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Las Vegas SF: Hewitt def. Safin 7-5, 6-1

*Viva Chile*
03-04-2007, 02:35 AM
Marat :tape: :smash: :help:

Started well breaking Hewitt's serve and I thought it will be an easy match, but then OMG... :o
Now keep the check and spending on a casino, I hope better luck you can find there :rolleyes:

... and don't get an STI please, :tape:

Deboogle!.
03-04-2007, 02:36 AM
Marat was just AWFUL :o

Young 8
03-04-2007, 02:37 AM
horrible performance for Marat

he needs a shrink and a real coach

I♥PsY@Mus!c
03-04-2007, 02:37 AM
Safin :haha:
Congrats Mr Come On. :worship: I'm very glad he broke him twice in the 2nd set and kicked him in 2! :clap2:

LLeytonRules
03-04-2007, 02:38 AM
Very nice for Hewitt.Come on!!!!!!!I thought Hewitt played well in the big points.Now win ur first tournament of the 07 season.

OddJob
03-04-2007, 02:38 AM
Really bad match from Safin :o


Hewitt was just too tough today

Consigliere
03-04-2007, 02:39 AM
onya lleyt

Billabong
03-04-2007, 02:40 AM
This is one hell of a rivalry, H2H is 6-6:banana:
Well done Lleyton, now take the title:D!!!
Marat:sad: Please stay strong, keep working man!!

~EMiLiTA~
03-04-2007, 02:40 AM
Maybe it was better I didn't have coverage of this match, judging by what ppl are saying about Marat :retard:

I'm not really a huge fan of Lleyton but I must say it's good to see him back in a final, because when he's playing well, he's good to watch...so congrats to him.

Btw who is with him there as a coach? Is Scott Draper still with him or does he have no one at the moment? I haven't been keeping up with what's going on with him..

Sean.J.S.
03-04-2007, 02:41 AM
Lleyton. :yeah:

Kill Melzer in the final!

atheneglaukopis
03-04-2007, 02:41 AM
The MTF kiss of death continues.

ChinoRios4Ever
03-04-2007, 02:43 AM
COME ON!!!!! :) now take the title

Marat :help: same for JCF, when he will win a title again?

Alonsofz
03-04-2007, 02:43 AM
Lleyton :eek:

Congrats :yeah:

MarieS
03-04-2007, 02:44 AM
Marat :help: How do you go from yesterday's performance to this? :retard: I guess way too much reading going on :lol:.

Lleyton :rocker2: :banana:.

lleytonluver2005
03-04-2007, 02:45 AM
I don't think he has a coach at the moment

Grinder
03-04-2007, 02:46 AM
Martwat is out. :woohoo:

Jlee
03-04-2007, 02:47 AM
Wow, much needed result from Hewitt.

Socket
03-04-2007, 02:55 AM
Well done, Lleyton! :yeah: Lleyton's game plan was perfect for playing Safin, and he executed well.

Lleyton is traveling with a hitting partner, but not a coach. There was some talk that he was going to hire Krajicek's old coach, but nothing seems to have come of it. It might work for him to go without a coach for a while, see what happens.

artlinkletter
03-04-2007, 02:55 AM
Hopefully this gives Lleyton some much needed confidence to take into the American hardcourt swing.

As for Marat, continues to do wonders for my blood pressure..and not in a good way.

I hope they both have strong showings at IW and Miami.

Lleyton159
03-04-2007, 03:03 AM
Lleyton is back!!

Shrinking Violet
03-04-2007, 03:11 AM
Dammit Marat - find your brain and keep it for a whole tournament please. :smash:

The Gucci one
03-04-2007, 03:11 AM
Well done Lleyton time to take the title

cmoooon!

trixtah
03-04-2007, 03:13 AM
not as bad as you think it was...Marat was hitting really well in the first set--and SHOULD have won it--but after losing a couple of important points late in the first (DAMN net cord) he self destructed and tried to hit a winner on everything in the second

aussie_stars
03-04-2007, 03:45 AM
great win Lleyton :bounce:

bad gambler
03-04-2007, 04:19 AM
Get in there Rusty

Art&Soul
03-04-2007, 04:53 AM
C'mon Leyton, good win boy :bounce: :banana:
Safin :haha:

planerider
03-04-2007, 05:05 AM
WTF happened to Marat???

atheneglaukopis
03-04-2007, 05:16 AM
WTF happened to Marat???Brain.

rmb6687
03-04-2007, 05:47 AM
The MTF kiss of death continues.

to what is this referencing?

trixtah
03-04-2007, 05:53 AM
to what is this referencing?

MTF predicted Safin, so Safin lost :( I should have voted hewitt..

atheneglaukopis
03-04-2007, 05:54 AM
to what is this referencing?Almost every time there's a "Who will win?" poll, and Marat wins the poll, Marat loses the match. This is why several of us were predicting Hewitt's win despite Marat's form against Verdasco, just based on the fact that Marat was leading in the poll.

Fedever
03-04-2007, 07:04 AM
Total F***ing meltdown by Marat!!:help: :banghead: When is he going to get it together???????:smash: He is driving me crazy!!::fiery:

Ariadne
03-04-2007, 07:24 AM
Marat why oh why can't you keep your head in the game long enough to actually win a match! :smash:...I can never be a true Marat tard, he's a heartbreaker in every sense of the word!...Hard to watch a player with that amount of talent self-destruct so quickly. :sad:

Allure
03-04-2007, 07:29 AM
Expected...what a LOSER:o :rolleyes:

aussie_fan
03-04-2007, 07:43 AM
well done lleyton, hopefully you can take the title out now.

Jaap
03-04-2007, 07:55 AM
Safin is living on past reputation, just such an average player these days.

Sean.J.S.
03-04-2007, 07:58 AM
Safin is not an average player. :rolleyes:

Daniel25
03-04-2007, 07:59 AM
That unpredictable Marat is also that thing that makes him so intruiging! Never a dull moment with him. And I totally believe he will make it in the top 20 very soon again and win a major title as well. He is just the guy of the ups and downs, but you know, he made it to the semi's...that's pretty good only Lleyton was better.
And this win is great for Lleyton as well, good for his comeback to make it to the top 10! Wish them 2 all the best!

jazar
03-04-2007, 08:27 AM
that was a bit easy in the end, but typical marat

Burrow
03-04-2007, 08:45 AM
I knew it would be like this, sort of tight first set and a run away from Hewitt. Marat get a grip.

TheBoiledEgg
03-04-2007, 08:54 AM
OAF :rolleyes: :cuckoo: :banghead:
pathetic collapse

Blue Heart24
03-04-2007, 08:55 AM
Congrats Lleyton

stebs
03-04-2007, 09:24 AM
The way he can strike the ball isn't average; it's his brain that lets him down.

