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<>FED & RAFA "fedalopoly" [25/31 slams since 03].**Will 2011 be different?

CmonAussie
03-05-2007, 10:57 AM
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2004 French Gaston Gaudio Guillermo Coria
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2003 US Open Andy Roddick Juan Carlos Ferrero
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2003 French Juan Carlos Ferrero Martin Verkerk
2003 Australian Andre Agassi Rainer Schuettler
2002 US Open Pete Sampras Andre Agassi
2002 Wimbledon Lleyton Hewitt David Nalbandian
2002 French Albert Costa Juan Carlos Ferrero
2002 Australian Thomas Johannson Marat Safin
2001 US Open Lleyton Hewitt Pete Sampras
2001 Wimbledon Goran Ivanisevic Patrick Rafter
2001 French Gustavo Kuerten Alex Corretja
2001 Australian Andre Agassi Arnaud Clement
2000 US Open Marat Safin Pete Sampras
2000 Wimbledon Pete Sampras Patrick Rafter
2000 French Gustavo Kuerten Magnus Norman
2000 Australian Andre Agassi Yevgeny Kafelnikov
1999 US Open Andre Agassi Todd Martin
1999 Wimbledon Pete Sampras Andre Agassi
1999 French Andre Agassi Andre Medvedev
1999 Australian Yevgeny Kafelnikov Thomas Enqvist
1998 US Open Patrick Rafter Mark Philippoussis
1998 Wimbledon Pete Sampras Goran Ivanisevic
1998 French Carlos Moya Alex Corretja
1998 Australian Petr Korda Marcelo Rios
1997 US Open Patrick Rafter Greg Rusedski
1997 Wimbledon Pete Sampras Cedric Pioline
1997 French Gustavo Kuerten Sergi Bruguera
1997 Australian Pete Sampras Carlos Moya
1996 US Open Pete Sampras Michael Chang
1996 Wimbledon Richard Krajicek MaliVai Washington
1996 French Yevgeny Kafelnikov Michael Stich
1996 Australian Boris Becker Michael Chang
1995 US Open Pete Sampras Andre Agassi
1995 Wimbledon Pete Sampras Boris Becker
1995 French Thomas Muster Michael Chang
1995 Australian Andre Agassi Pete Sampras
1994 US Open Andre Agassi Michael Stich
1994 Wimbledon Pete Sampras Goran Ivanisevic
1994 French Sergi Bruguera Alberto Berasategui
1994 Australian Pete Sampras Todd Martin
1993 US Open Pete Sampras Cedric Pioline
1993 Wimbledon Pete Sampras Jim Courier
1993 French Sergi Bruguera Jim Courier
1993 Australian Jim Courier Stefan Edberg
1992 US Open Stefan Edberg Pete Sampras
1992 Wimbledon Andre Agassi Goran Ivanisevic
1992 French Jim Courier Petr Korda
1992 Australian Jim Courier Stefan Edberg
1991 US Open Stefan Edberg Jim Courier
1991 Wimbledon Michael Stich Boris Becker
1991 French Jim Courier Andre Agassi
1991 Australian Boris Becker Ivan Lendl
1990 US Open Pete Sampras Andre Agassi
1990 Wimbledon Stefan Edberg Boris Becker
1990 French Andres Gomez Andre Agassi
1990 Australian Ivan Lendl Stefan Edberg
1989 US Open Boris Becker Ivan Lendl
1989 Wimbledon Boris Becker Stefan Edberg
1989 French Michael Chang Stefan Edberg
1989 Australian Ivan Lendl Miloslav Mecir
1988 US Open Mats Wilander Ivan Lendl
1988 Wimbledon Stefan Edberg Boris Becker
1988 French Mats Wilander Henri Leconte
1988 Australian Mats Wilander Pat Cash
1987 US Open Ivan Lendl Mats Wilander
1987 Wimbledon Pat Cash Ivan Lendl
1987 French Ivan Lendl Mats Wilander
1987 Australian Stefan Edberg Pat Cash
1986 US Open Ivan Lendl Miloslav Mecir
1986 Wimbledon Boris Becker Ivan Lendl
1986 French Ivan Lendl Mikael Pernfors
1985 Australian Stefan Edberg Mats Wilander
1985 US Open Ivan Lendl John McEnroe
1985 Wimbledon Boris Becker Kevin Curren
1985 French Mats Wilander Ivan Lendl
1984 Australian Mats Wilander Kevin Curren
1984 US Open John McEnroe Ivan Lendl
1984 Wimbledon John McEnroe Jimmy Connors
1984 French Ivan Lendl John McEnroe
1983 Australian Mats Wilander Ivan Lendl
1983 US Open Jimmy Connors Ivan Lendl
1983 Wimbledon John McEnroe Chris Lewis
1983 French Yannick Noah Mats Wilander
1982 Australian Johan Kriek Steve Denton
1982 US Open Jimmy Connors Ivan Lendl
1982 Wimbledon Jimmy Connors John McEnroe
1982 French Mats Wilander Guillermo Vilas
1981 Australian Johan Kriek Steve Denton
1981 US Open John McEnroe Bjorn Borg
1981 Wimbledon John McEnroe Bjorn Borg
1981 French Bjorn Borg Ivan Lendl
1980 Australian Brian Teacher Kim Warwick
1980 US Open John McEnroe Bjorn Borg
1980 Wimbledon Bjorn Borg John McEnroe
1980 French Bjorn Borg Vitas Gerulaitis
1979 Australian Guillermo Vilas John Sadri
1979 US Open John McEnroe Vitas Gerulaitis
1979 Wimbledon Bjorn Borg Roscoe Tanner
1979 French Bjorn Borg Victor Pecci
1978 Australian Guillermo Vilas John Marks
1978 US Open Jimmy Connors Bjorn Borg
1978 Wimbledon Bjorn Borg Jimmy Connors
1978 French Bjorn Borg Guillermo Vilas
1977 Australian (Dec) Vitas Gerulaitis John Lloyd
1977 US Open Guillermo Vilas Jimmy Connors
1977 Wimbledon Bjorn Borg Jimmy Connors
1977 French Guillermo Vilas Brian Gottfried
1977 Australian (Jan) Roscoe Tanner Guillermo Vilas
1976 US Open Jimmy Connors Bjorn Borg
1976 Wimbledon Bjorn Borg Ilie Nastase
1976 French Adriano Panatta Harold Soloman
1976 Australian Mark Edmondson John Newcombe
1975 US Open Manuel Orantes Jimmy Connors
1975 Wimbledon Arthur Ashe Jimmy Connors
1975 French Bjorn Borg Guillermo Vilas
1975 Australian John Newcombe Jimmy Connors
1974 US Open Jimmy Connors Ken Rosewall
1974 Wimbledon Jimmy Connors Ken Rosewall
1974 French Bjorn Borg Manuel Orantes
1974 Australian Jimmy Connors Phil Dent
1973 US Open John Newcombe Jan Kodes
1973 Wimbledon Jan Kodes Alex Metreveli
1973 French Ilie Nastase Nikola Pilic
1973 Australian John Newcombe Onny Parun
1972 US Open Ilie Nastase Arthur Ashe
1972 Wimbledon Stan Smith Ilie Nastase
1972 French Andres Gimeno Patrick Proisy
1972 Australian Ken Rosewall Mal Anderson
1971 US Open Stan Smith Jan Kodes
1971 Wimbledon John Newcombe Stan Smith
1971 French Jan Kodes Ilie Nastase
1971 Australian Ken Rosewall Arthur Ashe
1970 US Open Ken Rosewall Tony Roche
1970 Wimbledon John Newcombe Ken Rosewall
1970 French Jan Kodes Zeljiko Franulovic
1970 Australian Arthur Ashe Dick Crealy
1969 US Open Rod Laver Tony Roche
1969 Wimbledon Rod Laver John Newcombe
1969 French Rod Laver Ken Rosewall
1969 Australian Rod Laver Andres Gimeno
1968 US Open Arthur Ashe Tom Okker
1968 Wimbledon Rod Laver Tony Roche
1968 French Ken Rosewall Rod Laver
1968 Australian Bill Bowrey Juan Gisbert
1967 US Open John Newcombe Clark Graebner
1967 Wimbledon John Newcombe Wilhelm Bungert
1967 French Roy Emerson Tony Roche
1967 Australian Roy Emerson Arthur Ashe
1966 US Open Fred Stolle John Newcombe
1966 Wimbledon Manuel Santana Dennis Ralston
1966 French Tony Roche Istvan Gulyas
1966 Australian Roy Emerson Arthur Ashe
1965 US Open Manuel Santana Cliff Drysdale
1965 Wimbledon Roy Emerson Fred Stolle
1965 French Fred Stolle Tony Roche
1965 Australian Roy Emerson Fred Stolle
1964 US Open Roy Emerson Fred Stolle
1964 Wimbledon Roy Emerson Fred Stolle
1964 French Manuel Santana Nicola Pietrangeli
1964 Australian Roy Emerson Fred Stolle
1963 US Open Rafael Osuna Frank Froehling, III
1963 Wimbledon C.R. McKinley Fred Stolle
1963 French Roy Emerson Pierre Darmon
1963 Australian Roy Emerson Ken Fletcher
1962 US Open Rod Laver Roy Emerson
1962 Wimbledon Rod Laver Martin Mulligan
1962 French Rod Laver Roy Emerson
1962 Australian Rod Laver Roy Emerson
1961 US Open Roy Emerson Rod Laver
1961 Wimbledon Rod Laver Chuck McKinley
1961 French Manuel Santana Nicola Pietrangeli
1961 Australian Roy Emerson Rod Laver
1960 US Open Neale Fraser Rod Laver
1960 Wimbledon Neale Fraser Rod Laver
1960 French Nicola Pietrangeli Luis Ayala
1960 Australian Rod Laver Neale Fraser
1959 US Open Neale Fraser Alejandro Olmedo
1959 Wimbledon Alejandro Olmedo Rod Laver
1959 French Nicola Pietrangeli Ian Vermaak
1959 Australian Alex Olmedo Neale Fraser
1958 US Open Ashley J. Cooper Malcolm J. Anderson
1958 Wimbledon Ashley J. Cooper Neale Fraser
1958 French Mervyn Rose Luis Ayala
1958 Australian Ashley J. Cooper Mal Anderson
1957 US Open Malcolm J. Anderson Ashley J. Cooper
1957 Wimbledon Lewis Hoad Ashley Cooper
1957 French Sven Davidson Herbert Flam
1957 Australian Ashley J. Cooper Neale Fraser
1956 US Open Ken Rosewall Lewis Hoad
1956 Wimbledon Lewis Hoad Ken Rosewall
1956 French Lewis Hoad Sven Davidson
1956 Australian Lewis Hoad Ken Rosewall
1955 US Open Tony Trabert Ken Rosewall
1955 Wimbledon Tony Trabert Kurt Nielsen
1955 French Tony Trabert Sven Davidson
1955 Australian Ken Rosewall Lew Hoad
1954 US Open E. Victor Seixas Jr. Rex Hartwig
1954 Wimbledon Jaroslav Drobny Ken Rosewall
1954 French Tony Trabert Sven Davidson
1954 Australian Mervyn Rose Rex Hartwig
1953 US Open Tony Trabert E. Victor Seixas, Jr.
1953 Wimbledon E. Victor Seixas Jr. Kurt Nielsen
1953 French Ken Rosewall E. Victor Seixas, Jr.
1953 Australian Ken Rosewall Mervyn Rose
1952 US Open Frank Sedgman Gardnar Mulloy
1952 Wimbledon Frank Sedgman Jaroslav Drobny
1952 French Jaroslav Drobny Frank Sedgman
1952 Australian Ken McGregor Frank Sedgman
1951 US Open Frank Sedgman E. Victor Seixas, Jr.
1951 Wimbledon R. Savitt Ken McGregor
1951 French Jaroslav Drobny Eric Sturgess
1951 Australian Dick Savitt Ken McGregor
1950 US Open Arthur Larsen Herbert Flam
1950 Wimbledon J.E. Patty Frank Sedgman
1950 French Budge Patty Jaroslav Drobny
1950 Australian Frank Sedgman Ken McGregor
1949 US Open Richard A. Gonzales Frederick Schroeder
1949 Wimbledon F.R. Schroeder Jaroslav Drobny
1949 French Frank Parker Budge Patty
1949 Australian Frank Sedgman John Bromwich
1948 US Open Richard A. Gonzales Eric W. Sturgess
1948 Wimbledon R. Falkenburg John Bromwich
1948 French Frank Parker Jaroslav Drobny
1948 Australian Adrian Quist John Bromwich
1947 US Open Jack Kramer Frank Parker
1947 Wimbledon Jack Kramer Tom P. Brown
1947 French Jozsef Asboth Eric Sturgess
1947 Australian Dinny Pails John Bromwich
1946 US Open Jack Kramer Tom Brown, Jr.
1946 Wimbledon Yvon Petra Geoff E. Brown
1946 French Marcel Bernard Jaroslav Drobny
1946 Australian John Bromwich Dinny Pails
1945 US Open Frank Parker William F. Talbert
1944 US Open Frank Parker William F. Talbert
1943 US Open Lt. Joseph R. Hunt Seaman Jack Kramer
1942 US Open Frederick R. Schroeder, Jr. Frank Parker
1941 US Open Robert Riggs Francis Kovacs, 2d
1940 US Open Donald McNeill Robert Riggs
1940 Australian Adrian Quist Jack Crawford
1939 US Open Robert Riggs S. Welby van Horn
1939 Wimbledon Robert Riggs Elwood Cooke
1939 French William McNeill Robert Riggs
1939 Australian John Bromwich Adrian Quist
1938 US Open Donald Budge C. Gene Mako
1938 Wimbledon Donald Budge Henry Austin
1938 French Donald Budge Roderik Menzel
1938 Australian Donald Budge John Bromwich
1937 US Open Donald Budge Gottfried Von Cramm
1937 Wimbledon Donald Budge Gottfried Von Cramm
1937 French Henner Henkel Henry Austin
1937 Australian Vivian McGrath John Bromwich
1936 US Open Fred Perry J. Donald Budge
1936 Wimbledon Fred Perry Gottfried Von Cramm
1936 French Gottfried Von Cramm Fred Perry
1936 Australian Adrian Quist Jack Crawford
1935 US Open Wilmer L. Allison Sidney B. Wood
1935 Wimbledon Fred Perry Gottfried Von Cramm
1935 French Fred Perry Gottfried von Cramm
1935 Australian Jack Crawford Fred Perry
1934 US Open Fred Perry Wilmer L. Allison
1934 Wimbledon Fred Perry Jack Crawford
1934 French Gottfried Von Cramm Jack Crawford
1934 Australian Fred Perry Jack Crawford
1933 US Open Fred Perry John H. Crawford
1933 Wimbledon Jack Crawford Ellsworth Vines
1933 French John Crawford Henri Cochet
1933 Australian Jack Crawford Keith Gledhill
1932 US Open H. Ellsworth Vines Henri Cochet
1932 Wimbledon H. Ellsworth Vines Henry Austin
1932 French Henri Cochet Giorgo de Stefani
1932 Australian Jack Crawford Harry Hopman
1931 US Open H. Ellsworth Vines George M. Lott, Jr.
1931 Wimbledon S.B. Wood Francis X. Shields
1931 French Jean Borotra Christian Boussus
1931 Australian Jack Crawford Harry Hopman
1930 US Open John H. Doeg Francis X. Shields
1930 Wimbledon William T. Tilden Wilmer Allison
1930 French Henri Cochet William Tilden
1930 Australian Gar Moon Harry Hopman
1929 US Open William T. Tilden Francis T. Hunter
1929 Wimbledon Henri Cochet Jean Borotra
1929 French Rene Lacoste Jean Borotra
1929 Australian John Gregory Richard Schlesinger
1928 US Open Henri Cochet Francis T. Hunter
1928 Wimbledon Rene Lacoste Henri Cochet
1928 French Henri Cochet René Lacoste
1928 Australian Jean Borotra R.Cummings
1927 US Open Rene Lacoste William T. Tilden
1927 Wimbledon Henri Cochet Jean Borotra
1927 French Rene Lacoste William Tilden
1927 Australian Gerald Patterson John Hawkes
1926 US Open Rene Lacoste Jean Borotra
1926 Wimbledon Jean Borotra Howard Kinsey
1926 French Henri Cochet René Lacoste
1926 Australian John Hawkes Jim Willard
1925 US Open William T. Tilden William M. Johnston
1925 Wimbledon Rene Lacoste Jean Borotra
1925 French Rene Lacoste Jean Borotra
1925 Australian James Anderson Gerald Patterson
1924 US Open William T. Tilden William M. Johnston
1924 Wimbledon Jean Borotra Rene Lacoste
1924 French Jean Borotra René Lacoste
1924 Australian James Anderson Richard Schlesinger
1923 US Open William T. Tilden William M. Johnston
1923 Wimbledon William M. Johnston Francis T. Hunter
1923 French Francois Blanchy Max Decugis
1923 Australian Pat O'Hara Wood C.St.John
1922 US Open William T. Tilden William M. Johnston
1922 Wimbledon Gerald Patterson Randolph Lycett
1922 French Henri Cochet Jean Samazeuilh
1922 Australian Pat O'Hara Wood Gerald Patterson
1921 US Open William T. Tilden William M. Johnston
1921 Wimbledon William T. Tilden Brian Norton
1921 French Jean Samazeuilh André Gobert
1921 Australian Rhys Gemmell A. Hedeman
1920 US Open William T. Tilden William M. Johnston
1920 Wimbledon William T. Tilden Gerald Patterson
1920 French Andre Gobert Max Decugis
1920 Australian Pat O'Hara Wood Ron Thomas
1919 US Open William M. Johnston William T. Tilden
1919 Wimbledon Gerald Patterson Norman Brookes
1919 Australian A.R.F. Kingscote E. Pockley
1918 US Open R. Lindley Murray William T. Tilden
1917 US Open R. Lindley Murray Nathaniel W. Niles
1916 US Open Richard N. Williams William M. Johnston
1915 US Open William M. Johnston Maurice E. McLoughlin
1915 Australian Francis Lowe Horace Rice
1914 US Open Richard N. Williams Maurice E. McLoughlin
1914 Wimbledon Norman Brookes Anthony Wilding
1914 French Max Decugis Jean Samazeuilh
1914 Australian Pat O'Hara Wood Gerald Patterson
1913 US Open Maurice E. McLoughlin Richard N. Williams
1913 Wimbledon Anthony Wilding Maurice McLoughlin
1913 French Max Decugis Georges Gault
1913 Australian E.F. Parker Harry Parker
1912 US Open Maurice E. McLoughlin Wallace F. Johnson
1912 Wimbledon Anthony Wilding Arthur Gore
1912 French Max Decugis André Gobert
1912 Australian Cecil Parke A. Beamish
1911 US Open William A. Larned Maurice E. McLoughlin
1911 Wimbledon Anthony Wilding H. Roper Barrett
1911 French Andre Gobert Maurice Germot
1911 Australian Norman Brookes Horace Rice
1910 US Open William A. Larned Thomas C. Bundy
1910 Wimbledon Anthony Wilding Arthur Gore
1910 French Maurice Germot François Blanchy
1910 Australian Rodney Heath Horace Rice
1909 US Open William A. Larned William J. Clothier
1909 Wimbledon Arthur Gore M.J.G. Ritchie
1909 French Max Decugis Maurice Germot
1909 Australian Tony Wilding Ernie Parker
1908 US Open William A. Larned Beals C. Wright
1908 Wimbledon Arthur Gore Roper Barrett
1908 French Max Decugis Maurice Germot
1908 Australian Fred Alexander Alfred Dunlop
1907 US Open William A. Larned Robert LeRoy
1907 Wimbledon Norman Brookes Arthur Gore
1907 French Max Decugis Robert Wallet
1907 Australian Horace Rice Harry Parker
1906 US Open William A. Larned Beals C. Wright
1906 Wimbledon Laurie Doherty Frank Riseley
1906 French Maurice Germot Max Decugis
1906 Australian Tony Wilding Harry Parker
1905 US Open Beals C. Wright Holcombe Ward
1905 Wimbledon Laurie Doherty Norman Brookes
1905 French Maurice Germot André Vacherot
1905 Australian Rodney Heath A. Curtis

