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08-15-2015 05:35 AM
Litotes
Re: Tie-break's stuff

Already updated
04-11-2014 01:56 PM
Voo de Mar
Re: Tie-break's stuff

Quote:
Originally Posted by Freak3yman84 View Post
Voo, how often are both players in a match on the receiving end of a TB bagel?

Mersin CH R1: Viola def. Davydenko 6-7(0) 7-6(0) 6-3
I see it first time.
04-10-2014 05:56 PM
E-r-i-c
Re: Tie-break's stuff

djokovic sucks at TB.
4-6 vs Murray[1-3 in Slams]
4-8 vs Nadal[1-3 in Slams]
8-8 vs Federer[2-6 in Slams]
04-08-2014 11:00 PM
Freak3yman84
Re: Tie-break's stuff

Voo, how often are both players in a match on the receiving end of a TB bagel?

Mersin CH R1: Viola def. Davydenko 6-7(0) 7-6(0) 6-3
03-04-2014 07:16 PM
Voo de Mar
Re: Tie-break's stuff

Quote:
Originally Posted by emotion View Post

Surprised Bellucci is so high and Djokovic so low
This is what surprised me + Robredo under 50%
03-04-2014 05:30 PM
emotion
Re: Tie-break's stuff

Karlovic at 500 is shameful, though him being involved in many long ones is NID

Montanes is such a mental GOAT

Surprised Bellucci is so high and Djokovic so low
03-04-2014 05:22 PM
Litotes
Re: Tie-break's stuff

Great work as always, Voo

No surprise Karlovic played more than anyone else. A bit surprising to see Djokovic on 50,8%, though.
03-04-2014 04:24 PM
Voo de Mar
Re: Tie-break's stuff

Tie-breaks with two changes of ends at least (before Monte Carlo 2014)

[tie-breaks '8/6' and longer...]

Below a record-list of 55 best-active & 82 non-active guys ("best" by my criteria), who have played at least 100 main-level tournaments.

I'd propose a term "standard tie-break" for most tie-breaks we witness & it's quite broad term because stretches between 7/0 & 7/5 scores. No matter whether it's 7/0 or 7/5, in both cases (and four others in between), there's only one change of ends (at 3-all, 4:2, 5:1 or 6:0). Vast majority of tie-breaks that everyone experiences over the course of his career, I'd call "standard ones".
How to call longer than standard ones? This is what I propose focusing on number of points not the time of play:

- 2 changes of ends - quite long TB (8/6... 9/7... 10/8)
- 3 changes of ends - long TB (11/9... 12/10... 13/11)
- 4 changes of ends - very long TB (14/12... 15/13... 16/14)
- 5 changes of ends - marathon TB (17/15... 18/16... 19/17)
- 6 changes of ends - record TB
(within 44 years since the tie-break inception, there hasn't been an official TB longer than 20/18)

* In parentheses: long, very long, marathon & record TBs respectively...


Code:
Tsonga		36-16	.692  (8-1, 0-1, 0-0, 1-0)
Isner		54-25	.683  (12-5, 1-1, 1-0)
Murray 		22-11	.666  (4-2)
Federer		73-38	.657  (7-3, 3-0, 0-0, 1-0)
Nadal		34-18 	.653  (6-1, 0-1)
Nieminen	37-23 	.616  (5-3, 1-0)

Youzhny		36-26	.580  (3-5, 2-1)
Melzer		30-23	.566  (5-5)
Stakhovsky	17-13	.566  (1-3)
Del Potro	23-18	.560  (2-5, 1-0)
Davydenko	38-32	.542  (6-2, 1-0)
Monfils		22-19	.536  (4-3, 1-1)
Mayer F.	16-14	.533  (0-3, 1-0)
Hanescu		26-23	.530  (3-2, 1-2)
Hewitt          30-28   .517  (4-3, 0-2)
Cilic		26-25	.509  (0, 0-1)
Djokovic	30-29	.508  (3-6, 1-0)
Karlovic	59-58	.504  (12-6, 5-3)
Lopez F.	40-40	.500  (6-6, 0-2)
Benneteau	18-18	.500  (5-1)
Anderson	14-14	.500  (3-0, 0-1)