This is what all his fans say after EVERY match he loses. I haven't seen this match and can't comment but I have seen some defeats of his this year and late last year. He gets outplayed when he doesn't play that well. It's not always his brain. The find your brain stuff is, for the most part, total rubbish from fans who believe that Marat can never be outplayed. He is a choker, the idea didn't come from nothing but for it to be an excuse every match he loses is such an irritation. Take the AO, he got beat because his opponent played better. End of story. Nevertheless, find the thread and the overwhelming opinion of his fans is that he couldn't "find his brain."

I know that you aren't one of these fans J'torian but to say that its his brain that lets him down is true only to a very small portion of the matches he loses. It has simply become stupid that it is always him choking when he loses.

Burrow
03-04-2007, 09:42 AM
I still believe he can make the top 10 by the end of this year.

bellascarlett
03-04-2007, 10:08 AM
Marat...:o Can you say self destruct? :rolleyes:

At 27, you'd think he'd stop being a big baby whenever things don't go his way. It's getting old...Marat, get it together please!

And he was playing really well in the first set. Just needed to concentrate and fight a bit harder in the second.

Naide
03-04-2007, 10:14 AM
:sobbing: marat stop choking

Gulliver
03-04-2007, 10:24 AM
Safin's got 2 GS and 5 TMS and 15 titles in all, the last one in 2005 which is now over 2 years ago. Not a bad achievement for any player. He's fought back twice from injury and is now hovering around the top 20 - 30.

IMO he's plateaued, his best years are behind him, and it's only in DC ties that he will focus and show some of the old brilliance, and, occasionally in an odd match here and there, but nothing to say he's on a roll towards a title, and the top 10.

Time is no longer on his side, and other players are surpassing him. Sad, but, hey, that's life. Just remember the good times, and don't waste energy with "if only.....".

sarciness
03-04-2007, 10:25 AM
I predicted Hewitt in 3... but anyhow, I'm still pleased! Go Hewitt!

Safin is a serious headcase. :rolleyes:

MariaV
03-04-2007, 10:47 AM
Take the AO, he got beat because his opponent played better. End of story. Nevertheless, find the thread and the overwhelming opinion of his fans is that he couldn't "find his brain."

I know that you aren't one of these fans J'torian but to say that its his brain that lets him down is true only to a very small portion of the matches he loses. It has simply become stupid that it is always him choking when he loses.

You know you're right but you cannot imagine how painful it is for a true Marat fan to watch the matches when he gets outplayed and simply plays badly. It's simply too painful for me to watch since last year. AO matches this year were the first time I didn't even watch the matches to the end, it was just too painful.

tcorinna
03-04-2007, 11:31 AM
I still believe he can make the top 10 by the end of this year.

I hope the same thing ... Contrary to some opinions here I realy think he was more mature in his game, while I was watching the match (at 4 a.m.) this was exactly at what I was thinking. He needs not to make soo many unforced errors ... this was why he lost the firs set... the second set is an other story because I also think that he kind of give up :(

I realy think that if he is going to win one tournment then he will gain more confidence and start being a threat to everyone and win again :)... He just needs to break the ice :)

better luck next time MARAT:wavey:

Neely
03-04-2007, 11:37 AM
Congrats Lleyton! :rocker2:
:hatoff: Marat

Andre'sNo1Fan
03-04-2007, 11:50 AM
Marat :tape: :smash: :help:

Started well breaking Hewitt's serve and I thought it will be an easy match, but then OMG... :o

:haha: Since when does Marat do anything easily? Too bad he lost it yet again. Good to see Lleyton winning again though.

stebs
03-04-2007, 12:01 PM
You know you're right but you cannot imagine how painful it is for a true Marat fan to watch the matches when he gets outplayed and simply plays badly. It's simply too painful for me to watch since last year. AO matches this year were the first time I didn't even watch the matches to the end, it was just too painful.

I can understand completely why this is the case. His injuries in his career have held him back much as injuries do the same to many players. It is a shame for Safin and his fans that he got hurt when he was playing great tennis and truth be told I don't think he will hit those heights again. I am not his fan but I appreciate the quality of tennis he can produce and his backhand is a very nice stroke. It's hard to see a top quality player being beaten by *bad players.

* - I am not referring to Hewitt in this instance, he is far from a 'bad player'.

Langers
03-04-2007, 12:05 PM
LLEYTON!!! :worship: :worship: :worship:

I noticed he's hitting the ball deeper, great signs. :yeah:

AnnaK_4ever
03-04-2007, 01:26 PM
Safin is living on past reputation, just such an average player these days.

Safin is not an average player. :rolleyes:

He is.
But most of Marat's fans can't accept this fact. Knee injury turned him into solid Top-50 player, an average (though not bad) player. He is slow, takes the ball late and gets outplayed each time he faces a worth opponent.
It's sad but it's true.

P.S.
C'mon Lleyton! Win this title!

sawan66278
03-04-2007, 01:35 PM
I hate to say it. I love Marat's ability, but the man is simply a mental midget. A good example of this is his use of challenges. Challenging an out ball at 15-15 all in the beginning of the second set?:retard: :retard: Sheer and utter stupidity and madness.

What a waste of talent...a shame...

Socket
03-04-2007, 01:43 PM
I hate to say it. I love Marat's ability, but the man is simply a mental midget. A good example of this is his use of challenges. Challenging an out ball at 15-15 all in the beginning of the second set?:retard: :retard: Sheer and utter stupidity and madness.

What a waste of talent...a shame...

Yeah, that challenge was just cringe-worthy. All it did was tell Lleyton that his strategy of slowly driving Marat insane was working.

Daniel25
03-04-2007, 01:49 PM
I am happy foor Lleyton but sad for Marat. Two of my favourite guys on the tour.
Marat was horrible in the second set, but you know, next time he will play great. (and horrible again after that ;) )

***Daniela86***
03-04-2007, 01:51 PM
Marat :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

Denise
03-04-2007, 01:57 PM
Maratttttttttt :crying2::crying2:

musefanatic
03-04-2007, 02:03 PM
Well done lley Lley, i bet Sandra's upset though :p :hug:

Clara Bow
03-04-2007, 02:15 PM
Hope Lleyton takes the title. :)

tennisrocks123
03-04-2007, 03:51 PM
bet Lleyton wishes he could have changed this result with 2005 aus open final. i thought Safin had a good chance to win the las vegas tourney

Exodus
03-04-2007, 04:02 PM
Safin's got 2 GS and 5 TMS and 15 titles in all, the last one in 2005 which is now over 2 years ago. Not a bad achievement for any player. He's fought back twice from injury and is now hovering around the top 20 - 30.

IMO he's plateaued, his best years are behind him, and it's only in DC ties that he will focus and show some of the old brilliance, and, occasionally in an odd match here and there, but nothing to say he's on a roll towards a title, and the top 10.

