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Nieminen def Chardy 67(1) 76(4) 76(6)

Vin Judah
02-14-2007, 05:10 PM
:cool: :wavey: :cool:

Way to go Jarkko! :worship:

Good fight from the LL Chardy who took Grosjeans place!

Surprisingly many breaks especially in the third set. Chardy was serving for the match leading 5-3 in the third and Jarkko on the other hand got the chance to serve the match home after he broke Chardy at 5 all third set! All together 8 breaks of serve in the match!

Total points won by Chardy, 114-116 :)

:wavey: ;)

zicofirol
02-14-2007, 05:11 PM
Chardy was also up a break at 4-3 in the 2nd, he choked theis match away...

Deathless Mortal
02-14-2007, 05:11 PM
Well it's not that good... He barely beat LL Chardy... This shuld have go much easier for him... It seems like a good draw for him in the next round since Ljubo is out :tape:

Horatio Caine
02-14-2007, 05:31 PM
Well it's not that good... He barely beat LL Chardy... This shuld have go much easier for him... It seems like a good draw for him in the next round since Ljubo is out :tape:

Mahut isn't a good match for him

TMJordan
02-14-2007, 05:35 PM
Well it's not that good... He barely beat LL Chardy... This shuld have go much easier for him... It seems like a good draw for him in the next round since Ljubo is out :tape:

Mahut>Ljubicic :)

Labamba
02-14-2007, 05:44 PM
Jarkko :smoke:

this really wasn't one of his best matches :tape:

If he plays like this tomorrow, I would bet my house on Mahut to win :lol:

But I'm sure Jarkko will play better tomorrow since he got this rubbish match out of the way.

Deathless Mortal
02-14-2007, 05:45 PM
Mahut>Ljubicic :)

:ras: :lol:

gusman890
02-14-2007, 06:03 PM
what a longggg match

basically a serving contest and of breaks. Chardy served for it @ 5-3, same with Nieminen @ 6-5, and @ 6-6 in the tie break, it was anyones game and Chardy made a stupid approuch to end the point quickly.

Nice win Jarko, gl against Nico Mahut

Vin Judah
02-14-2007, 06:13 PM
what a longggg match

basically a serving contest and of breaks. Chardy served for it @ 5-3, same with Nieminen @ 6-5, and @ 6-6 in the tie break, it was anyones game and Chardy made a stupid approuch to end the point quickly.


i pretty much told that allready, but maybe u just skipped reading the other posts....

bad gambler
02-14-2007, 06:16 PM
Jarkko the TB specialist

Deivid23
02-14-2007, 06:30 PM
Chardy will be a v good player

Voo de Mar
02-14-2007, 06:33 PM
For me Nieminen is one of the strongest mental player on the tour.

gusman890
02-14-2007, 06:34 PM
i pretty much told that allready, but maybe u just skipped reading the other posts....

theres nothing wrong with giving my own prespective if it recalls the same information that you presented. Its not like, no one else is allowed to say that act same info.

besides, its all fun and games.

scoobs
02-14-2007, 07:06 PM
Very good fight from Chardy - definitely did not go quietly, in fact should have won, he was ahead in both the second and third sets. Somehow Jarkko squeaked through.

Bobby
02-14-2007, 08:02 PM
Well, Jakke fought well and eventually got the job done. He still needs a couple of more matches to find his game again. This certainly wasn't a great performance from him.
I'm still worried, his second serve still seems to be quite weak. Chardy was able to take advantage of it, and there are better returners than he is...

Seneca
02-14-2007, 08:05 PM
For me Nieminen is one of the strongest mental player on the tour.
Jarkko is one of the absolute best fighters in the tour when coming from behind but he gets tight as hell when going up a break in the 3rd set. Overall he's very strong mentally, which is quite uncommon in Finnish sports (at least the stereotype).

Bobby
02-14-2007, 08:11 PM
Jarkko is one of the absolute best fighters in the tour when coming from behind but he gets tight as hell when going up a break in the 3rd set. Overall he's very strong mentally, which is quite uncommon in Finnish sports (at least the stereotype).

