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Dirk
03-29-2004, 03:53 AM
Ok so give us the low down on the match Lsy?

star
03-29-2004, 03:56 AM
You really should get this match Rebecca if you're a Rafael fan. He was all pumped up from beginning till end. Screaming out loud and leaping on to the air each time after breaking Roger. But all understandable considering how well he was playing today.

Oh you saw it Lsy??????

Lucky you. :)

Nadal is very confident on the court. He sort of swaggers. I'm surprised to learn that he isnt' that way off the court.

LCeh
03-29-2004, 03:59 AM
I don't know how Roger was feeling, but to be honest, I definitely think he was sick out there. Even though I am sure he will not mention it in his post game interview, being sick affects a person more than you can see from a stat sheet. It slows you down, takes out your accuracy, your confidence, even if you don't make errors, your shots are weaker and easier to hit winners on.

And to be honest, I don't get why everyone is making such a big deal out of this. I am pretty sure Roger was sick, and Nadal was playing great. If Nadal beats a Federer at great form, that's something special. But beating a 70-80% player is not something THAT special, I mean, even though he is #1.

I don't think I am bitter, but I just think people are over-reacting. I might be totally wrong, but I still think it was a great win for Nadal, and that is that, not like some "victory to be remembered for a life-time".

I am not trying to take anything away from Nadal, but I think this is kinda over-hyped.

Shy
03-29-2004, 03:59 AM
Anyone else think that Pavel is happy?

Dirk
03-29-2004, 04:00 AM
LOL Pavel. I hope he can make the qrts. Who does he have next?

yanchr
03-29-2004, 04:07 AM
I don't know how Roger was feeling, but to be honest, I definitely think he was sick out there. Even though I am sure he will not mention it in his post game interview, being sick affects a person more than you can see from a stat sheet. It slows you down, takes out your accuracy, your confidence, even if you don't make errors, your shots are weaker and easier to hit winners on.

And to be honest, I don't get why everyone is making such a big deal out of this. I am pretty sure Roger was sick, and Nadal was playing great. If Nadal beats a Federer at great form, that's something special. But beating a 70-80% player is not something THAT special, I mean, even though he is #1.

I don't think I am bitter, but I just think people are over-reacting. I might be totally wrong, but I still think it was a great win for Nadal, and that is that, not like some "victory to be remembered for a life-time".

I am not trying to take anything away from Nadal, but I think this is kinda over-hyped.
It's absolutely a great moment for Nadal, if you can imagine how he jumped to the sky when he finished the MP and all those vamos. But agree that this should not be a life-time moment. Sorry for saying that, but Roger was clearly being influenced by his sickness in my eyes. What was more clear was that Roger himself didn't look like he was very upset and disappointed, maybe he thought that he just had that limited capability today, to play like this today.

Dirk
03-29-2004, 04:10 AM
Did you see the match Yanchr? Roger shouldn't have lost serve in teh 2nd set like that, but he would have lost sooner anyway. I just hope Roger gets another shot at him during the clay season.

Deboogle!.
03-29-2004, 04:13 AM
Yes, but it doesn't matter what WE think; it doesn't matter whether WE think the match is special or overrated or whatever. All that matters is what Nadal thinks of it; if he plans to see this match as a turning point in his career or view it as a lesser win b/c Roger was ill. And how will this win over the No. 1 seed affect his playing with the "big boys" from now on. :)


Oops... sorry....my failed attempt. I was trying to be silly and playing literally on your "shot in the arm" comment. I have a minor problem with needles :scared: therefore a shot in the arm of anything would not be a good thing.

never mind. ignore me. :tape:

Billabong
03-29-2004, 04:15 AM
I'll go to bed now,
cya tomorrow everyone :wavey:!

Dirk
03-29-2004, 04:17 AM
if its a flu shot then its ok Bunk ;)

Kiara
03-29-2004, 04:18 AM
I'll go to bed now,
cya tomorrow everyone :wavey:!
:wavey: night

yanchr
03-29-2004, 04:21 AM
Did you see the match Yanchr? Roger shouldn't have lost serve in teh 2nd set like that, but he would have lost sooner anyway. I just hope Roger gets another shot at him during the clay season.
Yeah, I saw the match. The way he lost his serve in the 2nd set was :mad:. Some easy forehand misses at the beginning followed by some good shots by Nadal. But I just saw that Roger was not in the win mood today and also not in the win position. You could find that from the stats that he didn't get even a single BP all through. Though he tried but was simply out of his limitation.

Dirk
03-29-2004, 04:24 AM
Roger looked so sad going off the court. I just hope Moya goes far. I also hope Roger can do good for DC.