Time is no longer on his side, and other players are surpassing him. Sad, but, hey, that's life. Just remember the good times, and don't waste energy with "if only.....".


maybe you are right but safin is still going to be my fav. player no matter what

almouchie
03-04-2007, 04:16 PM
both players way off their normal form

whats happening to safin
he should have won that match
whats their head to head
hewitt plays merlzer in final after taking out youg & talented russian korolev

Hip-And-Happenin
03-04-2007, 04:30 PM
Marat :help: :rolleyes: :sobbing: :smash: :retard:
Get some motivation and a coach!

azinna
03-04-2007, 04:42 PM
Marat is just a big, 27-year old :baby: . And he needs to find a sitter (aka coach) soon. I admire his attempt to go it alone for a while and see if he can internalize his dedication to tennis and training. But no one should really expect him to perform his best without that professional sitter/nanny. There were several moments in the 2nd set when I said to myself: "You're kidding me, right. What. You think you're 17 again?" His 19-year old friend (Korolev) came into the broadcasting booth and was able to see this. I think Marat knew himself. But was too much of a baby to stop the tantrum.

The 1st set was fine. Sort of. He played a very loose game after breaking Hewitt to start the match. And he didn't know what to do during the big points. In general, he needed to continue with that level of patience and constistency, add several short angled shots (instead of simply hitting hard and deep), and take advantage of his strangely high rate of success at net (Hewitt wasn't able to get any of his passing shots low). But that requires strategy and insight on his part.....

Hewitt was quite good. His game, strategy and execution are right now perfect against big-hitters lacking variety, strategy, patience and confidence. The defense is back to being maddening. I like that he's comfortable with the sting he's added to his serve and forehand. And I hope he wins the final, gets things going, gets his fire back and bloody gets back into the Top 8 where he belongs....

Raquel
03-04-2007, 04:49 PM
Well done Lleyton :woohoo:

Take the title :yeah:

GlennMirnyi
03-04-2007, 05:17 PM
Then people call him unlucky... :rolleyes: The guy couldn't care less about his carreer. :retard:

Corey Feldman
03-04-2007, 05:23 PM
If Hewitt finds his best tennis, he's a better player than Safin, simple.
not that any of them are near that level yet.

Burrow
03-04-2007, 05:28 PM
If Safin finds his best tennis, he is better than hewitt at his best. Simple.

Corey Feldman
03-04-2007, 05:56 PM
rubbish, he would be counter punched to death

MarieS
03-04-2007, 06:08 PM
Then people call him unlucky... :rolleyes: The guy couldn't care less about his carreer. :retard:
You seem to have some insider information about him that the rest of us don't. Care to share? :D

rubbish, he would be counter punched to death

:rolls: If you go by that, Hewitt at his best is better than any other player out there.

trixtah
03-04-2007, 06:08 PM
Then people call him unlucky... :rolleyes: The guy couldn't care less about his carreer. :retard:

says someone who obviously has never read a Marat interview

edit: beaten by seconds!!

GlennMirnyi
03-04-2007, 09:12 PM
You seem to have some insider information about him that the rest of us don't. Care to share? :D


says someone who obviously has never read a Marat interview

edit: beaten by seconds!!

I don't care about what he says. I'm talking about a guy that goes on court, sees that can't win against a player in way A and keep doing that until losing the first set. Then throws the towel, easy as that.

Safin_Lova
03-04-2007, 09:16 PM
Whats all this negativity I read about marat??
Guys please get a grip, and stop predicting things about marats career. Whats this about his best years being behind him?
Just because someone is struggling temporarily does not mean he canot be a good player anymore. I have seen him come out form some very sticky situations in his career, and I am very proud of him for that. I am also proud that he has not given up already, and retired, that shows alot of mental strength. And whats this about him always loosing to worthy opponents? If I recall doesnt he play his best against the better players and loose to the qualifiers. I really admire his strength and courage, because over the past year he has lost so many close matches to good players that he should have won, that shows something doesnt it? It shows that even when he is not in good form he still has chances to win.
I think you guys should stop crtisizing him every time he looses, and think about what you guys would do in his situation right know.
I am sorry about the long rant, but some comments in this thread really irritated me.

stebs
03-04-2007, 09:17 PM
:rolls: If you go by that, Hewitt at his best is better than any other player out there.

Maybe a while ago this may have been true. Nowadays Safin at his best is a top 10 player but only just. He isn't what he used to be and that's the harsh reality of it.

GlennMirnyi
03-04-2007, 09:43 PM
Whats all this negativity I read about marat??
Guys please get a grip, and stop predicting things about marats career. Whats this about his best years being behind him?
Just because someone is struggling temporarily does not mean he canot be a good player anymore. I have seen him come out form some very sticky situations in his career, and I am very proud of him for that. I am also proud that he has not given up already, and retired, that shows alot of mental strength. And whats this about him always loosing to worthy opponents? If I recall doesnt he play his best against the better players and loose to the qualifiers. I really admire his strength and courage, because over the past year he has lost so many close matches to good players that he should have won, that shows something doesnt it? It shows that even when he is not in good form he still has chances to win.
I think you guys should stop crtisizing him every time he looses, and think about what you guys would do in his situation right know.
I am sorry about the long rant, but some comments in this thread really irritated me.

:haha:

Reading Safin and mental strength in the same sentence is surreal. :haha: :haha:

Safin_Lova
03-04-2007, 09:48 PM
:haha:

Reading Safin and mental strength in the same sentence is surreal. :haha: :haha:

I love the sarcasm!!
Very funny, but he does have SOME mental strength. I must admit, he is not a full on headcase, come on, think of his record in five set matches, that has to count for something doesn't it?

MarieS
03-04-2007, 10:00 PM
I don't care about what he says. I'm talking about a guy that goes on court, sees that can't win against a player in way A and keep doing that until losing the first set. Then throws the towel, easy as that.
I don't care what he says either. :shrug: Most of what he says in interviews is pure BS, ie what he thinks people expect him to say...I'm just saying that's a rather unfair characterization of his attitude toward his career. He's still out there trying, isn't he?


I really admire his strength and courage, because over the past year he has lost so many close matches to good players that he should have won, that shows something doesnt it? It shows that even when he is not in good form he still has chances to win.
.

You should relax. You are a fan, most people here aren't. So naturally, you're going to believe in him while others don't :shrug:. And he is NOT strong or courageous, he's just playing tennis.

Maybe a while ago this may have been true. Nowadays Safin at his best is a top 10 player but only just. He isn't what he used to be and that's the harsh reality of it.

I'll agree with that. He's 27, nobody's discovering America when they say that he isn't the player he used to be :shrug:. He might still pull an Agassi on us but that's highly unlikely. I guess I just wish people were less dismissive of the potential he once had and some of the things that he actually did with it :o.

Safin_Lova
03-04-2007, 10:12 PM
And he is NOT strong or courageous, he's just playing tennis.


