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Brawl Down Under.....Gotta love the fans!

HappyAndie
01-15-2007, 03:34 AM
http://tennisnews.com/exclusive.php?pID=16129

Police eject 150 fighting tennis fans from Australian Open
Photo by Getty Images

Police reported that up to 150 fighting fans were ejected from Melbourne Park as rival Serbian and Croatian tennis supporters clashed on opening day of the Australian Open.

Officials played down the unprecedented incident which occurred after eyewitness reports of Serbians jeering Croatians in the stands on an outside court watching a match won by ninth-seeded Croatian Mario Ancic.

Police said that the two groups of fans began hurling bottles and beer cups at each other in the Garden Square section of Melbourne Park. Up to 40 officers and security personnel quickly moved to break up the battles.

Police sought to play down the incident, saying that they moved quickly isolate the ringleaders. They were to meet with Tennis Australia officials to determine what steps might be needed to prevent similar incidents.

The countries, both once part of the Serbia-dominated former Yugoslavia, fought a war in the early 1990s, with Croatia proudly earning independence.

Since then, the new European nation has gone onto consistent sporting glory, including winning the 2005 Davis Cup. Serbia, with Top 20 players Novak Djokovic, Jelena Jankovic and Ana Ivanovic, has begun crashing the tennis party.

:lol:

El Legenda
01-15-2007, 03:38 AM
:rolls:

just saw it on ESPN2

not really suprised...this happens a lot between the two...soccer matches are crazy...

flip_fan
01-15-2007, 03:43 AM
They arent even tennis fans.. just football thugs looking to cause a scene.

It's good they were all kicked out and i'm sure after today tournament officials will be make sure security are all over them for the rest of the week.

El Legenda
01-15-2007, 03:43 AM
http://img2.menstennisforums.com/500/72998961.jpg

marti_228
01-15-2007, 03:48 AM
Nice!

Metis
01-15-2007, 03:49 AM
:haha:

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/34/full.getty-72632865wj031_australian_op_9_06_16_pm.jpg

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/3d/full.getty-72632865wj026_australian_op_9_04_30_pm.jpg

HappyAndie
01-15-2007, 03:49 AM
Theyz lookin' gangsta! :lol:

RickDaStick
01-15-2007, 03:49 AM
I would love to see a croatian player play a serb. there would be many casulties.......

Cat9
01-15-2007, 03:50 AM
Which side was making the Nazi salutes?

El Legenda
01-15-2007, 03:50 AM
:haha:

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/34/full.getty-72632865wj031_australian_op_9_06_16_pm.jpg


people eating up there are probably sayin...this is getting good...:p

UncleZeke
01-15-2007, 03:51 AM
hope they see some jail time.

tangerine_dream
01-15-2007, 03:52 AM
Just another reason why countries should deport all Croats. :p

El Legenda
01-15-2007, 03:52 AM
I would love to see a croatian player play a serb. there would be many casulties.......

Ljubicic played and beat Djokovic...in Zagreb.

Fee
01-15-2007, 03:52 AM
Which side was making the Nazi salutes?

The Yugoslav side ;)

RickDaStick
01-15-2007, 03:52 AM
Ljubicic played and beat Djokovic...in Zagreb.


im talking about australia

El Legenda
01-15-2007, 03:52 AM
Just another reason why countries should deport all Croats. :p

most croats in Aus have Aussie passports :)

Jimnik
01-15-2007, 03:53 AM
I can see why parents are afraid to take their children to tennis matches.

"Son, this is the part where the game gets.... extremely violent."

El Legenda
01-15-2007, 03:53 AM
The Yugoslav side ;)

:lol:

Socket
01-15-2007, 03:53 AM
Which side was making the Nazi salutes?

Croats.

Fee
01-15-2007, 03:53 AM
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/3d/full.getty-72632865wj026_australian_op_9_04_30_pm.jpg

Fighting over the keys to the last Yugo...

Byrd
01-15-2007, 03:54 AM
I think I see Xristos in there ;)

El Legenda
01-15-2007, 03:54 AM
this is great for tennis...ESPN had it on right away :lol:

gomarray
01-15-2007, 03:54 AM
Cilic vs. Bozoljac will be quite an event tomorrow!

Jimnik
01-15-2007, 03:55 AM
Cilic vs. Bozoljac will be quite an event tomorrow!
Can't wait. :drool:

Fee
01-15-2007, 03:56 AM
I think I see Xristos in there ;)

Really? Is it possible to get bageled in a street brawl?

Socket
01-15-2007, 03:57 AM
Fee is on a roll tonight! :haha:

2moretogo
01-15-2007, 03:58 AM
The hitler salutes were a little unneccessary, but whatever floats your boat Serbia!

El Legenda
01-15-2007, 03:58 AM
Cilic vs. Bozoljac will be quite an event tomorrow!

all knives, guns, hand grenades must be checked before entering the venue :lol:

TMJordan
01-15-2007, 03:58 AM
Cilic vs. Bozoljac will be quite an event tomorrow!

hahaha hell will break lost after Ilia wins, the Croats think Cilic is the next Federer, he is not and Ilia will lay the smack down on him...hell will break lose.