Deboogle!.
03-29-2004, 04:28 AM
if its a flu shot then its ok Bunk ;)

Nope, I'd never get a flu shot

Did get the chicken pox shot though... someone shoulda told Juan Carlos about that one ;)

yanchr
03-29-2004, 04:28 AM
No, Roger didn't look sad aftermatch. He even smiled. I'm sure I'm much sadder than him.

lsy
03-29-2004, 04:41 AM
Why do you all think I'm lucky I get to watch the match, I'm a loyal Fed fan, star :)

It's heartbreaking to watch it :(

and yanchr, yes I think you're definitely more upset than Rogi it seemes :)

Kiara
03-29-2004, 04:45 AM
Nope, I'd never get a flu shot

Did get the chicken pox shot though... someone shoulda told Juan Carlos about that one ;)

and Lleyton Hewitt ;)

Chloe le Bopper
03-29-2004, 05:00 AM
What on earth are a couple of you going on about... nadal shouldn't see this as a huge moment? Wtf? Roger has now lost two matches this year, and he's one of them. Deal with it! He was sick. So? He played sick, so he's responsible for the loss. I'm sure Nadal will mention it in his interview if he gets a chance, but it doesn't matter. He could have choked and played nervous, but he obviously showed up to play. He took advantage of the situation, and beat the number 1 player in the world. That's fucking huge, no matter what weak rationalizations some of you might have for it.

As for Nadal being overhyped... :rolleyes: Right. What has Nadal ever done to deserve all this hype? Why, he just tripped his way into the top 30 (or thereabouts) without doing anything at all.

Scotso
03-29-2004, 05:25 AM
tell 'em Bec!

VAMOS RAFAEL!

Dirk
03-29-2004, 06:26 AM
I disagree with some of my fellow Federer fans on Nadal's success Beck. The kid is very good. As I posted in the Rogi Forum, Roger has beaten some players when they were not feeling well so this makes up for it.

J. Corwin
03-29-2004, 06:46 AM
Rafa fully deserved this win and he outplayed Roger. End of story.

J. Corwin
03-29-2004, 06:46 AM
Deb, if you ever read this. You've never gotten any vaccinations other than for chickn pox before?

Chloe le Bopper
03-29-2004, 07:14 AM
I disagree with some of my fellow Federer fans on Nadal's success Beck. The kid is very good. As I posted in the Rogi Forum, Roger has beaten some players when they were not feeling well so this makes up for it.

Of course I wasn't directing my comment at you, Dirk. I made a point of saying "a couple" instead of just saying "Fed fans" as most of you are being fine ;)

Tricky_Forehand
03-29-2004, 07:50 AM
As for Nadal being overhyped... :rolleyes: Right. What has Nadal ever done to deserve all this hype? Why, he just tripped his way into the top 30 (or thereabouts) without doing anything at all.

Rafi's one of those players that I think the "hype" was pretty spot on. I was cautious about liking him when I started to take notice last year but just couldn't ignore those results he's had.

yanchr
03-29-2004, 09:08 AM
Of course I wasn't directing my comment at you, Dirk. I made a point of saying "a couple" instead of just saying "Fed fans" as most of you are being fine ;)
I guess I'm one of "a couple".

Maybe I put my words wrongly. But No I'm not taking any credit away from Nadal's win, also not intended that Nadal won JUST BECAUSE he was playing a sick Roger. I even say that if Roger is in full health, Nadal still has a chance there absolutely.

Why I didn't look at it as a life-time moment for Nadal is that I still don't think it a life-time big deal to beat Roger. It is true he is now world #1 and has a pretty impressive record this year and is widely regarded as the best player now. But for me, he is still not in the Sampras position. He has not established his dynasty solidly, say his winning record and titles run overall have not lasted long enough to make someone's victory over him a life-time big deal. Yes it's still quite big but just not as big as a life-time one.

J. Corwin
03-29-2004, 11:46 AM
I also find it a lil interesting that asotgod all of a sudden "disappeared" from this thread after Roger went down a break in the 2nd set. He was so confident that Roger would have won. ;) Reading his comments thru this thread was interesting. ;) Talk about arrogance.

Deboogle!.
03-29-2004, 02:17 PM
Deb, if you ever read this. You've never gotten any vaccinations other than for chickn pox before?

omg of COURSE!!!!!! I mean.... a lot of them are required by law lmfao!

I'd just never get anything like the flu shot. Plus I'm not a high-risk person anyway. I barely ever get colds, have a very strong immune system and I'm otherwise healthy. I'm the absolute wrong candidate to get a flu shot - why would I take that scarce vaccine against a baby or elderly person who really needs it? Plus... yea. Me and needles just really do not get along. Long story but once I was so nervous about a bloodtest that I altered my hormones enough to force a false positive. I almost became a textbook case at one of the biggest hospitals in the world - let's not get into that LMFAO

Scotso
03-29-2004, 03:41 PM
R. NADAL/R. Federer
6-3, 6-3

An interview with:

RAFAEL NADAL

THE MODERATOR: If you have questions in English for Rafael, he'll answer in Spanish and I'll translate for him.

Q. How does it feel to beat the No. 1 seed?

RAFAEL NADAL: Yes, I'm very happy because I played one of the best matches in my life. Obviously, he didn't play his best tennis and that's the reason why I could win. I mean, if he had played his best tennis, I would have had no chance.

But that's what happens in tennis. If a player like me plays at a very, very good level and a top player like Roger doesn't play his best tennis, I can win.

But, sure, I'm really, really happy.