Before saying he is not strong and courageous, I think you should re think that. He is strong and courageous for having the guts and determination to continiue playing tennis right know and totally embarrasing himself in some matches. Instead he goes out there and is fighting and thinking postivelty that things will get better. Thats what strength and courage is. And I know some people dont like him , particualrly in this thread, I have nothing against them, they have a right as tennis fans to like and dislike whoever they want.

GlennMirnyi
03-04-2007, 10:17 PM
I love the sarcasm!!
Very funny, but he does have SOME mental strength. I must admit, he is not a full on headcase, come on, think of his record in five set matches, that has to count for something doesn't it?

Berdych never lost a match going to a fifth set. He must probably be the most stable player on tour, mentally. :rolleyes:
Most players respect him too much nowadays.

I don't care what he says either. :shrug: Most of what he says in interviews is pure BS, ie what he thinks people expect him to say...I'm just saying that's a rather unfair characterization of his attitude toward his career. He's still out there trying, isn't he?


Yeah, so are many other players, but his attitude on court is of a teenager.

Safin_Lova
03-04-2007, 10:22 PM
[QUOTE=GlennMirnyi;4979864]Berdych never lost a match going to a fifth set. He must probably be the most stable player on tour, mentally. :rolleyes:
Most players respect him too much nowadays.



Yeah but Berdych hasnt won a grand slam at twenty years old has he? or maybe he already has and I just havn't read it :rolleyes: .
Anyway I dont want to argue with people today, I think the point is clear already, I have better things to do than argue things that have already been proven by statistics and titles won. And no one said he was the most stable player either. I dont want to get into arguments with anyone, so I will end the conversation.

MarieS
03-04-2007, 10:29 PM
Yeah, so are many other players, but his attitude on court is of a teenager.
But you don't accuse "many other" players of indifference, do you? And teenager attitude=doesn't care about his career? Since when?

tcorinna
03-04-2007, 10:29 PM
[QUOTE=GlennMirnyi;4979864]Berdych never lost a match going to a fifth set. He must probably be the most stable player on tour, mentally. :rolleyes:
Most players respect him too much nowadays.



Yeah but Berdych hasnt won a grand slam at twenty years old has he? or maybe he already has and I just havn't read it :rolleyes: .
Anyway I dont want to argue with people today, I think the point is clear already, I have better things to do than argue things that have already been proven by statistics and titles won. And no one said he was the most stable player either. I dont want to get into arguments with anyone, so I will end the conversation.


I realy think that Marat haven't told his last word in tennis ... He is going to amaze evrybody ... real soon ... till then I'm going to enjoy seeing him play with every chance that I got (even if it means that I will stay up all night)...

GOODLUCK MARAT SAFIN :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2:

atheneglaukopis
03-04-2007, 10:39 PM
On Safin's career: his best years are behind him in the sense that he will probably never play at the USO 00 or AO 05 level again. And. That's. OKAY. He's done it, and he has the right to be proud of it. I do not believe it is the case that he will never play really well or accomplish anything again. Someday that day will come, but I don't believe it has yet.

On the match: Safin losing to Hewitt should not be a surprise to anyone, given the head-to-head, and given their recent form (neither of them at their best) I was fully expecting Safin to be outplayed. Which, by all accounts, was what happened in the first set. What required explanation was the score in the second set. He was probably going to be outplayed anyway, and he couldn't choke (pay attention, people) because he was never in a position to win. But, again from all accounts, he let himself get frustrated, lost his concentration, and played quite badly. That is what we are calling mental. He is free to lose, but it would be nice if he had gone down with more of a fight. (Yes, it's a MM, but it was a chance to end the title drought.) And we his fans are allowed to 1) not be remotely surprised he went mental, 2) criticize him for it, and 3) still support him and hope for better days (and 4--see who takes the bait with statements like "Safin is da bestest EVAH" and "Safin is going to do the Grand Slam this year!" and "Safin is the only player ever to have been injured!" :devil:)

GlennMirnyi
03-04-2007, 10:42 PM
[QUOTE=GlennMirnyi;4979864]Berdych never lost a match going to a fifth set. He must probably be the most stable player on tour, mentally. :rolleyes:
Most players respect him too much nowadays.

Yeah but Berdych hasnt won a grand slam at twenty years old has he? or maybe he already has and I just havn't read it :rolleyes: .
Anyway I dont want to argue with people today, I think the point is clear already, I have better things to do than argue things that have already been proven by statistics and titles won. And no one said he was the most stable player either. I dont want to get into arguments with anyone, so I will end the conversation.

But you don't accuse "many other" players of indifference, do you? And teenager attitude=doesn't care about his career? Since when?

Well, compare him with Guga, that has a much serious issue is still trying, not acting like a baby when losing and giving up after losing first sets.

BlakeorHenman
03-05-2007, 02:50 AM
We're talking about a guy who beat the two best players of all time in their primes, but did it 5 years apart with not a lot of results inbetween. He may not ever be number on again, but that's cause he will always run hot or cold. I expect one more GS from him before he retires, and he should be back in the top ten in the next 8-9 months.

trixtah
03-05-2007, 03:07 AM
It's easy for Glenn to talk while he's behind a computer screen and probably has never played a tennis match in his life seeing as how he's making so pretty bad assumptions about players and the game in general

drf716
03-05-2007, 03:11 AM
quarters in san jose, semis in tc, finals in next tournament i hope or win it would be better

Corey Feldman
03-05-2007, 03:01 PM
:rolls: If you go by that, Hewitt at his best is better than any other player out there.Not quite, the difference is Safin doesnt have good mentality when someone like Hewitt gets alot of the balls back.... Safin knows only two gears, hard then harder, he loses patience.

I like Marat and no doubt he can play at least one perfect match every 5 years :rolls: , but too often he is an unstable guy if you ask me, like someone posted earlier... the mind of a teenage brat.
could not be more different to the mind of Hewitt in his prime.

he was lucky Hewitt was more dead tired than him in that AO 2005 F, after Fed handed him the Semi final win.

MarieS
03-05-2007, 03:18 PM
he was lucky Hewitt was more dead tired than him in that AO 2005 F, after Fed handed him the Semi final win.

he was LUCKY than hewitt was MORE tired? Are you serious? Yeah, 2 hours against Roddick is more tiring than almost 5 against Fed. Absolutely.
and fed HANDED him the win? Well, that's a new one. I really hope you didn't watch the match, and if you did, and you still think that, that's a damn shame because it was probably one of the best matches of the decade, with both players trying as hard as they could to win. Fed doesn't just give away matches in slams, hello?

Corey Feldman
03-05-2007, 03:21 PM
So, i take it you didnt agree with me then?

:angel:

MarieS
03-05-2007, 03:23 PM
So, i take it you didnt agree with me then?

