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Should James Blake step down as VP of the Players Council?

celia
03-07-2007, 04:33 AM
In light of the scandal in Vegas, is James Blake suitable for the post of VP of the Players Council?? Should he voluntarily step down? or should he dig his heels in and stay put? What do you think? (Poll to follow).

Jlee
03-07-2007, 04:38 AM
I think that's going way too far. We have one side of the story of what happened which is far from complete and includes a LOT of speculation. I know this is James's site so no one will take it for anything but they seem to be addressing MTF directly...

- Indian Wells, CA - Hey there everybody, things are back up and running in JB Land. The draw is out in Indian Wells and James is in the top half as the number 6 seed. I hope to make it out to the desert next week to see him play.

Speaking of seeing James, I had a chance this past weekend in Vegas. Rough life, I know. James seemed to be handling the whole Vegas Round Robin fiasco well. I think the first thing I should point out to some fans who wrote in and posted on messageboards- James was going by the decisions made by the ATP; he had nothing to do with the decisions. For some reason, some fans out there seemed to think that James was pulling strings, and nothing could be farther from the truth. So let's put all that to rest, and perhaps the round robin format can be put to rest as well, so we can avoid all that garbage in the future.

http://www.jamesblaketennis.com/jb%20pages/news.htm

I don't think we know enough to make clear assumptions of guilt that would warrant something as big as that :shrug:

celia
03-07-2007, 04:39 AM
I think that's going way too far. We have one side of the story of what happened which is far from complete and includes a LOT of speculation. I know this is James's site so no one will take it for anything but they seem to be addressing MTF directly...


http://www.jamesblaketennis.com/jb%20pages/news.htm

I don't think we know enough to make clear assumptions of guilt that would warrant something as big as that :shrug:

so what's your vote?

RickDaStick
03-07-2007, 04:40 AM
I think that's going way too far. We have one side of the story of what happened which is far from complete and includes a LOT of speculation. I know this is James's site so no one will take it for anything but they seem to be addressing MTF directly...


http://www.jamesblaketennis.com/jb%20pages/news.htm

I don't think we know enough to make clear assumptions of guilt that would warrant something as big as that :shrug:

Why should we believe that source? Isnt that his official website? Of course thats what they will say.

Jlee
03-07-2007, 04:41 AM
so what's your vote?

:)

Until I have more knowledge from someone who observed what happened or him? - No.

If he did the things that it sounds like he did then probably, but I'm going to hold out until those are proved.

Why should we believe that source? Isnt that his official website? Of course thats what they will say.

...which I think I said when I posted it ;) I just thought it was funny how he seemed to be talking directly to MTF. :lol:

tangerine_dream
03-07-2007, 04:43 AM
:yawn: http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/beatdeadhorse.gif

Action Jackson
03-07-2007, 04:46 AM
Tangerinus, stealing my idea of the dead horse smiley? Have to say it's a good one though.

RickDaStick
03-07-2007, 04:46 AM
:)

Until I have more knowledge from someone who observed what happened or him? - No.

If he did the things that it sounds like he did then probably, but I'm going to hold out until those are proved.



...which I think I said when I posted it ;) I just thought it was funny how he seemed to be talking directly to MTF. :lol:


Whoever posted that most likely posts on MTF so there you go.

MarieS
03-07-2007, 04:47 AM
It's funny how people will take one voice of clearly questionable credibility in a sea of other sources saying otherwise and go with what that voice is saying. And oh, it's so good to hear that James is taking the LV thing well :D.Thank god, everyone was worried. He got screwed over so badly :(.


:yawn: http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/beatdeadhorse.gif

If you hadn't been a member since 2003, I'd say welcome to MTF :shrug:.

celia
03-07-2007, 04:49 AM
:yawn: http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/beatdeadhorse.gif

:lol: :rolls: [must steal that smiley!!!!!]

