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Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 05:33 AM
only once during the 90's did an event on atp tour have all 8 top seeded players making the QF'S
(event, year ??)

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 05:34 AM
My years for Agassi are correct. :p

More guesses... Chang in '89. Stich in '91. Carl-Uwe Steeb.

Yes, there is an interesting twist to the question and you were right with Agassi, but not for the second part of the question.

Leena
12-16-2004, 05:34 AM
what was Unusual about Francisco Clavet's 1st career title in Hilversum 1990 ?
Nobody cared?

They were the only matches he won all year?

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 05:35 AM
correct about clavet!

still no answer for 1968 french open Jun girls semi finalist?? :p

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 05:35 AM
My years for Agassi are correct. :p

More guesses... Chang in '89. Stich in '91. Carl-Uwe Steeb.

Chang was ranked #30 in 88
Stich was ranked # 42 in 91

Leena
12-16-2004, 05:35 AM
Yes, there is an interesting twist to the question and you were right with Agassi, but not for the second part of the question.
I don't understand how there's a twist with Agassi in '98. :confused:

Leena
12-16-2004, 05:38 AM
Chang was ranked #30 in 88
Stich was ranked # 42 in 91
Sigh...

Oooh... maybe Bjorkman or Bruguera in '97.

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 05:40 AM
I don't understand how there's a twist with Agassi in '98. :confused:

I am trying to throw you off. :) If you could get this it would be a good one as one of the people did have a bigger jump than the previous record holder except it was after Agassi's performance.

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 05:43 AM
nicolas lapentti in 1999 from ### >> 8th ?

Leena
12-16-2004, 05:43 AM
I am trying to throw you off. :) If you could get this it would be a good one as one of the people did have a bigger jump than the previous record holder except it was after Agassi's performance.
I'm very confused about what you're asking lol.

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 05:43 AM
only once during the 90's did an event on atp tour have all 8 top seeded players making the QF'S
(event, year ??)

Was it Tokyo 1991 where the top 8 seeded players went through to the quarters.

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 05:44 AM
damn, correct!

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 05:45 AM
nicolas lapentti in 1999 from ### >> 8th ?

Lapentti went from #90 to # 8 but since Agassi did it earlier, that is why it's not the previous record.

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 05:46 AM
that ranking q...
Philippoussis in 2002 : ###
2003: 9th ?

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 05:47 AM
oh previous...

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 05:47 AM
Bruguera in '97.

Well done you are right he moved from #81 to # 8 in that year.

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 05:48 AM
which player has won the 'comeback player of the year' award
twice!!?

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 05:49 AM
The Poo went from #80 to # 9 in 2003.

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 05:50 AM
which player has won the 'comeback player of the year' award
twice!!?

Younes El Ayanoui.

Leena
12-16-2004, 05:50 AM
Well done you are right he moved from #81 to # 8 in that year.
That's rather misleading, as the Olympics didn't count towards rankings then...

Jonas' year was more amazing.

Leena
12-16-2004, 05:51 AM
Here's a men's question:

Name the 2 men's players who have reached Mixed Doubles finals with Elena BOVINA (RUS)? :)

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 05:52 AM
That's rather misleading, as the Olympics didn't count towards rankings then...

Jonas' year was more amazing.

Well Bruguera did have a bigger ranking jump and that can't be disputed, how you want to measure to suit your own point of view can be.

It's like the Cañas vs Haas thing I think Cañas had a better comeback than Haas this year, but Haas has better numbers in that regard.

Leena
12-16-2004, 05:53 AM
I was just giving commentary for no reason. :p

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 05:55 AM
was not younes for the comeback........... well it mighta been, but some1 done it before him
ok: first ever player to win comeback player of the year award twice?

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 05:56 AM
was not younes for the comeback........... well it mighta been, but some1 done it before him
ok: first ever player to win comeback player of the year award twice?

Was it the man with huge forehand and Båstad king Magnus Gustafsson.

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 05:58 AM
nope, not magnus either

leena's q: nenad Zimonjic and mark knowles :p

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 06:01 AM
who paired up with Anna Kournikova in wimbledon mixed in 1999 and which round did they reach?

Leena
12-16-2004, 06:02 AM
who paired up with Anna Kournikova in wimbledon mixed in 1999 and which round did they reach?
Bjorkman, final. :)

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 06:03 AM
Mark Philippoussis for the comeback player.

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 06:05 AM
correct leena
in-correct gwh

another :
which 2 players did pete sampras defeat in the same rounds during his wimbledon winning runs of 1998 and 1999? (player and player)

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 06:07 AM
So Escude, Sampras beat the same player twice in his winning runs.

At a guess Henman and Pioline.

Leena
12-16-2004, 06:07 AM
correct leena
in-correct gwh

another :
which 2 players did pete sampras defeat in the same rounds during his wimbledon winning runs of 1998 and 1999? (player and player)
Henman, SF and Philippousis, QF :)

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 06:09 AM
on the sampras q..
gwh incorrect, leena correct :D

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 06:11 AM
still my 3 main qs to elude all:

most finals before 1st title, (number of finals, player, tournament, year?) eheh
winner of 2 comeback player award (player?)
and a losing girls french open SF'ist in 1968? (girl?) :p

Leena
12-16-2004, 06:11 AM
What ATP players look exactly like Tathiana Garbin and Denisa Chladkova? :p

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 06:12 AM
So there has been a player who has won the ATP comeback award twice?

It's not Muster is it.

Leena
12-16-2004, 06:13 AM
and a losing girls french open SF'ist in 1968? (girl?)

I'll guess Virginia Wade.

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 06:13 AM
nah not Muster

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 06:14 AM
I'll guess Virginia Wade.
Nop (im surprised you dont know this :angel: )

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 06:14 AM
still my 3 main qs to elude all:

most finals before 1st title, (number of finals, player, tournament, year?) eheh
winner of 2 comeback player award (player?)
and a losing girls french open SF'ist in 1968? (girl?) :p

1. Cedric Pioline lost 8 finals in a row and won Copenhagen in 1996 and beat Kenneth Carlsen.
2. Still working on it.
3. Rausla Islanova

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 06:21 AM
1. Cedric Pioline lost 8 finals in a row and won Copenhagen in 1996 and beat Kenneth Carlsen.
2. Still working on it.
3. Rausla Islanova
good effort..... it was 9 finals in a row..won his 10th in copenhagen yep

and 3. correct finally,Rausla Islanova, also known as Marat safin's mother :p

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 06:24 AM
It's funny that comeback one I have nearly named every player who has won it El Ayanoui, Muster, Gustafsson, Krajicek, Cañas, The Poo.

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 06:30 AM
here's a clue..
he was also a winner of the Newcomer of the year award as well once..

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 06:32 AM
Bruguera.

Leena
12-16-2004, 06:32 AM
good effort..... it was 9 finals in a row..won his 10th in copenhagen yep

and 3. correct finally,Rausla Islanova, also known as Marat safin's mother :p
I never knew Marat's mother's name. Nice fact. :)

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 06:34 AM
bruguera is correct !!
97 and 00 winner
1989 newcomer award

Leena
12-16-2004, 06:35 AM
Name a player who's won 4 titles on clay, yet everyone insults him for being the worst clay player ever and think he's an all-around bad guy.

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 06:36 AM
bruguera is correct !!
97 and 00 winner
1989 newcomer award

I remember when I saw Bruguera first play man he had Connors in stitches.

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 06:36 AM
Sampras!!?

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 06:36 AM
Name a player who's won 4 titles on clay, yet everyone insults him for being the worst clay player ever and think he's an all-around bad guy.

Quack quack, win a decent title then he might get some respect.

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 06:40 AM
This one still hasn't been answered yet.

Here is one and no cheating for this answer.

1. Who were the other two men besides Ivan Lendl to beat John McEnroe in 1984?
2. Where did they beat him?

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 06:41 AM
Last ever atp titles

Boris becker (title, year)
Stefan edberg (title, year)
Michael stich (title, year)
Michael chang (title, year)
Jim courier (title, year)

vogus
12-16-2004, 06:42 AM
Name a player since 1985 who has lost two grand slam semifinals to the same opponent in one calendar year (i can only think of one).

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 06:43 AM
Name a player who has lost two grand slam semifinals to the same opponent in one calendar year (i can only think of one).

This is a mens tennis question isn't it?

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 06:43 AM
This one still hasn't been answered yet.

Here is one and no cheating for this answer.

1. Who were the other two men besides Ivan Lendl to beat John McEnroe in 1984?
2. Where did they beat him?
id have never got that in a million years (just cheated :rolls: ) but i wont answer.

vogus
12-16-2004, 06:44 AM
This is a mens tennis question isn't it?


sorry yes mens, and i just edited to "since 1985" since i dont know anything before then.

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 06:45 AM
id have never got that in a million years (just cheated :rolls: ) but i wont answer.

Then again one of them was a very special defeat to, so I will see if anyone else looks at it.