:angel:

:confused: When did I say I didn't agree with you? :rolleyes: :mad:

:angel:

Corey Feldman
03-05-2007, 03:30 PM
Saf was lucky v Fed!
cmon.... Fed blew *5-2 and *6-5 in a fourth set TB when two sets to one up, by serving like a twat.

gusman890
03-05-2007, 03:36 PM
Hewitt :yeah:

Safin...:mad:

Norrage
03-05-2007, 07:19 PM
he was LUCKY than hewitt was MORE tired? Are you serious? Yeah, 2 hours against Roddick is more tiring than almost 5 against Fed. Absolutely.
and fed HANDED him the win? Well, that's a new one. I really hope you didn't watch the match, and if you did, and you still think that, that's a damn shame because it was probably one of the best matches of the decade, with both players trying as hard as they could to win. Fed doesn't just give away matches in slams, hello?
Lleyton played like long 5 or 4 set matches from the 3rd round till the final while being injured. He was totally wasted in the final. Safin was topfit, and deserved to be there because of beating Fed and probably would have beaten lleyton even if Lleyton was more fit...but get your facts a bit straightened out.

Saumon
03-05-2007, 07:28 PM
Saf was lucky v Fed!
cmon.... Fed blew *5-2 and *6-5 in a fourth set TB when two sets to one up, by serving like a twat.

Fed was lucky that Saf was dead tired in 2004 ;)

Joy Mora
03-05-2007, 07:28 PM
Saf was lucky v Fed!
cmon.... Fed blew *5-2 and *6-5 in a fourth set TB when two sets to one up, by serving like a twat.

I love it that ppl here still have a sense of humour. :haha: A bit :retard:ed for my taste, but hey, you make me laugh! :yeah:

MarieS
03-05-2007, 07:34 PM
Lleyton played like long 5 or 4 set matches from the 3rd round till the final while being injured. He was totally wasted in the final. Safin was topfit, and deserved to be there because of beating Fed and probably would have beaten lleyton even if Lleyton was more fit...but get your facts a bit straightened out.

Safin had played a near 5 hour match against the greatest player of all time; he wasn't exactly fresh as a daisy. Nonetheless, he didn't get lucky (as someone said) that Lleyton was tired. It's tennis. Did Fed get lucky the year before when Marat took the most sets, EVER, to reach a GS final?

MariaV
03-05-2007, 07:35 PM
Ahh, our dear Escude, he is obsessed with Safin & his fans. ;)

MarieS
03-05-2007, 07:41 PM
Ahh, our dear Escude, he is obsessed with Safin & his fans. ;)

Can you blame him? :shrug::angel:

leng jai
03-05-2007, 09:24 PM
Lleyton played like long 5 or 4 set matches from the 3rd round till the final while being injured. He was totally wasted in the final. Safin was topfit, and deserved to be there because of beating Fed and probably would have beaten lleyton even if Lleyton was more fit...but get your facts a bit straightened out.

I have this match on tape and Hewitt did not look fatigued at all. It wouldn't have made a difference anyway, since Marat was playing top flight tennis in the last 2 sets. Hewitt was clearly overpowered, not much he could really do.

Corey Feldman
03-05-2007, 09:59 PM
:lol: You Saftards make me laugh as well
:lol:

But Marat's luck in 2005 was still unbelievable.
even Vs Rochus in rnd 4.

rochus should have won that day 6-4 7-6 7-6.

leng jai
03-05-2007, 11:08 PM
I'm a Haastard, not a Saftard. Just stating what I saw on the tape...

trixtah
03-06-2007, 01:37 AM
Not quite, the difference is Safin doesnt have good mentality when someone like Hewitt gets alot of the balls back.... Safin knows only two gears, hard then harder, he loses patience.

I like Marat and no doubt he can play at least one perfect match every 5 years :rolls: , but too often he is an unstable guy if you ask me, like someone posted earlier... the mind of a teenage brat.
could not be more different to the mind of Hewitt in his prime.

he was lucky Hewitt was more dead tired than him in that AO 2005 F, after Fed handed him the Semi final win.

annnnnd you just lost all credibility. congrats:bigwave:

you and glenn obviously have some insider information straight from Marat to be talking like you know the guy :)

MariaV
03-06-2007, 06:52 AM
:lol: You Saftards make me laugh as well
:lol:

But Marat's luck in 2005 was still unbelievable.
even Vs Rochus in rnd 4.

rochus should have won that day 6-4 7-6 7-6.

:haha: :haha: :haha:
OK you've lost credibility with me LOOOONG ago so I don't know why I even bother. :yawn: Bye bye! :wavey:

Castafiore
03-06-2007, 07:11 AM
I didn't see this match at all but great to see Hewitt win a tournament even if it's a small event.

:)

Playagirl
03-06-2007, 08:28 AM
That was just a joke Marat :(

Corey Feldman
03-06-2007, 03:32 PM
:lol: being told ive lost credibility >>>>> by Safinchick fans.
the irony of it.

Rogiman
03-06-2007, 03:51 PM
Do no bother, 'Scude, they haven't even watched him play in 5 years, they like him because of his photos :)

Especially MariaV :)

Rogiman
03-06-2007, 03:59 PM
Just because someone is struggling temporarily does not mean he canot be a good player anymore.:rolls:

Even back in 2002 (probably the 2nd best year of his career) he was useless in all but 3 or 4 events.

Glenn is right, the guy is a tanker.
He may have a beautiful technique, but he doesn't care about his fans (14 year-old girls and aging women) and gives in disgracefully.

Deea
03-06-2007, 04:20 PM
:rolls:

He may have a beautiful technique, but he doesn't care about his fans (14 year-old girls and aging women) and gives in disgracefully.

Oh so the only fans Marat Safin has are only 14 year olds and aging women who only care about his looks? Oh brother!!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: This convo again???

+alonso
03-06-2007, 04:22 PM
MTF need some fresh results! :rolls:

Deea
03-06-2007, 04:41 PM
MTF need some fresh results! :rolls:

Totally :rolls: I mean, I know bashing Safin fans is always good fun for some posters around here that shall not be named, :p but really now...it's getting old and uninteresting! But then...I guess some never have enough :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Socket
03-06-2007, 05:16 PM
It's kinda amusing to watch the fans of two players who like and respect each other bash one another so much. :lol:

MarieS
03-06-2007, 05:56 PM
Do no bother, 'Scude, they haven't even watched him play in 5 years, they like him because of his photos :)

Especially MariaV :)

You're giving us way too much credit there skippy. You seem to be suggesting that we have actually EVER watched him...We haven't. We just recently found out he plays tennis :).


He may have a beautiful technique, but he doesn't care about his fans (14 year-old girls and aging women) and gives in disgracefully.
I'm neither a 14 year old or an aging woman...I feel an identity crisis coming on. Thanks, thanks a lot :crying2:. He doesn't care about tennis fans, you're right, and he especially doesn't give a shit about what "experts" like you think about him and his hall of fame career :wavey:.