Jlee
03-07-2007, 04:50 AM
It's funny how people will take one voice of clearly questionable credibility in a sea of other sources saying otherwise and go with what that voice is saying. And oh, it's so good to hear that James is taking the LV thing well :D.Thank god, everyone was worried. He got screwed over so badly :(.


I'm not taking it as fact, just posting another side for the simple reason that he seemed to be addressing us and our continual consideration of the subject. Excuse me :shrug:

celia
03-07-2007, 04:51 AM
Tangerinus, stealing my idea of the dead horse smiley? Have to say it's a good one though.

first you encourage me to post the poll and then you avoid voting???

RickDaStick
03-07-2007, 04:54 AM
James Fake is a disgrace.

MarieS
03-07-2007, 04:56 AM
I'm not taking it as fact, just posting another side for the simple reason that he seemed to be addressing us and our continual consideration of the subject. Excuse me :shrug:

I think the continual consideration is warranted since this is ruining our sport :shrug: and besides, it gives people something to talk about until the IW starts :D. I understand it's at the expense of some people's favorite player, but what are you going to do?

Jlee
03-07-2007, 05:00 AM
I think the continual consideration is warranted since this is ruining our sport :shrug: and besides, it gives people something to talk about until the IW starts :D. I understand it's at the expense of some people's favorite player, but what are you going to do?

I completely agree.

I'm glad that something will be done about RR. I'm disappointed in what it looks like James did. I just usually like hearing both sides of a story. I feel like I've heard Korolev's, but not James's :shrug:

(Love your avatar :lol:)

Deboogle!.
03-07-2007, 05:03 AM
:yawn: Is there any proof he actually did anything unethical? I mean what he said in his press conference was dumb and tactless, but not unethical.

I mean, should Ljubicic resign because he's publicly trashed lots of his fellow players for no reason? :yawn: At least let's be consistent :cool:

Action Jackson
03-07-2007, 05:03 AM
first you encourage me to post the poll and then you avoid voting???

You didn't have to do anything and as for the poll, keep checking the results.

MisterQ
03-07-2007, 05:03 AM
What are the duties of the Vice-President of the Players Council?

MarieS
03-07-2007, 05:04 AM
I completely agree.

I'm glad that something will be done about RR. I'm disappointed in what it looks like James did. I just usually like hearing both sides of a story. I feel like I've heard Korolev's, but not James's :shrug:

(Love your avatar :lol:)
Well I think if James had any room to save face we would have heard his side by now :lol:. I can't imagine people didn't contact him to get his side out. It's also important to consider that when Zhenya said that it was Blake's initiative that led to this hoopla he had no incentive to make James look bad.

(J'torian is awesome :D :lol: )

R.Federer
03-07-2007, 05:12 AM
Until I see a statement from Blake as to what exactly he did, I only have Korolev's side of the story.

If there is any further information that suggests Blake pressured the supervisor at the scene in any way, then I will think of him as poorly as I do of Villiers for trying to screw a young pro.

But as far as I know it is not clear whether this was done for Blake without his pushing for it, or by his own push. I don't think any one here knows, right?

my0118
03-07-2007, 05:16 AM
Maybe he has to someday, but not right now.
Coz he should be not only ashamed of himself by what he had done using his status but be a common eyesore by other players who is being a part of the ATP council for a while.

R.Federer
03-07-2007, 05:23 AM
Is he appointed by someone or elected by all ATP players?

Action Jackson
03-07-2007, 05:29 AM
Is he appointed by someone or elected by all ATP players?

Elected by his peers.

atheneglaukopis
03-07-2007, 05:33 AM
1. Walking the other players' dogs:

http://www.jamesblaketennis.com/jb%20images/with_dog.jpg :dog:

2. Holding doggies and looking wholesome and cute: :D

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l317/crystalgrace26/james_blake_puppy_1.jpghttp://www.tennis-x.com/images/players/blake-dog.jpg :dog:
http://img2.menstennisforums.com/500/blake.jpg :dog:

:dog: :dog: :dog:Hence my signature. It never ends.

