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Will Federer regain the #1 spot and break Sampras's record for most weeks at the top?

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Will Federer regain the #1 spot?

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#1 ·
Looking at the rankings and the number of points Roger and Rafa have to defend this year, I'd say it's unlikely that Federer can regain it by the end of the season.

His best chance will probably come during next year's clay court season where he doesn't defend much and Nadal defends everything. Whether his game will be up to the level recquired to do it at almost 30 years old is anyone's guess, though.
 
#778 ·
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Hell yes! Come on Roger!

Suppose if Roger loses tomorrow, then where will he need to reach in Rome to get 2nd? Will it be all down to Roger or will it also depend on Nadal's performance?
It depends on Nadal mostly either way. If Nadal wins Rome, Fed can't get to No. 2 even if he wins Madrid and reaches final in Rome.
 
#779 ·
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If Roger wins Madrid:

-If Nadal wins Rome, he is back to number 2 anyway.
-If Nadal loses in final, Roger has to reach SF to remain number 2.
-If Nadal loses in SF or earlier, Federer remains number 2 for sure.
 
#788 ·
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Fed plays better than Rafa Nole on baseline this year. People should see that already. He will beat both of them in a slam or two. AO is different condition and history. That time Fed isn't well conditioned and Nole still at peak.
 
#791 ·
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of course he will

whatever Maestro wants - he takes.
 
#792 ·
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Federer really should have had this record sewn up years ago had he not clowned about during the end of 2009 and the Spring in 2010.

Unlike the overrated 'years ended as world no. 1' record which Sampras, Annacone and numerous tennis writers hyped up in the 90s, this record is actually pretty meaningful in my opinion.
 
#807 ·
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Federer really should have had this record sewn up years ago had he not clowned about during the end of 2009 and the Spring in 2010.

Unlike the overrated 'years ended as world no. 1' record which Sampras, Annacone and numerous tennis writers hyped up in the 90s, this record is actually pretty meaningful in my opinion.
How is most years as the world's best player an overrated record?

:rolleyes:
 
#795 ·
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No, Dr.Federer won't be able to become number 1 again ever just because he does not want to otherwise nobody on this planet can stop him not. I still believe it was Jesus Christ himself who took the form of Dr.Soderling in that excruciating RG 2010 QF and crushed the soul of Dr.Federer.
 
#796 ·
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No, Dr.Federer won't be able to become number 1 again ever just because he does not want to otherwise nobody on this planet can stop him not. I still believe it was Jesus Christ himself who took the form of Dr.Soderling in that excruciating RG 2010 QF and crushed the soul of Dr.Federer.
Sod gave, Sod took away.
 
#799 ·
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i really thought he had no chance becoming number 1 again

i think federer is the best 30+ year old in the history of tennis
(he was already the best ever, but he's showing amazing resilience)

i know laver won the CGS at 30+ but that year he cam so close to not doing it, and with 3 of the slams being on grass i dont consider it the peak 30+ tennis

i think gonzales was a better 30+ tennis player than laver
i think agassi could have given him a run for his money too
 
#800 ·
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i really thought he had no chance becoming number 1 again

i think federer is the best 30+ year old in the history of tennis
(he was already the best ever, but he's showing amazing resilience)

i know laver won the CGS at 30+ but that year he cam so close to not doing it, and with 3 of the slams being on grass i dont consider it the peak 30+ tennis

i think gonzales was a better 30+ tennis player than laver
i think agassi could have given him a run for his money too
Eh, I wouldn't say that. Connors should be listed as well either way. I mean he turned 30 in 1982, a year he won both Wimbledon and the US Open and then defended his US Open title the next year. Not to mention, those couple spectacular runs he had later on and the many titles he won after 82.
 
#801 ·
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Olderer needs to convince the organizers to make RG blue clay, WImbledon 90's grass and USO indoors. That way he'll sweep these slams by standing in one place and serving :rocker2:
 
#803 ·
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Olderer needs to convince the organizers to make RG blue clay, WImbledon 90's grass and USO indoors. That way he'll sweep these slams by standing in one place and serving :rocker2:
if 90s grass was all serve speed then agassi wouldnt have beaten becker, macenroe and goran back to back to win wimbledon
 
#813 ·
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Anyway, here are the point breakdowns for Roger, Rafa and Nole since Shanghai 2011 (assuming Fed defeats Berdych, which is easier said than done):

Federer 6880
Djokovic 4890
Nadal 4045

Unless he goes really badly or Rafole catches fire, it's gonna be hard for him to miss out on the #1 spot.
 