It's kinda amusing to watch the fans of two players who like and respect each other bash one another so much. :lol:
I don't think this is a lleyton fans vs. safin fans argument. This is a jealous safin haters vs. safin fans argument ;) :wavey:.

Svetlana.
03-06-2007, 06:13 PM
horrible performance for Marat

he needs a shrink and a real coach

Marat had a real coach, and when he listen to him, he won the Australian Open in 2005. :banana: But discipline and following the everyday routine is not in Marat's nature. He likes to have a good time off court, and then he punishes himself on court for all that he's done a day before. :fiery: :banghead: :devil:

Despite all his inner demons, he's a very talented, entertaining and unique player that we all will remember for many years to come... :inlove:

bad gambler
03-06-2007, 06:25 PM
Good win Lleyton :D

Safin_Lova
03-06-2007, 08:42 PM
Whats all this nonsense guys?
Seriously know, why are you all resurecting matches from the past and talking about them know?
They have absolutely nothing to do with the topic, so please stop naming days when he was lucky, because so many other players have been lucky in matches, besides, conserning Marat, AO was not one of those lucky days, he won fair and square. As for his unstable menatality, how do you think he beat Rochus that day, well the answer to that is that on that day, he fought pretty hard. So please guys stop taking credit away for his wins, its besiedes the actual topic of conversation.

Burrow
03-06-2007, 09:10 PM
rubbish, he would be counter punched to death

suuuuuuuuuuuuuure.

Corey Feldman
03-07-2007, 11:46 AM
You Safin fans really take everything that is said about him FAR TOO SERIOUSLY.

man, its lucky he sux thesedays and is not involved in the real MTF wars like fed v rafa or Ljubo v roddick, i think you would all hang yourselves everytime the big man gets a negative comment.

Corey Feldman
03-07-2007, 11:51 AM
and posters that say safin bashers are jealous or whatever.... well it just says everything about those posters if you ask me, like Rogiman said.. silly girly fans who know jack shit about tennis.

:lol:

MariaV
03-07-2007, 11:56 AM
Yo Mikey! :wavey:
Aging lady here, or whatever you machos are calling me these days. :D
You know that's why we're here, to defend Safin's honour. ;)

Corey Feldman
03-07-2007, 12:08 PM
I never said that.. that was Rogiman :p
sure, defend.

only because some ppl cant handle me giving MY OPINION that Hewitt is a better player in his prime.
and that Safin was lucky to beat Rochus :D

MariaV
03-07-2007, 12:11 PM
Because YOUR opinion is ridiculous!!! :p And we have OUR OPINION! :D We can express it here too. :D

Corey Feldman
03-07-2007, 12:12 PM
Whats all this nonsense guys?
Seriously know, why are you all resurecting matches from the past and talking about them know?
They have absolutely nothing to do with the topic, so please stop naming days when he was lucky, because so many other players have been lucky in matches, besides, conserning Marat, AO was not one of those lucky days, he won fair and square. As for his unstable menatality, how do you think he beat Rochus that day, well the answer to that is that on that day, he fought pretty hard. So please guys stop taking credit away for his wins, its besiedes the actual topic of conversation.lucky or not? make up your mind little safin girl :retard:
or are you one of these that call every other player who wins lucky?
how many at MTF say Federer is lucky when he wins, just take it and stop crying.

MarieS
03-07-2007, 01:14 PM
You Safin fans really take everything that is said about him FAR TOO SERIOUSLY.

man, its lucky he sux thesedays and is not involved in the real MTF wars like fed v rafa or Ljubo v roddick, i think you would all hang yourselves everytime the big man gets a negative comment.

don't lump us all together :shrug:.

and posters that say safin bashers are jealous or whatever.... well it just says everything about those posters if you ask me, like Rogiman said.. silly girly fans who know jack shit about tennis.

:lol:
Jealous. :wavey:

Corey Feldman
03-07-2007, 01:18 PM
Of?
Hewitt and Rochus are better than him.
:bigwave:

mer
03-07-2007, 01:40 PM
Of?
Hewitt and Rochus are better than him.
:bigwave:
:wavey: you feel better now? :hug: Good for you! :yeah:
You and Rogiman enjoy yourself bashing Marat and his fans and Marat is still two times GS champion and everybody happy :D

MarieS
03-07-2007, 01:40 PM
Of?
Hewitt and Rochus are better than him.
:bigwave:

Sure they are.

JEALOUS :wavey:.

CmonAussie
03-07-2007, 02:37 PM
Sure they are.

JEALOUS :wavey:.


:confused:
Hewitt jealous of Safin:confused: :rolleyes:

...Well sure Lleyton would love that AO from 05 where Marat pipped him:sad: , but overall career wise I would say if anything Safin`s got more reason to be jealous of Hewitt than vice versa:p

Anyway the two of them appear to be quite friendly, so why should we make something out of nothing:devil:

mer
03-07-2007, 02:42 PM
:confused:
Hewitt jealous of Safin:confused: :rolleyes:

hey, did anyone here said Hewitt jealous of Safin? ;) It was a nice little discussion between safin fans and safin haters (or rather safinfans haters). Hewitt and even Marat himself have nothing to do with this discussion.

Grinder
03-07-2007, 02:42 PM
Safin isn't even close to the player Hewitt is. :lol:

Socket
03-07-2007, 02:44 PM
I don't think the two guys are jealous of each other, although I think each would like to have those aspects of the other that he doesn't have. Marat would love to have Lleyton's focus and mental tenacity, and Lleyton would love to have Marat's power. They complement each other well (as well as compliment each other :) ), and would make a great doubles team, given that.

mer
03-07-2007, 02:47 PM
I don't think the two guys are jealous of each other, although I think each would like to have those aspects of the other that he doesn't have. Marat would love to have Lleyton's focus and mental tenacity, and Lleyton would love to have Marat's power.
look, where did you read in this thread that Hewitt is jealous of Marat or vice versa?

CmonAussie
03-07-2007, 02:55 PM
Safin isn't even close to the player Hewitt is. :lol:

:confused:
You`re being sarcastic:rolleyes:

>> Anyway both their careers have ended up being quite similiar~~ both 2-time Slam winners, 2-time Slam finalists, 2-time Davis Cup Champs, but Hewitt has done a bit more [2xTMC, 01-02 #1, more titles...];)

Socket
03-07-2007, 03:03 PM
look, where did you read in this thread that Hewitt is jealous of Marat or vice versa?

Damn, I wouldn't have posted anything if I knew there was going to be a quiz! :scared:

Corey Feldman
03-07-2007, 04:15 PM
:wavey: you feel better now? :hug: Good for you! :yeah:
You and Rogiman enjoy yourself bashing Marat and his fans and Marat is still two times GS champion and everybody happy :DAnother safinchick? :o
its always fun to bash the big child Marat, ive never seen such a bad loser in all my life in tennis.... his face goes red and he wants to cry everytime he loses a point, its pathetic.... and he's a quitter, not a fighter :rolleyes:
im fed up how Thomas Johansson never gets credit for winning the AO 'because Marat had a few beers the night before'
although i dont blame MTF for that, just the media .. but they are just as stupid.