MisterQ
03-07-2007, 05:50 AM
1. Walking the other players' dogs:
2. Holding doggies and looking wholesome and cute: :D
:dog: :dog: :dog:

Not everyone is happy with this... :tears:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39256000/jpg/_39256938_fed_cat_203.jpg

atheneglaukopis
03-07-2007, 05:54 AM
Not everyone is happy with this... :tears:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39256000/jpg/_39256938_fed_cat_203.jpg
What Blake is secretly arranging as VP, under the guise of Mr. Nice Guy dog-lover: http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=4768357&postcount=3117

atheneglaukopis
03-07-2007, 06:02 AM
:spit: :haha::haha::p Never let it be said that James doesn't work in the players' interests.

MisterQ
03-07-2007, 06:03 AM
What Blake is secretly arranging as VP, under the guise of Mr. Nice Guy dog-lover: http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=4768357&postcount=3117

Is that the grassy knoll of Centre Court?

atheneglaukopis
03-07-2007, 06:06 AM
:tape: Speaking of which, I must say that as a person whose real name is James, it's been hilariously disconcerting to read MTF over the past week, what with all the threads dissecting "what a bad person James is" and "how badly James screwed up" and "how James was a victim of higher level corruption." :tape: :o:awww: Are you going to need therapy? :hug:

atheneglaukopis
03-07-2007, 06:19 AM
If by "therapy" you mean "photos of Rafa on a surfboard," then yes. :sobbing:I'll keep an eye out on the beaches around here. :p

my0118
03-07-2007, 06:21 AM
1. Walking the other players' dogs:

http://www.jamesblaketennis.com/jb%20images/with_dog.jpg :dog:

2. Holding doggies and looking wholesome and cute: :D

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l317/crystalgrace26/james_blake_puppy_1.jpghttp://www.tennis-x.com/images/players/blake-dog.jpg :dog:
http://img2.menstennisforums.com/500/blake.jpg :dog:

:dog: :dog: :dog:

:haha: and James' emotional expression on the bottom, priceless. :haha:

atheneglaukopis
03-07-2007, 06:38 AM
Actually, if Rafa knows what's good for him he should keep an eye out himself when he's on the beaches. Especially since if he ends up on one of THOSE beaches, his bootie will get him into trouble, if you catch my meaning. :tape::tape:Your signature! :spit:

Merton
03-07-2007, 07:48 AM
James should resign for demonstrating luck of knowledge with respect to the rules guiding the resolution of ties in RR tournaments. It is like a CEO not being aware of risks facing her/his firm.

Saumon
03-07-2007, 07:54 AM
1. Walking the other players' dogs:

http://www.jamesblaketennis.com/jb%20images/with_dog.jpg :dog:

2. Holding doggies and looking wholesome and cute: :D

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l317/crystalgrace26/james_blake_puppy_1.jpghttp://www.tennis-x.com/images/players/blake-dog.jpg :dog:
http://img2.menstennisforums.com/500/blake.jpg :dog:

:dog: :dog: :dog:

does he have a dog fetish? :unsure: :bolt:

scoobs
03-07-2007, 10:05 AM
I'm not sure what his quitting would accomplish, and that's how I voted. Yes there are unanswered questions as to whether he was involved or not (and his camp say he wasn't pulling strings), and who instigated the whole fiasco, but I don't believe the fiasco is one he should carry the can for, and that's how it would look.