What the hell do you mean? You don't know what you are talking about.

jazar
02-14-2007, 08:23 PM
how close was that. comiserations to chardy, great effort

Seneca
02-14-2007, 08:38 PM
What the hell do you mean? You don't know what you are talking about.
Umm... I think I may have misworded what I was actually trying to say. Having lived and worked 5 years in Finland and understanding the language, most of the press and message boards seem almost too keen to sort of build this stereotype of a Finnish athlete/team who'll blow the late lead and eventually lose. There's some sort of national cultural masochism that enters the fray if you lose to Sweden in ice hockey when entering the 3rd period with a solid two-goal lead. People go like 'Gaah, this always happens. We never... etc. etc.'

Some time ago I was reading through several Finnish messageboards related to Jarkko. Every loss was accompanied by some besserwissers gloating 'see, I told you his head would cave in', whether or not that was the case in the match in question.

That's what I was trying to say. I find it odd to consiously build and maintain this sort of stereotype.

silverwhite
02-14-2007, 08:41 PM
So close, Jeremy :sad:

Pixie
02-14-2007, 09:04 PM
Chardy will be a v good player

I think so. He can kill the point with his fh in spite of the spin he put on the ball. He's got the strokes but currently seems to lack a gameplan trying to repaint the lines in every of his shots. He's also a very emotional player. Most of this can be improved, he's got the bases. I reckon he's the most gifted french youngster that follow Gasquet. (though Eysseric could join him soon enough)

musefanatic
02-14-2007, 09:10 PM
Well done Jarkko but can't help thinking that was a bit too close for comfort for someone of Jarkko's ability, where is Chardy ranked compared to Jarkko?

Voo de Mar
02-14-2007, 09:27 PM
Someone said in the past on MTF that Nieminen always lose to the best players in the world so he'll never reach the Top 10. But on the other hand in my opinion (sorry Jarkko's fans) there are many players with Nieminen's skills outside Top 100. His achievements are pretty good and the key to that is his mentally resistance what is rather clear when we look up at his "5-set"- or "Tie-break's" record (also his patience and intelligence are the important factors of his good results). His position in men's tennis is unbelievable with respect to tradition of Finland's tennis.

JMG
02-14-2007, 09:41 PM
Chardy will be a v good player

Don't think so.

Pixie
02-14-2007, 09:47 PM
Don't think so.

wanna bet ?

Voo de Mar
02-14-2007, 10:00 PM
Chardy can be a good player but matches like this one are very important for the future. I saw 'livestream' at the end of this match. Nieminen was serving for the match at 6:5 in the 3rd, later he had double match point in the TB but Chardy equaled and I thought "This Chardy will be good if he win the tight match against such a good tie-break player like Nieminen is". But the Frenchman lost another two points and he came back to an array...

Seneca
02-14-2007, 10:04 PM
Someone said in the past on MTF that Nieminen always lose to the best players in the world so he'll never reach the Top 10. But on the other hand in my opinion (sorry Jarkko's fans) there are many players with Nieminen's skills outside Top 100.
For a guy who hasn't beaten a top20 player since summer 2005 (Puerta), he seems to be doing fine.:)

On pure skill level Jarkko has no business being on the same tour as Safin, Federer, Malisse, Verdasco et al. What I like about his game is that he actually gets as much out of it as possible. Also being one of the smarter players on tour doesn't hurt.

Pixie
02-14-2007, 10:06 PM
Chardy can be a good player but matches like this one are very important for the future. I saw 'livestream' at the end of this match. Nieminen was serving for the match at 6:5 in the 3rd, later he had double match point in the TB but Chardy equaled and I thought "This Chardy will be good if he win the tight match against such a good tie-break player like Nieminen is". But the Frenchman lost another two points and he came back to an array...

yep, and to be honest Nieminen played widely below his par. Unfortunately, that's not the first close one he loses that way. That said, everything could change quickly with a bunch of close wins given his game. Being that stressed on court, he'll need some years to fulfill his potential I reckon.