I didn't cheat on the comeback one and that was hard. :)

vogus
12-16-2004, 06:47 AM
Name a player who's won 4 titles on clay, yet everyone insults him for being the worst clay player ever and think he's an all-around bad guy.


those 4 titles are all on green clay correct?

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 06:47 AM
good q vogus :scratch:

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 06:49 AM
was it agassi losing to Chang in semis of australian open and us open 1996? (agassi couldnt even take a set in any match)

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 06:50 AM
those 4 titles are all on green clay correct?

Incorrect as I already answered the question the guy is called Roddick and he won such prestigious titles like Atlanta, Houston 2x and St Pölten.

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 06:52 AM
was it agassi losing to Chang in semis of australian open and us open 1996? (agassi couldnt even take a set in any match)

Me thinks Escude is the winner in this one as Agassi did lose in straight sets both times to Chang.

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 06:54 AM
who was the only player to make at least 3 grand slam semi final appearences in 1994... ?

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 06:55 AM
Jim Courier.

vogus
12-16-2004, 06:56 AM
was it agassi losing to Chang in semis of australian open and us open 1996? (agassi couldnt even take a set in any match)


that's the one i was thinking of although i can't remember if Edberg lost twice to Lendl in '87 as well.


name all the grand slam semifinals of the past 20 years that have been contested between two left-handers.

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 06:57 AM
1994 semis: incorrect gwh

vogus
12-16-2004, 06:58 AM
Todd Martin

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 06:59 AM
correct !!!

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 06:59 AM
Todd Martin

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 07:01 AM
Gomez v Muster 90 RG

vogus
12-16-2004, 07:04 AM
Gomez v Muster 90 RG


damn, you're good if you got that one without looking it up... :worship:

Corey Feldman
12-16-2004, 07:05 AM
i'll be back with more qs later!

http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/spezial/Fool/mog.gif

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 07:06 AM
damn, you're good if you got that one without looking it up... :worship:

Considering I watched the match I shouldn't have to look it up.

There probably is a McEnroe vs Connors at the US Open somewhere when Lendl was making all those finals maybe 84 or 85.

vogus
12-16-2004, 07:09 AM
Considering I watched the match I shouldn't have to look it up.

There probably is a McEnroe vs Connors at the US Open somewhere when Lendl was making all those finals maybe 84 or 85.


yes, but it was '84, so it's already not in the last 20 years.

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 07:10 AM
Considering Korda vs Rios was a final and not a semi final it shouldn't be counted.

84-04 is 20 years.

vogus
12-16-2004, 07:14 AM
USO '84 is 20 years and three months ago, so i didn't count it. And AO '98 obviously was a final, so Gomez-Muster is the only one. 160 GS semis, and only 1 of them between two lefties.

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 07:15 AM
It's still until the year changes to 05 as I count it from 1.1 to 31.12.

vogus
12-16-2004, 07:19 AM
It's still until the year changes to 05 as I count it from 1.1 to 31.12.


in that case i can't remember who McEnroe defeated at '84 Wimbly and RG semis, whether or not it might have been a lefty (doubtful of course)

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 07:21 AM
I know for a fact he beat Connors at RG, but he sodomised him in the final of Wimbledon.

Satanic Pasteur
12-16-2004, 09:55 AM
1. Who were the other two men besides Ivan Lendl to beat John McEnroe in 1984?

I know Vijay Amritraj from India beat him (the guy played in a James Bond -Octopussy- the year prior his Mcenroe feat ;) )
The other defeat took place in a Davis Cup tie but I don't remember who that was or where :o

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 10:02 AM
I know Vijay Amritraj from India beat him (the guy played in a James Bond -Octopussy- the year prior his Mcenroe feat ;) )
The other defeat took place in a Davis Cup tie but I don't remember who that was or where :o

You are right about Vijay and where was it? You have the event right for the second one and there should be no help in this one to guess the player.

buddyholly
12-16-2004, 12:54 PM
Sundstrom

Leena
12-16-2004, 03:23 PM
Incorrect as I already answered the question the guy is called Roddick and he won such prestigious titles like Atlanta, Houston 2x and St Pölten.
Mattress Mac says Houston is neato.

And St. Poelten is in Europe, with those pesky Spanish players.

Go Andy! :banana:

vogus
12-16-2004, 04:39 PM
Mattress Mac says Houston is neato.

And St. Poelten is in Europe, with those pesky Spanish players.

Go Andy! :banana:


imo, from the look of Roddick's forehand and movement, he ought to have a better clay court game than Agassi and Safin, who both hit flatter forehands and are forced to hit more backhands - yes, great backhands, but on clay it's better positioning strategy to hit as many inside-out heavy topspin forehands as you can, and Roddick has that advantage. So with good serving thrown in i don't see why the Duck can't sneak a win at RG like Agassi has done, and like Safin should have done in '02.

buddyholly
12-16-2004, 04:46 PM
84-04 is 20 years.

Nope, it's 21.

Sjengster
12-16-2004, 09:54 PM
Amritraj's win was in the first round of Cincinnati, just like Hrbaty's over Federer this year, and just like that match McEnroe lost from a set up - although the score was 6-7, 6-2, 6-4, rather more convincing than Hrbaty's scoreline.

Two questions of my own:
Who are the only two active players to have won titles on five of the six tennis-playing continents?
Which player at which tournament has lost to the eventual champion for the past three years in a row?

Leena
12-16-2004, 10:00 PM
Who are the only two active players to have won titles on five of the six tennis-playing continents?

Moya, king of crap tournies, for sure. :p
Kuerten, I think.

Satanic Pasteur
12-16-2004, 10:04 PM
Agassi and Schalken ;)

Sjengster
12-16-2004, 10:07 PM
imo, from the look of Roddick's forehand and movement, he ought to have a better clay court game than Agassi and Safin, who both hit flatter forehands and are forced to hit more backhands - yes, great backhands, but on clay it's better positioning strategy to hit as many inside-out heavy topspin forehands as you can, and Roddick has that advantage. So with good serving thrown in i don't see why the Duck can't sneak a win at RG like Agassi has done, and like Safin should have done in '02.

Ah, to succeed on clay you need to hit as many forehands as possible - that explains why 4 out of the last 5 RG titles have been won by Kuerten, Costa and Gaudio, all with stronger backhands than forehands, why Verkerk got to last year's final with the backhand as his main groundstroke weapon, and why Coria kept winning countless points off Agassi in that same event by flicking backhands unexpectedly down the line for clean winners. What Agassi and Safin have that Roddick doesn't is good movement, strategy, patience, and guess what - strong groundstrokes off both sides. It's always possible to cite Moya as an example of a serve-forehand player with a weak backhand who is successful on clay, but once you get the two of them on that surface as in the DC you can see how superior Moya is to Roddick in many other vital areas of the claycourt game.

I don't see why Safin should have won in 2002 either; he almost lost to his mini-nemesis Jolly Ollie in the second round, he was nearly pushed to five sets by Nalbandian in the third round, in the quarters he thumped a Grosjean who was badly hindered by his thigh injury and would probably have retired were he playing anywhere else, and then he played terribly in the semis against Ferrero, who by contrast didn't put a foot wrong.

Sjengster
12-16-2004, 10:11 PM
It's always nice to mention something notable that Schalken has achieved... can anyone think of another player with his style of game who has won titles on all surfaces and in all continents? Actually, I suppose I'd better withdraw that question before someone points out that his game is a complete copy of Lendl's (the player he admired most while growing up).

Sjengster
12-16-2004, 10:23 PM
Kuerten's never won anything in Asia. Moya's never won anything in Australia, although he did lose back-to-back finals there in 1997: Sydney to Henman, the AO to Sampras. Plus the Sydney final this year, of course, when he got injured against Hewitt and then had to pull out of the AO - something seems to jinx him in Australia at the moment.

Leena
12-16-2004, 10:25 PM
Kuerten's never won anything in Asia. Moya's never won anything in Australia, although he did lose back-to-back finals there in 1997: Sydney to Henman, the AO to Sampras. Plus the Sydney final this year, of course, when he got injured against Hewitt and then had to pull out of the AO - something seems to jinx him in Australia at the moment.
Oops, I tried. :p

Sjengster
12-16-2004, 10:59 PM
I shouldn't worry about it, 'twas only an excuse for me to subtly brag about Schalken. Interestingly enough, he won his South American title in the same country as Agassi did, Brazil - and unsurprisingly, both events were on hardcourt. Itaparica was Agassi's first ever title, and at this rate Costa do Sauipe will be Schalken's last if he doesn't get back to full health...

vogus
12-17-2004, 03:03 AM
Ah, to succeed on clay you need to hit as many forehands as possible - that explains why 4 out of the last 5 RG titles have been won by Kuerten, Costa and Gaudio, all with stronger backhands than forehands, why Verkerk got to last year's final with the backhand as his main groundstroke weapon, and why Coria kept winning countless points off Agassi in that same event by flicking backhands unexpectedly down the line for clean winners. What Agassi and Safin have that Roddick doesn't is good movement, strategy, patience, and guess what - strong groundstrokes off both sides. It's always possible to cite Moya as an example of a serve-forehand player with a weak backhand who is successful on clay, but once you get the two of them on that surface as in the DC you can see how superior Moya is to Roddick in many other vital areas of the claycourt game.