buzz
03-05-2007, 12:07 PM
If you compare wim 2003 till AO 2007 fed missed 5 (10 of 15), Pete missed 7 (8 of 15) from wim 1993 till AO 1997. Borg once won 8 out of 16 slams and he didn't compete in all. So in those years fed won 25% more slams than an Sampras (borg about the same %). More impressive sounds Pete missed 40% more GS titles than Fed in those years.

CmonAussie
03-05-2007, 12:14 PM
If you compare wim 2003 till AO 2007 fed missed 5 (10 of 15), Pete missed 7 (8 of 15) from wim 1993 till AO 1997. Borg once won 8 out of 16 slams and he didn't compete in all. So in those years fed won 25% more slams than an Sampras (borg about the same %). More impressive sounds Pete missed 40% more GS titles than Fed in those years.

:wavey:
Thanks:cool:

Your analysis is very interesting;)

Dancing Hero
03-05-2007, 01:34 PM
I can't spot any cryptic patterns, Aussie :) , but we know Federer has been pretty much dominant in the Slams the past 3 years and has racked up the trophies quickly in that time. He's winning 3 out of 4 GS a year and putting together some good numbers, dominant at Wimbledon and the US. The calendar Grand Slam is very possible for him this year.

:wavey:

buzz
03-05-2007, 01:57 PM
:wavey:
Thanks:cool:

Your analysis is very interesting;)

I need to thank you for the stats!:worship: ;)

CmonAussie
08-30-2007, 11:30 AM
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Wanted to pose the question:

How long can the FED & RAFA #1, #2 show continue in the Slams???

Apart from the Safin/Hewitt 05 AO final & Gaudio/Coria 04 FO every Slam final for the last 4-years has consisted of FED & RAFA or atleast one of them!!!
What are the chances that USO 2007 will see a final where neither Fed nor Rafa appear???

stebs
08-30-2007, 11:35 AM
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Wanted to pose the question:

How long can the FED & RAFA #1, #2 show continue in the Slams???

Apart from the Safin/Hewitt 05 AO final & Gaudio/Coria 04 FO every Slam final for the last 4-years has consisted of FED & RAFA or atleast one of them!!!
What are the chances that USO 2005 will see a final where neither Fed nor Rafa appear???

0% seeing as USO '05 already happened and Federer won it.

Assuming you are referring to the '07 addition and made a simple mistake the chances seem pretty slim. However, it is always possible and certainly Nadal looks very beatable at this tournament. Federer doesn't have the toughest of draws in the latter stages with his potential QF and SF opponents players who he has beaten time and time again in the past.

CmonAussie
08-30-2007, 11:41 AM
0% seeing as USO '05 already happened and Federer won it.