#815 ·
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Anyway, here are the point breakdowns for Roger, Rafa and Nole since Shanghai 2011 (assuming Fed defeats Berdych, which is easier said than done):

Federer 6880
Djokovic 4890
Nadal 4045

Chase Visa: I come up with the same points total for Federer but not for Djokovic and Nadal:

Djokovic: 4880 (Basel 180, Paris 180, WTF 200, AO 2000, Dubai 180, IW 360, Miami 1000, MC 600, Madrid 180)
Nadal: 4080 (WTF 200, Doha 90, AO 1200, IW 360, Miami 360, DC 280, MC 1000, Barcelona 500, Madrid 90)
 
#816 ·
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Fed's got a great chance to be no.1 but it's not a done deal by any means - if Nadal wins both RG & Wimby for example, or Novak does, then I think they can hold him off. Personally think Fed's better in best of 3 than best of 5 now - find it hard to see him getting 3 sets off Nadal in a slam but he can beat him in a best of 3. Same for Novak too - other than maybe Wimbledon - think he just can't sustain the really high level needed - other opponents tend to generally (Tsonga & Wimbledon anomalies excluded) lower their level by the time Fed is 2 sets up but Novak/Rafa, even Andy, are the type to keep up their intensity throughout.

Fed might get to 6880 today but if for example Nadal wins Rome & RG, he's at 7045 - sure Fed will pick up points too - if we say Rome & RG semis, then I don't think he even gets to 8000 i.e. a 1000 gap between him & Nadal with Wimby to come. Same with Novak - you've got to think he'll defend the RG semi at least so can't see him dropping too many points till Wimbledon.

Fed apparently said yesterday he didn't know the no.2 was on the line until the media told him there and then which I find a bit off -- most players seem very aware of their points so seems odd he wouldn't know. Nadal knows he has to win Rome to guarantee keeping no.2 and I think he'll probably manage - he's done it in Hamburg vs Novak in 2008 and even at RG last year in some ways - Novak had to win the no.1 rather than Nadal lose it....
 
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Fed might get to 6880 today but if for example Nadal wins Rome & RG, he's at 7045 - sure Fed will pick up points too - if we say Rome & RG semis, then I don't think he even gets to 8000 i.e. a 1000 gap between him & Nadal with Wimby to come. Same with Novak - you've got to think he'll defend the RG semi at least so can't see him dropping too many points till Wimbledon.
I think one of Rafole will encounter disaster in Rome, RG, Wimbledon. Fed probably will tank Rome. Djokovic keeping no.1 is in real danger although now it looks impossible to lose it. Olympics and AO destroyed his year. I'll say Djoker won't have anymore slams in 2012. Add to the fact Nadal is as tired, can't keep up, Fed will no.1.
 
#820 ·
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If Federer is ever going to get that #1 ranking back, the next few months are likely to be his last chance to do so.

He has set himself up perfectly by racking up the titles since last fall. If he wins in Madrid today, he will be holding THREE Masters 1000 events, the WTF, and THREE 500 events.

Djokovic and Nadal haven't come close to their dominance of last year's first half of the season, and they still have bucketloads of points to lose (together - Rome, Wimbleedon and US Open. Djokovic - also Canada and Cincy).

Federer has plenty of room to score big points on the Wimbledon-Shanghai stretch, and, unless Djokal reassume their dominance (and/or Federer sucks badly), he could find himself in a position where he needs to win 'x match(es)' to reclaim the top spot.

A very real opportunity to get back to #1, and he could be in the mix for a couple of months - long enough to get the two weeks necessary to break Sampras's record.
 
#823 ·
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and Fed didnt even play Shanghai or Monte carlo masters
 
#824 ·
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Everything depends on the slams from now. If he wins one of them, and does well at the other two, it could be enough, but far from guaranteed. If he wins two of them, and doesn't bomb out very early at all the other tournaments, then No.1 is pretty much a lock.
 
#825 ·
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Everything depends on the slams from now. If he wins one of them, and does well at the other two, it could be enough, but far from guaranteed. If he wins two of them, and doesn't bomb out very early at all the other tournaments, then No.1 is pretty much a lock.
:haha:

Nadal and Djokovic won't lose to Verdasco and Tipsy in slams, Fed isn't getting near one, let alone two
 
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#826 ·
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Let's look at this the right way:

Rome

This is the easiest one to predict as we know the brackets. Federer, in this case, is in Djoker's half. It'll probably be another Rafole final, I'll go Rafa here.

Federer 7240
Djokovic 5480
Nadal 5080

Roland Garros

The main threats appear to be Del Potro (although he struggles against the big names now for whatever reason), Isner (if he breaks his funk) and Berdych. I'll still say the big 3 make the semis. Another Rafole final, and probably another Rafa win, depending on if Simon Reed is accurate.

Federer 7960
Nadal 7080
Djokovic 6880

Halle

No real changes here. I think Nadal will bow out early, but Fed will win assuming he plays.

Federer 8210
Nadal 7125
Djokovic 6880

Wimbledon

Now this is where shit gets interesting. I can easily see Berdych, Raonic or Tsonga knocking out a major player here. I'll say Djoker goes out in the QF's, and we'll see another Fedal final. It will be tight. Blood will be shed. Federer narrowly.

Federer 10210
Nadal 8325
Djokovic 7240

Olympics

Another interesting tournament. Grass as a general rule is quicker on the first week than the second week so it's likely that Nadal and Djokovic lose early.

Federer 10960
Nadal 8360
Djokovic 7375

Canada

This depends on how deep the others go into this tournament. Wouldn't surprise me to see Fed skip it, and Nadal I think will lose early-ish here. Djoker, however, if he loses early at the Olympics will win here.