Kohlschreiber	27-28	.490  (2-3, 1-0)
Fish		23-24	.489  (1-3, 1-2, 0-1)
Haas		42-44	.488  (4-6)
Ferrer		21-22	.488  (3-1, 1-2)
Tursunov	21-22	.488  (1-3, 1-1)
Seppi		20-21	.487  (1-1, 1-1)
Baghdatis	19-20	.487  (2-5)
Berdych		36-38	.486  (5-5, 2-1)
Monaco		18-19	.486  (1-1, 1-1)
Robredo		27-29	.482  (5-2, 0-1)
Chardy		14-15	.482  (3-3)
Verdasco	34-37	.478  (3-5, 1-0)
Llodra		20-22	.476  (2-1)
Mathieu		20-24	.454  (4-3, 1-1)
Troicki		12-15	.444  (0-1, 1-0)
Wawrinka	25-33	.431  (2-2, 0-2)
Querrey		21-28	.425  (7-3, 0-1)
Simon		14-19	.424  (0-1)
Tipsarevic	20-28	.416  (4-2, 2-1)
Dolgopolov	10-14	.416  (1-1, 0-2)
Garcia-Lopez    15-21   .416  (2-2, 1-0)
Stepanek	22-31	.415  (1-3, 0-2)

Gasquet		20-31	.392  (3-3, 1-1)
Gulbis		11-18	.379  (1-4)
Almagro		20-33	.377  (2-2, 1-1)
Ginepri		9-20	.310  (0-2)
Thx to this stats you can easily imagine how many sets each player won/lost being (at least!) two points away from loss/win

82 non-active players (born after 1970)...

Code:
Rios		31-16	.659
Lapentti	34-18 	.653
Gaudio		18-10	.642
Rafter		31-20	.620
Kafelnikov	52-33	.611
Johansson	40-26	.606
Ivanisevic	68-45	.601
Medvedev	28-19	.595
Gonzalez	32-22	.592
Henman		43-30	.589
Norman		25-18	.581
Berasategui	18-13	.580
Ferreira	44-33	.571
T.Martin	34-26	.566
Mirnyi		34-26	.566
Sanguinetti	26-20	.565
Sampras		67-52	.563
Moya		53-41	.563
Agassi		49-38	.563
Escude		18-14	.562
Rosset		41-32	.561
Kiefer		23-18	.560
Roddick		61-48	.559
Ferrero		34-27	.557
Malisse		30-25	.545
Chang		39-32	.549
Grosjean	34-28	.548
Gambill		26-22	.541
Arazi		20-17	.540
Enqvist		45-39	.535
Safin		38-33	.535
Ulihrach	18-16	.529
Clement		29-26	.527
Fromberg	29-26	.527
Mantilla	20-18	.526
Ljubicic	61-55	.525
Larsson		31-28	.525
Schuettler	21-19	.525
Santoro		37-34	.521
Siemerink	29-27	.517
Woodbridge	16-15	.516
Bruguera	26-25	.509
Blake		34-34	.500
Andreev		22-22	.500
Chela		21-21	.500
Hyung-Taik	15-15	.500
Courier		32-33	.492
Corretja	23-24	.489
Ancic		20-21	.487
Canas		19-20	.487
Carlsen		29-31	.483
Kucera		20-22	.476
Spadea		20-22	.476
Rusedski        53-59	.473
Soderling	25-28	.471
El Aynaoui	22-26	.458
Bjorkman	33-42	.444
Krajicek	33-42	.444
Hrbaty		29-37	.439
Koubek		14-18	.437
Massu		16-21	.432
Philippoussis	33-45	.423
Arthurs		25-34	.423
Kuerten		20-28	.416
Nalbandian	15-21	.416
Schalken	19-27	.413
Pavel		23-33	.410
Novak		14-22	.388
Zabaleta	12-20	.375
Srichaphan	13-22	.371
Stoltenberg	14-26	.350
Guys who played only 25 "long" tie-breaks or less
Code:
Nishikori       10-5    .666  (1-0)
Coria		11-6	.647
Montanes	14-8	.636  (0-1, 0-0, 1-0)
A.Martin	13-8	.619
Puerta		11-7 	.611
Bellucci	15-10	.600  (1-1)
Dent		14-11	.560
Portas		11-9	.550
Gaudenzi	13-11	.541
Granollers	9-8	.529  (1-1, 1-0)
Sargsian	12-12	.500
Acasuso		10-12	.454
Fognini		10-13	.434  (2-2)
Haase		8-12	.400  (1-0)
Volandri	9-15	.375  (0-2)
Calleri		8-15	.347
Squillari	6-12	.333
02-04-2014 11:23 PM
bry17may
Re: Tie-break's stuff