Assuming you are referring to the '07 addition and made a simple mistake the chances seem pretty slim. However, it is always possible and certainly Nadal looks very beatable at this tournament. Federer doesn't have the toughest of draws in the latter stages with his potential QF and SF opponents players who he has beaten time and time again in the past.


thanks for pointing out my typo;)
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Rafa won`t make the finals due to his injury:sad: & Fed could be in for a shock with Isner up next:devil:

buzz
08-30-2007, 11:59 AM
Just noticed that Borg won the FO&WIM combo three times in succesion, Federer probably goes for an open ara record winning a combo 4 times in succesion (WIM&USO)

CmonAussie
08-30-2007, 12:04 PM
Just noticed that Borg won the FO&WIM combo three times in succesion, Federer probably goes for an open ara record winning a combo 4 times in succesion (WIM&USO)



:worship: :worship:
Excellent observation:cool:

Of course Borg was very unlucky not to get 4 FO & Wimby combos back-to-back [1981 won FO, but lost Wimby final to McEnroe];)


Federer`s on the brink of another record:angel:
Wonder if he`ll stumble at the last hurdle:confused:

MatchFederer
08-30-2007, 12:10 PM
:worship: :worship:
Excellent observation:cool:

Of course Borg was very unlucky not to get 4 FO & Wimby combos back-to-back [1981 won FO, but lost Wimby final to McEnroe];)


Federer`s on the brink of another record:angel:
Wonder if he`ll stumble at the last hurdle:confused:

How was this unlucky? It just wasn't.

Anyway, I have not found any trends that would suggest that neither Fed nor Rafe make the USO finals. However it is looking more and more likely that Rafa won't be there and Federer is getting older (though does not mean he is declining).

Oh.. BTW.

Jana? Rawlinson just won gold for herself and Australia in the 400mhurdles

CmonAussie
08-30-2007, 12:16 PM
How was this unlucky? It just wasn't.

Anyway, I have not found any trends that would suggest that neither Fed nor Rafe make the USO finals. However it is looking more and more likely that Rafa won't be there and Federer is getting older (though does not mean he is declining).

Oh.. BTW.

Jana? Rawlinson just won gold for herself and Australia in the 400mhurdles


Borg said he played he felt he was dominating McEnroe in that 81 Wimby final but he just stumbled on the big points [won the 1st set & then lost two tiebreakers]:sad:


Thanks for the update about Rawlinson~~ great to hear an Aussie winning anything in athletics:worship: :cool:

MatchFederer
08-30-2007, 12:19 PM
Yeah, but that was Borg's problem, McEnroe was just mentally stronger... there is no luck there. :shrug:

CmonAussie
08-30-2007, 03:17 PM
Yeah, but that was Borg's problem, McEnroe was just mentally stronger... there is no luck there. :shrug:


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I don`t think McEnroe was mentally stronger, check 1980 Wimby result;)
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btw I change the thread title:cool:

buzz
08-30-2007, 03:39 PM
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btw I change the thread title:cool:

:D :cool:

MatchFederer
08-30-2007, 04:07 PM
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I don`t think McEnroe was mentally stronger, check 1980 Wimby result;)
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btw I change the thread title:cool:


I meant mentally strong in THAT match.


Nice thread title change. :cool:

CmonAussie
08-30-2007, 04:34 PM
:D :cool:

yeah:wavey: , thanks for your suggestion/observation:worship: :cool:

CmonAussie
08-31-2007, 04:52 AM
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Title altered again<:)
##Will FED become the 1st man to win 4x double Slams [Wimby+USO 2004->2007]???

Marek.
08-31-2007, 05:00 AM
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I don`t think McEnroe was mentally stronger, check 1980 Wimby result;)
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btw I change the thread title:cool:

I have the 1981 final on my computer and IMO McEnroe's mental strength won him the match. He was down three or four set points in the second set and was down a break in the third but came back. He also played much better in the tie-breaks.

On the topic though it will be very difficult for Fed to do this. I'm liking his current form at the moment but I'm still taking it one match at a time.

I think next year we will see someone other than Federer/Nadal win a slam. Possibly a newcomer or a last hurrah for a former champ.

NYCtennisfan
08-31-2007, 06:01 AM
4 times with the Wimnby USO combo will be amazing. It would also mean

10 straight slam finals

3 seasons winning 3 slams in one year. 3 or more slams in a year has only been done 3 times by players other than Federer and if he can get to 3, he will own half of all the seasons where 3 slams were won.

CmonAussie
08-31-2007, 07:09 AM
4 times with the Wimnby USO combo will be amazing. It would also mean

10 straight slam finals

3 seasons winning 3 slams in one year. 3 or more slams in a year has only been done 3 times by players other than Federer and if he can get to 3, he will own half of all the seasons where 3 slams were won.


NYC mate:wavey:
Good to see you`re on top of the stats as always:cool:
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Just imagine if FED had won that 2005 AO SF~ where he had mps over Safin, he would have played Hewitt in the final, probably won, & then he`d be about to win 3/4 Slams for the 4th year in a row:worship: :devil:
Anyway it was good for Safin to win that one, though I would have preferred Lleyton;)

buzz
08-31-2007, 10:00 AM
4 times with the Wimnby USO combo will be amazing. It would also mean

10 straight slam finals

3 seasons winning 3 slams in one year. 3 or more slams in a year has only been done 3 times by players other than Federer and if he can get to 3, he will own half of all the seasons where 3 slams were won.

Yes of course 10 straight slam finals and the 3 seasons winning three slams sound more impressive(and to a lesser extinct 14 straight slam semi's!!):worship: :worship: Good you added this to, it will be a very significant win, if Fed wil win this USO!

CmonAussie
08-31-2007, 06:56 PM
Yes of course 10 straight slam finals and the 3 seasons winning three slams sound more impressive(and to a lesser extinct 14 straight slam semi's!!):worship: :worship: Good you added this to, it will be a very significant win, if Fed wil win this USO!

:cool:
Okie dokies I`m going to change this thread title for the last time, in honor of FED`s impending date with destining~~ 10 Slam finals in a row:worship:

CmonAussie
09-06-2007, 05:13 AM
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Update:

...FED`s now reached 14-straight Slam SFs [the previous record was 10 held by Lendl]<:)
...if Rogi can win his SF he`ll have 10-straight Slam Finals [previous record was 6]**

FedFan_2007
09-06-2007, 05:18 AM
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Update:

...FED`s now reached 14-straight Slam SFs [the previous record was 10 held by Lendl]<:)
...if Rogi can win his SF he`ll have 10-straight Slam Finals [previous record was 6]**

Nope. Laver made 4 in a row(1969), Agassi(4) from 1999-2000, that's 2nd best.

CmonAussie
09-06-2007, 05:37 AM
Nope. Laver made 4 in a row(1969), Agassi(4) from 1999-2000, that's 2nd best.

Don Budge made 6-in a row in the 1930s;)

1938 US Open Donald Budge C. Gene Mako
1938 Wimbledon Donald Budge Henry Austin
1938 French Donald Budge Roderik Menzel
1938 Australian Donald Budge John Bromwich
1937 US Open Donald Budge Gottfried Von Cramm
1937 Wimbledon Donald Budge Gottfried Von Cramm

Johnny Groove
09-06-2007, 05:39 AM
NYC mate:wavey:
Good to see you`re on top of the stats as always:cool:
...
Just imagine if FED had won that 2005 AO SF~ where he had mps over Safin, he would have played Hewitt in the final, probably won, & then he`d be about to win 3/4 Slams for the 4th year in a row:worship: :devil:
Anyway it was good for Safin to win that one, though I would have preferred Lleyton;)

Imagine if Nadal didnt exist as well :eek:

Rogiman
09-06-2007, 06:20 AM
Imagine if Nadal didnt exist as well :eek::drool:

buzz
09-06-2007, 08:33 AM
***
###
Update:

...FED`s now reached 14-straight Slam SFs [the previous record was 10 held by Lendl]<:)
...if Rogi can win his SF he`ll have 10-straight Slam Finals [previous record was 6]**

It feels like Roger's results are turning from impressive to unbelievable:worship:

FedFan_2007
09-06-2007, 08:34 AM
It feels like Roger's results are turning from impressive to unbelievable:worship:

They already were unbelievable once he made 6 in a row... Now it's just god-like.

jonny84
09-06-2007, 08:42 AM
I think that from next year Federer will probably not reach one of the finals of a slam (probably the French). I think with Novak coming up, he will beat Federer in the semis of one of the slams for sure.

FedFan_2007
09-06-2007, 08:46 AM
Until it happens, Fed remains the favorite to make every final.

Eden
09-06-2007, 11:37 AM
Imagine if Nadal didnt exist as well :eek:

People would claim even more that Roger has no competition ;)

Forehander
09-06-2007, 01:24 PM
stop being foolish everybody. Federer wants to play till he's 35 or something. He'll make it to every single grandslam final till then alright win or not.

bokehlicious
09-06-2007, 01:34 PM
stop being foolish everybody. Federer wants to play till he's 35 or something. He'll make it to every single grandslam final till then alright win or not.

[mediter mode on]

No glory in that, it doesn't take genie to dominate such a MM era...

[mediter mode off]

:o

barbadosan
09-06-2007, 02:58 PM
[mediter mode on]

No glory in that, it doesn't take genie to dominate such a MM era...

[mediter mode off]

:o

:haha:

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-06-2007, 03:09 PM
The only Grand Slams won by Federer which should be counted are when he beats Nadal or Djokovic in the finals.

So far he has 2.

Marek.
09-06-2007, 03:11 PM
The only Grand Slams won by Federer which should be counted are when he beats Nadal or Djokovic in the finals.

So far he has 2.

Except for those two Wimbledon finals where Nadal choked right?

FedFan_2007
09-06-2007, 03:33 PM
RFK, I know you're still smarting from that beatdown Fed gave Llegs in 2004 USO final. 6-0, 7-6, 6-0. God, that scoreline is enough to make one weep.

eskinol
09-06-2007, 03:42 PM
"how long can he keep it up??"

Isn't that between him and Mirka?

CmonAussie
09-06-2007, 07:28 PM
"how long can he keep it up??"

Isn't that between him and Mirka?


:devil:
I knew someone would see this thread from that angle;)
A lot of people wonder how he gets it up at all:eek:

jonas
09-06-2007, 07:42 PM
Don Budge made 6-in a row in the 1930s;)

1938 US Open Donald Budge C. Gene Mako
1938 Wimbledon Donald Budge Henry Austin
1938 French Donald Budge Roderik Menzel
1938 Australian Donald Budge John Bromwich
1937 US Open Donald Budge Gottfried Von Cramm
1937 Wimbledon Donald Budge Gottfried Von Cramm

Open era, dude! :rolleyes:

CmonAussie
09-06-2007, 07:47 PM
Open era, dude! :rolleyes:


so you`re making the rules now:confused:

actually making 6-straight Slam finals in the 1930s is possibly more impressive~~ Don Budge had to travel to AUS & Europe by ship, which took several months>> guess he practiced by hitting tennis balls into the sea:worship:

Stensland
09-06-2007, 07:49 PM
Don Budge had to travel to AUS & Europe by ship, which took several months>>

how did he do that anyways? there was basically no money involved or am i wrong about that? :confused:

CmonAussie
09-06-2007, 07:51 PM
how did he do that anyways? there was basically no money involved or am i wrong about that? :confused:


yeah~ no money seems hard to fathom:confused:
maybe Don Budge was smuggling drugs around the World~~ to fund his tennis voyages:devil:

CmonAussie
09-06-2007, 07:57 PM
Nope. Laver made 4 in a row(1969), Agassi(4) from 1999-2000, that's 2nd best.


as I told you Don Budge made 6-Slam Finals in a row in the 1930s [winning all 6];)
...
#also Jimmy Connors made 6-Slam Finals in a row in the 1970s,~though not inclucing the FO, because he was banned from competing in Paris @ the time;)

1975 US Open Manuel Orantes Jimmy Connors
1975 Wimbledon Arthur Ashe Jimmy Connors
1975 DNP [banned from playing]
1975 Australian John Newcombe Jimmy Connors
1974 US Open Jimmy Connors Ken Rosewall
1974 Wimbledon Jimmy Connors Ken Rosewall
1974 DNP [banned from playing]
1974 Australian Jimmy Connors Phil Dent

FedFan_2007
09-06-2007, 08:47 PM
Who cares about pre-Open Era? Back then they allowed the slam champ to automatically make the final the next year w/o playing any matches.

