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The Major Suckitude of all active French Open Champions

Tennis Fool
02-13-2007, 06:55 PM
Anyone else seem to notice this right now?
Nadal--hurt, sucking since Wimbledon final
Gaudio--sucking since he won FO
Ferrero--see Gaudio
Kuerten--chronic hip, sucking for years, mounting comeback
Moya--up and down since he won FO 9 years ago, sucking lately since loss to Blake at AO

What's up with this?

brent-o
02-13-2007, 06:59 PM
This could also apply to former FO finalist Guillermo Coria. As for the situation, I don't know. I guess it's the curse of the clay.

buzz
02-13-2007, 07:02 PM
when federer finaly wins th FO, He will never win a major again.....

buzz
02-13-2007, 07:03 PM
when federer finaly wins th FO, He will never win a major again..... (don't hope so)

Tennis Fool
02-13-2007, 07:06 PM
This could also apply to former FO finalist Guillermo Coria.
His suckage actually comes from not winning it :lol: However, with the current trend, something else would have broken down instead of his mind.

zicofirol
02-13-2007, 07:11 PM
This could also apply to former FO finalist Guillermo Coria. As for the situation, I don't know. I guess it's the curse of the clay.

and verkerk, puerta etc...

atheneglaukopis
02-13-2007, 07:14 PM
Rafa's made two GS quarterfinals since Wimbledon, his best result in both tournaments. The only other players to do so were Federer, Roddick, Haas, and Davydenko. He's hurting, but it's a little early to say he sucks. :p

Sunset of Age
02-13-2007, 07:28 PM
Okay, call it "The Curse of Clay..." :rolleyes:

Watch out for that, Feds! :p

Merton
02-13-2007, 07:34 PM
Rumors of Nadal's death are somewhat exaggerated.

lau
02-13-2007, 07:37 PM
Gaudio--sucking since he won FO

Sooooo untrue. Gaudio played some of his best tennis after the RG title.

EDIT: He might "suck" now, but IMHO his RG title has nothing to do with it, in fact, I would say his RG title has more to do with his great level during 2004 and 2005.

Rumors of Nadal's death are somewhat exaggerated.
:haha:

Hendu
02-13-2007, 07:47 PM
Sooooo untrue. Gaudio played some of his best tennis after the RG title.

He managed to stay in the year end top ten the next year. I remember many haters said that his RG victory was a fluke and that he would go down after not defending it.

alfonsojose
02-13-2007, 07:47 PM
Costa and Andre retired :p

BgStallion
02-13-2007, 07:51 PM
Anyone else seem to notice this right now?
Nadal--hurt, sucking since Wimbledon final
Gaudio--sucking since he won FO
Ferrero--see Gaudio
Kuerten--chronic hip, sucking for years, mounting comeback
Moya--up and down since he won FO 9 years ago, sucking lately since loss to Blake at AO

What's up with this?

It's true that Ferrero hasn't been himself in the recent years ,but it wasn't after the 2003 RG - he reached the us open final and won a tms in Madrid.

aramis
02-13-2007, 07:59 PM
It's true that Ferrero hasn't been himself in the recent years ,but it wasn't after the 2003 RG - he reached the us open final and won a tms in Madrid.

He also reached the semis at the 2004 AO.

mays
02-13-2007, 08:55 PM
Anyone else seem to notice this right now?
Nadal--hurt, sucking since Wimbledon final
Gaudio--sucking since he won FO
Ferrero--see Gaudio
Kuerten--chronic hip, sucking for years, mounting comeback
Moya--up and down since he won FO 9 years ago, sucking lately since loss to Blake at AO

What's up with this?

Its such a pity tho. im a big gaudio fan, i think he's ridiculously talented, and has the game to challenge most of the big guys on the tour (except possibly the fedmister) i just dont understand why he has his head that far up his ass :confused:
same goes to ferrero in a way.

i dont understand all the fuss abt nadal's situation tho, i agree he isnt playing his very best, but he's doing alright...

Johnny Groove
02-14-2007, 12:27 AM
I fail to see how getting to the quarters of every tourney you play in to be "major suckitude". I guess in the federer era, anything less than a final in every tourney means the player has lost his mojo :rolleyes:

Action Jackson
02-14-2007, 12:32 AM
Merton, lau and Blaze said everything here that needs to be said.

R.Federer
02-14-2007, 12:58 AM
Well standards are not uniform for everyone. Nadal is the #2 player in the world who has owned or maybe still owns the #1 player, and who was playing finals and winning finals and going deep a lot. Reaching "only Qfs", a great achievement for 99% of the tour, is indeed a little bit different when applied to him.

That said, his current Suckage factor is nowhere near as bad as the other FO winners'.