Some of his statements may have been unwise and in my view he approached it from the wrong angle but that's not a hanging offense. If the players want someone else, that's for them to decide. I don't see the point, though - as far as I can see the Player's Council doesn't actually *do* anything so what does it matter who's on it? I mean, Blake got involved in this fiasco, not a word has been heard from President Ljubicic...so who cares? :)

Peacemaster
03-07-2007, 11:56 AM
No, Blake should not quit and asking/wishing for him to do so seems hilarious in the days of Bush/Cheney. I think the precedent has been well established that wrongdoings, including deliberate ones, are not reason enough to lose elected office or to step down.

refero*fervens
03-07-2007, 12:09 PM
^ Otherwise de Villiers might have to leave :devil:

ATP chairman takes responsibility for Blake ruling (http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news;_ylt=As.aWgZb1m1WdnQaHvFfhdY4v7YF?slug=ap-atp-blake&prov=ap&type=lgns)

I'm not sure what his quitting would accomplish, and that's how I voted. Yes there are unanswered questions as to whether he was involved or not (and his camp say he wasn't pulling strings), and who instigated the whole fiasco, but I don't believe the fiasco is one he should carry the can for, and that's how it would look.

Some of his statements may have been unwise and in my view he approached it from the wrong angle but that's not a hanging offense. If the players want someone else, that's for them to decide. I don't see the point, though - as far as I can see the Player's Council doesn't actually *do* anything so what does it matter who's on it? I mean, Blake got involved in this fiasco, not a word has been heard from President Ljubicic...so who cares? :)

Hmm, agree. Nicely put together.

nobama
03-07-2007, 12:21 PM
I voted no. The person that needs to go is Mr Disney.

MaryWalsh
03-07-2007, 12:43 PM
I voted for step down, although what I think should happen is that the players vote to replace him.

Hopefully after this incident the players union will give serious thought as to who is representing them on the ATP council. I am hoping that LLeyton, Marat, Federer, and whoever else was involved in getting the rule-altering decision overturned will pursue the matter further.

It seems very unlikely to me that James will step down voluntarily. He should have spoken up by now about what part he played or did not play in pushing for the attempted rule-change, what he has learned from the experience, etc. I think he is being advised not to. By whom? I doubt by the players. I still see no evidence that he has given any thought to his role on the council and his responsibility to the players who elected him.

Whether he was complicit in the attempted rule-change or merely ignorant of the rules, it was conduct unbefitting a players' rep.

In politics, you can listen to your handlers who try to make you look good, or you can have some strength of character and stand up for what you think is right. As long as de Villiers is at the helm, the players need very strong representation to look our for their interests.

As far as I know, none of the reps have spoken up. I don't know if they are not inclined to do so, or if they have been advised/threatened. The way Davydenko was fined for saying something negative about a tournament makes me consider that the latter is possible. James may be under pressure, too, not to speak up. If an attempt is being made at muzzling the players, then this too needs to be dealt with as an issue before the ATP council--by strong reps who will take it head on.

What we represent here at MTF is a voice of tennis fans. I think this poll is a really good idea. We are not in a position of direct power, but I do think that "what fans want" is a factor in what ultimately happens to the sport. The more we speak up, the better. The more we think we are powerless and sit back, the worse.

It is obvious that de Villiers would like the whole Vegas incident to be looked at as a "tempest in a teacup" and die down. It was some strong players who stepped in to get his mid-tournament rule-change overturned. We fans were the beneficiaries of their strength. Both the players and the fans need reps of this caliber on the ATP council.

euroka1
03-07-2007, 01:09 PM
Yes. Apart from his failure to answer the most straightforward questions over the Korolev affair, it is clear from his recent interview
http://www.pe.com/sports/breakout/stories/PE_Sports_Local_D_blake_qa_06.40512c3.html
that he has no concern for the interests of the younger players on the tour and cannot fairly represent them.
American tennis, in his eyes, consists of him, Andy and their famous predecessors.

Experimentee
03-07-2007, 01:37 PM
Its not like he made the decision. He just had a wrong understanding of the rules, but who really does completely understand the RR rules? It is all a mess of confusion.

Action Jackson
03-07-2007, 01:42 PM
Its not like he made the decision. He just had a wrong understanding of the rules, but who really does completely understand the RR rules? It is all a mess of confusion.