FedFan_2007
09-06-2007, 08:49 PM
Bottom line, Connors didn't have to play world team tennis. Roland Garros is more important. Thus no 6 in a row for Connors.

Stensland
09-06-2007, 08:49 PM
Back then they allowed the slam champ to automatically make the final the next year w/o playing any matches.

is that true?

RagingLamb
09-06-2007, 08:51 PM
is that true?

that's what I've heard as well. McEnroe said it during some wimbleon match, but I don't recall what time period that applied to. I don't think it was all of the pre open era.

Stensland
09-06-2007, 08:52 PM
that's what I've heard as well. McEnroe said it during some wimbleon match, but I don't recall what time period that applied to. I don't think it was all of the pre open era.

so if that was the case, how can people even consider letting anything pre-open-eraish count?

LeChuck
09-06-2007, 08:58 PM
is that true?

The challenge round with the reigning champion getting direct entry into the final, was used at Wimbledon from 1878-1921 , and at the US Open from 1884-1911. As far as I know it has never been used at the either of the Australian or French Opens.

Johnny Groove
09-06-2007, 09:00 PM
Who cares about pre-Open Era? Back then they allowed the slam champ to automatically make the final the next year w/o playing any matches.

That was in the early days. It was abolished by the time Budge's 1930's runs

Bottom line, Connors didn't have to play world team tennis. Roland Garros is more important. Thus no 6 in a row for Connors.

WTT? what the fuck are you talking about? :retard:

Connors was BANNED from RG, he COULD NOT PLAY. His 6 still count, i believe.

FedFan_2007
09-06-2007, 09:10 PM
Blaze - he was banned because of world team tennis. Read up.

FedFan_2007
09-06-2007, 09:10 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Connors#Career

In 1974, Connors and Riordan began filing lawsuits, eventually amounting to U.S. $10 million, against the ATP and its president Arthur Ashe for allegedly restricting Connors' freedom in the game. It started when Connors was banned from the French Open in 1974 after he had signed a contract to play World Team Tennis (WTT) for Baltimore. The ATP and the French Tennis Federation opposed WTT because it conflicted with the French Open; therefore, all entries to the French Open from WTT players were refused.

CmonAussie
09-06-2007, 11:23 PM
Who cares about pre-Open Era? Back then they allowed the slam champ to automatically make the final the next year w/o playing any matches.


That`s not true;)
The w/o to the finals only happened in Davis Cups;)

Don Budge played his way through the draws at 6-successive Slams & won them all:worship:

CmonAussie
09-08-2007, 11:12 PM
....
********************
The Slam Finals just keep rolling on for Jesus FED<:)

buzz
09-09-2007, 11:40 PM
:) Well federer just won #12. first man in open area to win a double (WIM USO) four consecutive years. Won three slams in a year three times. And won 12 of the last 18 slams.

Marek.
09-10-2007, 01:45 AM
I predict Fed loses in the QFs of AO 2008 to someone no one expected.

CyBorg
09-10-2007, 01:48 AM
Connors wouldn't have won RG if he played there. It was his worst surface and he knew it.

That being said, World Team Tennis was common and it's unfair to say that he should have skipped it in favour of the French. Borg skipped the French once to play World Team Tennis. It was nothing unusual.

CyBorg
09-10-2007, 01:48 AM
I predict Fed loses in the QFs of AO 2008 to someone no one expected.

Donald Young!!!

leng jai
11-07-2007, 12:05 PM
BUMP#

I have the feeling that either Nalbandian or Djokovic will break through to win a slam in 2008, thereby finally bring the 11-Slam duopoly of FED & RAFA to an end!! what do you guys think??


2008 U.S. Open ??
2008 Wimbledon ??
2008 French Open ??
2008 Australian ??
2007 U.S. Open Roger Federer Novak Djokovic
2007 Wimbledon Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2007 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2007 Australian Roger Federer Fernando Gonzalez
2006 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2006 Wimbledon Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2006 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2006 Australian Roger Federer Marcos Baghdatis
2005 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andre Agassi
2005 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2005 French Rafael Nadal Mariano Puerta
2005 Australian Marat Safin Lleyton Hewitt

Classic bandwagoner.

CmonAussie
11-07-2007, 12:10 PM
Classic bandwagoner.


I guess your mother never told you the wise words:"if you haven`t got anything nice to say to someone then don`t say anything at all":sad:

##
BTW, leng jai~ i`m still waiting to receive a link to one the intriguing threads you`ve come up with:rolleyes:

>>
as for bandwagoning: ~~if you go back through my old threads you`ll see that I said at the beginning of 2007 [b4 AO began] that Djokovic would win a slam this year. OK so Nole didn`t end up winning a slam this year but he did make USO final, Wimby & FO SFs & won 2 TMS events & became world #3.. tell me how many others saw that coming:p

leng jai
11-07-2007, 12:13 PM
I guess your mother never told you the wise words:"if you haven`t got anything nice to say to someone then don`t say anything at all":sad:

##
BTW, leng jai~ i`m still waiting to receive a link to one the intriguing threads you`ve come up with:rolleyes:

>>
as for bandwagoning: ~~if you go back through my old threads you`ll see that I said at the beginning of 2007 [b4 AO began] that Djokovic would win a slam this year. OK so Nole didn`t end up winning a slam this year but he did make USO final, Wimby & FO SFs & won 2 TMS events & became world #3.. tell me how many others saw that coming:p

Don't you know how to use these forums? You click on the username and it show you every thread they've ever made. I've never claimed to be making awesome threads and I'm sorry that I don't make a new one every second week.

Classic bandwagoning for Nalbandian...

CmonAussie
11-07-2007, 12:24 PM
Don't you know how to use these forums? You click on the username and it show you every thread they've ever made. I've never claimed to be making awesome threads and I'm sorry that I don't make a new one every second week.

Classic bandwagoning for Nalbandian...


;) if you go back to the thread i made about Nalbandian [..the biggest UNDERACHIEVER..etc.] you`ll see that I constantly refer to him as the 2nd greatest ballstriker of his generation;)

Fat Dave`s been widely touted as a slam winner ever since he made the final @ Wimby in 2002.
I expected him to make a breakthrough in 2003-06, but it didn`t happen:eek:
Now 2007 has ended spectacularly for the big Argie, so I simply said that Fat Dave, along with Djokovic are the 2 most likely to break FED & RAFA`s duopoly:cool:

call it what you like:devil:

Stensland
11-08-2007, 12:04 AM
i'm pretty torn when it comes to nalbandian. i agree with you on the general abilities of nalbandian, but i'm still trying to figure out his head. is he focussed this week? does he care about thta tournament? what does he feel like during those days? and so on. it seems to me as if he might get a new perspective of tennis, now that he's finally got some great titles back home (apart from tmc of course). hopefully this can open his eyes in order to give him an idea of what success is like and show him what he's able to if he actually for once puts his mind onto it, goddammit! man, that guys would've driven me crazy over the last 18 months. if i was his coach during those months i might even have come up with suicidal tendencies, seeing this guy underperforming every single day vs. a bunch of journeymen.

so, can he get a major? i think he can. if he puts some effort in winter training, he will be a contender in melbourne.

i'm not so sure about djokovic though. sure, his track record this year has been phenomenal for his age and he'll definitely get a couple of semifinals at slams. but i just don't see him taking three sets off nadal or federer at a slam. plus if nalbandian keeps up with their pace, i don't see him losing to djokovic in best-of-five either. he's working tennis way more than actually playing. sure, rada does that as well, but does djoko have the physical shape nadal has? i don't think so. will he ever have it? i highly doubt it.

so, can he win a major next year? in my opinion the chances are at 20%. the draw has to fit him well plus the big guys like roger, rafa and some others have to be out of the tournament before. and by "draw fitting him well" i mean he needs to have matches where he doesn't have to fight his way through the sets, wearing himself out for the coming rounds.

World Beater
11-08-2007, 02:13 AM
nalbandian doesn't need a nice draw to win a GS :lol:

federer and nalbandian are the only two guys who have the ability to rip through draws facing the best players in the world on HC.

CmonAussie
11-08-2007, 04:49 AM
i'm pretty torn when it comes to nalbandian. i agree with you on the general abilities of nalbandian, but i'm still trying to figure out his head. is he focussed this week? does he care about thta tournament? what does he feel like during those days? and so on. it seems to me as if he might get a new perspective of tennis, now that he's finally got some great titles back home (apart from tmc of course). hopefully this can open his eyes in order to give him an idea of what success is like and show him what he's able to if he actually for once puts his mind onto it, goddammit! man, that guys would've driven me crazy over the last 18 months. if i was his coach during those months i might even have come up with suicidal tendencies, seeing this guy underperforming every single day vs. a bunch of journeymen.

so, can he get a major? i think he can. if he puts some effort in winter training, he will be a contender in melbourne.

i'm not so sure about djokovic though. sure, his track record this year has been phenomenal for his age and he'll definitely get a couple of semifinals at slams. but i just don't see him taking three sets off nadal or federer at a slam. plus if nalbandian keeps up with their pace, i don't see him losing to djokovic in best-of-five either. he's working tennis way more than actually playing. sure, rada does that as well, but does djoko have the physical shape nadal has? i don't think so. will he ever have it? i highly doubt it.

so, can he win a major next year? in my opinion the chances are at 20%. the draw has to fit him well plus the big guys like roger, rafa and some others have to be out of the tournament before. and by "draw fitting him well" i mean he needs to have matches where he doesn't have to fight his way through the sets, wearing himself out for the coming rounds.


:wavey:
thanks for your thoughts:cool:
...
I really think somebody not named FED or RAFA is going to win AO 2008;)

***FO, Wimby & USO are more likely to follow the usual script, but AO normally gives us a few surprises, for instance ToJo in 2002 & even Safin`s 2005 win was a bit of surprise because FED was the clear favourite to win that year & @ the top of his game coming in..

Rafa, for some reason, never seems to be physically 100% @ AO time, & the new surface is likely to suit him less so than rebound ace. So I think it`s unlikely that Rafa will win AO.

Fed`s done well @ AO [winning 04, 06, 07]~ but seeing as he hasn`t been in peak form for a while now i feel that his dominance @ AO may be coming to an end [it`s easier for FED to win Wimby & USO again, because he gets adequate lead up events to build his game & confidence]..

So AO is still the wildcard~~ assuming Roger & Rafael don`t win, who are the other names most likely:
1. Nalbandian
2. Djokovic
3. Roddick
4. Murray
5. Ferrer
6. Hewitt
7. Gasquet
8. Gonzalez
9. Bagdatis
10. Blake

Long shots: Safin & Haas


...What would you list of AO favourites [excepting Rogi/Rafa] be:confused:

Tommy fan
11-19-2007, 12:31 PM
:wavey:

So AO is still the wildcard~~ assuming Roger & Rafael don`t win, who are the other names most likely:
1. Nalbandian
2. Djokovic
3. Roddick
4. Murray
5. Ferrer
6. Hewitt
7. Gasquet
8. Gonzalez
9. Bagdatis
10. Blake

Long shots: Safin & Haas


...What would you list of AO favourites [excepting Rogi/Rafa] be:confused:

Belive me, it's more likeli that Haas will win AO than Blake, Bagdathis, Hewitt or Roddick.:angel:

CmonAussie
11-19-2007, 02:16 PM
Belive me, it's more likeli that Haas will win AO than Blake, Bagdathis, Hewitt or Roddick.:angel:


Hewitt & Roddick have played in 4-slam finals each [8-total]:cool:
**how many slam finals has Haas made:confused: :p

Tommy fan
11-19-2007, 02:35 PM
Hewitt & Roddick have played in 4-slam finals each [8-total]:cool:
**how many slam finals has Haas made:confused: :p

I'm not talking about their experience, I'm talking about their current shape.
I don't know in what shape Haas will show up to AO, but I don't think Roddick will reach to a slam final again, Hewitt- who knows? and Blake??? No..

