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12-09-2011 05:11 PM
SetSampras
Re: What was the more impressive feat of GOAT slaying - Safin or Krajicek?

Safin and Krajicek were both dang tough at their peaks when they played their top level of tennis.. No shame in losing to either of these guys when they were at their best... of course, their best was few and far between.

I get a little more strange when Pete was losing to someone like Kucera or with Fed losing to a Fish or Canas etc. Marat and Rich? These guys can beat anyone on their day. Rich PROBABLY could have took more slams away from Pete.. As Marat PROBABLY should have took more slams away from Roger.
12-09-2011 05:03 PM
Johnny Groove
Re: What was the more impressive feat of GOAT slaying - Safin or Krajicek?

Sampras was never considered as invincible in his #1 days as Federer was in his. Sampras had already lost 6 times in '96 before Wimbledon, and guys like Karol Kucera, 107 rank, took Sampras to a 4th set tiebreaker 2 rounds before. Fed, meanwhile, was cruising and hardly losing games, let alone sets before Safin "turned the tennis world upside down" as the Eurosport commentator put it after match point.

In terms of shock and surprise, it has to be Safin over Fed. When it comes to ease of GOAT slaying, gotta give it to Krajicek.
12-09-2011 05:03 PM
Haelfix
Re: What was the more impressive feat of GOAT slaying - Safin or Krajicek?

Krajicek was something like 6-2 against Pete all the way up until the end (when he was injured and lost 2 in a row) and beat Pete consistently during his prime.

It was just one of those matches that was less about how good the players were, and more about matchup issues. Pete always hated playing mirrors of himself, and just could never get any sort of rhythm going. I felt that Pete played a pretty horrible match by his standards in that semi.

Imo the Safin matches were much more impressive. Not only the AO Federer match, but the fact that he blitzed Pete off the court at the USO as well. Those two matches were less about matchup issues, and more just bonafide incredible tennis performances. They were rather unique in Marat's career, as he seemed to be completely zoning, and not throwing random temper tantrums.
12-09-2011 04:52 PM
SetSampras
Re: What was the more impressive feat of GOAT slaying - Safin or Krajicek?

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Originally Posted by Shambritfan View Post
I'm saying Krajicek just because of how surprised (and disappointed as a glory hunting kid fan) I was. One of the shocks of that era, especially considering the ease of the victory, plus at Wimbledon of all places. Though Safin was also impressive, has to be said.

Krajicek had something like a 4-2 H2H advantage over Sampras, so it wasn't a fluke.

Added a poll.
A 5-4 h2h actually Though I have read 6-4 other places. Not sure of the validity of either


It wasn't THAT surprising IMO. If you watched and saw how Krajicek played throughout the whole tournament. He was on fire. It reminded me of Muster at the 95 French Open or 2001 Goran Wimbledon run. Rich could have been a big time force had he not been injured many of the times.
Kraijcek at that level could beat anyone any time.

That said.. Guys can catch fire and win by playing a flawless few weeks of tennis
12-09-2011 04:51 PM
Shinoj
Re: What was the more impressive feat of GOAT slaying - Safin or Krajicek?

Krajicek always had an upper hand over Sampras. In their previous meetings over 96 he had a hold over Sampras. While it was an upset at the end of the day it was not unexpected.

While Federer always had an upper hand over Safin before that and Safin was seen as an Underdog and add to that Federer's God Mode those days it really was a Classic in true sense.

Mind you Federer's form during 2004-05-06 was a notch above Sampras's form ever. That adds to it
12-09-2011 12:44 PM
Sham Kay Adams
Re: What was the more impressive feat of GOAT slaying - Safin or Krajicek?

I'm saying Krajicek just because of how surprised (and disappointed as a glory hunting kid fan) I was. One of the shocks of that era, especially considering the ease of the victory, plus at Wimbledon of all places. Though Safin was also impressive, has to be said.

Krajicek had something like a 4-2 H2H advantage over Sampras, so it wasn't a fluke.

Added a poll.
12-09-2011 12:22 PM
Egreen
Re: What was the more impressive feat of GOAT slaying - Safin or Krajicek?

Safin.
12-09-2011 12:21 PM
m9m9m9m9m9
Re: What was the more impressive feat of GOAT slaying - Safin or Krajicek?

Krajicek defeated Sampras in straight is definitely more of a shocker
12-09-2011 05:02 AM
tripwires
Re: What was the more impressive feat of GOAT slaying - Safin or Krajicek?

Defeating Sampras in straight sets on grass > beating Fed in 5 sets on a slowish hard court.
12-08-2011 07:30 PM
EddieNero
Re: What was the more impressive feat of GOAT slaying - Safin or Krajicek?

Safin-Federer was the best grand slam match in the Open Era.
12-08-2011 06:53 PM
Hensafmurrafter
Re: What was the more impressive feat of GOAT slaying - Safin or Krajicek?

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Originally Posted by SetSampras View Post
What this GOAT slaying crap? ROFL... One damn match is a slaying? Slaying is what Nadal has done to Rog. Not what Safin did to Rog or Krajciek did to Pete in one slam match.


Anyone can catch fire for a day or have a good two weeks. Hell, even your watch is right twice a day

My watch is correct all day long. Sounds like you need a new watch, sir.
12-08-2011 05:27 PM
GSMnadal
Re: What was the more impressive feat of GOAT slaying - Safin or Krajicek?

My man Richard destroying grassGOAT in straights

doesn't make Safins slaying of RF any less impressive though
12-08-2011 05:20 PM
samanosuke
Re: What was the more impressive feat of GOAT slaying - Safin or Krajicek?

Krajicek victory over Sampras was probably greater but Safin's title was more deserved . Safin in the final played against Hewitt and Krajicek after win over Sampras got extremely lucky with draw . Even bigger luck than Washington in finals was Stoltenberg in semis who beat Ivansevic round before . Goran was really bad match up for Richard
12-08-2011 05:19 PM
Fumus
Re: What was the more impressive feat of GOAT slaying - Safin or Krajicek?

Safin beat the GOAT at his GOATiest....probably the best match I've ever seen. Marat is a rock star.
12-08-2011 05:13 PM
pray-for-palestine-and-israel
Re: What was the more impressive feat of GOAT slaying - Safin or Krajicek?

sampras never had a chance against krajicek

federer blew match point

nuff said
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