Some more Tie-break matches

San Francisco 1981 McCain - Stefanki 76 67 76
Wahington 1982 Fillol - McNamee 76 67 76
Monterrey 1983 Testerman - Meyer 67 76 76
Melbourne 1984 Bauer - Bourne 76 67 76
Kitzbuhel 1985 Westphal - Simonsson 76 67 76

I checked all the tournaments between 1981-1988 and is all that I can fin I will look in the rest of the years another day
02-04-2014 07:03 PM
InfoKenway
Re: Tie-break's stuff

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voo de Mar View Post
Interesting facts about tie-breaks:


The longest tie-break (singles):
20/18... six times
The longest tie-break (doubles):
J.Gunnarsson/M.Mortensen d. J.Frawley/V.Pecci 6-3 6-4 3-6 7-6(26/24). Wimbledon 1985
The longest tie-break (mixed doubles):
M.Louie/A.Lucchesi d. D.Desfor/H.Reid 6-2 6-7 7-6(18/16). US Open 1978

The longest tie-break in the deciding 3rd set:
G.Ivanisevic d. G.Rusedski 4-6 6-4 7-6(20/18). Queens Club 1997
The longest tie-break in the 5th set:
K.Flach d. D.Cahill 1-6 6-4 3-6 6-1 7-6(17/15). US Open 1987
The longest tie-break in the deciding set (doubles):
P.Goldstein/J.Thomas d. S.Aspelin/T.Perry 4-6 6-4 7-6(16/14). US Open 2004 ??
The longest "Champions Tie-break":
A.Montanes/R.Ramirez-Hidalgo d. S.Aspelin/F.Cermak 7-6 1-6 [23-21]. Estoril 2007

The most tie-breaks played in a career: 528 - Roger Federer
The most tie-breaks won in a career: 343 - Roger Federer
The most tie-breaks won within a season: 41 - John Isner (2012)
The most tie-breaks won in a row: 18 - Andy Roddick (2007)
The most tie-breaks lost in a row: 17 - Robin Haase (2012-13)
The most tie-breaks played in one event: 11 - Goran Ivanisevic (Wimbledon 1998)
The most tie-breaks won in one event: 8 - G.Ivanisevic (Wimbledon '98), W.Arthurs (Wimbledon '99), N.Djokovic (Wimbledon '07)
The most tie-breaks played in a row in consecutive sets: 7 - Ivo Karlovic (2003-04) & Marat Safin (2004)
The most tie-breaks won in a row in consecutive sets: 4 - a few players
The most tie-breaks lost in a row in consecutive sets: 6 - David Wheaton (1989)
The most tie-breaks won in the 5th set: 4 - Marat Safin & Aaron Krickstein Most lost: 4 - Ivan Lendl
The most tie-breaks won in the deciding 3rd set: 34 - Ivo Karlovic, 33 - Carlos Moya & Ivan Ljubicic Most lost: 31 - Safin
The most tie-breaks won in the deciding set in a row : 17 - Carlos Moya (2002-2008)
The most matches won in a row after 3rd set TB in consecutive matches: 5 - John Isner (Washington 2007)

