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in your opinion, rafa's ranking by the end of the year will be...

megadeth
03-01-2007, 11:18 PM
i think his ranking will drastically drop if he fails to defend the 3 big ones he won last year: MC, Rome, and FO.

plus, if he fails to repeat his lucky run in wimby this year, he'll lose more points again.

on the upside though, the latter part of the season last year was so terrible for him that this year, he can only look forward to the fact that he doesn't have much points to defend during that time...

Shrinking Violet
03-01-2007, 11:22 PM
2. I still think he's the second best player - he's just having a bit of a slump. I may change my mind if he still stinks the place up in the next 6 weeks, but I still think he's only slumping just now and will snap out of it.

It should be a good race for second though this year - the other guys must be feeling good about their chances of taking it off him so I think it would be close.

krakenzero
03-01-2007, 11:24 PM
2nd, as always... what's the issue?? He is the BEST player in clay with only Federer as a competitor. In the rest of the surfaces available, considering results, he is still top 5. So, what has changed??

MrJ
03-01-2007, 11:25 PM
2nd, as always... what's the issue?? He is the BEST player in clay with only Federer as a competitor. In the rest of the surfaces available, considering results, he is still top 5. So, what has changed??

No way is he top 5 on other surfaces, but he will still comfortably finish in the top 2 because he will defend most of his clay points.

Rogiman
03-01-2007, 11:27 PM
5 or 6.

He won't go as far in Wimbledon, and I doubt it he'll have another perfect clay season.

Horatio Caine
03-01-2007, 11:32 PM
top 5...I don't think he defends the French either

megadeth
03-01-2007, 11:33 PM
5 or 6.

He won't go as far in Wimbledon, and I doubt it he'll have another perfect clay season.

my sentiments exactly. a lot of ppl are thinking that come clay season, rafa wil redeem himself...

i personally think that that won't be the case... he might win barcelona or 1 TMS on clay . my guess is probably hamburg because fed won't enter there since fed will win MC and Rome ;)

krakenzero
03-01-2007, 11:34 PM
MrJ, I didn't believe it too as first, but it's true. Without considering clay tournaments, the 2006 ranking is something like this:

1) Federer
2) Blake
3) Roddick
4) Nadal
5) Davydenko

you can check it yourself if you want.

Voo de Mar
03-01-2007, 11:36 PM
6 or 7

My prediction on Masters Cup 2007:
Federer, Roddick, Haas, Blake, Youzhny, Nadal, Berdych, Soderling :p

Federer&Hingis
03-01-2007, 11:37 PM
no.4 after Federer,Roddick and Haas.

MrJ
03-01-2007, 11:38 PM
MrJ, I didn't believe it too as first, but it's true. Without considering clay tournaments, the 2006 ranking is something like this:

1) Federer
2) Blake
3) Roddick
4) Nadal
5) Davydenko

you can check it yourself if you want.

Take out Wimbledon and he would not be in the top 10. Im sorry but a player who has not even reached a final (outside of Wimbledon) for a whole year cannot be considered in the top 5.

megadeth
03-01-2007, 11:39 PM
let's not get started on roddick... that's one player in the top 5 who doesn't deserve to be there... :p

krakenzero
03-01-2007, 11:41 PM
so why can't we take out the 5 ATP in which Blake defeated nothing, or the Roddick and Daydenko's TMS in the same conditions, for example?

Without Wimbledon Nadal still has 1670 pts, so he'd be like 8th (Ljubicic and probablye Baghdatis would pass him).

Sofyaxo
03-01-2007, 11:42 PM
Depends if a few players like Roddick and Haas can keep up Davydenko has been kind of slipping.

So Nadal will be top 5, clay season will save him.

I think this year it could kind of be up in the air. It's still early in the year and we'll have to see what happens.

mangoes
03-01-2007, 11:43 PM
I don't see Nadal losing the no. 2 spot. Even if Nadal doesn't win each tournament on clay, he should win enough to secure his spot. I think the only player that has a chance of overtaking Nadal is Roddick, but that would require Nadal's level dropping significantly on clay and Roddick staying focused and winning the matches he should not be losing. Also, if Nadal has a solid ending of the year, his ranking should be secure.

mr_burns
03-01-2007, 11:44 PM
I think he might end 2 till 6, everything is possible


The run on clay will make sure he won't be lower than 6...If he wants to be higher, he will need really more

If Haas Gonzalez, Roddick and Haas play like now, they will be in front of him

R.Federer
03-01-2007, 11:48 PM
6 or 7

My prediction on Masters Cup 2007:
Federer, Roddick, Haas, Blake, Youzhny, Nadal, Berdych, Soderling :p

No Gonzo?

Voo de Mar
03-01-2007, 11:52 PM
No Gonzo?

Honestly, I forgot about him. On the other hand maybe Madrid-Basel-Australian Open and these three losing finals to FedEx were the highlight of his career
A couple years ago Haas was at some point No. 2 in the world and he finished that season outside Top 8, so you never know...

:confused:

Allure
03-02-2007, 01:11 AM
269

Whistleway
03-02-2007, 01:13 AM
2........

PlayOnClay
03-02-2007, 01:17 AM
3 or 4.:scratch:

Merton
03-02-2007, 01:23 AM
This is getting interesting, people start writing Nadal off, that could imply a low price in the winner take all market for the French Open. "Takes a note to monitor the odds before Montecarlo".