I don't see why Safin should have won in 2002 either; he almost lost to his mini-nemesis Jolly Ollie in the second round, he was nearly pushed to five sets by Nalbandian in the third round, in the quarters he thumped a Grosjean who was badly hindered by his thigh injury and would probably have retired were he playing anywhere else, and then he played terribly in the semis against Ferrero, who by contrast didn't put a foot wrong.


Albert Costa has a stronger backhand than forehand?? Have you ever seen the guy play, or looked at his match statistics? Come on, man, you must be thinking of a different guy with the same name.

If the backhands of Costa, Gaudio and JCF (who you didn't mention) are so good, how come all three of them won Roland Garros by hanging out in the backhand corner (in the case of Costa, sometimes in the DOUBLES ALLEY) and ripping vicous topspin forehands at every possible opportunity? Why did Courier and Bruguera win a combined 4 RG titles using the same style? Add Gomez, Moya, and Muster to the list. Even Kuerten and Corretja, both of whom have tremendous backhands and five RG finals between them, still sometimes run around to hit forehands. Roddick has a good command of that basic strategy, plus he should be able to get more free points on his serve than any of the above players. If he believes in his game and serves to his ability (like Verkerk served last year) he can get an RG title.

Schalken, now there's a guy who has a better backhand than forehand. But wouldn't you agree, that clay is his worst surface?

Leena
12-17-2004, 03:15 AM
I always run around my backhand, I'll win RG too. :p

vogus
12-17-2004, 04:07 AM
I always run around my backhand, I'll win RG too. :p


yeah - and i'm going to win the mens title. But since we're both unranked, we should get started by playing qualies at the Tampa 10K Futures in three weeks - it's a combined men's/women's event. Is that too far for you to drive?

:p

Leena
12-17-2004, 04:12 AM
yeah - and i'm going to win the mens title. But since we're both unranked, we should get started by playing qualies at the Tampa 10K Futures in three weeks - it's a combined men's/women's event. Is that too far for you to drive?

:p
I'm playing 10k's next year in Baltimore, Evansville and St. Joseph. :)

I would have entered the Tampa ones, but that's a bit far away, and the 10k's during Aussie season usually are filled up with ranked players.

vogus
12-17-2004, 04:49 AM
I'm playing 10k's next year in Baltimore, Evansville and St. Joseph. :)

I would have entered the Tampa ones, but that's a bit far away, and the 10k's during Aussie season usually are filled up with ranked players.


i sympathize, it's not an easy transition from tennis message board cyber-icon to physical-world tennis star. :) But you should play somewhere in the spring...

actually last January i showed up and tried to enter in the Tampa 10K qualies, although as you noted, the men's was all filled up with ranked players. But i'm pretty sure the women's qualies had some byes.

Action Jackson
12-17-2004, 05:12 AM
Sundstrom

Thank you buddyholly that is correct and I know you didn't cheat as you would have been old enough to remember that.

Leena
12-17-2004, 05:14 AM
i sympathize, it's not an easy transition from tennis message board cyber-icon to physical-world tennis star. :) But you should play somewhere in the spring...

actually last January i showed up and tried to enter in the Tampa 10K qualies, although as you noted, the men's was all filled up with ranked players. But i'm pretty sure the women's qualies had some byes.
It's not that hard. :p

Ricky Williams was more of an internet freak than I am. And he was the best RB in the NFL. Then, he quit to smoke weed. Shit.

Leena
12-17-2004, 05:15 AM
Thank you buddyholly that is correct and I know you didn't cheat as you would have been old enough to remember that.
More questions, tall guy. And don't accuse me of cheating. :sad:

Action Jackson
12-17-2004, 05:15 AM
Albert Costa has a stronger backhand than forehand?? Have you ever seen the guy play, or looked at his match statistics? Come on, man, you must be thinking of a different guy with the same name.

Before I answer this I need to honestly know whether you are being serious with that above statement? If you are one of these who believes stats are the be and end all. There are two things that truly count it's either W or L.

vogus
12-17-2004, 05:28 AM
Before I answer this I need to honestly know whether you are being serious with that above statement? If you are one of these who believes stats are the be and end all. There are two things that truly count it's either W or L.


i don't believe stats are the be all end all, but when a guy has got 40 winners on his forehand side and 3 on his backhand, i believe that tells you something basic about his game.

Action Jackson
12-17-2004, 05:32 AM
i don't believe stats are the be all end all, but when a guy has got 40 winners on his forehand side and 3 on his backhand, i believe that tells you something basic about his game.

If you are talking about Moya then this wouldn't be an issue, but tell me where you saw that stat with Albert Costa. Considering the US doesn't have the greatest TV coverage of tennis and I would like to know how many matches on clay that you have watched of Albert Costa to come up with a statement that his forehand is better than his backhand?

vogus
12-17-2004, 05:33 AM
It's not that hard. :p

Ricky Williams was more of an internet freak than I am. And he was the best RB in the NFL. Then, he quit to smoke weed. Shit.


It's too bad you're not coming to Florida, we could go hit some balls, then drive down to Miami and visit Ricky...

Action Jackson
12-17-2004, 05:37 AM
More questions, tall guy. And don't accuse me of cheating. :sad:

Yes, considering I'm only 1m tall I love the fact that you call me tall guy.

Which two players have won an ATP title at their first attempt? Name the venue and year as well?

vogus
12-17-2004, 05:42 AM
If you are talking about Moya then this wouldn't be an issue, but tell me where you saw that stat with Albert Costa. Considering the US doesn't have the greatest TV coverage of tennis and I would like to know how many matches on clay that you have watched of Albert Costa to come up with a statement that his forehand is better than his backhand?


the match that really stands out in my mind is '02 RG R16 where Costa beat Kuerten, and Costa's forehand was just unbelievable. I have that match and the final on tape, also i saw Costa beat Robredo in '03. It's obvious which side he does the most damage on. But yeah, i made the 40-3 stat up, although i'm sure Costa routinely has three times as my fh winners as bh.

vogus
12-17-2004, 05:46 AM
Pete Sampras, Indian Wells '88? (a desperate guess)

Action Jackson
12-17-2004, 05:50 AM
the match that really stands out in my mind is '02 RG R16 where Costa beat Kuerten, and Costa's forehand was just unbelievable. I have that match and the final on tape, also i saw Costa beat Robredo in '03. It's obvious which side he does the most damage on. But yeah, i made the 40-3 stat up, although i'm sure Costa routinely has three times as my fh winners as bh.

I am sorry one match means nothing I have seen Roddick have very good days for him on his backhand, but that doesn't mean his backhand is better.

You see one match and all of a sudden you are an expert on Costa's game. Too bad you didn't see the 95 QF at RG against Muster and if you seriously tell me that it was his forehand that was doing the damage, then I suggest you are watching another sport.

It was the strength of his backhand that helped him push Muster in all those close matches he had. The 96 Monte Carlo final and 96 Rome semi finals were absolute battles and his backhand is his favourite shot and why would someone's weaker side be considered their favourite shot.

I was at the final in Kitzbhuel 95 when he beat Muster in the final, one of only 2 people to beat him on clay it wasn't the forehand that was doing the damage.

The main thing that helped him at 2002 RG was that he wasn't as passive as he used to be and he hit out on both sides. I am a Costa fan and seen plenty of his matches and there is no way his forehand would be considered a better shot.

vogus
12-17-2004, 05:59 AM
why would a player repeatedly run into the backhand alley to hit a forehand if his best shot is his backhand? There's no logic to that argument.

Against Muster Costa had to hit more backhands since Muster is a lefty, which didn't necessarily hurt him, since Costa's backhand is good, i didn't say it wasn't. But the fact that he prefers to hit his forehand when he can (like 95 percent of today's best clay courters) says it all.

Action Jackson
12-17-2004, 06:08 AM
why would a player repeatedly run into the backhand alley to hit a forehand if his best shot is his backhand? There's no logic to that argument.

Corretja when he was good did the same thing and his backhand is a better shot. Gaudio and Calleri do it and they have better backhands than forehands. You have noticed there are different ways of opening up the court and that is one of them.

Against Muster Costa had to hit more backhands since Muster is a lefty, which didn't necessarily hurt him, since Costa's backhand is good, i didn't say it wasn't. But the fact that he prefers to hit his forehand when he can (like 95 percent of today's best clay courters) says it all.

Thank you for informing me that Thomas Muster was a lefthander. MTF has provided me with some quality education.

Did you see the match when he beat Federer this year at Rome? He wasn't running around his backhand all the time or even close to half the time and he managed to do that.

95 percent of players don't on clay like Moya, Gonzalez or Zabaleta like the way you seem to think they do.