Federer 10960
Nadal 8540
Djokovic 8375

Cinnicatti

A rare quick outdoor court, this should be heaven for Fed, and an early loss for Rafole should be expected.

Federer 11960
Nadal 8630
Djokovic 8555

US Open

This could be very interesting, as all of Isner, Del Potro, Berdych, Tsonga, Raonic and even Cilic could be threats to the top 4. I reckon Nadal loses earlish here, with a Fedole final likely. Who wins that depends on momentum, or court speed.

Federer 13960
Djokovic 9755
Nadal 8990

Tokyo/Beijing

Nadal makes the final in Tokyo but loses, Djokovic wins in Beijing.

Federer 13870
Djokovic 10255
Nadal 9290

Shanghai

Federer skips, Nadal loses early, Djoker makes the final but loses.

Federer 13870
Djokovic 10855
Nadal 9380

While it's somewhat favourable to Fed, it isn't that far fetched.
 
#830 ·
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Let's look at this the right way:

Rome

This is the easiest one to predict as we know the brackets. Federer, in this case, is in Djoker's half. It'll probably be another Rafole final, I'll go Rafa here.

Federer 7240
Djokovic 5480
Nadal 5080

Roland Garros

The main threats appear to be Del Potro (although he struggles against the big names now for whatever reason), Isner (if he breaks his funk) and Berdych. I'll still say the big 3 make the semis. Another Rafole final, and probably another Rafa win, depending on if Simon Reed is accurate.

Federer 7960
Nadal 7080
Djokovic 6880

Halle

No real changes here. I think Nadal will bow out early, but Fed will win assuming he plays.

Federer 8210
Nadal 7125
Djokovic 6880

Wimbledon

Now this is where shit gets interesting. I can easily see Berdych, Raonic or Tsonga knocking out a major player here. I'll say Djoker goes out in the QF's, and we'll see another Fedal final. It will be tight. Blood will be shed. Federer narrowly.

Federer 10210
Nadal 8325
Djokovic 7240

Olympics

Another interesting tournament. Grass as a general rule is quicker on the first week than the second week so it's likely that Nadal and Djokovic lose early.

Federer 10960
Nadal 8360
Djokovic 7375

Canada

This depends on how deep the others go into this tournament. Wouldn't surprise me to see Fed skip it, and Nadal I think will lose early-ish here. Djoker, however, if he loses early at the Olympics will win here.

Federer 10960
Nadal 8540
Djokovic 8375

Cinnicatti

A rare quick outdoor court, this should be heaven for Fed, and an early loss for Rafole should be expected.

Federer 11960
Nadal 8630
Djokovic 8555

US Open

This could be very interesting, as all of Isner, Del Potro, Berdych, Tsonga, Raonic and even Cilic could be threats to the top 4. I reckon Nadal loses earlish here, with a Fedole final likely. Who wins that depends on momentum, or court speed.

Federer 13960
Djokovic 9755
Nadal 8990

Tokyo/Beijing

Nadal makes the final in Tokyo but loses, Djokovic wins in Beijing.

Federer 13870
Djokovic 10255
Nadal 9290

Shanghai

Federer skips, Nadal loses early, Djoker makes the final but loses.

Federer 13870
Djokovic 10855
Nadal 9380

While it's somewhat favourable to Fed, it isn't that far fetched.
Great post.
 
#828 ·
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yadda yadda yadda
 
#829 ·
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Boy, oh, boy Roger's getting closer and the tards are getting nervous. I expect a global problem with tards' internet connections if RF somehow manages to get to #1. MTF will be half empty and 300% more intelligent for a few days.
 
#833 ·
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Boy, oh, boy Roger's getting closer and the tards are getting nervous. I expect a global problem with tards' internet connections if RF somehow manages to get to #1. MTF will be half empty and 300% more intelligent for a few days.
#1 would be wonderful, but just passing Nadal in the rankings after the clay season would be great, it would be the naturafedal order of things, Nadal ranked below Federer.
 
#834 ·
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Well...For most people the natural ranking of the current top 4 is:
Federer
Nadal
Djokovic
Murray

Doesn't mean shit about the current rankings though, it's just the way those four "grew up" on the tour.

But passing Nadal would feel great, for sure.
 
#835 ·
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Well...For most people the natural ranking of the current top 4 is:
Federer
Nadal
Djokovic
Murray

Doesn't mean shit about the current rankings though, it's just the way those four "grew up" on the tour.

But passing Nadal would feel great, for sure.
Even if Fed passes Nadal it won't last long. It's likely to be a narrow lead and Nadal's more likely to defend his RG title points than Federer is his finalist points... Of course then Nadal has more points to defend at Wimbledon. But I foresee the top positions going back and forth a few times....
 
#837 ·
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Embrace the Fed, Nole fan !

celebrate with me when he wins today
 
#840 ·
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It absolutely hillarious to see the fallacious arguments all the 'tards making :haha::superlol:

Would love to demolish these 'tards in a real life debate :haha:.
By what, saying stuff like brah and mirin'? News flash, just by adding that behind your argument, doesn't make them stick
 
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