Grinder
03-07-2007, 05:40 PM
:confused:
You`re being sarcastic:rolleyes:

>> Anyway both their careers have ended up being quite similiar~~ both 2-time Slam winners, 2-time Slam finalists, 2-time Davis Cup Champs, but Hewitt has done a bit more [2xTMC, 01-02 #1, more titles...];)


Nope, not sarcasm.

mer
03-07-2007, 05:48 PM
and he's a quitter, not a fighter :rolleyes:

yes, sure he's a quitter. That's why he has such a good 5-set record. That's why he came back to top 5 and won his second GS title after one serious injury and falling in the rankings to 70 smth . That's why he's trying to come back the second time having chronic injury now and after being told by doctors he'd probably never recover and being not young already by tennis standards. Of course that's what a quitter usually does, not a fighter.

Ariadne
03-07-2007, 06:02 PM
Talent:

Safin (to a large extent) > Hewitt

Accomplishments:

Hewitt (Ever so slightly) > Safin

Reasons:

Safin: 2 Slams (beating Federer and Sampras), 6 AMS wins (3 Paris), 2 Slam Finals, 1-2 Slam Semi-Final finishes. Very inconsistent, been in and out of the top 5 since entering in 2000. Very average record at the Slams outside of the Australian. Loses to lesser players very frequently. Unrealized potential.

Hewitt: 2 Slams, 2 AMS wins (both Indian Wells), 2 Year End Championship Wins, Finished number one twice, Finished in the top 5 two other times. Consistent record at the Slam, during 2004-05 lost to the eventual champ 7 times in a row. Consistent record at all Slams and on all surfaces. Exhausted potential.

mer
03-07-2007, 06:19 PM
Talent:

Safin (to a large extent) > Hewitt

Accomplishments:

Hewitt (Ever so slightly) > Safin

you can't measure and compare talent. This is ridiculous.
As for accomplishments apparently Hewitt is more accomplished (though Marat's two injuries in 2003 and 2005 didn't help him to do more). But this is not the point of discussion. Some ppl here are having fun kicking the guy when he's down and it's not enough for them, now they want to take away from Marat his not so bad past and his undeniable accomlishments.

MariaV
03-07-2007, 06:25 PM
Another safinchick? :o
its always fun to bash the big child Marat, ive never seen such a bad loser in all my life in tennis.... his face goes red and he wants to cry everytime he loses a point, its pathetic.... and he's a quitter, not a fighter :rolleyes:
im fed up how Thomas Johansson never gets credit for winning the AO 'because Marat had a few beers the night before'
although i dont blame MTF for that, just the media .. but they are just as stupid.

OK I'm fed up too and I don't want to hear about it any more. I don't know about the journos but I've ALWAYS given ToJo credit, I respect him a lot and I'm sure Marat does too so stop complaining here already. :rolleyes:
I'm not even going to the quitter and drinking issue. Sigh.

Ariadne
03-07-2007, 06:40 PM
you can't measure and compare talent. This is ridiculous.

Talent in the holistic sense IS a quantifiable quantity...there are certain aspects of one's game that you can consider to be superlative relative to another's. Cummulatively, Safin IS more talented than Hewitt. I do not want to get into a ridiculous argument on this issue so please consider all my comments in this regard prefaced with IMO :angel:.

MariaV
03-07-2007, 06:46 PM
Yeah could we please leave the talent debate here. :angel:

Corey Feldman
03-07-2007, 09:10 PM
yes, sure he's a quitter. That's why he has such a good 5-set record. That's why he came back to top 5 and won his second GS title after one serious injury and falling in the rankings to 70 smth . That's why he's trying to come back the second time having chronic injury now and after being told by doctors he'd probably never recover and being not young already by tennis standards. Of course that's what a quitter usually does, not a fighter.Finally, you get it.

his flukey big 1st serve on BP's always saves him in 5 set matches.

I don't know about the journos but I've ALWAYS given ToJo credit, I respect him a lot and I'm sure Marat does too so stop complaining here already. :rolleyes:
I'm not even going to the quitter and drinking issue. Sigh.Ok then :p... what about in Miami 2002 when he screamed and swore all kind of filth, behaving like a spoilt child when he smashed a tournament car and was not given a replacement.
unbelievable behaviour by a grown man.

or the way he treated Ferrero in Hamburg in 2005.

too many things that means Marat deserves to be bashed.
and he will never have the talent of Olivier Rochus.

Grinder
03-07-2007, 10:03 PM
Finally, you get it.

his flukey big 1st serve on BP's always saves him in 5 set matches.

Ok then :p... what about in Miami 2002 when he screamed and swore all kind of filth, behaving like a spoilt child when he smashed a tournament car and was not given a replacement.
unbelievable behaviour by a grown man.

or the way he treated Ferrero in Hamburg in 2005.

too many things that means Marat deserves to be bashed.
and he will never have the talent of Olivier Rochus.


Exactly. The double standards that come into play when Martwat is involved are ridiculous. His fans make him out to be beyond reproach. :cuckoo:

MarieS
03-07-2007, 10:21 PM
Exactly. The double standards that come into play when Martwat is involved are ridiculous. His fans make him out to be beyond reproach. :cuckoo:

no we don't, don't put words in our mouth, k? :o Not smart enough for that :D.

Maria's talking about giving ToJo credit and for some reason Marat's bratty behavior is brought up. :shrug: He does things that are indefensible and we call him out on it, just not here because you twats do it so admirably. I don't get what his behavior has to do with the original claim that got everyone so riled up which was that Safin doesn't care about his career. But i guess jealousy doesn't go to well with being reasonable :wavey:.

Grinder
03-07-2007, 10:29 PM
no we don't, don't put words in our mouth, k? :o Not smart enough for that :D.

Maria's talking about giving ToJo credit and for some reason Marat's bratty behavior is brought up. :shrug: He does things that are indefensible and we call him out on it, just not here because you twats do it so admirably. I don't get what his behavior has to do with the original claim that got everyone so riled up which was that Safin doesn't care about his career. But i guess jealousy doesn't go to well with being reasonable :wavey:.

Talk about the elementary approach to arguing. :lol:

MarieS
03-07-2007, 10:33 PM
Talk about the elementary approach to arguing. :lol:

Ran out of things to say? good boy, now run along :D

Grinder
03-07-2007, 10:43 PM
Ran out of things to say? good boy, now run along :D

Point proven.


:haha:

MarieS
03-07-2007, 10:51 PM
Point proven.