TMJordan
03-02-2007, 01:26 AM
Should stay in the top 5. (would say 4-5 wil be the most reasonable)

Regenbogen
03-02-2007, 01:39 AM
Can't see him slipping past 3 or 4 regardless of whether he gets it together for the clay season or not. Everyone below him in the rankings has just been too inconsistent.

rofe
03-02-2007, 01:43 AM
2.

He will play better than people here think he will - especially during the clay season.

vahep
03-02-2007, 01:58 AM
Lots of variables. If he stays injury free (which he rarely does), I still stay he will sweep most of the clay events.

Also people keep harping on his easy draw at Wimbledon, but he was the only player to take a set off Fed in Wimby 06, and was one missed overhead away from taking a second. No way am I writing off this guy. He is too good, and will remain firmly entrenched at No.2. Only if he gets injured at critical times, or continues his poor form for another 3-4 months would I give Roddick & Gonzo a chance to nip at his heels.

On a side note, although he is too far back this year to crack the top 4, I think Murray has a shot of having the second best 2007 season overall, although Haas, Roddick, and Gonzo might have something to say about that.

kindablue
03-02-2007, 02:19 AM
2 i think, but then again nothing is sure!

megadeth
03-02-2007, 02:36 AM
i really think that not even clay will save him from fed's assault. fed has shown that he's the #2 clay courter in the world and will take over as #1 this year. fed will take 2 out of the 3 clay TMS and win the FO.

in effect, this will make rafa lose some points. also, if rafa is already struggling in HCs when faced with a big hitter, imagine facing those players on grass?

rafa better get rid of uncle toni too in my opinion and get someone who can really help him improve his strokes and game style...

Jlee
03-02-2007, 02:38 AM
Everything depends on the clay season. If he doesn't redeem himself he'll drop to number 4 or 5.

If he begins to gain confidence on it again and finals at RG and maybe reaches the quarters or semis of Wimbly he should still be #2.

lau
03-02-2007, 02:41 AM
According to some sources, year end rankings will be decided by Mr. Disney and a group of experts, based on what who should win certain titles. :)

Langers
03-02-2007, 02:51 AM
No.2, not much doubt in my mind.

mangoes
03-02-2007, 03:10 AM
According to some sources, year end rankings will be decided by Mr. Disney and a group of experts, based on what who should win certain titles. :)

Don't give Mr. Disney any ideas:lol: :lol: :lol:

ChinoRios4Ever
03-02-2007, 03:33 AM
still at #2

Metis
03-02-2007, 04:10 AM
No 1

Federer&Hingis
03-02-2007, 04:15 AM
No 1

Idiot Prediction.:o

Metis
03-02-2007, 04:17 AM
Idiot Prediction.:o

...for those who take this thread seriously. :lol:

LocoPorElTenis
03-02-2007, 04:50 AM
Between 2nd and 4th.

Metis
03-02-2007, 05:18 AM
Sandra de Jenken will be #1. :armed:

You've got to be kidding me :rolleyes:. The best she could ever do is 1.5, between Rafa and Marcos (sorry Fedfans, Roger will not make the Top 5 at the end of this year but he should still be able to make the TMC)

Merton
03-02-2007, 05:21 AM
You've got to be kidding me :rolleyes:. The best she could ever do is 1.5, between Rafa and Marcos (sorry Fedfans, Roger will not make the Top 5 at the end of this year but he should still be able to make the TMC)

I am sorry but you got it wrong, in my totally unbiased and objective opinion, Economidis will be #1 and Marcos #2.

Metis
03-02-2007, 05:30 AM
I am sorry but you got it wrong, in my totally unbiased and objective opinion, Economidis will be #1 and Marcos #2.

Hmmm... I had Konstantinos for No4 below Sharapova but you might be right after all. In that case though Rafito should be at No -1.

PamV
03-02-2007, 05:32 AM
2nd, as always... what's the issue?? He is the BEST player in clay with only Federer as a competitor. In the rest of the surfaces available, considering results, he is still top 5. So, what has changed??

Nothing has changed with Nadal, it's just that the hard court players have woken up and are back in full force (Roddick, Blake, Youzhny etc.) and plus some of the newer players like Murray, Djokovic, and Berdych are coming into their own.

There still is no big threat to Nadal on clay, so he has a good chance of defending most of those titles. I doubt he will get such a dream draw at Wimbledon as he did last year, so I would not expect him to make it to that final. However, if he wins the FO and at least two MS on clay wouldn't that keep him as #2 ?

jazar
03-02-2007, 07:52 AM
well he will defend the majorirt of his points from the clay court events, few of his points from wimbledon and after that he doesnt have a huge amount to defend. it really depends on how people like roddick, haas and gonzalez do. but i think he will be either 2 or 3

Deivid23
03-02-2007, 08:11 AM
Lots of deluded people around

Sean.J.S.
03-02-2007, 08:47 AM
Rafa will finish No.3 behind Roddick. :)

Puschkin
03-02-2007, 08:55 AM
4.

bokehlicious
03-02-2007, 09:30 AM
4 or 5 would be nice :)

oz_boz
03-02-2007, 09:37 AM
2. He will probably still gain enough points on clay to defend his spot. Wimbledon will be a big test for him, but I see him getting to QF there.