Korolev, Hewitt, Safin, del Potro, Ferrero, but not the vice president of the Players Union :p

BlakeJamitis
03-07-2007, 02:07 PM
Step down over something as trivial as this. This is beyond beating a dead horse. This is like beating a 3 yr old corpse. Get on with life people!

MarieS
03-07-2007, 02:12 PM
If by "therapy" you mean "photos of Rafa on a surfboard," then yes. :sobbing:

I'll keep an eye out on the beaches around here. :p

Don't get your hopes up :sobbing:. She'll get you some blurry, blue-looking pictures and brag about them for three weeks :sobbing: :sobbing: :p.

Saumon
03-07-2007, 02:19 PM
Don't get your hopes up :sobbing:. She'll get you some blurry, blue-looking pictures and brag about them for three weeks :sobbing: :sobbing: :p.

:spit:
sorry :o

Byrd
03-07-2007, 02:25 PM
Step down over something as trivial as this. This is beyond beating a dead horse. This is like beating a 3 yr old corpse. Get on with life people!

Don't worry your boyfriends safe for now.

amierin
03-07-2007, 02:30 PM
I think he should voluntarily step down, maybe before Miami. If I'm someone he's supposed to speak for my confidence in him would be zilch right about now.

MarieS
03-07-2007, 02:38 PM
:spit:
sorry :o

:angel: :bolt:

scoobs
03-07-2007, 02:50 PM
James is still more than capable of deciding what pastries should appear in the players' lounges, which is all the council seems to do anyway.

Saumon
03-07-2007, 02:53 PM
James is still more than capable of deciding what pastries should appear in the players' lounges, which is all the council seems to do anyway.

you mean an american could have better taste in food than european players? :eek: oh wait, you're brit, nevermind :o ;)

scoobs
03-07-2007, 02:55 PM
you mean an american could have better taste in food than european players? :eek: oh wait, you're brit, nevermind :o ;)
And as such I am bridge across the two continents. Which means I'll let both American and European men walk all over me :)

embellish
03-07-2007, 02:57 PM
Yes. Apart from his failure to answer the most straightforward questions over the Korolev affair, it is clear from his recent interview
http://www.pe.com/sports/breakout/stories/PE_Sports_Local_D_blake_qa_06.40512c3.html
that he has no concern for the interests of the younger players on the tour and cannot fairly represent them.
American tennis, in his eyes, consists of him, Andy and their famous predecessors.

I don't think that interview can be used as proof of what you claim. There are no questions about younger players or representation, the topic does not even come up. As for American tennis he was asked specifically about himself and Andy. I think he made some ill advised comments during the whole affair but he's not to blame for what the media fail to ask him in interviews or how they phrase their questions.

euroka1
03-07-2007, 03:25 PM
You are quite right, but the subject of up and coming young players is not likely to be mentioned unless he finds them threatening.

I'm kind of fed up with sports jocks and their big egos these days. I must confine my attention to just watching them play!

nobama
03-07-2007, 03:28 PM
I think it's up to the other players to decide if Blake should step down or not. Perhaps they're willing to give him a break since everyone makes mistakes. It's not like there have been a series of incidents involving Blake where he acted in the wrong. Plus what does this players council do anyway? Ljubicic is President but as far as we know he was not involved at all. The only named player (outside of those playing in Vegas) who we know was somehow involved in/notified of the decision to reverse Disney's earlier decision was Federer and he's not on the players council.

Socket
03-07-2007, 03:40 PM
I agree that it's up the other players to decide if he should step down or not. But I were one of the players, I would want him to step down (which is why I voted for him to step down). He should have sided with T. Johansson, Safin, Hewitt, and Federer on this issue, putting aside his own interests. I don't think there's much doubt that Blake knew exactly where the majority of players stood on this issue, and that nobody was supporting his position. Isn't he supposed to communicating the players' views to management, as an officer of the Council? And his continued insistence, after de Villiers changed his mind, that allowing him to advance was right, is the nail in the coffin for me.