Winning a tie-break despite trailing 0:6:
T.Woodbridge d. B.Gilbert 7-6(7) 6-3 [Sydney 1990]
J.Siemerink l. R.Krajicek 6-7 4-6 7-6 7-6(8) 4-6 [US Open 1994]

"Tie-break double bagel": M.Lee d. S.Schalken 7-6(0) 7-6(0) [Rotterdam 2002]
The most tie-break points played in a 2-setter: C.Pioline d. Y.El Aynaoui 7-6(8) 7-6(14) [Lyon 1993]


The longest tie-breaks outside the main-level:


Longest tie-break in ATP qualifying tournament:
A.Rahunen d P.Nyborg 7-6(24/22), 2-6, 6-3 (Copenhagen, 1992)
Longest tie-break in major qualifying tournament:
M.Llodra d. R.Fromberg 6-3, 6-7(19/21), 8-6 (Wimbledon, 2001)
Longest tie-break in Challengers:
M.Gallardo d. S.Giraldo 7-6(22/20), 6-2 (Campos do Jordao, 2005)
Longest tie-break in Futures:
B.Balleret d. G.Couillard 7-6(36/34), 6-1 (USA F1, 2013)
Longest tie-break in juniors:
R.Karanusic d. A.Roddick 4-6, 7-6(18/16), 7-5 (Mexico, 1999) ??
Longest tie-break in seniors:
G.Forget d. J.McEnroe 6-4, 7-6(20/18) (London, 2001)
Longest super TB in juniors:
H.Cunha d. U.Ignatik 4-2, 1-4, [31-29] (Roehamption, 2007)
Longest super TB in seniors:
T.Muster d. P.Cash 3-6, 6-3, [19-17] (Doha, 2006)
Fixed
02-04-2014 06:59 PM
Litotes
Re: Tie-break's stuff

Quote:
Originally Posted by InfoKenway View Post
Did Federer overcame Sampras in Tiebreak stuff?
Federer's TB record is currently 343-185 (65%).

Sampras is still om 328-194 (62,8%).
02-04-2014 06:58 PM
InfoKenway
Re: Tie-break's stuff

Did Federer overcame Sampras in Tiebreak stuff?
02-04-2014 01:29 PM
Voo de Mar
Re: Tie-break's stuff

It's been added but forum sucks lately & posts have to be edited twice to display new content
02-04-2014 02:57 AM
Freak3yman84
Re: Tie-break's stuff

DC Europe Group 1: Kavcic def. Sousa 7-6(14), 6-1 ,6-4
01-24-2014 06:37 AM
bry17may
Re: Tie-break's stuff

Tie-breaks in Grand Slams
Code:
Player		Total		   AO		    FO		    W		    USO	
		W	L	W	L	W	L	W	L	W	L
Federer		114	49	29	10	23	11	40	14	22	14
Lendl		98	50	22	10	22	7	34	20	20	13
Sampras		95	62	19	16	8	11	32	20	36	15
Edberg		74	47	19	10	14	11	24	15	17	11
Roddick		72	48	13	11	6	2	35	20	18	15
Agassi		69	49	13	8	9	4	20	16	27	21
Djokovic	67	32	12	8	13	5	20	8	22	11
Becker		66	41	9	9	4	2	35	22	18	8
Martin		65	55	20	7	6	7	25	22	14	19
Nadal		64	31	12	9	15	5	19	10	18	7
Ivanisevic	62	46	5	7	3	7	41	24	13	8
McEnroe		57	33	4	2	9	7	26	11	18	13
Hewitt		55	47	14	9	12	9	16	17	13	12
Safin		55	37	18	11	8	11	14	9	15	6
Wilander	52	28	14	7	10	9	11	7	17	5
Haas		51	43	11	8	10	9	12	15	18	11
Connors		50	34	3	2	9	3	19	17	19	12
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