Fee
01-15-2007, 03:59 AM
Fee is on a roll tonight! :haha:

I know, I feel possessed by Jon Stewart or something (but that Xristos one was too easy, when someone serves it up to your wheelhouse, you just have the hit the FH winner down the line). :lol:

I think I'm done for now, 3 is usually my limit.

el_croata
01-15-2007, 03:59 AM
Just another reason why countries should deport all Croats. :p

another proud american macho
LOL

I will deport myself after put few more green ones in my bank account

TMJordan
01-15-2007, 03:59 AM
The hitler salutes were a little unneccessary, but whatever floats your boat Serbia!

That was Croatia doing that


I think :confused:

2moretogo
01-15-2007, 04:02 AM
I on ESPN it was Serbia, how funny would it be if both sides were actually fighting over who could salute the best.

scoobs
01-15-2007, 04:02 AM
I admire their dedication - one man was having a brawl wearing flip-flops, which is not an easy thing to do.

uglyamerican
01-15-2007, 04:04 AM
I admire their dedication - one man was having a brawl wearing flip-flops, which is not an easy thing to do.

In Australia, the brawls are much more laid-back.

scoobs
01-15-2007, 04:05 AM
One thing I don't understand - Serbia and Croatia give each other high marks every single year in the Eurovision Song Contest.

El Legenda
01-15-2007, 04:07 AM
One thing I don't understand - Serbia and Croatia give each other high marks every single year in the Eurovision Song Contest.

thats how it in 85% of the cases between Seriba,Croatia and Bosnia ...but you always have some idiots leftover

Mistaflava
01-15-2007, 04:08 AM
What a bunch of pussies swinging sticks at each other...

tangerine_dream
01-15-2007, 04:08 AM
I will deport myself after put few more green ones in my bank account
That is typical behavior of greedy, money-grubbing illegal immigrants. ;)

uglyamerican
01-15-2007, 04:09 AM
One thing I don't understand - Serbia and Croatia give each other high marks every single year in the Eurovision Song Contest.

:lol: At least something brings the people together.

felldownagain
01-15-2007, 04:10 AM
It looks like effete posturing to me.

El Legenda
01-15-2007, 04:10 AM
What a bunch of pussies swinging sticks at each other...

nice start to your AO betting 0-3 :haha: :haha: :retard:

uglyamerican
01-15-2007, 04:11 AM
thats how it in 85% of the cases between Seriba,Croatia and Bosnia ...but you always have some idiots leftover

If the doubles teams haven't been submitted yet, we should petition for some mixed Serb/Croat teams.

gomarray
01-15-2007, 04:12 AM
Well I'm not surprised they give each other high marks, I have never seen the accordion played with such brilliance.

njnetswill
01-15-2007, 04:16 AM
They should deport dumbasses off this board.

El Legenda
01-15-2007, 04:21 AM
They should deport dumbasses off this board.

you? :confused:

njnetswill
01-15-2007, 04:35 AM
you? :confused:

No we are fine.:angel:

Hrastar
01-15-2007, 09:39 AM
Proudly staying out of this since 1991 :p (at least trying to) :D

BlakeJamitis
01-15-2007, 09:50 AM
Those pics are funny becuz they all look like TERRIBLE fighters. LOL

tripb19
01-15-2007, 09:51 AM
These people are moronic peasants.

I blame Mario Ancic, because he had nothing to do with it.

RonE
01-15-2007, 10:00 AM
Awesome.

uglyamerican
01-15-2007, 10:34 AM
What a bunch of silly people. Just the people involved, not the nations they claim to represent. I thought we might have an international incident, but it turned out to be quite the comical farce.

The one thing that truly brings everyone together: laughing at fools.

Xristos
01-15-2007, 10:43 AM
I think I see Xristos in there ;)

No I wasnt. But I heard the Greeks helped out the Serbs...

Ernham
01-15-2007, 10:49 AM
Those pics are funny becuz they all look like TERRIBLE fighters. LOL

Looks don't say much about fighters. See Chuck Liddell or Fedor Emelianenko.

Jogy
01-15-2007, 11:04 AM
sore looser bunch of Croats :mad:

make your wars in your countries and shoot your heads there, but leave the peace Australian Open alone! :banghead:

Ferrero Forever
01-15-2007, 11:39 AM
what was funny, is that most people at melbourne park had no idea it was going on. my mum called me telling me to be careful, and i had no idea what the hell she was on about

Rafa = Fed Killa
01-15-2007, 11:40 AM
To all croats who are Lluboho fans...

...sit down and shut up and stop cheering for Lluboho.

Peta Pan
01-15-2007, 11:46 AM
As soon as the draw came out I thought that Cilic v Bozoljac match was going to be very entertaining and I wanted to be there... now I will definitely be there (just staying out of both sides way :scared: ).

Didn't see any of this coz I was elsewhere but it's always on the cards here with such big communities of Croats and Serbs here.

Guybrush
01-15-2007, 01:09 PM
Croats think Cilic is the next Federer

Who said that? :rolleyes:

Guybrush
01-15-2007, 01:15 PM
One thing I don't understand - Serbia and Croatia give each other high marks every single year in the Eurovision Song Contest.