So is Costa a liar when he says this? Taken from his own website http://www.albert-costa.com/training/hotshots/default.asp

Albert's Backhand Weapon

Albert has always hit a one-handed backhand, even since his days in junior tennis. Many tour players will say it is one of the most dangerous and effective weapons on tour today. By making use of his weight transfer, balance, forearm strength and racquet head speed, Albert has maximized his strengths to develop one of the best shots in the game.

Action Jackson
12-17-2004, 06:10 AM
Pete Sampras, Indian Wells '88? (a desperate guess)

Not even close.

vogus
12-17-2004, 06:27 AM
sorry, but if a guy runs around his backhand to hit his forehand all or most of the time because he feels that's the way he can hit the most effective shot, then that means his forehand is his better shot. Costa does that. The only way you can win this argument with me is by re-defining the term "better". Maybe you want to say Costa's backhand is "prettier" than his forehand? I don't agree on that point either, but that's a matter of opinion.

Action Jackson
12-17-2004, 06:34 AM
sorry, but if a guy runs around his backhand to hit his forehand all or most of the time because he feels that's the way he can hit the most effective shot, then that means his forehand is his better shot. Costa does that. The only way you can win this argument with me is by re-defining the term "better". Maybe you want to say Costa's backhand is "prettier" than his forehand? I don't agree on that point either, but that's a matter of opinion.

You see 2 matches of Costa and you are an expert all of a sudden, not that I am, but I don't base my opinions on player just in 1 match. That wasn't me that wrote that link that I pasted, so in essence you are calling Costa a liar then? That was from his peers and himself and I notice you didn't comment about that match in Rome where he beat Federer? Did you see the match? Then again you might think I am a liar as well for saying that he didn't run around his forehand all the time.

I sincerely doubt you have watched enough of Costa's matches to make a concrete judgement. I have given examples of which players have better backhands and do the same thing. You don't know what you are talking about. Go see Costa vs Rios matches and tell me his forehand was a better and more effective shot.

Your Roddick on clay analysis was a laugh, there is no way he is going to win RG unless they change it to a hardcourt.

vogus
12-17-2004, 06:59 AM
Again, Rios, like Muster, is a lefty, which changes the geometry of the court. You have been rather rude and you have also failed to make any points that convince me that i am not right - i'll have to re-watch my three Costa matches on tape, but i doubt my opinion regarding his forehand is going to change based on that. I guess we'll just have to wait and see whether or not Roddick delivers in Paris one of these years. Have a good night.

Action Jackson
12-17-2004, 07:11 AM
Again, Rios, like Muster, is a lefty, which changes the geometry of the court. You have been rather rude and you have also failed to make any points that convince me that i am not right - i'll have to re-watch my three Costa matches on tape, but i doubt my opinion regarding his forehand is going to change based on that. I guess we'll just have to wait and see whether or not Roddick delivers in Paris one of these years. Have a good night.

Ok, don't try to play I have been rude card when you feel the need to tell me that Rios and Muster were left handers as if I didn't know that already, that is just as bad as my alleged rudeness.

Well his backhand drive cross court and down the line has given guys like Cañas, Kafelnikov and Corretja plenty of problems. He tied Sampras in knots at the Aus Open with his backhand and made it jump to Pete's backhand and it was only Sampras's ability that got him through that match.

Ok, so coming from Costa's own mouth and from his peers that the backhand is his best shot is rubbish then? Try watching more Costa matches and then there would be some more basis to those thoughts.

As for Roddick, well the DC final against Moya showed why he won't win a major title on clay in Europe. You need more than a serve and his forehand is a hardcourt forehand and not as effective on clay, he doesn't move well enough, he doesn't have the endurance or the will to consistently grind out matches on his weakest surface and he is tactically inept ( he did very well in that field against Nadal), but one match doesn't mean a thing in the overall picture.

Satanic Pasteur
12-17-2004, 10:49 AM
Which two players have won an ATP title at their first attempt? Name the venue and year as well?

Santiago Ventura, Casablanca 2004
I thought Hewitt was the other one by triumphing in Adelaïde 1998 but he played one tournament prior to this one :o

Leena
12-17-2004, 05:11 PM
Yes, considering I'm only 1m tall I love the fact that you call me tall guy.

Which two players have won an ATP title at their first attempt? Name the venue and year as well?
That's quite tall. .99m taller than Mimi.

I'm answering this question for WTA, because I can.

Justine Henin - '99 Antwerp
Mirjana Lucic - '97 Bol
Katarina Srebotnik - '99 Estoril
Angelique WIDJAJA (INA) G! - '01 Bali

Corey Feldman
12-17-2004, 05:14 PM
Santiago Ventura, Casablanca 2004
I thought Hewitt was the other one by triumphing in Adelaïde 1998 but he played one tournament prior to this one :o
i think nicolas lapentti won in bogota somewhere in 1995 in his 1st event
hewitt played the 1997 australian open

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 01:55 AM
* which Czech won 4 titles from 5 finals in 1991 and had his only atp year end top 10 ranking?
* which player defeated Kafelnikov and Sampras back too back in 1995 Masters cup (or atp champs in Hannover) and still didnt qualify from the group!!?
*Mats wilander won 3/4 grand slams in 1988, which slam did he fail to win and who beat him, round as well? (slam, player, round wilander lost in)
*How many titles did Michael Stich win on German soil in 1993, and can you name them?
*1995 Australian open semi finalists were all Americans... Pete Sampras, Michael Chang, Andre Agassi and ????
*what was unique about the 1991 Chicago Indoor final?
*complete the 4th "superstar :p " player who lost in the 1996 Wimbledon Quarter finals alongside Sampras, Ivanisevic and Henman?
*Before losing to Marat Safin (in 2004 semi finals) who was the last player to defeat Andre Agassi at the Australian Open ?

Leena
12-18-2004, 02:17 AM
which Czech won 4 titles from 5 finals in 1991 and had his only atp year end top 10 ranking?

Karel Novacek, probably. I just remember he was 10th seed against Connors at US Open, and sucked.

which player defeated Kafelnikov and Sampras back too back in 1995 Masters cup (or atp champs in Hannover) and still didnt qualify from the group!!?

Wayne Ferreira.

Mats wilander won 3/4 grand slams in 1988, which slam did he fail to win and who beat him, round as well? (slam, player, round wilander lost in)

Wimbledon, Mecir... I don't know round. I'll guess 4th.

1995 Australian open semi finalists were all Americans... Pete Sampras, Michael Chang, Andre Agassi and ????

Aaron Krickstein.

what was unique about the 1991 Chicago Indoor final?

I think that was the year of John vs. Patrick.

complete the 4th "superstar " player who lost in the 1996 Wimbledon Quarter finals alongside Sampras, Ivanisevic and Henman?

Radulescu. He was good.

Before losing to Marat Safin (in 2004 semi finals) who was the last player to defeat Andre Agassi at the Australian Open ?

Spadea. Yay.

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 02:21 AM
good :clap2:

7 from 8 (or 6.5 since wilander lost the QF to the cat :p )

damn, i'll needa think of more qs now!

Leena
12-18-2004, 02:23 AM
I have no idea on the Stich one. :sad:

I'll guess Hamburg, Berlin and Dusseldorf.

Oh, and Frankfurt. I forgot YEC used to be there.

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 02:37 AM
*which player once had a 6-2 head too head advantage over Sampras (eventually finishing 6-4 up over the pistol) ?
*this guy beat Sampras in 1991 Cincinnati, Paris open and Davis cup finals?
*which Australian lost to Cedric Pioline in the 1993 U.S open semi finals?
*This russian proved reaching the Quarter finals of the 1992 U.S open was no fluke when he reached the Semi finals in 1993?
*Andre Agassi's head too head record with Wayne ferreira? and how many sets has wayne taken from Agassi? (head to head, sets won for wayne)
*Agassi led Boris becker 3-1 in career grand slam Semi final meetings, where and when was Becker's only victory?
*Jim Courier finally defeated Boris becker after the (##) meeting between the pair?
*Only player to have defeated Tim Henman in 3 seperate grand slams (us open, french open, australian open) is??

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 02:41 AM
I have no idea on the Stich one. :sad:

I'll guess Hamburg, Berlin and Dusseldorf.

Oh, and Frankfurt. I forgot YEC used to be there.
not quite :p
actually even im struggling with that q :o he reached 5 finals in Germany that year and won two........ 1 was YEC in frankfurt yep!

Leena
12-18-2004, 02:48 AM
which player once had a 6-2 head too head advantage over Sampras (eventually finishing 6-4 up over the pistol)

Krajicek? or Stich?

this guy beat Sampras in 1991 Cincinnati, Paris open and Davis cup finals?

I forget. ;)

which Australian lost to Cedric Pioline in the 1993 U.S open semi finals?

Jamie something or Masur. I can't remember which.

This russian proved reaching the Quarter finals of the 1992 U.S open was no fluke when he reached the Semi finals in 1993?

Volkov, he cheated over Muster.