R.Federer
11-19-2007, 04:43 PM
Aussie, I didn't know this was a thread started by you because you changed your thread title style $$$%%%~~~~!!!

Don't let the naysayers get to you! I like your style. Cmon, Aussie!!!!

CmonAussie
12-04-2007, 05:18 AM
...
)'@@'(
>>>
What are the chances of somebody breaking the FED+RAFA duopoly @ the 08 AO next month???


***2008 Australian [challengers: Nalby, Pics, Djoko, Gonzo, Llegs, A.Rod, Murray]~~??
2007 U.S. Open Roger Federer
2007 Wimbledon Roger Federer
2007 French Open Rafael Nadal
2007 Australian Roger Federer
2006 U.S. Open Roger Federer
2006 Wimbledon Roger Federer
2006 French Open Rafael Nadal
2006 Australian Roger Federer
2005 U.S. Open Roger Federer
2005 Wimbledon Roger Federer
2005 French Open Rafael Nadal

stebs
12-04-2007, 02:18 PM
...
)'@@'(
>>>
What are the chances of somebody breaking the FED+RAFA duopoly @ the 08 AO next month???


***2008 Australian [challengers: Nalby, Pics, Djoko, Gonzo, Llegs, A.Rod, Murray]~~??
2007 U.S. Open Roger Federer
2007 Wimbledon Roger Federer
2007 French Open Rafael Nadal
2007 Australian Roger Federer
2006 U.S. Open Roger Federer
2006 Wimbledon Roger Federer
2006 French Open Rafael Nadal
2006 Australian Roger Federer
2005 U.S. Open Roger Federer
2005 Wimbledon Roger Federer
2005 French Open Rafael Nadal

Your list isn't bad, I would rank favourites for the Australian Open as follows:

1 - Roger Federer
2 - Novak Djokovic
3 - Rafael Nadal
4 - Andy Roddick
5 - David Nalbandian
6 - Nikolay Davydenko
7 - David Ferrer
8 - Andy Murray
9 - Lleyton Hewitt
10 - Fernando Gonzalez

Then the outsiders:

Gasquet, Berydch, Baghdatis, Robredo, Haas, Blake, Canas, Youzhny etc...

Certainly Djokovic is the best candidate for breaking the "duopoly" as you call it. He has proven himself good enough to reach a slam final and has beaten Federer, Nadal, Roddick and Nalbandian on hardcourts in the last 5 months.

CmonAussie
12-04-2007, 10:04 PM
Your list isn't bad, I would rank favourites for the Australian Open as follows:

1 - Roger Federer
2 - Novak Djokovic
3 - Rafael Nadal
4 - Andy Roddick
5 - David Nalbandian
6 - Nikolay Davydenko
7 - David Ferrer
8 - Andy Murray
9 - Lleyton Hewitt
10 - Fernando Gonzalez

Then the outsiders:

Gasquet, Berydch, Baghdatis, Robredo, Haas, Blake, Canas, Youzhny etc...

Certainly Djokovic is the best candidate for breaking the "duopoly" as you call it. He has proven himself good enough to reach a slam final and has beaten Federer, Nadal, Roddick and Nalbandian on hardcourts in the last 5 months.


:wavey:
:cool: Thanks for your list stebs:D
...
Seriously though i think Nalbandian has a much better chance than Djokovic, but we`ll see what happens;)

Johnny Groove
12-04-2007, 10:06 PM
Faves for AO 08

1. Federer
2. Djokovic
3. Nadal
4. Fit Dave
5. Roddick

General Suburbia
12-04-2007, 10:14 PM
Federer is the definite fav for AO. Nalbandian would do well if he plays as well as he did the last part of the season. Djokovic is also obviously a threat.

Not quite sure about Nadal though. And Roddick's ability to go deep will depend on how much faster the court surface will be.

RagingLamb
12-04-2007, 10:31 PM
I'd say:

Federer
Djokovic/ Nalbandian
Ferrer
Nadal

Wouldn't know how to rank Hewitt, Murray, Gasquet, etc.

CmonAussie
12-05-2007, 04:44 AM
Federer is the definite fav for AO. Nalbandian would do well if he plays as well as he did the last part of the season. Djokovic is also obviously a threat.

Not quite sure about Nadal though. And Roddick's ability to go deep will depend on how much faster the court surface will be.


:wavey:
According to some (media reports) the new plexicushion surface is actually slower than rebound ace:eek:

I guess we`ll have a better idea when TA begins the wildcard playoff tourney @ Melb Park in a couple of weeks;)

TMJordan
12-05-2007, 04:49 AM
Nalbandian will win the AO.

CmonAussie
01-12-2008, 10:51 PM
BUMP!!

***
this year`s AO may break the `duopoly`!!
>>>
FED hasn`t a chance to find his game [due to stomache virus].
&
RAFA`s ego keeps taking a pounding- see Chennai final scoreline!!

Tabledott
01-12-2008, 11:37 PM
No way, cos Roger gonna win it

Daniel
01-13-2008, 08:44 PM
No way, cos Roger gonna win it

:yeah:

Marek.
01-13-2008, 11:57 PM
I predict Fed loses in the QFs of AO 2008 to someone no one expected.

It shall happen to Eco.

buzz
01-22-2008, 03:00 PM
To Marek P. Yes losing to Blake would be very unexpected :)

So good chance tomorrow for Mighty Fed to reach his 15th slam semi!(owns the record)

buzz
01-23-2008, 10:09 AM
The Mighty one did it again 15 straight semifinals. Going for his 11th consecutive slam final.

CmonAussie
01-23-2008, 11:12 AM
The Mighty one did it again 15 straight semifinals. Going for his 11th consecutive slam final.


:wavey:
looks like Djoko is the only one who can upset the FED vs. RAFA show (possibly a 5th slam final for the #1 & #2 combo):cool::devil:

CmonAussie
01-25-2008, 12:53 PM
####################
<><><><><><><><><><>
..........................WOW, nobody expected both FED & RAFA to go down in straight sets @ the SF stage!!!
~~~~So for the first time in 3-years a player not named FED or RAFA will win a slam"@@"!

Rogiman
01-25-2008, 12:57 PM
Thanks god it's over.

Jimnik
01-25-2008, 03:52 PM
HALLELUIA! 4 years of hurt, never stopped me dreaming.

I wish I could say domination is finally at an end but history has taught us otherwise. There has almost always been a player (or two players) dominating an era and Djokovic is certainly a potential candidate the way things are going. Murray and Gasquet clearly aren't challenging for majors just yet but I'd like to think that it's mostly a confidence gap, at the moment, not a talent gap.

I would still make Nadal and Federer heavy favourites to win RG and Wimby respectively but at least, hopefully, the domination is over and won't ever come back. Maybe we'll actually have some competition for world #1 this year. One can only hope.

DDrago2
01-25-2008, 05:44 PM
Gongratulations CmonAussie, you were spot on with prediction this time

Among internet news I stumbled upon these lines on Fed-Nadal duopoly and Djoker:

"Rafael Nadal has a winning record against Federer. But the two seem to have reached a certain détente: "You rule the clay; I rule everything else." What's more, Nadal is filled with deference for Federer; and vice versa.

The dynamic between Federer and Djokovic is different. Even before Federer bristled at Djokovic's impersonations, he was noticeably tepid when speaking about his game.

Likewise, Djokovic has been outspoken about his ambitions to topple Federer and keeps the praise to a minimum. On the court, you'll notice he's not clapping Federer's winners or gushing "too good," as other players do. He's the rare player willing to stare down The Mighty Fed. And it worked Friday."

LeChuck
01-25-2008, 05:57 PM
I'm absolutely delighted that the duopoly has been ended. It's about time.

Marek.
01-25-2008, 10:43 PM
I predict Fed loses in the QFs of AO 2008 to someone no one expected.

Close enough.

ChinoRios4Ever
01-26-2008, 12:31 AM
finally :banana:

FedFan_2007
01-26-2008, 01:45 AM
11 in a row for a Duopoly will never be equalled.

arm
06-04-2008, 05:21 PM
...()....<>~~~~~~::.....{}~~~~~~~~~~`@@`......
So was AO just a blip [with Djokovic winning]?
Will Nadal & Federer continue their duopoly at the remaining slams this year?



No.

RagingLamb
06-04-2008, 06:11 PM
seems a bit too early to bump this thread

CmonAussie
06-07-2008, 01:04 AM
seems a bit too early to bump this thread

:wavey:
not too early now<> as expected we`ve got the FED vs. RAFA show in another GS final:cool:

Sunset of Age
06-07-2008, 01:23 AM
I'm absolutely delighted that the duopoly has been ended. It's about time.

:ras: :ras: :ras:... It's BAAAACCCKKKK!!!!

:lol:

CmonAussie
07-04-2008, 08:11 AM
...
...
looks like the FED vs. RAFA duopoly is fully back in the swing::: even though FED lost meekly @ FO it was still a good effort to make the final considering his glandular fever earlier this year!

RAFA has really stepped up his level & looks set to challenge FED even more than last year, when he came within a few games of pulling of the Wimby win!
...
...
if FED or RAFA win Wimby 08 they`ll continue their spectacular run>>
their streak includes:
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3/5 AO titles since 2004
4/4 FO titles since 2005
6/6 WImby titles since 2003
4/4 USO titles since 2004

Gnomey
07-04-2008, 08:30 AM
Gongratulations CmonAussie, you were spot on with prediction this time

Among internet news I stumbled upon these lines on Fed-Nadal duopoly and Djoker:

"Rafael Nadal has a winning record against Federer. But the two seem to have reached a certain détente: "You rule the clay; I rule everything else." What's more, Nadal is filled with deference for Federer; and vice versa.

The dynamic between Federer and Djokovic is different. Even before Federer bristled at Djokovic's impersonations, he was noticeably tepid when speaking about his game.

Likewise, Djokovic has been outspoken about his ambitions to topple Federer and keeps the praise to a minimum. On the court, you'll notice he's not clapping Federer's winners or gushing "too good," as other players do. He's the rare player willing to stare down The Mighty Fed. And it worked Friday."

:confused: During the US Open final last year, Djokovic applauded Fed quite a few times.

CmonAussie
07-06-2008, 04:24 PM
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FED`s putting himself under a lot of pressure~~ assuming he fails to defend Wimby>> there`s only the USO left!

CmonAussie
09-09-2008, 06:08 AM
2008 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andy Murray
2008 Wimbledon Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 Australian Novak Djokovic Jo.Wilford Tsonga
2007 U.S. Open Roger Federer Novak Djokovic
2007 Wimbledon Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2007 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2007 Australian Roger Federer Fernando Gonzalez
2006 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2006 Wimbledon Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2006 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2006 Australian Roger Federer Marcos Baghdatis
2005 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andre Agassi
2005 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2005 French Rafael Nadal Mariano Puerta
2005 Australian Marat Safin Lleyton Hewitt
2004 US Open Roger Federer Lleyton Hewitt
2004 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2004 French Gaston Gaudio Guillermo Coria
2004 Australian Roger Federer Marat Safin
2003 US Open Andy Roddick Juan Carlos Ferrero
2003 Wimbledon Roger Federer Mark Philippoussis

Synthesis
09-09-2008, 06:40 AM
Duopoly to have 2nd double-digit streak by 2010? Can the Fedal be declared GOAT?

CmonAussie
11-28-2008, 02:57 PM
...
~~!!~~
despite the improved competition from the likes of Djokovic, Murray, Davydenko, Tsonga, Simon & Del Potro >> FED & RAFA still managed to win 3/4 slams in 2008, but the winds of change are in the air!

expect both FED & RAFA to win 1 slam each in 2009, with the remaining 2 won by the chasing pack [most likely Djoko & Murray]!


AO: Murray
FO: Nadal
Wimby: Federer
USO: Djokovic

BigJohn
11-28-2008, 08:36 PM
I think at least 3 out of the 4 will be won by Fedal in 2009...

Arkulari
11-28-2008, 09:46 PM
I think at least 3 out of the 4 will be won by Fedal in 2009...

ditto :)

FedFan_2007
11-29-2008, 03:31 AM
Not so fast. Nole and Murray will have something to say about that....

njorker
11-29-2008, 03:45 AM
Not so fast. Nole and Murray will have something to say about that....

Hopefully Nole can defend his AO; Murray...I don't think he can win a Slam in 2009. Give him a year or two... ;)

Benny_Maths
11-29-2008, 04:34 AM
Not so fast. Nole and Murray will have something to say about that....

You say that but I can't help but feel that on the inside you're praying to God that Fed sweeps as many slams as possible.:D

Sunset of Age
11-29-2008, 05:48 AM
Huh. Fed-haters should really want him to pick up two slams in 2009 - the fastest way to get rid of him, eh?! ;) :o
After all, all that he wants by now is to break Sampras' slam record. :angel:

Maybe I'm mistaken, here. :angel:, again... ;)

BigJohn
11-29-2008, 04:31 PM
Hopefully Nole can defend his AO...

Hopefully he doesn't... and most likely he won't.

What exactly are the odds on that?

Fedex
11-30-2008, 04:15 AM
Huh. Fed-haters should really want him to pick up two slams in 2009 - the fastest way to get rid of him, eh?! ;) :o
After all, all that he wants by now is to break Sampras' slam record. :angel:

Maybe I'm mistaken, here. :angel:, again... ;)

I think there are still many people out there who are holding out hope that Federer doesn't break the slam record.

RagingLamb
11-30-2008, 04:40 AM
Huh. Fed-haters should really want him to pick up two slams in 2009 - the fastest way to get rid of him, eh?! ;) :o
After all, all that he wants by now is to break Sampras' slam record. :angel:

Maybe I'm mistaken, here. :angel:, again... ;)

i guess it'd be more enjoyable for people who hate him if he sticks around and doesn't win any majors.

Arkulari
11-30-2008, 08:06 AM
or if he sticks around and win a lot more GS :lol:
that would send some people into frenzy :devil:

gjr
12-02-2008, 09:38 AM
I think it's safe to beleive that Fedal will play out the FO final and probably the Wimbledon final as well. That gives them 2 of the 4.

The other 2 are a little more tricky to predict. I can see the top 4 all making the semi's at the AO and then it may come down to the draw. There's also no guantee that Fed will be No. 2 seed at the AO. Not sure if that makes a difference though :)

As for the USO, I really think Murray has a good chance in this event.

Diprosalic
12-02-2008, 11:52 AM
I think it's safe to beleive that Fedal will play out the FO final and probably the Wimbledon final as well. That gives them 2 of the 4.

pretty sure either one of them going out early in FO or Wimbly. probably fed

Sunset of Age
12-02-2008, 04:42 PM
pretty sure either one of them going out early in FO or Wimbly. probably fed

And this 'certainty' is based on... what exactly? :scratch:

Federerhingis
12-02-2008, 09:01 PM
The Fedal combo will probably still be a safe bet for either or both the Roland and Wimbly. Murray and Novak are very serious contender at both the Aussie and US Open especially.

Sunset of Age
12-03-2008, 12:16 AM
The Fedal combo will probably still be a safe bet for either or both the Roland and Wimbly. Murray and Novak are very serious contender at both the Aussie and US Open especially.

Yep, sounds sensible. Especially with Rafa (still) not being the force he is on HC as he is on grass and clay, and with Roger possibly blowing his chances because of a January 2009 Overdose Exho Money-Whoring.... :o

stebs
12-03-2008, 10:09 AM
Roger possibly blowing his chances because of a January 2009 Overdose Exho Money-Whoring.... :o

It's no secret that the exho's are just glorified practice sessions. Too many exhibition matches will not have a bearing on Federer's performance at the Australian unless he actually picks up an injury whilst playing in them.

Sunset of Age
12-03-2008, 12:11 PM
It's no secret that the exho's are just glorified practice sessions. Too many exhibition matches will not have a bearing on Federer's performance at the Australian unless he actually picks up an injury whilst playing in them.

And that's exactly why I think this is a bad idea... after Madrid where he got that back injury, he said he'd be okay again for Shanghai. Well we all saw what happened there.
He's not getting any younger, and as an 'older' player, he'll have to be more careful than in the past. Purely my own opinion of course. :)

I know, they are indeed 'glorified practice sessions', and I guess I should trust him that he and/or his team know what he's doing.

CmonAussie
01-26-2009, 01:44 AM
*""*!
...Fed, Murray, & Djoko all get into the trash talking<> loving it!
Rafa`s looking very good too!
Still hoping for a FED vs RAFA final, only because they`ve never played each other in a hardcourt slam final (only clay & grass). If it is another 1 vs 2 seed final that would further the legendary rivalry, plus interesting to see a different dynamic on hard, Fed should have the advantage but as we know Rafa`s probably mentally the strongest player out there!!

Diprosalic
01-26-2009, 07:36 AM
there is a good chance now that the duopoly continues.
and even a bigger that the threeopoly continues

Monteque
01-26-2009, 08:34 AM
Duopoly is a big chance, tour's too small for the three dominant figures.

CmonAussie
05-22-2009, 05:51 AM
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Seriously can anybody other than FED, RAFA or Djoko win FO this year?
Murray`s improved a lot but surely FO is out of his reach..
Nando has the game but does he have the mind/heart?
Ferrer & DelPo are outside chances maybe..

lurker
05-22-2009, 04:02 PM
Murray has not won a GS or even a clay court title. I seriously doubt he will even make the semis here. Ferrer is Rafa's 4th round. Ferrer is Rafa's clay pidgeon, I'm afraid. Nando is QF for Rafa, same story as Ferrer. Delpo is in Djokovic's quarter. If Djokovic loses to Delpo here, I will personally go 'kill' him myself, seeing as how that would make Fed next up for Delpo in the semis and you know, Delpo might as well not even show up against Fed.

Seriously, I don't see any contenders besides those three. And Fed: Djokovic dueling for the honor of getting to wrestle the crown from the King makes for the best possible drama that you could get from this tourney.

Arkulari
05-22-2009, 04:09 PM
the "real" match of this gs would be Roger/Djoker if they get there, but thing is, Roger might have lost to Djoker on their last two encounters, but he's a totally different animal when it comes to Slams, so I wouldn't count him out even if Djoker's clay form lately is great :)

StanisKing
05-22-2009, 04:54 PM
No, it will be another Fedal final.

Arkulari
05-22-2009, 05:08 PM
I hope another Fedal final, but Roger might have to past Djoker on his way there ;)

FedFan_2007
05-30-2009, 08:43 AM
More like Nadal = 99%, Fed = 0.5% Nole = 0.5%

FedFan_2007
05-31-2009, 05:14 PM
Yeah. :eek:

CmonAussie
06-07-2009, 04:06 PM
2009 French Open Roger Federer Robin Soderling
2009 Australian Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andy Murray
2008 Wimbledon Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 Australian Novak Djokovic Jo.Wilford Tsonga
2007 U.S. Open Roger Federer Novak Djokovic
2007 Wimbledon Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2007 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2007 Australian Roger Federer Fernando Gonzalez
2006 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2006 Wimbledon Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2006 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2006 Australian Roger Federer Marcos Baghdatis
2005 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andre Agassi
2005 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2005 French Rafael Nadal Mariano Puerta
2005 Australian Marat Safin Lleyton Hewitt