Croatia gives 12 points to Serbia because serbs are the 2nd larger etnic group in Croatia and they all vote for Serbia. Croatians cannot vote for Croatia so they spread their votes to all the countries so Serbia is sure to take 12 points.

Serbians give high votes to Croatia because Croatian performers are listened in Serbia a lot, so they are like home performers.

Anyway both sucks, I hate all ex Yugoslavian music (and movies), even if I've lived in Croatia all my life. Sometimes I think I was born in a wrong nation. :D

Peta Pan
01-15-2007, 01:23 PM
Croatia gives 12 points to Serbia because serbs are the 2nd larger etnic group in Croatia and they all vote for Serbia. Croatians cannot vote for Croatia so they spread their votes to all the countries so Serbia is sure to take 12 points.

Serbians give high votes to Croatia because Croatian performers are listened in Serbia a lot, so they are like home performers.

Anyway both sucks, I hate all ex Yugoslavian music (and movies), even if I've lived in Croatia all my life. Sometimes I think I was born in a wrong nation. :D

And I always love both the Croatian and Serbian entries in Eurovision :lol:

But that is just going wayyyy off topic :p :lol:

Deathless Mortal
01-15-2007, 01:27 PM
Those guys are idiots!!! A shame half of them were Croats, they're ruining the sport... What a shame... Really sad and stupid...

Deathless Mortal
01-15-2007, 01:29 PM
Croatia gives 12 points to Serbia because serbs are the 2nd larger etnic group in Croatia and they all vote for Serbia. Croatians cannot vote for Croatia so they spread their votes to all the countries so Serbia is sure to take 12 points.

Serbians give high votes to Croatia because Croatian performers are listened in Serbia a lot, so they are like home performers.

Anyway both sucks, I hate all ex Yugoslavian music (and movies), even if I've lived in Croatia all my life. Sometimes I think I was born in a wrong nation. :D

Ceca rules! loooooooooooool
I hate that music too, movies less-more... I liked "Ko to tamo peva", but exept that nothing much... You weren't born in wrong nation, it's not our fault, this what happened, but it sure is sad that those guys are Croats... :sad:

Guybrush
01-15-2007, 01:29 PM
sore looser bunch of Croats :mad:

Are you stupid or what?! First of all there where Croats and Serbs involved, why you are attacking only Croats? And that was on the match of a CROATIAN players (Ancic), so why SERBS where there? The answer is simple...

Anyway I'm not defending Croats, all the idiots that take part in fights (no matter who starts them) are the same for me. :o

And this are only a group of idiots that do not represent their countries. England also have hooligans, but no one thinks all English people are hooligans, no? ;)

Grofica
01-15-2007, 01:30 PM
it is shame that 150 people made unnecessery fuss in the purely sport event!! I don't care who they are, they are just 150 idiots, and they are not doing favor neither to Croats nor Serbian players!!
and what makes me angry that some people because of incidents like this, tend to generalize things to whole nations, no metter in this case Serbs or Croats!!

Deathless Mortal
01-15-2007, 01:32 PM
it is shame that 150 people made unnecessery fuss in the purely sport event!! I don't care who they are, they are just 150 idiots, and they are not doing favor neither to Croats nor Serbian players!!
and what makes me angry that some people because of incidents like this, tend to generalize thingd to whole nations, no metter in this case Serbs or Croats!!

:yeah:
Hope we don't hate each other ;)

Grofica
01-15-2007, 01:33 PM
:yeah:
Hope we don't hate each other ;)

I don't have reason to hate you :)

Deathless Mortal
01-15-2007, 01:34 PM
Just another reason why countries should deport all Croats. :p

:rolleyes:

Deathless Mortal
01-15-2007, 01:36 PM
I don't have reason to hate you :)

Right... :angel:

ljubicic_
01-15-2007, 01:43 PM
That's stupid from Serbia! they are insulting us but they are the ones who are getting the beatings:rolleyes: when will they ever learn that Croats are much stronger and that itt is better to leave us allone?

Grofica
01-15-2007, 01:45 PM
That's stupid from Serbia! they are insulting us but they are the ones who are getting the beatings:rolleyes: when will they ever learn that Croats are much stronger and that itt is better to leave us allone?

:haha:

Deathless Mortal
01-15-2007, 01:46 PM
Don't bother, that guy is an idiot, on my ignore list.

ljubicic_
01-15-2007, 01:47 PM
:haha:


Can you say something instead of showing us only smillies?

Grofica
01-15-2007, 02:01 PM
Can you say something instead of showing us only smillies?

on some people is shame vasting energy, you are on of those people :)

Deathless Mortal
01-15-2007, 02:04 PM
And today is the 15th anniversary of Croatia's independence... On that day this fight...

ljubicic_
01-15-2007, 02:05 PM
on some people is shame vasting energy, you are on of those people :)

really, that comment hurts me a lot!:confused:

Sunset of Age
01-15-2007, 02:17 PM
Horrible...! If anything I'd hate to see tennis attract hooligans... but I guess it's already happening. Ugh.

tennis2tennis
01-15-2007, 02:54 PM
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42450000/jpg/_42450227_brawl_getty_203.jpg

el_croata
01-15-2007, 02:57 PM
That is typical behavior of greedy, money-grubbing illegal immigrants. ;)


well, first of all, I am not illegal
second - just doing my job and earning money where american retards are not capable of doing it

and third, immigrants built this country

enzogiovanni
01-15-2007, 03:19 PM
See the video of the "encounter": http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/scp_v3/viewer/index.php?pid=16471&rn=248153&cl=1671063&ch=248154

2 things:

sad thing to happen at a tennis match
GO MARIN!!!!!!!!!!!