Q. (Inaudible)?

RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah, I played almost perfect tennis today because I was playing inside the court, dominating the exchanges and pressing him so he couldn't play his game. But one thing I forgot, I served extremely well today, probably I never served like this in my life. That was really the key.

Q. Everybody seems to be afraid to play Federer. You did not look like you were afraid.

RAFAEL NADAL: Yes, I mean, I was afraid that he could win 6-1, 6-1 or 6-1, 6-2 but I was really looking forward to playing this match because I was playing against the No. 1 player in the world.

I went on court with a positive attitude, not with the attitude of, "Oh, let's try and win one game."

Q. How would you describe your playing style?

RAFAEL NADAL: When I play well, I'm a very aggressive player with a good forehand and I fight very hard on the court.

Q. Technically and tactically, what was the key of the match? How did you approach this match?

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, I knew that the most important point was that I couldn't let him play his own game, because if he can play his own game, he wins 6-1, 6-1, 6-1, 6-2 like it's happening this year and it's never happened in tennis before.

So from the first point I knew that I had to dictate the exchange for him not to be able to play his game.

Q. How do you organize your day for practicing, for tactics of the matches if you are just on your own?

RAFAEL NADAL: No, I'm here with somebody, I'm here with Jofre Porta, who usually is with Carlos Moya, but Carlos Moya, he's here with Joan Bosch. I'm here with somebody that helps me.

At the same time, before every match, I call my uncle and so we speak about the match.

Q. As you said, you served very well today. Did you change anything on your serve since last year?

RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah, it's mostly that every match I try to hit my serve harder, and, you know, every match I play, because I think that's how you can improve yourself; you have to be more aggressive and go for it.

That's the key. Obviously, I know I've changed my movement a little bit, but that's the key, going for it more. Like, for instance, last week, I served at 6-5 against Calleri in the third set, and I didn't serve hard, I served like slowly, and I lost it. So that's the key really.

Q. The way you played tonight, it suggests that you're not the kind of player who's going to be afraid of playing on any surface, whether it's hard court, clay, even grass. Is that your goal, to be playing on all the surfaces well?

RAFAEL NADAL: No, I've always said that I'm the kind of player that can play well on all surfaces. I played well on grass last year. I played well on hard court outdoors. I play well on clay, obviously, because I'm used to it; I grew up on clay. And maybe I didn't play well last year indoors, but it was mostly because it was the end of the year and, you know, I was little bit tired. It was my first year, and I was a little bit tired at the end of the year. If you're not in very good shape physically and mentally, you cannot compete at this level.

Q. Last year when you lost to El Aynaoui at the US Open, you said you didn't feel you belonged to that top level of tennis and that was the reason why you had lost. What's the difference now?

RAFAEL NADAL: Definitely, this year I have much more confidence and I know that I can play at that level, that I belong to the higher level of players.

Obviously, last year I was winning my matches because I was fighting very hard. This is the same this year, but I'm also winning because I raised my level and I believe I belong to the top.

Q. Do you think you could play that kind of level in a match in a Grand Slam tournament, the best-of-five sets?

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, I've only played like Wimbledon and I got to the third round, and then US Open I got to the second round and then in Australia I lost to Hewitt in three sets.

So I only need to play Paris, which I haven't played before, and that's different there because it's clay courts.

But I think that physically I'm not such a bad player.

Q. This is a result that's going to reverberate around the world. Do you think your mobile phone will be pretty busy with calls tonight, congratulations?

RAFAEL NADAL: No, not right now because it's 4 a.m. in Spain so everybody's sleeping. Tomorrow, the papers won't have this news.

But, yeah, maybe Internet and on the teletext I will start getting some calls.

Q. You lost last year to Gonzalez, so what do you think about that match and tomorrow's match?

RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah, sure, I lost against him and it was in Stuttgart. I thought I played a good match, one of the best matches up to that point in my career. It was the first time that I played against somebody who hit the ball so hard. He was doing everything. I was just running around.

I played well to win the second set, and then I lost in three sets.

But I think tomorrow is going to be different because now I'm used to these kind of players.

Q. Your win today and Monaco's win over Guga yesterday were the same matches - you showed you're young players, hitting the ball very hard and dominating the other players. Is that the tennis of the future, and if your style of play doesn't work, do you have anything else to fall back on?

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, I don't think that Monaco or I discovered the world, because that's actually the way tennis players are playing right now, like Ferrero, Moya, Federer, Safin, you know, hitting the ball very hard. I'm particularly happy for Monaco because he's played well this year, especially in Buenos Aires and Brazil and here. I've known him quite well because he was training in Spain, so I've known him since the time he was playing futures in Spain.

Q. How important was it for you to play Davis Cup this year? How did it help you believe you are part of the top players?

RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah, it's true. Davis Cup was one of the best, if not the best experience so far. I was there, I lost my first two points, and then I won the last and it was just unbelievable. Obviously, now we have this match coming up in Mallorca. I would like to play again. But in Spain we have a lot of good players - Ferrero, Moya, who are ahead of me.

I'm hoping to play maybe in the doubles, but the team is going to be announced on Tuesday.

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