:haha:

Thing is, you didn't have a point to prove. but good for you, at least you SOMETHING going for yourself :yeah:.
As for my elementary approach to argument...I guess it was my bad, I didn't realize we were arguing about Safin's virtues or lack thereof. I just took issue with Glenn's claim which he still by the way hasn't backed up and you all jumped in and it somehow evolved into discrediting every single thing he's ever done :shrug:. Predictably, I might add. I've heard that talking to y'all is like talking to a wall, now I've seen for myself. :D G'day :hatoff:

Grinder
03-07-2007, 10:58 PM
Thing is, you didn't have a point to prove. but good for you, at least you SOMETHING going for yourself :yeah:.
As for my elementary approach to argument...I guess it was my bad, I didn't realize we were arguing about Safin's virtues or lack thereof. I just took issue with Glenn's claim which he still by the way hasn't backed up and you all jumped in and it somehow evolved into discrediting every single thing he's ever done :shrug:. Predictably, I might add. I've heard that talking to y'all is like talking to a wall, now I've seen for myself. :D G'day :hatoff:


I "something going for myself"? If you say so. :lol:

Rogiman
03-07-2007, 11:32 PM
Too bad Safin's fans care about him so much, because he doesn't care about them one bit, just like he doesn't care about his career.

trixtah
03-08-2007, 12:18 AM
Grinder and Escude have never seen a Safin match in their lives, just disregard them

Oh and Rogiman

lau
03-08-2007, 12:25 AM
Too bad some people care so much about Safin and his fans :lol:

MarieS
03-08-2007, 01:59 AM
Too bad Safin's fans care about him so much, because he doesn't care about them one bit, just like he doesn't care about his career.
:awww: That really IS too bad :crying2:. He especially doesn't care what you think and that's consolation enough :wavey:.

Too bad some people care so much about Safin and his fans :lol:

:worship: Can you blame them? :cool:

2moretogo
03-08-2007, 03:12 AM
Of?
Hewitt and Rochus are better than him.
:bigwave:

Rochus, managed to win a GS when?

Another safinchick? :o
its always fun to bash the big child Marat, ive never seen such a bad loser in all my life in tennis.... his face goes red and he wants to cry everytime he loses a point, its pathetic.... and he's a quitter, not a fighter :rolleyes:
im fed up how Thomas Johansson never gets credit for winning the AO 'because Marat had a few beers the night before'
although i dont blame MTF for that, just the media .. but they are just as stupid.

Crying? There's no crying in tennis. Unless of course you play the WTA.

Too bad some people care so much about Safin and his fans :lol:

I know right? Like they are every going to convert us.... lol. If we are truly 14yr olds or aging women than there could be no reasoning with us right? Surely if we have never seen a match right? Then why bother responding? :confused:

Saumon
03-08-2007, 05:52 AM
Crying? There's no crying in tennis. Unless of course you play the WTA.
*cough*Federer*cough*

Action Jackson
03-08-2007, 05:54 AM
Thanks for the entertainment everyone.

MariaV
03-08-2007, 06:31 AM
*cough*Federer*cough*

:haha: :haha: :haha: That is just TOO good Gab!!!!!!!!! Haaahaaaa wait till Escude, Rogiman and other true Fedtards see this.

And we're happy to entertain you, GWH! :wavey:

Puschkin
03-08-2007, 06:35 AM
:haha: :haha: :haha: That is just TOO good Gab!!!!!!!!! Haaahaaaa wait till Escude, Rogiman and other true Fedtards see this.
This is the definitive proof: I am not a true Fed-tard, because this does not embarras me at all.
:wavey: BTW: I can share the feeling of entertainment. If one is not in the heat of "battle"oneself, GM can be entertaining.

MariaV
03-08-2007, 06:46 AM
This is the definitive proof: I am not a true Fed-tard, because this does not embarras me at all.
:wavey: BTW: I can share the feeling of entertainment. If one is not in the heat of "battle"oneself, GM can be entertaining.

Good, I hope nice Fed fans don't feel embarrassed, there's no need to. :hug:
And you sure aren't a Fedtard. :hug:

I wish you all an entertaining day! :wavey:

MariaV
03-08-2007, 10:33 AM
Too bad Safin's fans care about him so much, because he doesn't care about them one bit, just like he doesn't care about his career.

At least we have Rogiman, Escude, Grinder and some others to care about us. :angel:

Action Jackson
03-08-2007, 10:35 AM
At least we have Rogiman, Escude, Grinder and some others to care about us. :angel:

Don't worry we all know the excuses and the fangirling will never be too far away.

But this was an entertaining thread for sure.

bokehlicious
03-08-2007, 10:50 AM
Escude and Rogiman are so spot on here... As always :)

Corey Feldman
03-08-2007, 11:52 AM
Thanks for the entertainment everyone.
I just cannot believe how many Safinchick fans in here fell for it :lol:

by the time i was saying Rochus is more talented, you'd have thought they surely figured it out by then
;)

2moretogo
03-08-2007, 03:08 PM
*cough*Federer*cough*

Going, going gone....

I just cannot believe how many Safinchick fans in here fell for it :lol:

by the time i was saying Rochus is more talented, you'd have thought they surely figured it out by then
;)

I just thought you were smoking the good shit? :angel:

MarieS
03-08-2007, 03:52 PM
I just cannot believe how many Safinchick fans in here fell for it :lol:

by the time i was saying Rochus is more talented, you'd have thought they surely figured it out by then
;)

You spew so much BS that it's hard to disinguish when you are serious and when you are not :wavey:.

Anyway, as for the entertainment, anytime :hatoff:. You know how easy it is to get us going.

Corey Feldman
03-08-2007, 05:40 PM
The Maria/Marietards :hug:

I just thought you were smoking the good shit? :angel:Like big Marat does before finals?

Corey Feldman
03-08-2007, 05:42 PM
I noticed some of you laughing at Muzza's haircut thread.

alright to laugh at my player but you dont like it coming back Eh

:rolleyes:

MarieS
03-08-2007, 06:05 PM
The Maria/Marietards :hug:

Like big Marat does before finals?

:kiss: You WISH the shit you smoked was as good as Marat's before finals :D.

I noticed some of you laughing at Muzza's haircut thread.

alright to laugh at my player but you dont like it coming back Eh

:rolleyes:

If and when you start making fun of Safin's hair, we'll gladly join in :yeah:.

2moretogo
03-08-2007, 09:30 PM
Like big Marat does before finals?

There's a difference between the *ish he smokes before finals rather than the stuff he smokes after say a 1st round loss?

Perhaps this explains why he has consistency issues.:devil:

Corey Feldman
03-09-2007, 10:03 AM
If and when you start making fun of Safin's hair, we'll gladly join in :yeah:Now i wish i remember where i seen that pic of Marat a few days ago, smiling with his big bushy hair sticking out ..
he looked like a Lion.
:sad:

hablovah19
03-09-2007, 02:09 PM
This thread is just :tape:

I was wondering why it was still on the first page : it's old news.

Too bad Marat lost.