Guybrush
01-15-2007, 03:29 PM
well, first of all, I am not illegal
second - just doing my job and earning money where american retards are not capable of doing it

True. My cousin went to the USA during the war as a refugee without nothing (he was happy to save his life). Now (10 years later) he is the general manager of the 4th hotel in the entire USA (customer choice). And he will manage another hotel from the same chain soon. And here in Croatia he was just a waiter! :D

el_croata
01-15-2007, 03:35 PM
True. My cousin went to the USA during the war as a refugee without nothing (he was happy to save his life). Now (10 years later) he is the general manager of the 4th hotel in the entire USA (customer choice). And he will manage another hotel from the same chain soon. And here in Croatia he was just a waiter! :D


well, your cousin was supose to stay there and fight as many of us did
I left after war was over

alfonsojose
01-15-2007, 03:39 PM
Stupid hooligans :mad:

Guybrush
01-15-2007, 03:41 PM
well, your cousin was supose to stay there and fight as many of us did
I left after war was over

Maybe you were suposed to stay here and help rebuilding the country as many of us did. ;)

cmurray
01-15-2007, 03:45 PM
That's too bad. I doubt these guys were actual tennis fans. They were, I presume, just looking for a reason to fight.


Might I just say that there is a lot of politicking on here today. :rolleyes:

morningglory
01-15-2007, 03:59 PM
:lol:

el_croata
01-15-2007, 03:59 PM
Maybe you were suposed to stay here and help rebuilding the country as many of us did. ;)


dude, after 4 years in war I deserved some rest as well
btw, didn't have to be there , but have chosen so

Raquel
01-15-2007, 06:26 PM
See the video of the "encounter": http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/scp_v3/viewer/index.php?pid=16471&rn=248153&cl=1671063&ch=248154



:lol: at the Serbian interviewed - "They went for the smallest guy. Look how small he is!" - while pointing at the poor guy.

Those Croatians interviewed sounded pretty Australian to me ;) before we start badmouthing the Croatians.

Either way, a shame it happened and good that no innocent people nearby got hurt in it.

GlennMirnyi
01-15-2007, 07:18 PM
:haha:

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/34/full.getty-72632865wj031_australian_op_9_06_16_pm.jpg

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/3d/full.getty-72632865wj026_australian_op_9_04_30_pm.jpg

Do you really find this funny?

Neely
01-15-2007, 07:27 PM
Damn, I was shocked to read about this. What a shame that a small amount of people must cause such trouble :banghead: :o

Metis
01-15-2007, 08:06 PM
Do you really find this funny?

I find it ridiculous...

Experimentee
01-16-2007, 03:02 PM
Damn, I'm pissed that I missed all this! I must have been on the other side of Melb Park.

Henry Chinaski
01-16-2007, 03:20 PM
not often you see a sporting hooligan in full-flow wearing flip-flops. I can't see it catching on to be honest. A total lack of foresight on his part it has to be said.

tangerine_dream
01-21-2009, 05:28 PM
Croat hooligans at it again. :rolleyes: These barbaric countries with no tennis history are ruining the sport with their disgusting behavior.

http://tennisworld.typepad.com/string_theory/2009/01/fan-wars.html

FAN WARS

We know the Australian Open as a place of upsets and upstarts, but it's often a place of unrest, too. Two years ago, tournament officials ejected 150 Serbian and Croatian fans after a melee on the grounds. Last year, local police confronted rowdy Greek fans and unleashed pepper spray on them, causing an uproar in the local press.

Confrontation is not uncommon at the major tournaments--tennis is a truly global game whose fans travel the world (not to mention live in countries far from their native lands). But these incidents seem to occur more often in Melbourne, perhaps because this tournament has grown so quickly in the last 20 years and remains, in terms of square footage, rather small. When you pack people of many different ethnicities into a tiny place, and subject them to 100-degree temperatures, blood tends to boil a little more quickly than usual (for more on overcrowding at the majors, read this excellent piece by Doug Robson of USA Today).

Yesterday was one of those days in Melbourne. On Show Court 2, Marin Cilic, the 20-year-old talent from Croatia, squared off against Janko Tipsarevic, the tattooed and philosophical Serb who pushed Roger Federer to five sets here last year. Cilic won the first two sets with relative ease, but Tipsarevic worked his way back into the match--and the fans became more animated. There's no love lost between Croatians and Serbians, and Cilic, the favorite and ahead in the match, felt besieged by the verbal attacks. Asked what the fans were shouting at him, Cilic said, "You don't want to know."

