressive.

Least:
2 - 1 time (1 RG)
1997 RG (Kuerten | #16 Bruguera | DeWulf, Rafter | #3 Kafelnikov, Norman, Blanco, Arazi)


AO Least - 3 - 1 times
1999 AO (#10 Kafelnikov | Enqvist | Haas, Lapentti | #7 Kucera, #15 Martin, Spadea, Rosset)


USO Least - 3 - 1 time
1994 USO (Agassi | #4 Stich | #9 Martin, Novacek | #13 Muster, Yzaga, Bjorkman, Karbacher)


W Least - 3 - 1 time
1997 W (#1 Sampras | Pioline | Woodbirdge, Graebner | #8 Becker, Kiefer, #14 Henman, Rusedski)


Surely an untouchable set of records now. The 1977 AO tied the AO record at three, but had just 8 seeds.


Round of 16

I will mention, but with a caveat, the AOs of the early 70s, which boast strong records for the top 16, but with draws of only 64.

Most:
15 - 3 times (2 AO, 1 RG)
2007 AO (#1 Federer | #10 Gonzalez | #6 Roddick, #12 Haas | #2 Nadal, #3 Djokovic, #7 Robredo, Fish | #5 Blake, #8 Nalbandian, #9 Ancic, #13 Berdych, #14 Djokovic, #15 Murray, #16 Ferrer, #18 Gasquet)
2009 AO (#1 Nadal | #2 Federer | #5 Tsonga, #7 Roddick | #6 Simon, #14 Verdasco, #3 Djokovic, #8 del Potro | #13 Gonzalez, #12 Monfils, #4 Murray, #9 Blake, #21 Robredo, Baghdatis, #19 Cilic, #20 Berdych)
2009 RG (#1 Nadal, #2 Federer, #3 Murray, #5 del Potro, #8 Verdasco, #12 Gonzalez, #16 Robredo, #6 Roddick, #23 Soderling, #10 Davydenko, #13 Cilic, #30 Hanescu, #9 Tsonga, #29 Kohlschreiber, #11 Monfils, Haas)
2009 USO (#6 Del Potro | #1 Federer | #3 Nadal, #4 Djokovic | #10 Verdasco, #11 Gonzalez, #12 Soderling, #16 Cilic | #2 Murray, #7 Tsonga, #8 Davydenko, #13 Monfils, #14 Robredo, #15 Stepanek, #24 Ferrero, Isner)


W Best - 14 - 1 time
2005 W (#1 Federer | #2 Roddick | #3 Hewitt, #12 Johansson | #9 Grosjean, #18 Nalbandian, #21 Gonzalez, #26 Lopez | #10 Ancic, #15 Coria, #23 Ferrero, #24 Dent, #27 Gasquet, #31 Youzhny, Mirnyi,Tursunov)


Least:
4 - 1 time (1 AO)
1998 AO (#6 Korda | #9 Rios | Kucera, Escude | #1 Sampras, #4 Bjorkman, Kiefer, Berasategui | Arazi, Fromberg, Black, Pioline, Woodbridge, Raoux, Roux, Agassi)

RG Least - 5 - 1 time
1994 RG (#6 Bruguera | Berasategui | #7 Courier, Larsson | #1 Sampras, #4 Medvedev, #5 Ivanisevic, Dreekmann | Tillstrom, Delaitre, Eltingh, Rafter, Gaudenzi, Frana, Yzaga, Krickstein)

USO Least - 5 - 2 times
1971 USO (#2 Smith | Kodes | #3 Ashe, #4 Okker | #5 Riessen, #7 Graebner, Froehling, Osborne | Lutz, Carmichael, Alexander, Orantes, Moore, Taylor, Pilic, Holecek)
1988 USO (#2 Wilander | #1 Lendl | #4 Agassi, Cahill | #3 Edberg, #6 Connors, Rostagno, Krickstein, Sanchez | Hlasek, Agenor, Chang, Lozano, Laurendeau, Frawley, Woodforde)


W Least - 6 - 6 times
1979 W (#1 Borg | #5 Tanner | #3 Connors, Dupre | #15 Gullikson, Okker, Scanlon, Panatta | #2 McEnroe, #14 Clerc, Teacher, Mayer, Cox, Drewett, Mayer, Lutz)
1981 W (#2 McEnroe | #1 Borg | #3 Connors, Frawley | #12 McNamara, Amritraj, Mayotte, Kriek | #14 Fibak, #16 Gerulaitis, Borowiak, Kronk, Fitzgerald, Mayer, Gonzalez, Smith)
1990 W (#3 Edberg | #2 Becker | #1 Lendl, Ivanisevic | #7 Gilbert, Pearce, Bergstrom, Curren | #11 Forget, #13 Chang, Antonitsch, Woodforde, Volkov, Koevermans, Wheaton, Cash)
1996 W (#17 Krajicek | Washington | #13 Martin, Stoltenberg | #1 Sampras, #4 Ivanisevic, Henman, Radulescu | #10 Stich, #16 Pioline, Rafter, Hlasek, Gustafsson, Johansson, Haarhuis, Godwin)
1998 W (#1 Sampras | #14 Ivanisevic | #9 Krajicek, #12 Henman | #3 Korda, Philippoussis, Siemerink, Sanguinetti | #6 Rafter, Grosjean, Stoltenberg, van Lottum, Larsson, Martin, Ferreira, Clavet)
2000 W (#1 Sampras | #12 Rafter | #2 Agassi, Voltchkov | #10 Philippoussis, Gambill, Black, Popp | #8 Henman, #9 Enqvist, Bjorkman, Pozzi, Ferreira, Johansson, Rosset, Prinosil)


The Wimbledon record is technically 5, but this came in the 8 seed 1971 tournament, which doesn't have much comparison value.

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