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 02:58 AM
Volkov, is correct :)

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 03:14 AM
*This 19 year old led Sampras 4-2 and 40-15 in fifth set of 1997 Australian open 4th round before eventually going down?
*Dutchman who knocked out J.Mcenroe en-route to the 1991 U.S open Quarter finals?
*He won his 1st career title in Toulouse the week his manager died?
*This little Italian won his one and only career title in Brisbane 1991??
*German veteran who's 3 career titles came in Newport 1995, Ostrava 1996 and Halle 2000?
*This Swiss Mr turned a 0-9 career record in World Team cup into a 4 match unbeaten streak over Becker, Enqvist, Bruguera and Ulihrach to help his nation win the trophy in 1996?
*this Frechman's usual consitancy was halted in 1995 and 1996 due to a stint in the military?
*He beat Ivan Ljubicic for the 1996 Wimbledon Junior title and 4 years later appeared in the Mens Semi Finals?
*the 1992 French Open Junior champion was???
*Aussie who won his 1st career title in Auckland 1986?
*This player beat Pete Sampras in the 1988 US open 1st round (sampras' first ever grand slam) then sensationally knocked world No1 Pistol Pete out again in 4th round in 1994?

Leena
12-18-2004, 03:21 AM
This 19 year old led Sampras 4-2 and 40-15 in fifth set of 1997 Australian open 4th round before eventually going down?

Hrbaty.

Dutchman who knocked out J.Mcenroe en-route to the 1991 U.S open Quarter finals?

Haarhuis, which led to the same question being asked 13423142 times against every unknown player in the early rounds: "John, did you ever lose to someone you never heard of before?"

This player beat Pete Sampras in the 1988 US open 1st round (sampras' first ever grand slam) then sensationally knocked world No1 Pistol Pete out again in 4th round in 1994?

Jaime Yzaga.

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 03:24 AM
3/3! not bad!

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 04:39 AM
i think nicolas lapentti won in bogota somewhere in 1995 in his 1st event
hewitt played the 1997 australian open

Mr Escude you are correct Nico Lapentti won Bogota.

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 04:55 AM
*He won his 1st career title in Toulouse the week his manager died?

Nico Escude

*This little Italian won his one and only career title in Brisbane 1991??

Pozzi

*German veteran who's 3 career titles came in Newport 1995, Ostrava 1996 and Halle 2000?

David Prinosil

*This Swiss Mr turned a 0-9 career record in World Team cup into a 4 match unbeaten streak over Becker, Enqvist, Bruguera and Ulihrach to help his nation win the trophy in 1996?

Marc Rosset

*this Frechman's usual consitancy was halted in 1995 and 1996 due to a stint in the military?

Cedric Pioline

*He beat Ivan Ljubicic for the 1996 Wimbledon Junior title and 4 years later appeared in the Mens Semi Finals?

Vlad Voltchkov


*the 1992 French Open Junior champion was???


Andrei Pavel

*Aussie who won his 1st career title in Auckland 1986?

Mark Woodforde

Leena
12-18-2004, 04:57 AM
Hi, cutie.

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 05:00 AM
Who is the only player to at least have reached the semi finals of every Slam and not won any of them?

liptea
12-18-2004, 05:00 AM
Good job, George!

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 05:06 AM
6/8 for George

2 wrong....
*He won his 1st career title in Toulouse the week his manager died? not escude
*this Frechman's usual consitancy was halted in 1995 and 1996 due to a stint in the military? not Pioline

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 05:08 AM
Hi, cutie.

You weren't talking to me where you?

Leena
12-18-2004, 05:10 AM
Good job, George!
I feel so left out.

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 05:10 AM
Who is the only player to at least have reached the semi finals of every Slam and not won any of them?
Mecir...
aus, us open finals
french, wimbledon semis...

liptea
12-18-2004, 05:10 AM
Good job, Leena!

liptea
12-18-2004, 05:11 AM
Mecir...
aus, us open finals
french, wimbledon semis...

Gosh, I racked my brain so hard to find that one. And it wasn't there anywhere. :sad: I'm not old enough to remember Mecir.

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 05:11 AM
6/8 for George

2 wrong....
*He won his 1st career title in Toulouse the week his manager died? not escude
*this Frechman's usual consitancy was halted in 1995 and 1996 due to a stint in the military? not Pioline

For the manager was that the Poo.

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 05:12 AM
Poo is correct :)

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 05:13 AM
Mecir...
aus, us open finals
french, wimbledon semis...

Nice easy one. I think I am going to make a few which player am I questions now.

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 05:14 AM
Ooooohh good , like those

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 05:16 AM
Ooooohh good , like those

You are not going to like some of these that I am going to ask.

Leena
12-18-2004, 05:17 AM
I'll ask some women's ones too since GWH hates girls.

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 05:18 AM
here's 1 i'll try

*who was the only player to take a set from Krajicek at wimbledon 1996 and curiously done it again in 1998 (krajicek losing only 1 set throughout the whole championships before his semi final loss to Ivanisevic) ?

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 05:20 AM
Was Henri Leconte the guy who had to do the military service.

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 05:21 AM
not Leconte.

Leena
12-18-2004, 05:22 AM
here's 1 i'll try

*who was the only player to take a set from Krajicek at wimbledon 1996 and curiously done it again in 1998 (krajicek losing only 1 set throughout the whole championships before his semi final loss to Ivanisevic) ?
Brett Steven.

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 05:23 AM
I'll ask some women's ones too since GWH hates girls.

I wouldn't be allowed to ask these questions on a WTA board, then again for some reason they don't like you over there. The title does read Useless Mens Trivia. :)

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 05:23 AM
Brett Steven.
:clap2:

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 05:23 AM
Fabrice Santoro.

Leena
12-18-2004, 05:24 AM
I wouldn't be allowed to ask these questions on a WTA board, then again for some reason they don't like you over there. The title does read Useless Mens Trivia. :)
Bleh, fine.

Go ahead.

vogus
12-18-2004, 05:25 AM
Arnaud Boetsch?

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 05:26 AM
Arnaud Boetsch?
No :D

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 05:27 AM
Santoro it was :clap2:
wd george

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 05:32 AM
Bleh, fine.

Go ahead.

Come on Leena, you know it's all in good fun and I will eventually vote for you in that other thread.

Here are the few easy warm up who am I questions. The only clue is that they are retired.

1 a. Which player when playing tournaments in the US, never stayed in hotels unless it was raining?
b. This player was also fluent in another language? What was that language?

2. Which player withdrew from their spot in the Spanish Olympic team in Barcelona and who was his replacement?

3. He won 3 career titles and 2 of them were TMS titles, which were the titles?

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 05:33 AM
Just to clear up an answer from an earlier question...
Michael Stich's performances in Germany 1993: Won stuttgart indoor, Hamburg TMS, Masters cup and Davis cup final in Germany, and was Runner Up in Munich, World Team cup, Stuttgart Outdoor, and Grand Slam cup :eek: 4-4

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 05:35 AM
He won every event that was played in Germany at least once.

liptea
12-18-2004, 05:42 AM
This thread makes me feel so stupid. :sad:

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 05:46 AM
This thread makes me feel so stupid. :sad:

Think about it as learning, there are quite a few trivia things on here I didn't know automatically.

Leena
12-18-2004, 06:04 AM
1 a. Which player when playing tournaments in the US, never stayed in hotels unless it was raining?
b. This player was also fluent in another language? What was that language?

I remember hearing about this during some tourney, but can't remember who it is. I'm thinking Goran.

2. Which player withdrew from their spot in the Spanish Olympic team in Barcelona and who was his replacement?

Clavet?

3. He won 3 career titles and 2 of them were TMS titles, which were the titles?

Mancini, and maybe Pernfors also.

liptea
12-18-2004, 06:05 AM
I didn't know the Spanish one, either, I was thinking it was Brugera...

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 06:10 AM
I remember hearing about this during some tourney, but can't remember who it is. I'm thinking Goran.

No.


Mancini, and maybe Pernfors also.

Mancini is correct. Name the titles and the year.

Clavet is wrong and even if he was the right guy, the answer would still be wrong as it needs two players. The original player and his replacement.

Leena
12-18-2004, 06:12 AM
Don't be mean.

Mancini won 2 clay ones in '89.. Rome was one, not sure on the other. I'll guess Monte Carlo.

Arrese was the replacement. I'll guess Carlos Costa then.

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 06:16 AM
Don't be mean.

Mancini won 2 clay ones in '89.. Rome was one, not sure on the other. I'll guess Monte Carlo.

Arrese was the replacement. I'll guess Carlos Costa then.

You got the Mancini one right, and I see you used the search option to find out the Spanish Olympic one. :)

I am going to make these a lot harder now.

Leena
12-18-2004, 06:18 AM
You got the Mancini one right, and I see you used the search option to find out the Spanish Olympic one. :)

I am going to make these a lot harder now.
I'm not cheating!

I knew Arrese was the replacement, since he made the final and was never highly ranked.

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 06:21 AM
I'm not cheating!