There's no love lost between Serbians and Bosnians, either. The second match on Court 13, which is a short walk from Show Court 2, featured Paul-Henri Mathieu and Amer Delic, the Bosnian-American who fled Bosnia (with his family) as a 14-year-old. When Cilic had finished off Tipsarevic, the Serbian fans walked over to the Delic match and began to taunt Delic's Bosnian fans, who responded in kind. By that time it was late in the fourth late (Delic at one point trailed 4-1). Delic was caught in the middle; Henri-Mathieu--not known as good under pressure--was, to say the least, confused.

"I felt bad for Paul and I apologized to him right after it happened," Delic said. "Here I am in the middle and he doesn't know what the hell is going on, he can't understand any of it, and I can understand all of it. I tried to calm my side down. I can't yell at the other guys."

Delic, a 25-year-old former standout at the University of Illinois, whose coach at the time was Australian Open tournament director Craig Tiley, eventually prevailed (1-6, 3-6, 6-3, 7-6(3), 9-7) and reached the third round of a major for the first time in his career. He is the first lucky loser to reach the third round of the Australian Open since Glenn Layendecker in 1991. The loss gave Mathieu a distinction, too, but of the dubious variety. He has now lost six matches in his career after winning the first two sets.

Rather than shy away from the behavior of his fans, Delic said he would do something about it. For one, he plans to post a message to his web site asking for decorum. For another, he will contact leaders in the local Bosnian community (he knows they personally) and ask them to voice their concerns.

When Delic lost in the last round of qualifying, he figured he would stay in Melbourne and play the unfamiliar role of tourist (he, like most players, spends all his time either on court, at his hotel, or in a restaurant). Television advertisements for the local aquarium looked enticing, but he's happy to put the fish on hold--thanks to a main draw withdrawal and his good luck--for a little more tennis, as long as the security guards prepare for his next match against No. 3 see Novak Djokovic (of Serbia, of course).

"I'm just hoping that it doesn't turn into World War III," Delic said.

elessar
01-21-2009, 05:55 PM
http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/breves2009/20090121_150449_les-reactions.html
« Je n'ai pas été gęné, je ne veux pas me trouver d'excuses. Mais je trouve l'attitude des spectateurs vraiment honteuse. Quand je sors au 5e set pour aller aux toilettes, je vois des bouteilles de vodka. S'ils ont envie de faire la fęte qu'ils aillent autre part que dans les tribunes de tennis. Ils ne suivaient pas du tout le match, ils ne sont pas lŕ pour regarder le tennis, ce n'est pas bon pour le sport. Je trouve vraiment dommage de voir des spectateurs comme ça sur un court. Ce n'est pas bien du tout pour le tennis. A 13 heures, ils sont ŕ la vodka, ce n'est pas une belle image. Je me perturbe tout seul. »

PHM talked about this, he said the fans didn't bother him (as in didn't cause him to lose) but he was appalled by the fact that they were clearly drinking vodka at 1 in the afternoon and he thinks they didn't give a crap about the match and it a gave a bad image to the sport.

Vida
01-21-2009, 05:57 PM
http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/breves2009/20090121_150449_les-reactions.html


PHM talked about this, he said the fans didn't bother him (as in didn't cause him to lose) but he was appalled by the fact that they were clearly drinking vodka at 1 in the afternoon and he thinks they didn't give a crap about the match and it a gave a bad image to the sport.

...exactly the reason why he lost the match.

elessar
01-21-2009, 05:59 PM
No, if you read his interview he clearly says he shoud have won in three and only has himself and his bad play to blame for this loss.

elessar
01-21-2009, 06:02 PM
Also TG, don't know if you're trolling or not but that first sentence is :o

El Legenda
01-21-2009, 06:12 PM
Croat hooligans at it again. :rolleyes: These barbaric countries with no tennis history are ruining the sport with their disgusting behavior.

.

:lol: pretty sure it was the Serbs who were doing it at both matches..Croats at the Cilic match didnt even respond to the idiots from Serbia. After Tipsy lost they went looking for trouble at Delic match...of course police went in before they got their ass kicked...kind of like when the U.N. stepped it when Croats and Bosnians were moving in on Banja-Luka :lol: Serbs always start it..wars..tennis match fights and get rescused by higher powers.

the graduate
01-21-2009, 06:16 PM
classless mugs these flag waving thugs have reduced the game of tennis to a circus,the aussies should deport these thugs back to their countries of origin and leave the true fun loving aussies to enjoy this event,year in year out its the same crassy shit.

Clara Bow
01-21-2009, 06:17 PM
These barbaric countries with no tennis history are ruining the sport with their disgusting behavior.


If only all countries' fans could show as much class and respect for the game as the J-Block.

One thing that I was struck by is how young some of the fans are. You mix a bunch of 16 year olds with vodka in 90+ degree weather, the tendency for asshole behavior increases ten-fold. It really does seem to be less about the tennis and more about being loud and starting fights.

oranges
01-21-2009, 06:28 PM
Croat hooligans at it again. :rolleyes: These barbaric countries with no tennis history are ruining the sport with their disgusting behavior.


:retard: Could you make a more stupid statement while attempting to condemn deplorable behavior? Pilić, Franulović, rings any bells? Ignorance is a quality you share with the hooligans?