R.Federer
03-07-2007, 04:03 PM
Korolev, Hewitt, Safin, del Potro, Ferrero, but not the vice president of the Players Union :p

Yes, though Korolev also understood the rules to mean he was leaving and went to the paycheck office, and the others found out when an ATP person announced it during the match while it was being telecast.

It is no excuse -not knowing the rules, but if that was the only reason Blake thought he was going further that's one thing. It's a separate matter if he was told the rules but lobbied for an exemption.

Joyce_23
03-07-2007, 04:36 PM
I think it's pretty clear he should leave, duh. The 'mistake' he made in Vegas clearly shows that he puts his own interests above the interests of the players in general and why would a player like that sit in a Players Council where he has to speak for them all? If I were a player I would never want him representing me. He might have thought for a second that he was in the quarters because he didn't understand the rules, I'm willling to accept that crappy excuse but he lost my respect when he still defended his own point of view even after he knew he was wrong and other players told him he was out of line.

atheneglaukopis
03-07-2007, 05:30 PM
Don't get your hopes up :sobbing:. She'll get you some blurry, blue-looking pictures and brag about them for three weeks :sobbing: :sobbing: :p.They were purple! :ras: Besides, if it hadn't rained the next day, I'd have gotten you all better pictures as promised. :sad:

gulzhan
03-07-2007, 06:23 PM
Korolev, Hewitt, Safin, del Potro, Ferrero, but not the vice president of the Players Union :p

and the biggest supporter of RR ;)

I think it's up to the other players to decide if Blake should step down or not. Perhaps they're willing to give him a break since everyone makes mistakes. It's not like there have been a series of incidents involving Blake where he acted in the wrong. Plus what does this players council do anyway? Ljubicic is President but as far as we know he was not involved at all. The only named player (outside of those playing in Vegas) who we know was somehow involved in/notified of the decision to reverse Disney's earlier decision was Federer and he's not on the players council.

first, the officials (even of such a small range ;) must pay for their mistakes... at least when they were cought.. because they usually are not :lol:

second, for me that's a second time this year when blake acted not as players' rep but as a selfish jerk-- his outrage with davydenko's poor english in sydney was just a bad comedy.... however resulted in humiliating and penalizing his fellow-player....

third, it's only fed who was named for obvious reasons, but korolev said and "the other players, members of the players' council...."

so, i voted for blake to step down... but he never will... if you know any politician, big or little, who stepped down by his own free will (except for eltzin :haha:), let me know please, i'll put this case down in my rarity list...

nobama
03-07-2007, 06:53 PM
second, for me that's a second time this year when blake acted not as players' rep but as a selfish jerk-- his outrage with davydenko's poor english in sydney was just a bad comedy.... however resulted in humiliating and penalizing his fellow-player....What outrage are you talking about? He was asked about Davydenko's comments and gave his opinion. Last time I checked players are allowed to have opinions. And anyway I think a lot of people here supported Davydekno because they didn't agree with the fine and it gave them a reason to have a go at Mr Disney. Anyway I'm sure Blake's not the first player to disagree with other players over something.

DhammaTiger
03-07-2007, 06:56 PM
I voted for Blake to step down. He should because he is under too much cloud in my opinion, and that will be a way for him to regain a little credibility.

Kalliopeia
03-07-2007, 10:19 PM
Yes, though Korolev also understood the rules to mean he was leaving and went to the paycheck office, and the others found out when an ATP person announced it during the match while it was being telecast.

From what I understood, he only went to get his check because he thought James was winning...he says he understood he could go through if Del Potro retired.

Anyway as far as I'm concerned, it's almost irrelevant whether he actively lobbied for the rule change or not because what it comes down to is that he was willing to let Korolev get screwed by the ATP. That's disappointing behavior in itself for anyone, much less someone who is supposedly a player representative.