I knew Arrese was the replacement, since he made the final and was never highly ranked.

I should be a real pain and ask why he was replaced, but that wouldn't be fair. :)

You still have 1a and 1b to answer yet.

Leena
12-18-2004, 06:23 AM
I should be a real pain and ask why he was replaced, but that wouldn't be fair. :)

You still have 1a and 1b to answer yet.
Because he had a big serve, and that's so not Spanish.

I don't know 1a.

Ask new ones. :p

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 06:24 AM
Come on Leena, you know it's all in good fun and I will eventually vote for you in that other thread.

Here are the few easy warm up who am I questions. The only clue is that they are retired.

1 a. Which player when playing tournaments in the US, never stayed in hotels unless it was raining?
b. This player was also fluent in another language? What was that language?

2. Which player withdrew from their spot in the Spanish Olympic team in Barcelona and who was his replacement?

3. He won 3 career titles and 2 of them were TMS titles, which were the titles?
hm no idea for any :scratch:

more from me before bed...
*Russian..... Quarter finals of Australian open, US open 1990..... French Open 1992 ?
*Swede....Quarter finals of US open in 1993, 1997, 1998 ....Semi finals french open 1994?
*Israeli .... Quarter finals 1992 Australian Open.
*Costa Rican... Winner of 1999 Bastad
*Frenchman.... Semi Finals Wimbledon 1986; Quarter finals 85,87...Semi Finals French open 1986, 1992; Quarter finals 85,90..... US Open Quarter finals 1986.
*Slovak.....Semi Finals Australian Open 1998; Quarter finals 1999..... U.S open Quarter finals 1998.
*Japanese...... Wimbledon Quarter finals 1995.

*Brit :p ..... Semi Finals Wimbledon 1998, 1999, 2001, 2002; Quarter finals 1996, 1997, 2003, 2004......Semi finals in french and US open 2004 :rolleyes:


:wavey: http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/spezial/Fool/mog.gif

Leena
12-18-2004, 06:31 AM
hm no idea for any :scratch:

more from me before bed...
*Russian..... Quarter finals of Australian open, US open 1990..... French Open 1992 ?
*Swede....Quarter finals of US open in 1993, 1997, 1998 ....Semi finals french open 1994?
*Israeli .... Quarter finals 1992 Australian Open.
*Costa Rican... Winner of 1999 Bastad
*Frenchman.... Semi Finals Wimbledon 1986; Quarter finals 85,87...Semi Finals French open 1986, 1992; Quarter finals 85,90..... US Open Quarter finals 1986.
*Slovak.....Semi Finals Australian Open 1998; Quarter finals 1999..... U.S open Quarter finals 1998.
*Japanese...... Wimbledon Quarter finals 1995.

*Brit :p ..... Semi Finals Wimbledon 1998, 1999, 2001, 2002; Quarter finals 1996, 1997, 2003, 2004......Semi finals in french and US open 2004 :rolleyes:


:wavey: http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/spezial/Fool/mog.gif
Cherkasov, Larsson, Mansdorf, don't know, Leconte, Kucera, Matsuoka, Henman

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 06:33 AM
Because he had a big serve, and that's so not Spanish.

I don't know 1a.

Ask new ones. :p

Actually Carlos Costa's serve wasn't that big, then again we might have vogus saying that Carlos Costa had a better forehand than backhand.

That wasn't the reason actually. :p

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 06:33 AM
Juan Antonio Marin won Båstad that year.

Leena
12-18-2004, 06:35 AM
Oh yeah, Marin. I remember him choking against Pete.

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 06:37 AM
This is the one that is still unanswered and will be a challenge.

1 a. Which player when playing tournaments in the US, never stayed in hotels unless it was raining?

b. This player was also fluent in another language? What was that language?

Leena
12-18-2004, 06:40 AM
I don't know.

Where did he stay then?

liptea
12-18-2004, 06:52 AM
I don't know.

Where did he stay then?
In a trash can on the side of the road?

I bet I got this question right.

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 06:56 AM
I don't know.

Where did he stay then?

There is already quite a clue within both parts of the question already, think laterally. It's not like he was a joke of a player.

liptea, it's not Mike Tyson.

Leena
12-18-2004, 06:58 AM
When it comes to player's languages, I don't have the slightest clue. :sad:

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 07:05 AM
When it comes to player's languages, I don't have the slightest clue. :sad:

All I said there is a clue there. I won't give the nationality as that would be too easy.

Some easier questions.

1. What was unique about France winning the 2001 Davis Cup?
2. What unusual fact seperated Andrei Chesnokov from his peers during his playing days?
3. Who were the only 2 guys to defeat Muster on clay in 1995? The venue is also required as well.
4. How many Slam doubles titles has Mats Wilander won? If he has, who was his partner, what year and which title?

Leena
12-18-2004, 07:17 AM
1. What was unique about France winning the 2001 Davis Cup?

They won in AussieTrailia, on grass at Rod Laver Arena which is usually rebound ace? They had to beat Wayne Arthurs in the final match?

3. Who were the only 2 guys to defeat Muster on clay in 1995? The venue is also required as well.

Easy one for me. :p

Corretja - Gstaad 1st round
Filippini - Amsterdam 2nd round w/o

I don't know about Chesnokov, and doubles doesn't matter.

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 07:21 AM
They won in AussieTrailia, on grass at Rod Laver Arena which is usually rebound ace? They had to beat Wayne Arthurs in the final match?

That is not the actual answer I was looking for. It's not unique that they won in Australia, but you are on the right track.

Easy one for me. :p

Corretja - Gstaad 1st round
Filippini - Amsterdam 2nd round w/o

Only partially right as I don't count the w/o, it's actually very obvious who the other one was to do it in 95. The answer is staring you in the face and yes the venue is required.

Leena
12-18-2004, 07:25 AM
I didn't put Costa. Oops. Kitzbuhel final. :p

He won with his forehand.

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 07:29 AM
I didn't put Costa. Oops. Kitzbuhel final. :p

He won with his forehand.

Too bad I can't rep you for that comment. I was there in the crowd for that match, it was a wonderful match.

Jorge
12-18-2004, 07:57 AM
*I was very amused reading a contest fight but it's getting boring so better I am gonna :zzz:*
But first I want to post some useless trivias that surely GWH will answer without any problems:

1. what is the "real name" of Pancho González and why he was called "Pancho"
2. who was the "first" latin-american to reach the no. 1 in the world ranking, in what year he achieved that feat and what is his nickname.
3. who is the person who according to John McEnroe is the one who "taught" him to play tennis (McEnroe said it during his speech at the USopen this year)

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 08:01 AM
Jorge, welcome along and I don't know all the answers and that fight well what can you say I produced clear evidence and if someone doesn't want to believe it, then that's their choice. That is over now.

vogus
12-18-2004, 08:03 AM
Actually Carlos Costa's serve wasn't that big, then again we might have vogus saying that Carlos Costa had a better forehand than backhand.

That wasn't the reason actually. :p


And you probably think Thomas Muster's backhand was a bigger weapon than his forehand.

Name the 1990s ATP journeyman who never cracked the Top 100, but counts among his fewer than 30 career Tour maindraw wins, victories over 3 different US Open champions.

Jorge
12-18-2004, 08:08 AM
Jorge, welcome along and I don't know all the answers and that fight well what can you say I produced clear evidence and if someone doesn't want to believe it, then that's their choice. That is over now.

mmm I guess we are talking about different "fights",GWH: this one is pretty recent.

can I give you some hints? or do you prefer to search or definitively to skip the questions? you tell me

vogus
12-18-2004, 08:12 AM
#2 - Rios. After he smoked Agassi he chucked his Yonex into the crowd only about ten rows from where i was sitting. It was in Miami '98, and if you were there you can't forget that scene. The whole place went apeshit.

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 08:15 AM
mmm I guess we are talking about different "fights",GWH: this one is pretty recent.

can I give you some hints? or do you prefer to search or definitively to skip the questions? you tell me

I am not sure about that fight you are talking about, but I will talk about that later.

1. what is the "real name" of Pancho González and why he was called "Pancho"

Ricardo Gonzalez ? The second part I don't know why.

2. who was the "first" latin-american to reach the no. 1 in the world ranking, in what year he achieved that feat and what is his nickname.

Was it Marcelo Rios. I know his nickname was "El Chino" and it was 1998.

3. who is the person who according to John McEnroe is the one who "taught" him to play tennis (McEnroe said it during his speech at the USopen this year)

Harry Hopman

Jorge
12-18-2004, 08:15 AM
#2 - Rios. After he smoked Agassi he chucked his Yonex into the crowd only about ten rows from where i was sitting. It was in Miami '98, and if you were there you can't forget that scene. The whole place went apeshit.
wrong, Ríos wasn't the first latinamerican to reach the number one although he was the 1st one in the open era. 1st hint. ;)

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 08:18 AM
Pancho Gonzalez.

Jorge
12-18-2004, 08:18 AM
I am not sure about that fight you are talking about, but I will talk about that later.