On topic, I don't know how many times would both Croatian and Serbian players need to ask their "fans" to behave. There haven't been any incidents when any of the Serbian guys play in Umag and Zagreb, but obviously Croats and Serbs who visit their mother country once a year or not at all feel it's their obligation to be obnoxious and ignorant. I wish they'd stick to football if they must vent that anywhere to begin with :rolleyes:

Byrd
01-21-2009, 06:35 PM
classless mugs these flag waving thugs have reduced the game of tennis to a circus,the aussies should deport these thugs back to their countries of origin and leave the true fun loving aussies to enjoy this event,year in year out its the same crassy shit.

This is quite ironic and amusing considering Australia's history.

Henry Chinaski
01-21-2009, 06:40 PM
:retard: Could you make a more stupid statement while attempting to condemn deplorable behavior? Pilić, Franulović, rings any bells? Ignorance is a quality you share with the hooligans?

On topic, I don't know how many times would both Croatian and Serbian players need to ask their "fans" to behave. There haven't been any incidents when any of the Serbian guys play in Umag and Zagreb, but obviously Croats and Serbs who visit their mother country once a year or not at all feel it's their obligation to be obnoxious and ignorant. I wish they'd stick to football if they must vent that anywhere to begin with :rolleyes:

The proportion of dumb, hyper-nationalistic fuckwits among expat communities is always much higher than in the country they left behind. It's like one of the universal laws of fuckwitism.

This Delic seems like a classy guy. A notable exception to the rule.

Tankman
01-22-2009, 01:16 AM
This is quite ironic and amusing considering Australia's history.

Agreed :lol:

It's also probably a bit rich of us to say that sort of thing seeing as we have native hooligans who are just as bad :rolleyes:

RagingLamb
01-22-2009, 01:38 AM
These barbaric countries with no tennis history are ruining the sport with their disgusting behavior.

I'm glad you didn't use this incident to make broad generalizing statements.

rocketassist
01-22-2009, 01:44 AM
Someone had to mention 'football' didn't they? :retard: It's nations who went to war with each other expressing hatred, as harsh as it may be.

Football has fuck all to do with it, so you stupid yanks get some brain transplants.

oranges
01-22-2009, 01:54 AM
Someone had to mention 'football' didn't they? :retard: It's nations who went to war with each other expressing hatred, as harsh as it may be.

Football has fuck all to do with it, so you stupid yanks get some brain transplants.

No, actually it's, as Henry aptly put, fuckwits expressing their hatred. Like I said, there are no similar incidents on Croatian tournaments and a number of Serbian players play there. The ATP event in Serbia is yet to take place, but there are challengers and futures, with a number of Croatian players taking part and I'm sure the media would report if any incidents worth reporting took place. OTOH, incidents, hatred, violence and all other kinds of BS where quite common way before the war among football fans and have never been restricted to inter-ethnic conflicts. Conflicts between two Croatian or two Serbian fan groups were not uncommon before and they are not uncommon now. It's no different in Britain, so what on earth are you talking about.

the graduate
01-22-2009, 02:31 AM
This is quite ironic and amusing considering Australia's history.I understand where you are coming from,but thats past tense these flag waving morons are a big time annoyance and should be reminded that Aussies are now civilized and are past this barbaric behaviour

Tankman
01-22-2009, 02:41 AM
I understand where you are coming from,but thats past tense these flag waving morons are a big time annoyance and should be reminded that Aussies are now civilized and are past this barbaric behaviour

that's not completely true mate :p

NinaNina19
01-22-2009, 02:47 AM
Amer is so classy. I knew I liked him. He's handsome too.

Kolya
01-22-2009, 02:50 AM
There is still tension between various ethnic groups in Australia, has been for a while.

NinaNina19
01-22-2009, 02:59 AM
:lol: pretty sure it was the Serbs who were doing it at both matches..Croats at the Cilic match didnt even respond to the idiots from Serbia. After Tipsy lost they went looking for trouble at Delic match...of course police went in before they got their ass kicked...kind of like when the U.N. stepped it when Croats and Bosnians were moving in on Banja-Luka :lol: Serbs always start it..wars..tennis match fights and get rescused by higher powers.

It was actually both. The Croats were doing the nazi salute. The serbs were probably worse though I agree. The only "innocent" group here is the Bosnians I guess. Poor Amer, he really handled it with class though. Either way, this is just a case of young drunk guys looking for trouble, I wouldn't take it seriously, most of them probably have only been back to Serbia/Croatia a handful of times in their life.

Fee
01-22-2009, 04:59 AM
From Amer's website:


Still going...

Not too many days have passed since the last update, however many things have happened...

First and foremost, I survived a tough 5 set match vs Taylor Dent in the first round. Taylor is a tough opponent and his serve is never fun to try and return, however, I was able to slide by him in the fifth set.

During the match, fans that were supporting me were extremely energetic, even when I was down two sets to one. They still believed I would come back and win. Thankfully they were right.

After that match, there was some stuff said in the press about them being too loud and obnoxious. I quickly shut that down by simply saying that they have every right to cheer for someone as long as they were not interrupting the play. Chair umpire never got involved more than in any other match while trying to control the crowd.