Ferrero Forever
02-14-2007, 09:10 AM
Anyone else seem to notice this right now?
Nadal--hurt, sucking since Wimbledon final
Gaudio--sucking since he won FO
Ferrero--see Gaudio
Kuerten--chronic hip, sucking for years, mounting comeback
Moya--up and down since he won FO 9 years ago, sucking lately since loss to Blake at AO

What's up with this?

I really don't think this is true. Like many others have said, Nadal has been doing brilliantly, regardless of the fact he's injured. Backing up one RG title with another can hardly be called 'sucking after winning RG'. Gaudio and Kuerten I'm not too sure of so I won't comment. Ferrero won Madrid 2003, Aus Open Semis in 2004, USO Final 2003 and then injury got to him. It's not like he just went downhill without a cause, and I can hardly call getting back into the top 20 from being ranked 98 sucking. As for Moya he's been getting some quite good results lately (Final at Sydney this year springs to mind.) If he hadn't drawn Blake in the first round at the AO, then he could have gone really far into the tournament.


And just for the record, WHEN Federer wins RG, he will go on to continue writing the record books provided he remains healthy:D

Dougie
02-14-2007, 09:53 AM
Anyone else seem to notice this right now?
Nadal--hurt, sucking since Wimbledon final
Gaudio--sucking since he won FO
Ferrero--see Gaudio
Kuerten--chronic hip, sucking for years, mounting comeback
Moya--up and down since he won FO 9 years ago, sucking lately since loss to Blake at AO

What's up with this?

Interesting...I see a couple of possible reasons. A lot of the clay court specialists are vulnerable to injuries because of their playing styles. Nadal, for example will have some serious problems within a few years unless he adjusts his playing style.
Also, (I know a lot of people will disagree with this...) it might be a question of some certain "latin mentality". Their game is all about fire and soul, but once that fire goes out...There´s not much left(see Gaudio, Rios). In the long run, I see european and american players as more stable and mentally stronger.
These are the reasons that popped in to my head...

guille&tati4life
02-14-2007, 11:07 AM
Interesting...I see a couple of possible reasons. A lot of the clay court specialists are vulnerable to injuries because of their playing styles. Nadal, for example will have some serious problems within a few years unless he adjusts his playing style.
Also, (I know a lot of people will disagree with this...) it might be a question of some certain "latin mentality". Their game is all about fire and soul, but once that fire goes out...There´s not much left(see Gaudio, Rios). In the long run, I see european and american players as more stable and mentally stronger.
These are the reasons that popped in to my head...

Yes, i think a lot of people will disagree with that. Schuettler, Safin, Ginepri. All former top 15 players, Schuettler and Safin obviously being considerably higher, who have either totally slumped or seem to go up and down the rankings.
Where do the Aussies fit in? The Asians? Are they more likely to be stable or mentally strong iyo? Philipousis, Schrichiphan etc.
I don't think that it has much to do with where people come from. Stability and mental strength can be lacking in people all over the world.

Dougie
02-14-2007, 02:25 PM
Yes, i think a lot of people will disagree with that. Schuettler, Safin, Ginepri. All former top 15 players, Schuettler and Safin obviously being considerably higher, who have either totally slumped or seem to go up and down the rankings.
Where do the Aussies fit in? The Asians? Are they more likely to be stable or mentally strong iyo? Philipousis, Schrichiphan etc.
I don't think that it has much to do with where people come from. Stability and mental strength can be lacking in people all over the world.

Well, obviously I made too much of a generalization there...I certainly didn´t mean that players from some continent are automatically mentally strong and players from some other continent automatically weak. And I certainly didn´t mean all latin players are mentally weak, but in the long run some of them tend to fade away at surprisingly young age. Of course there are exceptions.

gusman890
02-14-2007, 02:28 PM
is Agassi the last FO to win more majors after winning @ RG?

Godiva
02-14-2007, 03:40 PM
and verkerk, puerta etc...

Fed was a finalist too but he immediately went on to win three consecutive slams.:p

casabe
02-14-2007, 04:01 PM
He managed to stay in the year end top ten the next year. I remember many haters said that his RG victory was a fluke and that he would go down after not defending it.

So true.After Roland Garros Gaudio made 3 finals in clay and was the best clay player in the world at the moment winning back to back Viña del Mar and Bs. As., and 3 more titles in 2005. So Gaudio should not be on that lis

MisterQ
02-14-2007, 04:53 PM
is Agassi the last FO to win more majors after winning @ RG?

Yes. (unless you count Nadal and Kuerten repeating at RG, of course)

In fact, in the 1990s, only Kafelnikov and Courier won another major other than the French.

gusman890
02-14-2007, 05:00 PM
gaudio did have a nice kick @ winning RG, winning 5 titles the next year.

but he is slowing in decline. Once being Double Bageled by fed, he isnt been the same.