1. what is the "real name" of Pancho González and why he was called "Pancho"

Ricardo Gonzalez ? The second part I don't know why.

2. who was the "first" latin-american to reach the no. 1 in the world ranking, in what year he achieved that feat and what is his nickname.

Was it Marcelo Rios. I know his nickname was "El Chino" and it was 1998.

3. who is the person who according to John McEnroe is the one who "taught" him to play tennis (McEnroe said it during his speech at the USopen this year)

Harry Hopman


1. yes Ricardo Alonso González. about his nickname think about a famous mexican called Pancho.

2. no Marcelo wasn't see above

3. wrong, Mcenroe did mention another person during his speech. hint: he was his coach... you have to know this time ;)

Jorge
12-18-2004, 08:20 AM
Pancho Gonzalez.
I suppose this is the answer to who was the first latinamerican who reached the no.1 right?

well no, technically Pancho González is not latin-american, he did born in LA but you are gettin closer

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 08:23 AM
And you probably think Thomas Muster's backhand was a bigger weapon than his forehand.

Don't reflect away from the subject at all and since when was Muster mentioned in this besides as an opponent for Costa, you got ripped and proved that after seeing 2 matches of a particular player doesn't make you an expert. It's like I can't talk effectively about women's tennis as I don't watch enough of it and won't ever do so. Ok, I gave you link from Costa's website, so you are saying what he thinks and what his peers say is bullshit?

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 08:26 AM
I suppose this is the answer to who was the first latinamerican who reached the no.1 right?

well no, technically Pancho González is not latin-american, he did born in LA but you are gettin closer

I wasn't sure that Vilas ever got to #1 though he should have.

Jorge
12-18-2004, 08:28 AM
I wasn't sure that Vilas ever got to #1 though he should have.
yes he should have... but he never got the no. 1

another hint about this player: he won the USopen in singles and doubles and Wimbledon in doubles before the open era

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 08:32 AM
The only way I might have guessed this was a cheat Rafael Osuna and Jorge my knowledge doesn't go that far back.

Jorge
12-18-2004, 08:36 AM
The only way I might have guessed this was a cheat Rafael Osuna and Jorge my knowledge doesn't go that far back.
bingo! Rafael Herrera Osuna aka "el pelón Osuna" (the baldy Osuna) although he wasn't bald :scratch:
I'll give you the year: 1963
about the 1st. question Ricardo Alonso González being "chicano" (mexican born in USA) was compared with the most famous mexican (at least at that time) "Pancho Villa" hence the nickname "Pancho"

about the third question is easy but one hint more: he won wimbledon doubles partnering Osuna and lead Mexico to face Australia in the final of the Davis CUp

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 08:38 AM
These questions remain unanswered.

1 a. Which player when playing tournaments in the US, never stayed in hotels unless it was raining?

b. This player was also fluent in another language? What was that language?

2. What was unique about France winning the 2001 Davis Cup?
3. What unusual fact seperated Andrei Chesnokov from his peers during his playing days?
4. How many Slam doubles titles has Mats Wilander won? If he has, who was his partner, what year and which title?

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 08:39 AM
Raul Ramirez.

Jorge
12-18-2004, 08:40 AM
Raul Ramirez.
No, Raúl never played doubles with Rafael Osuna and never coached JohnnyMac

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 08:46 AM
No, Raúl never played doubles with Rafael Osuna and never coached JohnnyMac

Antonio Palafox and that was not because I knew it. I mean I don't even go that far back with the questions I have asked. :)

Jorge
12-18-2004, 08:58 AM
Antonio Palafox and that was not because I knew it. I mean I don't even go that far back with the questions I have asked. :)

yes Antonio "el potrillo" Palafox.

He was the man who was praised by Mcenroe during his speech earlier this year at USopen as the person who taught him to play tennis. He coached John Mcenroe, he won wimbledon partnering Osuna and represented Mexico in the final of the Davis Cup in 1962 (the first latinamerican country that achieved this feat)

I just wanted to ask some trivias a bit chauvinistic to show how in other times México had great tennis players who reached the no. 1 who won the USopen and wimbledon who reached the final of the Davis Cup who played the masters several years (like Raúl Ramírez) who were ranked no1 in doubles as well, etc. sadly currently Mexico has not top players... the good times went with the wind. :sad:

can you see it? "Socrates's maieutic" works... or google works :p anyway it doesn't matters, the source is not important, the knowledge is... Good Night. :wavey:

Action Jackson
12-18-2004, 09:01 AM
Name the 1990s ATP journeyman who never cracked the Top 100, but counts among his fewer than 30 career Tour maindraw wins, victories over 3 different US Open champions.

A tough one but I was reading about him in a tennis magazine the illustrious Aussie otherwise known as Neil Borwick he defeated Lendl and Becker, but only beat Rafter at a challenger level and he definitely had less than 30 wins.

Satanic Pasteur
12-18-2004, 12:15 PM
2. What was unique about France winning the 2001 Davis Cup?

They played all their ties abroad.


3. What unusual fact seperated Andrei Chesnokov from his peers during his playing days?

Maybe the fact he broke his leg BADLY once while playing tennis :devil:


1 a. Which player when playing tournaments in the US, never stayed in hotels unless it was raining?

I don't have a clue on this one, the only "rain man" I know being Dustin Hoffman and me thinks he is not a retired player ;)

Sjengster
12-18-2004, 01:57 PM
1a. Medvedev? It sounds like the sort of eccentric trait and dislike of American venues that he would have.

3. Chesnokov was the only ATP pro to be coached by a woman?

Fascinating questions all right, but ahem... I did have another question besides my excuse to boast about Schalken a few pages ago. Which player at which tournament has lost to the eventual champion for the past three years in a row? There may be more, but I can only think of one at the moment.

vogus
12-18-2004, 03:59 PM
3. Chesnokov was the only ATP pro to be coached by a woman?
.


damn he beat me to it. The woman's name was Tatyana something, and later coached Nadya Petrova on the WTA...

vogus
12-18-2004, 04:02 PM
A tough one but I was reading about him in a tennis magazine the illustrious Aussie otherwise known as Neil Borwick he defeated Lendl and Becker, but only beat Rafter at a challenger level and he definitely had less than 30 wins.


that's a good guess, but this guy that i am talking about got all three of his wins at big tournaments (a small hint).

RonE
12-18-2004, 07:28 PM
These questions remain unanswered.

1 a. Which player when playing tournaments in the US, never stayed in hotels unless it was raining?

b. This player was also fluent in another language? What was that language?

2. What was unique about France winning the 2001 Davis Cup?
3. What unusual fact seperated Andrei Chesnokov from his peers during his playing days?
4. How many Slam doubles titles has Mats Wilander won? If he has, who was his partner, what year and which title?

I only know #4- 1 title at Wimbledon in 1986 partnering Joakim Nystrom.

As for the other questions I have no clue whatsoever :o

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 07:44 PM
what was unique about france winning 2001 davis cup hmmmmm....
every round was away from home?? (just a lame guess)

i remember Nico's great wins v the No1 player on the other team in QF, SF, and F i think :woohoo:

RonE
12-18-2004, 09:02 PM
1. What was unique about France winning the 2001 Davis Cup?


Patrick Rafter played in his last singles and doubles match before retiring. He beat Grosjean for his last singles victory to date 6-3, 7-6(8), 7-5 and lost his last doubles match with Hewitt to Pioline and Santoro 6-2, 3-6, 6-7, 1-6.

Also Pioline was on the team and he always had his disagreements with the French Tennis Federation and I think that was the first and only time France won a DC title with Cedric on their team.

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 09:07 PM
nahh, Pioline was in the winning french team in 1996 , i remember him blowing a match v envqist in the final

RonE
12-18-2004, 09:13 PM
nahh, Pioline was in the winning french team in 1996 , i remember him blowing a match v envqist in the final

So in that case I have NFI :p

Corey Feldman
12-18-2004, 09:32 PM
:lol: exactly ronE.... a little more studying your tennis you! and less misbehaving lad :aplot:
;)

Corey Feldman
12-19-2004, 12:58 AM
who is it...

* in his best season he won Estoril, Barcelona, New Haven and lost finals in Halle and Paris Open.
*one of his best seasons he won Scottsdale, Munich, Queen and lost finals in Toulouse and Basel.
*2 Swedes made it into the Quarter Finals of the 1996 Australian Open....Thomas Enqvist and??
*one of his best seasons he won Washington, Long Island, Vienna and lost finals in Munich, French Open, Toulouse and Basel.
*his best season he won titles in Tokyo, Halle, Tashkent and lost the finals in Dubai and Vienna.
*best ever year...he won title in Munich, Bastad, Hilversum and lost finals in Hamburg, Kitzbuhel and Prague.
* in a great year he won Hawaii, Indianapolis, Bordeaux, Basel and Tel Aviv , also losing finals in Rotterdam and Manchester.
*in his best season he won Nottigham and Basel ; lost finals in Zagreb, San jose, U.S open and Vienna.