Following match was another five setter, but this time coming back from two sets to love down. I have never done it before, however I came close last year vs. Juan Monaco in the second round of the Aussie Open, on the court 13; which happened to be the same exact court I played my match yesterday.
So, down two sets to love, just spraying balls all over the place, it didn't look too promising for me or any of my fans, however, point by point I was able to gain some of my tennis back and started controlling the points the way I wanted to.

I was able to prevail in the third set, however I got down an early break in the fourth set and was two games away from losing the match at 1-4. At that point, there was another group of fans that came over and started harassing our play and my fans. Match had to be stopped because tensions were rising and Police and Security had to get involved.
That helped me gather my thoughts and get back into the match. One by one, I won the tie break and then the real drama started unraveling...

Fifth set was almost a carbon copy of last years 8-6 loss to Monaco, however, this time momentum was in my hands and it was up to me. I had some chances early in the set, however i wasn't able to convert a break. As the match went on, I was gaining confidence in my serve and forehand, while I felt Paul wasn't as comfortable. In the end, I was right. His forehand error gave a win on the 5th match point.
Crowd went nuts, my coach (Craig) went nuts, friends.... everyone. It was a great feeling...

I look forward to more of those...

Next match vs. Novak Djokovic will be sometime on Friday, Australian time.

As we all know, Bosnians and Serbs have had some differences in the past, however this is not the place nor time to settle those differences. Novak and I are tennis players playing in one of the greatest settings in the World of Tennis. I am only hoping for a fair fight that all the fans will enjoy, with the key word being "enjoy." Thats what we are all here for to enjoy moments like these...

Cheers for now.

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cobalt60
01-22-2009, 11:59 AM
Amer showing all class as usual:yeah:

JolánGagó
01-22-2009, 12:12 PM
They should ban all Croats and Serbs from AO.

CooCooCachoo
01-22-2009, 12:54 PM
Nice words by Amer :yeah:

Getta
01-22-2009, 12:58 PM
From Amer's website:

"... As we all know, Bosnians and Serbs have had some differences in the past, however this is not the place nor time to settle those differences. Novak and I are tennis players playing in one of the greatest settings in the World of Tennis. I am only hoping for a fair fight that all the fans will enjoy, with the key word being "enjoy." Thats what we are all here for to enjoy moments like these..."
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Amer :yeah:

Or Levy
01-22-2009, 01:53 PM
Classy guy.

Experimentee
01-22-2009, 03:57 PM
Ironic that the Serbians who came to harass Bosnians actually ended up helping Amer to collect his thoughts and win the match :lol:

tennismaster882001
01-22-2009, 04:41 PM
It was actually both. The Croats were doing the nazi salute. The serbs were probably worse though I agree. The only "innocent" group here is the Bosnians I guess. Poor Amer, he really handled it with class though. Either way, this is just a case of young drunk guys looking for trouble, I wouldn't take it seriously, most of them probably have only been back to Serbia/Croatia a handful of times in their life.

I was more listening to sound from that match then watched it and it was disgusting to hear Serbs singing those songs about slaughtering. I don't know how anyone can say those words proudly like that, that's just not normal.
Then I saw Croats doing those saluts and that was just the same.
I was really sorry for players, they must have been so proud listening to all that.:o
And for all that to be happening in Australia with people who probably never experienced what was happening during war, that's just :retard:!

fast_clay
01-22-2009, 04:53 PM
The proportion of dumb, hyper-nationalistic fuckwits among expat communities is always much higher than in the country they left behind. It's like one of the universal laws of fuckwitism.


this is the truth...

most of them have absolutely no idea of what they have left behind... generations and oceans seperating them from cold reality... blurring the field of vision on what type of recent history their blood has written...

tangerine_dream
01-22-2009, 05:03 PM
So much for the "Happy Slam". It's become more like "Racist Fans Out of Control Slam".

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24940502-2722,00.html

Bully-boy fans out of control, says Phil Dent
Margie McDonald
January 21, 2009

ONE of Australia's most respected tennis players, Phil Dent, said the country was in danger of producing sporting bullies by letting outlandish behaviour thrive at one of its signature events, the Australian Open.

"You come to Australia and think you'll get a fair go," Dent told Melbourne radio yesterday after Monday's five-set loss by his son Taylor Dent to fellow American Amer Delic, who was born in Bosnia but now lives in Florida.

"The facts are yesterday that the kids who were there - 18, 19-year-old kids and supporting Delic which is fine - but they were allowed to heckle, to taunt, do lots of things," said Dent, the runner-up to Jimmy Connors at the 1974 Australian Open.

"Well I've played a lot of Davis Cup and Grand Slams all around the world and I've got to tell you, their behaviour wouldn't be acceptable anywhere in the world."

Dent did not identify the fans, who surrounded Court 10, one of the back courts.

He stressed that he was not speaking out because his son lost. He said he genuinely feared for the reputation of the Australian Open, and Australians in general, if behaviour like he witnessed was left unchecked.

