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07-26-2012 03:54 PM
Andy1402
Re: federer's return of serve

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Originally Posted by Mark Lenders View Post
While Tsonga in the top 10, the only one who can take the "Worst returner in the top 10" tittle from him is Isner (same goes for worst backhand really).

Federer's aggressive return isn't great, his blocked returns are only second to Murray's though.
Do the blocked returns depend entirely on placement? Or is there any other factor that i am not aware of?
07-26-2012 03:51 PM
Mark Lenders
Re: federer's return of serve

While Tsonga in the top 10, the only one who can take the "Worst returner in the top 10" tittle from him is Isner (same goes for worst backhand really).

Federer's aggressive return isn't great, his blocked returns are only second to Murray's though.
07-26-2012 03:45 PM
Chirag
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Originally Posted by SheenKJohn View Post
Halle was broadcasted on Sony Six actually in India !!
You mean it was readily available on Tv and I wasted my bandwidth watching on a stream


Respectfully
Chirag
07-26-2012 03:44 PM
Chirag
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Originally Posted by Andy1402 View Post
No it wasn't. He always had a neutralizing serve. It was maybe the weakest part of his amazing game excet for the backhand ( which is holding up superbly is recent tournaments)
In his heyday and right now indoors his backhand wasn't a liability it was actually a weapon .Only after his decline has the backhand become suspect to breaking down


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Chirag
07-26-2012 03:37 PM
Andy1402
Re: federer's return of serve

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Originally Posted by SheenKJohn View Post
Halle was broadcasted on Sony Six actually in India !!
Sony six! Did not know that. Do they also broadcast other masters tournaments on the channel?
07-26-2012 03:29 PM
SheenKJohn
Re: federer's return of serve

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Originally Posted by Andy1402 View Post
Sorry but missed the halle tournament. Star sports refuses to air smaller events in india.
Murray made the mistake of giving fed too much time after tje return in the Wimbledon final.
Halle was broadcasted on Sony Six actually in India !!
07-26-2012 03:13 PM
Andy1402
Re: federer's return of serve

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in his prime it was maybe best ever
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Negative. His ROS used to be incredibly aggressive, but often he would choose to neutralise against big servers, of which he predominantly faced during his peak.

Roger has lost a half step and thus his ROS has suffered considerably.

I would barely consider his backhand a weakness anymore. It only really fails majorly against Rafa for obvious reasons.
No. His backhand is no more a weakness and i doubt it would even fail against nadal now.
but djokovic has an aggressive ros and it is definitely more effective thamn federers. However i think fed does extremely well on placement which doesn't give the opponent an opportunity to be aggressive.
07-26-2012 02:51 PM
Fujee
Re: federer's return of serve

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No it wasn't. He always had a neutralizing serve. It was maybe the weakest part of his amazing game excet for the backhand ( which is holding up superbly is recent tournaments)
Negative. His ROS used to be incredibly aggressive, but often he would choose to neutralise against big servers, of which he predominantly faced during his peak.

Roger has lost a half step and thus his ROS has suffered considerably.

I would barely consider his backhand a weakness anymore. It only really fails majorly against Rafa for obvious reasons.
07-26-2012 02:39 PM
Andy1402
Re: federer's return of serve

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Originally Posted by pray-for-palestine-and-israel View Post
in his prime it was maybe best ever
No it wasn't. He always had a neutralizing serve. It was maybe the weakest part of his amazing game excet for the backhand ( which is holding up superbly is recent tournaments)
07-26-2012 02:36 PM
pray-for-palestine-and-israel
Re: federer's return of serve

in his prime it was maybe best ever
07-26-2012 02:22 PM
Fujee
Re: federer's return of serve

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Originally Posted by Whiznot View Post
I would like to see Federer try to return like Rosol against Nadal. Rosol used animated movement while waiting for Nadal's serve and then drove returns hard at Rafa's feet. Attacking Nadal's serve can keep him unsettled.
I don't think Federer could ever maintain such a level of concentration as Rosol did against Rafito.
07-26-2012 02:04 PM
Whiznot
Re: federer's return of serve

I would like to see Federer try to return like Rosol against Nadal. Rosol used animated movement while waiting for Nadal's serve and then drove returns hard at Rafa's feet. Attacking Nadal's serve can keep him unsettled.
07-26-2012 01:05 PM
Fujee
Re: federer's return of serve

It used to be really awesome.
07-26-2012 12:20 PM
DJ Soup
Re: federer's return of serve

a good ROS doesn't necessarily have to be an offensive ROS, it can be a neutralizing ROS.
Fed does well with the latter
07-26-2012 12:19 PM
Chirag
Re: federer's return of serve

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Originally Posted by leng jai View Post
Haas actually didn't serve and volley that much in Halle surprisingly. He did it more prolifically in 2009. Federer has historically done very well against net rushers but he doesn't return in the same manner against them. He drives the ball more often and tries to block it back with less margin over the net. Serve and volleying would be effective against him if it was used at the right moment. For example at break point down in the ad court. First serve wide to the backhand. 9/10 times Federer will chip that back with margin which would be an easy put away for a decent volleyer. Two or three times a set would be sparing even for him not to expect it.
Haas's serve and backhand was too solid in Halle .He didnt need to rush to the net
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