Leena
12-19-2004, 01:29 AM
* in his best season he won Estoril, Barcelona, New Haven and lost finals in Halle and Paris Open.
Medvedev, probably.
*one of his best seasons he won Scottsdale, Munich, Queen and lost finals in Toulouse and Basel.
Don't know. I'll guess Gambill.
*2 Swedes made it into the Quarter Finals of the 1996 Australian Open....Thomas Enqvist and??
Tillstrom.
*one of his best seasons he won Washington, Long Island, Vienna and lost finals in Munich, French Open, Toulouse and Basel.
Korda 92?
*his best season he won titles in Tokyo, Halle, Tashkent and lost the finals in Dubai and Vienna.
Prinosil?
*best ever year...he won title in Munich, Bastad, Hilversum and lost finals in Hamburg, Kitzbuhel and Prague.
Don't know... Larsson?
* in a great year he won Hawaii, Indianapolis, Bordeaux, Basel and Tel Aviv , also losing finals in Rotterdam and Manchester.
Ferreira.
* in a great year he won Hawaii, Indianapolis, Bordeaux, Basel and Tel Aviv , also losing finals in Rotterdam and Manchester.
No idea. Stoltenberg? :p

Corey Feldman
12-19-2004, 01:33 AM
correct was: Medvedev, Tillstrom, korda 92 (extra :clap2: for the year :) ), and Ferreira.... so 4!

Jim Jones
12-19-2004, 01:40 AM
nice questions. How about this one. In the pro. era what is the minimum number of titles that a Grand Slam winner has won throughout his career on the main tour & who is it?

Corey Feldman
12-19-2004, 01:42 AM
Gaudio 3??

vogus
12-19-2004, 02:24 AM
who is it...

*in his best season he won Nottigham and Basel ; lost finals in Zagreb, San jose, U.S open and Vienna.


Rusedskiy

Corey Feldman
12-19-2004, 02:25 AM
yep... 5/8 completed.

vogus
12-19-2004, 02:29 AM
*his best season he won titles in Tokyo, Halle, Tashkent and lost the finals in Dubai and Vienna.


Kiefer?

vogus
12-19-2004, 02:33 AM
nice questions. How about this one. In the pro. era what is the minimum number of titles that a Grand Slam winner has won throughout his career on the main tour & who is it?


Is it Johansson with 5?

vogus
12-19-2004, 02:36 AM
What is unusual about the '04 RG and '96 Wimbly mens finals compared to all other Grand Slam finals played in the last two decades?

Corey Feldman
12-19-2004, 02:49 AM
more...

*one of his best season he Won Tashkent and Basel; Finals in Sydney and Los Angeles and Semi Finals in Wimbledon, Miami, Toronto, Stockholm and Masters Cup?
*Swede who lost a 5 set thriller V. Leconte in 1992 French Open Quarter Finals?
*Frenchman went 3-0 v Sampras on clay during his career (including 6-1 6-1 drubbing in Monte Carlo 1998) ?
*one of his best years seen him win a career best 5 titles in one season, those were Auckland, Philadelphia, Indianapolis, US clay court Championships and Stockholm and also going to the Semi finals in his debut year end championships ?
*This legend racked up 10 finals in one season at the age of 22 with titles at Adelaide, Prague, French Open, Lyon and finals in Rotterdam, St Petersburg, Halle, Stuttgart Outdoor, Paris Open and Moscow?
*In Bastad, this Swede won 1st of many career titles after coming back from 1-5 down in the third set Vs Adrian Voinea in an earlier round?
*He claimed the Halle title over Michael Stich after saving 7 match points during the final?
*This 5 time year end top ten player enjoyed plenty of success in French, Australian and U.S opens.... but went 0-4 career at Wimbledon and 0-5 career at the Grand Slam Cup? :p

Corey Feldman
12-19-2004, 02:50 AM
*his best season he won titles in Tokyo, Halle, Tashkent and lost the finals in Dubai and Vienna.


Kiefer?
correct... 6/8 on that batch!

Corey Feldman
12-19-2004, 02:52 AM
What is unusual about the '04 RG and '96 Wimbly mens finals compared to all other Grand Slam finals played in the last two decades?
Both finals between first time slam finalists?

vogus
12-19-2004, 03:06 AM
incorrect - RG '90, '85 Wimbly, USO '97, and RG '02 finals were also between 1st-time GS finalists.

vogus
12-19-2004, 03:25 AM
and re-posting last night's question, which nobody got: Name the 1990s ATP journeyman who never cracked the Top 100, but counts among his fewer than 30 career Tour maindraw wins, victories over 3 different US Open champions.

Corey Feldman
12-19-2004, 04:20 AM
Hmm dunno any of them :(

Action Jackson
12-19-2004, 04:39 AM
what was unique about france winning 2001 davis cup hmmmmm....
every round was away from home?? (just a lame guess)

i remember Nico's great wins v the No1 player on the other team in QF, SF, and F i think :woohoo:

That was right every win was away from home.

Leena
12-19-2004, 04:43 AM
That was right every win was away from home.
I think Wayne Arthurs having to play the deciding match for the Davis Cup is the bigger anomaly.

Jorge
12-19-2004, 04:44 AM
Name one juniors champion of any GS who was actually "older" than the winner of the same event (male singles) in the same year. (in the open era)

Leena
12-19-2004, 04:48 AM
Whoever won junior RG 1982 or 1989 :p

Action Jackson
12-19-2004, 04:49 AM
nice questions. How about this one. In the pro. era what is the minimum number of titles that a Grand Slam winner has won throughout his career on the main tour & who is it?

Andres Gimeno won 1 title and that was the 72 Roland Garros.

Corey Feldman
12-19-2004, 04:51 AM
Name one juniors champion of any GS who was actually "older" than the winner of the same event (male singles) in the same year. (in the open era)
leonardo lavalle was wimby Jun champ in 85.... few months older than Becker when he won the mens title?

Action Jackson
12-19-2004, 04:52 AM
These questions remain unanswered.

1 a. Which player when playing tournaments in the US, never stayed in hotels unless it was raining?

b. This player was also fluent in another language? What was that language?

A clue he played within the era of the late 80s and until the mid to late 90s.

Corey Feldman
12-19-2004, 04:53 AM
Gimeno won 5 career titles

i think it was bill bowrey, 1968 australian open champion, his 1 and only.

Leena
12-19-2004, 04:54 AM
These questions remain unanswered.

1 a. Which player when playing tournaments in the US, never stayed in hotels unless it was raining?

b. This player was also fluent in another language? What was that language?

A clue he played within the era of the late 80s and until the mid to late 90s.
Muster? :p

Jorge
12-19-2004, 04:55 AM
leonardo lavalle was wimby Jun champ in 85.... few months older than Becker when he won the mens title?
Escude wins the contest by KO :yeah:
Leonardo Lavalle was 4 months and 8 days older then Becker when he won the Juniors title defeating his compatriot Eduardo Vélez in 1985

Action Jackson
12-19-2004, 04:58 AM
Gimeno won 5 career titles

i think it was bill bowrey, 1968 australian open champion, his 1 and only.

How are we classifying this as I read Gimeno had won one and only one title. Yet you say he won 5.

Corey Feldman
12-19-2004, 04:59 AM
These questions remain unanswered.

1 a. Which player when playing tournaments in the US, never stayed in hotels unless it was raining?

b. This player was also fluent in another language? What was that language?

A clue he played within the era of the late 80s and until the mid to late 90s.
can we have another clue please! :D

Corey Feldman
12-19-2004, 05:03 AM
How are we classifying this as I read Gimeno had won one and only one title. Yet you say he won 5.
he won 5...1971 Hamburg, 1972 eastbourne, Gstaad, LA and french open.

gaudio 3- 2002 estoril, barcelona 2004 French

bowrey-1 Aus open 68... (well i think thats what the guy who wrote the question was wanting :shrug: )

Action Jackson
12-19-2004, 05:04 AM
can we have another clue please! :D

It's not easy trying to find the right clue to give as I don't want to make it too easy, but all I will say he is from a country where they are not well known for speaking other languages and no he is not Italian.

Action Jackson
12-19-2004, 05:08 AM
he won 5...1971 Hamburg, 1972 eastbourne, Gstaad, LA and french open.

gaudio 3- 2002 estoril, barcelona 2004 French

bowrey-1 Aus open 68... (well i think thats what the guy who wrote the question was wanting :shrug: )

There must have been something about the way those tournaments were classified and I find that very strange, then again we have the same problem with Connors who won 109 titles, but I would say he won 74.

Maybe it was because it wasn't all under the one organisation at the time, that there are discrepancies.

Jorge
12-19-2004, 05:08 AM
another easy one:
USA Tennisplayer who represented Brazil during his last years as active player?

Jorge
12-19-2004, 05:12 AM
I will say he is from a country where they are not well known for speaking other languages and no he is not Italian.
He must be from USA... Aaron Krickstein perhaps?