2004 US Open Roger Federer Lleyton Hewitt
2004 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2004 French Gaston Gaudio Guillermo Coria
2004 Australian Roger Federer Marat Safin
2003 US Open Andy Roddick Juan Carlos Ferrero
2003 Wimbledon Roger Federer Mark Philippoussis

Fedex
06-07-2009, 04:23 PM
Amazing, isn't it?

CmonAussie
06-08-2009, 07:53 AM
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~~~
Seriously people,, how long can Fed & Rafa keep up this record breaking 1--2 combo>domination @ the slams??
Surely Murray & Djokovic are going to get their share in the next couple of years""?

ballbasher101
06-08-2009, 08:05 AM
It is like Federer and Nadal conspire against everyone else, it is quite something is it not. People are looking to Murray,Djokovic and Del-pony to stop the Dynamic Duo. Stopping Federer at Wimbledon will take some doing, I can't see anyone taking three sets against him this year at SW19. As for the US open, we will talk about it later.

CmonAussie
06-13-2009, 02:03 AM
It is like Federer and Nadal conspire against everyone else, it is quite something is it not. People are looking to Murray,Djokovic and Del-pony to stop the Dynamic Duo. Stopping Federer at Wimbledon will take some doing, I can't see anyone taking three sets against him this year at SW19. As for the US open, we will talk about it later.

:wavey:
I don`t know I`ve got a funny feeling about Wimbledon this year> with neither Federer nor Nadal playing the lead up grass tourneys they normally do [Halle & Queens] they`re both more susceptable to surprise losses..
Murray just might get his breakthrough at a slam in a couple of weeks [his form @ Queens is impressive so far];)

Arkulari
06-13-2009, 04:31 AM
maybe at the USO, but at Wimbledon so far I don't see anyone threatening the duopoly this year :shrug:

Muzza's been playing good, but again, the Queen's field isn't THAT impressive, we have to wait how he does against the big guns in SW19 ;)

CmonAussie
06-20-2009, 09:54 AM
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Rafa`s injury is going to prevent a possible 4th successive FED--RAFA Wimby final;_;
Amazing at the start of the year we thought Federer was the one who might begin to fade away,, but then he wins Madrid, then completes career slam @ FO,, Rafa loses to Soderling & withdraws from Wimby! Pretty dramatic turn of events..

Roger`s in the box seat to win his 15th major now [6th Wimby crown]..!

finishingmove
06-20-2009, 10:44 AM
he will fail

dodo
06-20-2009, 10:51 AM
he will fail

this. except, you know, the opposite.

finishingmove
06-20-2009, 11:02 AM
this. except, you know, the opposite.

you mean everyone else will fail?

CmonAussie
07-03-2009, 02:21 PM
<<>>
(())
So now FED has a great chance to make it 21/25 slams won since 2003 with his yin & yang partner RAFA..

Arkulari
07-03-2009, 02:29 PM
well, let's see if Muzza can take this or not, it's a GREAT chance he has ;)

CmonAussie
07-06-2009, 12:21 AM
2009 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2009 French Open Roger Federer Robin Soderling
2009 Australian Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andy Murray
2008 Wimbledon Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 Australian Novak Djokovic Jo.Wilford Tsonga
2007 U.S. Open Roger Federer Novak Djokovic
2007 Wimbledon Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2007 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2007 Australian Roger Federer Fernando Gonzalez
2006 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2006 Wimbledon Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2006 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2006 Australian Roger Federer Marcos Baghdatis
2005 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andre Agassi
2005 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2005 French Rafael Nadal Mariano Puerta
2005 Australian Marat Safin Lleyton Hewitt
2004 US Open Roger Federer Lleyton Hewitt
2004 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2004 French Gaston Gaudio Guillermo Coria
2004 Australian Roger Federer Marat Safin
2003 US Open Andy Roddick Juan Carlos Ferrero
2003 Wimbledon Roger Federer Mark Philippoussis

FedFan_2007
08-17-2009, 05:14 PM
I have a feeling the duopoly continues with a 6th US Open title for Roger. He simply can't be beat at Flushing Meadows. In fact I wouldn't be shocked if he runs it to 8 in a row.

CmonAussie
08-24-2009, 07:43 AM
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......
Looks like FED will hold up his end and reach the USO final,, and RAFA is showing good signs of getting back to his top level>> but will it be enough to go all the way at the USO [prob not].. Assuming FED is in the final MUZZA & DJOKO are the next most likely to join Roger [maybe upset him] in the final""!

stebs
08-24-2009, 05:05 PM
17 of 18 slam titles won by these two. Insane really. I think in the next three years we will have a far greater variation in these.

Sunset of Age
08-24-2009, 05:10 PM
17 of 18 slam titles won by these two. Insane really. I think in the next three years we will have a far greater variation in these.

It IS insane, and the expectation that it will be different in the upcoming years would only mean a return 'back-to-normal'.
Well one thing that it has caused in the past five years is that a lot of younger tennis fans don't seem to realize how extraordinary this run indeed is - expecting every young-and-upcoming new good player to be a candidate to 'become a multiple slam winner' as I see so often. What they don't realize is how difficult it is to pick up merely ONE GS, let alone more - especially as long as These Two are still around. :worship:

FedFan_2007
08-24-2009, 06:12 PM
Karin - it's just extraordinarily difficult to win a slam right now because Fedal is very tight-fisted! Miserly in fact!

Gaudio2004
08-24-2009, 06:18 PM
It's extraordinary difficult to win any Grand Slam if you meet Federer along the way, at the current rate it's the same for AMS.

federersforehand
09-07-2009, 03:14 PM
Fed- 70
Muzza- 20
Rafa- 5
Tsonga- 3
Djokovic-2
Del Potro-1

% chances i see of each of the favourites winning

CmonAussie
09-09-2009, 04:26 AM
<<<>>>
...
didn`t think it would happen~~ but now it seems we may get another FED vs RAFA final afterall...

federersforehand
09-09-2009, 04:28 AM
1 in 4 chance of the duopoly continuing now.. lol.

CmonAussie
09-09-2009, 04:44 AM
1 in 4 chance of the duopoly continuing now.. lol.

>>or 85% if you`re being realistic:devil:

wackykid
09-09-2009, 05:26 AM
>>or 85% if you`re being realistic:devil:

to be realistic... i wouldn't even nadal reaching the finals at 85%... there are still gonzo and del potro who can be in the way -- this is not the french open and nadal is supposed not in his best form... even for federer himself i wouldn't put his chances of reaching finals at above 85%... djoko is still a threat... so i would agree more on 1 out of 4 chances...


regards,
wacky

bobrocks
09-09-2009, 05:52 AM
Still lots of roadblocks along the way for both of them, but could you imagine yet another Fed/Rafa final? It's truly amazing how these two are so dominant.
Murray's loss today just reinforces just how incredibly consistent Fed has been over the last 5 years or so.
One match away from 22 straight SF in GS.

leng jai
09-15-2009, 07:11 AM
Worst duopoly ever.

Sunset of Age
09-15-2009, 10:16 AM
Worst duopoly ever.

:lol: I know, you'd prefer the Haas & Haas duopoly. :p

CmonAussie
11-17-2009, 05:42 AM
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With FED getting the slam record & becoming father to twins, and RAFA getting injured then losing his mojo>> it certainly feels like their amazing Duopoly run might finally be over><.. what do you think??

Perhaps Djokovic & Murray will begin a new #1, #2 era of sweeping the slams next year, or we could go into another era of no dominance~ where every slam is won by someone else [similar to the Moya, Rafter, Costa, Johannson, Hewitt, JCF, Roddick days..]!

Xristos
11-28-2009, 03:56 PM
I say Yes.

Certinfy
11-28-2009, 03:56 PM
Yes.

Burrow
11-28-2009, 03:57 PM
Yes

Midnight Ninja
11-28-2009, 03:58 PM
If the last 5 months haven't shown it then I don't know what ever will.

Both the players are well rested but struggling to find form while the rest keep upping their games considerably.

Argenbrit
11-28-2009, 03:58 PM
It seems to be.

Byrd
11-28-2009, 03:59 PM
Why?, are you going to bandwagon someone else now.

Sunset of Age
11-28-2009, 04:00 PM
Not yet 'over', but surely 'in decline'. Been calling it for a couple of months already. Well, nothing lasts forever, and I'm glad to have been able to watch and enjoy every minute of it (so far?).
Still hoping for a resurrection of both come 2010. Perhaps in vain, but who knows... :)

Topspin Forehand
11-28-2009, 04:01 PM
It will be back once clay season starts. Federer is a clay court specialist nowadays.

GugaF1
11-28-2009, 04:01 PM
damn, every time Fedeer or Nadal loses at any point. You can count on a thread like this.And we are talking about years that has been going on.

Burrow
11-28-2009, 04:03 PM
It will be back once clay season starts. Federer is a clay court specialist nowadays.

And Nadal is a hardcourt specialist :rolleyes:

rocketassist
11-28-2009, 04:07 PM
If the slams start going to other players you can say yes.

Topspin Forehand
11-28-2009, 04:07 PM
And Nadal is a hardcourt specialist :rolleyes:
Who is the French Open champion? Where do Nadal and Fed meet up the most? It's clay and grass. Hard court is Fed's worst surface ever since he got more defensive and is not handling pace as well as he used to.

Arkulari
11-28-2009, 04:17 PM
people seem to expect Fedal to dominate the tour till Roger's daughters win their first Wimbledon title :lol:

nothing lasts forever and they are actually slower and not as precise as they have been in the last 5 years, it doesn't mean they aren't going to win, it just means that they won't be as dominant but until most of the slams start going to other players, they'll be right there at the top ;)

jonathancrane
11-28-2009, 04:18 PM
The Djoko-Murray era has begun
:woohoo:

Arkulari
11-28-2009, 04:19 PM
The Djoko-Del Potro era has begun
:woohoo:

fixed ;)

Burrow
11-28-2009, 04:20 PM
Who is the French Open champion? Where do Nadal and Fed meet up the most? It's clay and grass. Hard court is Fed's worst surface ever since he got more defensive and is not handling pace as well as he used to.

Sometimes you have to read between the lines, it's not all black and white.

Just because Nadal and Federer meet the most on clay doesn't make Federer a clay specialist.

He was way more convincing during The AO, Wimbledon and Us Open in reaching the final than the epic struggle at RG.

Just because he was edged out on both hardcourt slams doesn't mean he isn't better on them than he is on clay.

Midnight Ninja
11-28-2009, 04:22 PM
I don't think there's going to be any duopoly.

Murray, Del Potro and Djokovic don't have a lot between them. And I still think Nadal and Federer are capable of getting at least one of them out in slams even if they don't end up winning.

Add that Clay and Grass should still be Nadal-Federer turf and you have multiple slam winners in a year.

jonathancrane
11-28-2009, 04:29 PM
fixed ;)

No love for the ugly scot? :sad:

Sunset of Age
11-28-2009, 04:35 PM
I don't think there's going to be any duopoly.


Agree. I feel like it's back to a 'transitional era', like in the beginning of the 2000's, with a big possibility of having a 'new' #1 about every six weeks or so. I don't see any of the current crop as being able to dominate the way Fedal has been the past five years, but of course, there might be a late bloomer among them who will prove me entirely wrong. :)

Arkulari
11-28-2009, 04:40 PM
Agree. I feel like it's back to a 'transitional era', like in the beginning of the 2000's, with a big possibility of having a 'new' #1 about every six weeks or so. I don't see any of the current crop as being able to dominate the way Fedal has been the past five years, but of course, there might be a late bloomer among them who will prove me entirely wrong. :)

exactly, this is what happened after Sampras/Agassi and what will happen after Federer/Nadal

LaFuria
11-28-2009, 05:17 PM
:aparty::aparty::aparty: :banana::banana::banana: :rocker::rocker::rocker:

There won't be one or two dominant players again for a while, expect a lot of back and fourth between the top 10.

CmonAussie
02-05-2010, 02:56 AM
...
...
Seriously, how much longer can they keep this up..?
FED`s getting old(er), and RAFA`s body is breaking down)""(
...
Still i expect Nadal can/will win this year`s FO, and Roger can/will win this year`s Wimby..!!
Perhaps this years USO will signal the start of the next era [don`t expect Fed & Rafa to regularly win slams beyond 2010].. Though i could be very wrong of course^^!

bobrocks
02-05-2010, 04:55 AM
16 wins in 27 GS tourneys is amazing.
I know it has to end, but I don't want it to end.

Dini
02-05-2010, 08:28 AM
Not over yet. I think the king of Clay wants his title back and Fed I think would be favourite for Wimbledon. USOpen is anyone's.

saniapower
02-05-2010, 10:54 AM
Fedal era not over yet

JesusFederer
02-05-2010, 11:01 AM
No its not over yet, but Nadal is not keeping his end of the bargain a this point. I expect him to come back strong in teh clay season, but if he doesnt the era may just be over. Then itll be Fedpotro or something.

Persimmon
02-05-2010, 12:06 PM
I think 4 more slams for Roger and 2 more slams for Rafa. For a grand total of 28 slams for Fedal.

Sunset of Age
05-16-2010, 02:19 AM
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
VAMOS, my lovelies!!!

ossie
05-16-2010, 08:30 AM
the sad thing about roger and rafa retiring is that clowns like murray and the djoker are going to win slams when they have no business doing so

MIMIC
06-01-2010, 10:38 PM
Back to 2008 (Australian Open): Federer will not be in the final. Ball is in Nadal's court now.

EDIT: My mistake. I thought that this was about slam finals, not slam winners.

CmonAussie
06-06-2010, 04:02 PM
***
Crazy co-dominance betweeen FED & RAFA: combined they`ve won 23 slams in just 7 years.!! Mens tennis will never see the likes of this duopoly again^^!
***

2010 French Open Rafael Nadal Robin Soderling