R.Federer
03-07-2007, 10:37 PM
From what I understood, he only went to get his check because he thought James was winning...he says he understood he could go through if Del Potro retired.

Anyway as far as I'm concerned, it's almost irrelevant whether he actively lobbied for the rule change or not because what it comes down to is that he was willing to let Korolev get screwed by the ATP. That's disappointing behavior in itself for anyone, much less someone who is supposedly a player representative.

Oh, I see. I thought he went to collect his winnings and leave because he saw Blake beat JMP. I misunderstood.
Although I guess I should have added JMP to that list, because he (allegedly) said that he would have completed the match had he known the technicalities of the rule.

Regardless, I am still hopeful of a statement from Blake. Maybe he learned about the technicalities only after Korolev was reinstated (I guess I am just hoping that he has not tried to screw a young kid like this).

Socket
03-07-2007, 10:46 PM
Oh, I see. I thought he went to collect his winnings and leave because he saw Blake beat JMP. I misunderstood.
Although I guess I should have added JMP to that list, because he (allegedly) said that he would have completed the match had he known the technicalities of the rule.

Regardless, I am still hopeful of a statement from Blake. Maybe he learned about the technicalities only after Korolev was reinstated (I guess I am just hoping that he has not tried to screw a young kid like this).

In his interview, Korolev said he was following the Blake-del Porto match on the internet, and left to go to the tournament office when the score was 6-1, 1-0. It was then and there that he saw del Porto and found out that he had retired.

celia
03-08-2007, 04:31 AM
as the starter of this thread, i should finally give my own opinion.

yes i voted for James' stepping down. but what i would really like to see happen is for his fellow players to put him to a Vote of Confidence. if he survives, he stays on as VP. if he loses, he steps down.

if he was the President of the Players Council, i would not wait for a vote of confidence but would support his immediate dismissal from the post. as the VP, he is (dare I say) a whole lot less important. and therefore i would be willing to allow his fellow players to determine his fate.

he should have the courage to face the opinions of his peers given that he has made a career of claiming Courage as his middle name.

my0118
03-08-2007, 08:22 AM
as the starter of this thread, i should finally give my own opinion.

yes i voted for James' stepping down. but what i would really like to see happen is for his fellow players to put him to a Vote of Confidence. if he survives, he stays on as VP. if he loses, he steps down.
if he was the President of the Players Council, i would not wait for a vote of confidence but would support his immediate dismissal from the post. as the VP, he is (dare I say) a whole lot less important. and therefore i would be willing to allow his fellow players to determine his fate.

he should have the courage to face the opinions of his peers given that he has made a career of claiming Courage as his middle name.


I agree.

And what Blake had done was truely a mistake?
well..Blake's comment after Disney put him to the quaterfinal could be regarded as a mistake, however, what Blake had complained about the rules and made someone call to Disney seemed not a mistake at all.

Burrow
03-10-2007, 01:49 PM
No he shouldn't, he had every right to be pissed off and say strong things and even that might not be true.

nina_137
03-10-2007, 02:01 PM
Don't think he needs to .. none of the other players who've condemned the ATP over this issue blamed Blake so it looks like his hands are clean as far as they are concerned. Let's see whether he is re-elected to the players council though ...;)

Broomie
03-10-2007, 02:28 PM
Funny how Ljubicic thought about stepping down whereas he isn't linked to what happened in Vegas.
On the other hand, Blake has been mute ever since. Don't you think if he had nothing to reproach himself with he would have said something by now? Like how things happened? He cannot not be aware that people are curious. Journalists must have been trying to get in touch with him.

Anyway, I voted "what exactly will his quitting accomplish?" because even if he did, it would just remove a bad VP (and that's players' business not ours, if they're happy with Blake, good for them), but the real problem is still RR.