2010 Australia Roger Feder Andy Murray
2009 U.S. Open Del Potro Roger Federer
2009 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2009 French Open Roger Federer Robin Soderling
2009 Australian Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andy Murray
2008 Wimbledon Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 Australian Novak Djokovic Jo.Wilford Tsonga
2007 U.S. Open Roger Federer Novak Djokovic
2007 Wimbledon Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2007 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2007 Australian Roger Federer Fernando Gonzalez
2006 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2006 Wimbledon Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2006 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2006 Australian Roger Federer Marcos Baghdatis
2005 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andre Agassi
2005 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2005 French Rafael Nadal Mariano Puerta
2005 Australian Marat Safin Lleyton Hewitt
2004 US Open Roger Federer Lleyton Hewitt
2004 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2004 French Gaston Gaudio Guillermo Coria
2004 Australian Roger Federer Marat Safin
2003 US Open Andy Roddick Juan Carlos Ferrero
2003 Wimbledon Roger Federer Mark Philippoussis

rafa_maniac
06-06-2010, 04:15 PM
I really thought this dominance would be over by now but at this rate I think it might at least see the year out.

Persimmon
06-06-2010, 05:11 PM
Not yet.

Priam
06-06-2010, 05:12 PM
Next one is grass. Chalk up 24?

Geo
06-06-2010, 05:21 PM
well both Federer and Nadal have shown consistent greatness at the slams. :worship:

They are lucky though that 2 of their biggest rivals haven't shown up lately. Del Potro was injured at the AO and will miss all of this year, and he's one of the few guys who can beat them both at big events :shrug: I'm not saying he would have beaten them at the AO and RG this year, but if he's healthy and in good form, JMDP is a threat for sure. The other guy, Djokovic, has been in a major slump the last 2 seasons.


Also, we know Murray is a consistent pretender, not a contender.

Soderling, Tsonga and a few others are up and down with their form.

LaFuria
06-06-2010, 05:21 PM
Got to eat my words. Props to Nadull and Fraduerer for taking advantage of such a weak year.

Persimmon
06-06-2010, 05:36 PM
It would be awesome if Fed won Wimbledon and Nadal won USO this year.

Priam
06-06-2010, 05:43 PM
Federer and Nadal are just different animals in bo5 grand slams. Mentally, physically, or whathaveyou they have the advantage.

ossie
06-06-2010, 07:22 PM
too good these two

NadalSharapova
06-20-2010, 03:38 PM
federer is over, nadal will dominate by himself for the next 3 years

ORGASMATRON
06-20-2010, 03:49 PM
imagine fed, nadal, borg and sampras in the same era :devil:

anyway i think their grip is loosening on the game, but you wouldnt think it by looking at their slam results this year so far.

ossie
06-20-2010, 05:10 PM
delpotro might just end up as the only player to beat rafa and fed in a grand slam

born_on_clay
06-20-2010, 09:10 PM
I hope for another Fedal final :D

CmonAussie
07-04-2010, 04:23 PM
2010 Wimbledon Rafael Nadal Tomas Berdych
2010 French Open Rafael Nadal Robin Soderling
2010 Australia Roger Feder Andy Murray
2009 U.S. Open Del Potro Roger Federer
2009 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2009 French Open Roger Federer Robin Soderling
2009 Australian Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andy Murray
2008 Wimbledon Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 Australian Novak Djokovic Jo.Wilford Tsonga
2007 U.S. Open Roger Federer Novak Djokovic
2007 Wimbledon Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2007 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2007 Australian Roger Federer Fernando Gonzalez
2006 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2006 Wimbledon Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2006 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2006 Australian Roger Federer Marcos Baghdatis
2005 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andre Agassi
2005 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2005 French Rafael Nadal Mariano Puerta
2005 Australian Marat Safin Lleyton Hewitt
2004 US Open Roger Federer Lleyton Hewitt
2004 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2004 French Gaston Gaudio Guillermo Coria
2004 Australian Roger Federer Marat Safin
2003 US Open Andy Roddick Juan Carlos Ferrero
2003 Wimbledon Roger Federer Mark Philippoussis

rafa_maniac
07-04-2010, 04:27 PM
These stats are even more impressive if you consider them from the time Fedal has actually existed as a duopoly, say around Miami 2005? Since then it's twelve Slams won for Federer, eight for Nadal, and a grand total of TWO, for two different players. I doubt this will ever be duplicated.

ossie
07-04-2010, 04:27 PM
rafa keeps the fedalopoly alive :worship:

zlaja777
07-04-2010, 07:48 PM
A huge, huge respect for both!!!

tennishero
07-04-2010, 11:16 PM
so in the last 5 years, only del potro and djokovic in 08 have been able to break the trend and win a slam.

M4RC
07-05-2010, 12:29 AM
If they had played in different eras them both would have ended their careers with 20 slams.

Too good these two.

Arakasi
07-05-2010, 05:29 AM
If they had played in different eras them both would have ended their careers with 20 slams.

Too good these two.

Federer has only defeated Nadal in two slams. At most Nadal's slam count would be 2 more. He would gain in other areas like weeks at #1 but his slam count wouldn't be that different.

Completely different story for Roger. He could potentially be at 22 slams.

CmonAussie
08-26-2010, 04:33 PM
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What do you guys/gals think>> can FEDAL make it 25/30 Slams won since 2003 [by claiming this year`s USO]??

Priam
08-26-2010, 05:44 PM
Only Murray stands in the way.

Persimmon
08-26-2010, 05:51 PM
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What do you guys/gals think>> can FEDAL make it 25/30 Slams won since 2003 [by claiming this year`s USO]??

Yep.

christallh24
08-26-2010, 06:07 PM
Yes. Roger is definitely going past the quarters this major.

Arkulari
08-26-2010, 09:30 PM
Yes. Roger is definitely going past the quarters this major.

jinxing? :p ;)

BigJohn
08-26-2010, 09:33 PM
Depends on Federer...

ossie
08-26-2010, 10:07 PM
as much as i like to see murray winning his first slam, i dont think he can beat rafa and fed back to back in a slam. if rafa doesnt make it to the semis and/or fed doesnt make it to the final the usopen is murrays to lose imo.

ossie
09-05-2010, 11:36 PM
chalk one up for fedal :wavey:

allpro
09-10-2010, 06:34 AM
If FED & RAFA play in the final and it goes 5-sets, they would confirm their rivalry as the greatest in history:worship:

it has already been confirmed :cool:

CmonAussie
09-13-2010, 11:33 AM
...
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Rather than FEDAL maybe it should be renamed NADERER~~ due to Nadal doing the heavy lifting from here on!!??

Apophis
09-14-2010, 08:12 PM
Winning 21 out of the last 23 between them is completely insane, including streaks of 11, 6 and now 4. Amazing how one steps in when the other is in a slump, time and time again. I see them winning another 3 in 2011.

jt1224x0
09-14-2010, 09:54 PM
2010 U.S. Open Rafael Nadal Novak Djokovic
2010 Wimbledon Rafael Nadal Tomas Berdych
2010 French Open Rafael Nadal Robin Soderling
2010 Australia Roger Feder Andy Murray
2009 U.S. Open Del Potro Roger Federer
2009 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2009 French Open Roger Federer Robin Soderling
2009 Australian Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andy Murray
2008 Wimbledon Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 Australian Novak Djokovic Jo.Wilford Tsonga
2007 U.S. Open Roger Federer Novak Djokovic
2007 Wimbledon Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2007 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2007 Australian Roger Federer Fernando Gonzalez
2006 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2006 Wimbledon Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2006 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2006 Australian Roger Federer Marcos Baghdatis
2005 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andre Agassi
2005 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2005 French Rafael Nadal Mariano Puerta
2005 Australian Marat Safin Lleyton Hewitt
2004 US Open Roger Federer Lleyton Hewitt
2004 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2004 French Gaston Gaudio Guillermo Coria
2004 Australian Roger Federer Marat Safin
2003 US Open Andy Roddick Juan Carlos Ferrero
2003 Wimbledon Roger Federer Mark Philippoussis


Wow!! since the 2004 French Open the only slam that didn't have neither Nadal or Federer in the finals is the 2005 and 2008 Australian Open

CmonAussie
02-02-2011, 08:00 AM
2011 Australian Novak Djokovic Andy Murray
2010 U.S. Open Rafael Nadal Novak Djokovic
2010 Wimbledon Rafael Nadal Tomas Berdych
2010 French Open Rafael Nadal Robin Soderling
2010 Australian Roger Federer Andy Murray
2009 U.S. Open Del Potro Roger Federer
2009 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2009 French Open Roger Federer Robin Soderling
2009 Australian Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andy Murray
2008 Wimbledon Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2008 Australian Novak Djokovic Jo.Wilford Tsonga
2007 U.S. Open Roger Federer Novak Djokovic
2007 Wimbledon Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2007 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2007 Australian Roger Federer Fernando Gonzalez
2006 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2006 Wimbledon Roger Federer Rafael Nadal
2006 French Open Rafael Nadal Roger Federer
2006 Australian Roger Federer Marcos Baghdatis
2005 U.S. Open Roger Federer Andre Agassi
2005 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2005 French Rafael Nadal Mariano Puerta
2005 Australian Marat Safin Lleyton Hewitt
2004 US Open Roger Federer Lleyton Hewitt
2004 Wimbledon Roger Federer Andy Roddick
2004 French Gaston Gaudio Guillermo Coria
2004 Australian Roger Federer Marat Safin
2003 US Open Andy Roddick Juan Carlos Ferrero
2003 Wimbledon Roger Federer Mark Philippoussis

Sri
12-13-2011, 01:19 AM
I think 2011 will be very different.

(Predates this post to early 2011) :D

Alex999
12-13-2011, 05:42 AM
It is truly amazing what Federer and Nadal have accomplished. Kudos to both of them.

MIMIC
12-13-2011, 05:50 PM
Wow. Of the two finals that featured neither Federer nor Nadal, Djokovic was in both. Interestingly enough, both were in Australia.

petar_pan
12-13-2011, 06:15 PM
Wow. Of the two finals that featured neither Federer nor Nadal, Djokovic was in both. Interestingly enough, both were in Australia.

Weak era. Ony 3 players can win a GS, in the 90's you had 15 GS's winners.

Saberq
12-13-2011, 08:48 PM
Weak era. Ony 3 players can win a GS, in the 90's you had 15 GS's winners.

weak era is when 15 people can win a GS because of the a lack of competition in SF F......winning a Slam today>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>winning a slam in the 90s

BigJohn
12-13-2011, 09:04 PM
weak era is when 15 people can win a GS because of the a lack of competition in SF F......winning a Slam today>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>winning a slam in the 90s

Could you be more completely wrong? No, you could not since something is complete or it is not. So you are completely wrong.

tripwires
12-14-2011, 12:47 AM
weak era is when 15 people can win a GS because of the a lack of competition in SF F......winning a Slam today>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>winning a slam in the 90s

Winning a slam = winning a slam. :shrug:

petar_pan
12-14-2011, 10:49 AM
weak era is when 15 people can win a GS because of the a lack of competition in SF F......winning a Slam today>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>winning a slam in the 90s

Exuse me, but you are not normal. 15 is ALOT more than 3. And when you have 15 GS winners you will have alot more of competition in final rounds when you have just 3. And when the same player in 2 GS finals beat players who don't have GS that is weak era.
Beside that, you had 25 GS's finalists. Overall 40 finalists.

Saberq
12-14-2011, 11:13 AM
weak era is when you have mugs winning slams like in the 90's ...since Fed took over that problem has been solved

petar_pan
12-14-2011, 11:35 AM
weak era is when you have mugs winning slams like in the 90's ...since Fed took over that problem has been solved

Which mugs? Becker, Courier, Sampras, Agassi, Kafelnikov, Bruguera, Muster, Kuerten, Moya, Stich, Krajicek, Edberg, Rafter, Safin? Please just one answer: are they mugs?

Saberq
12-14-2011, 12:09 PM
Which mugs? Becker, Courier, Sampras, Agassi, Kafelnikov, Bruguera, Muster, Kuerten, Moya, Stich, Krajicek, Edberg, Rafter, Safin? Please just one answer: are they mugs?

all these guys are not even in the same league as top 3 today .....

petar_pan
12-14-2011, 12:17 PM
all these guys are not even in the same league as top 3 today .....

I will not repeat: who are the mugs among of them? I need just that answer.

Is this guy a mug? He is 15th GS winner from the 90's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9DLyMp9acM

But remember, you talked about mugS (plural).


PS. "all these guys are not EVEN in the same league as top 3 today" - it's seems it's so easy to be in the same league with them by this sentence. They can't been in the same league because than they would have 30 slams and than it's impossible that others from the 90's had so many because it would be left just 10. Don't anwer on this one.

petar_pan
12-14-2011, 03:34 PM
Like i thought, you didn't reply.

ossie
12-14-2011, 06:20 PM
fedal is done

Saberq
12-14-2011, 07:12 PM
Like i thought, you didn't reply.

I have life other than this forum....you should try it

petar_pan
12-14-2011, 07:37 PM
I have life other than this forum....you should try it

You have 8 posts per day while I have 1.5 but you don't want to reply because you are one of those "who are never wrong".