The Australian Open is the only Grand Slam where racist elements, stemming from overseas conflicts, rise to the surface. Greeks, Chileans, Croatians and Serbians have been the chief offenders in recent years.

Past offences such as letting off flares, offensive language and assaults have led to increased closed-circuit television cameras in operation this year and more uniformed police patrolling.

Dent said the fans' behaviour was allowed to continue despite his son making repeated pleas to umpire Ali Katebi.

"Even though Taylor asked the umpire, because they were interrupting the serve ... they were chanting on the line calls, in the middle of points. Basically they were out of control," Dent said.

"I can tell you one thing, if Taylor had the same support with another group of people, there would have been a riot.

"It's a pretty tight court so when you get a bunch of people there leaning over the fence and taunting ... they came there to disrupt Taylor's game. They didn't come there to support the player (Delic) in any way.

"I've played at a lot of places where the crowd is against you and you're in a hostile environment, but there is a point where it becomes unacceptable."

Tournament referee Wayne McKewen issued a short statement when asked by The Australian if better crowd security would be in place for Delic's next match and if any fans could be identified on CCTV footage.

"The crowd's behaviour during the match between Taylor Dent and Amer Delic did not contravene any regulations," McKewen said. "While the crowd was noisy, it was not disrupting play."

"We do not comment on any security operational details."

Although no one is officially commenting, security arrangements will be on high alert for this morning's match between Croatian Mario Ancic and Serbian Janko Tipsarevic

tennismaster882001
01-22-2009, 05:10 PM
Although no one is officially commenting, security arrangements will be on high alert for this morning's match between Croatian Mario Ancic and Serbian Janko Tipsarevic

Ancic playing against Tipsarevic??? :confused:

scarecrows
01-22-2009, 05:16 PM
Ancic playing against Tipsarevic??? :confused:

they refer to cilic-tipsa match

alfonsojose
01-22-2009, 06:09 PM
Gotta love the fans :eek: ? What a stupid comment. Tennis has to be protected from hate and lack of tolerance.

vucina
01-22-2009, 06:38 PM
The officials should pay the Serbs, Croats, Greeks... They give AO a unique flavor and make it seems more interesting. Anglo spectators can tell their friends and family they saw a real "ethnic" war. Then they too will come next year to see it. All in all, it's good for business.

*snowflake*
01-22-2009, 07:07 PM
The worst thing is that those kids probably had never seen "their" country and yet act like bigger Serbs, Croats and what not than ppl who actually live in those countries.

I'd trhow them all out. If you don't obey the unwritten rules of how to behave on a tennis match, you have no business there. Half of those ppl don't care about tennis and only come cause someone from their "mother land" has came and they need to feel connected. Zero telerance rule should be implied cause the things that are being said there would be defined as sreading racial, religious and ethnic hate, which is illegal. Plus many of those kids are probably below the drinking age so tag that to it as well.

Disgraceful...

AlexNYR
01-22-2009, 08:08 PM
Tennis should be happy that the football crowds go there to chant, it adds legitimacy to the sporting event. The football atmosphere is not easy to come by. Besides, if you watch football you know that these "brawls" are very small compared to the way they are reported. One bar fight is described as "a riot".

JolánGagó
01-22-2009, 08:08 PM
The officials should pay the Serbs, Croats, Greeks... They give AO a unique flavor and make it seems more interesting. Anglo spectators can tell their friends and family they saw a real "ethnic" war. Then they too will come next year to see it. All in all, it's good for business.

:lol:

ORGASMATRON
01-22-2009, 08:10 PM
Now why would i love the fans for acting like idiots? Shame on you!

fast_clay
01-22-2009, 08:21 PM
unfortunately... when u cross breed aussie larrikanism with balkan tension, it looks ugly...

i would prefer to watch watch irish, scottish and english fans trade loud, stereotypical insults in the crowds... at least you can have a laugh at the occasional piece of wit and humour with chants like: 'who ate all the pies??' (otherwise known as 'The Ode to Daveed Nalbandian')

unfortunately the irish and english have no players to turn up and support...

AlexNYR
01-22-2009, 08:28 PM
unfortunately... when u cross breed aussie larrikanism with balkan tension, it looks ugly...

i would prefer to watch watch irish, scottish and english fans trade loud, stereotypical insults in the crowds... at least you can have a laugh at the occasional piece of wit and humour with chants like: 'who ate all the pies??' (otherwise known as 'The Ode to Daveed Nalbandian')

unfortunately the irish and english have no players to turn up and support...

All they were doing was chanting as well, but police moved in even though nobody was fighting during the match. This zero tolerance sounds like a good idea but it only inflames the situation. What if the only thing you were doing is chanting and then some pseudo security told you to stop? As long as they are only chanting they should be left alone. If they decide to have a brawl, they should agree to meet somewhere else to settle it. If people are so fanatical that they want to fight, nobody will stop them, they will find a way.

zeleni
01-22-2009, 09:01 PM
As we all know, Bosnians and Serbs have had some differences in the past, however this is not the place nor time to settle those differences. Novak and I are tennis players playing in one of the greatest settings in the World of Tennis. I am only hoping for a fair fight that all the fans will enjoy, with the key word being "enjoy." Thats what we are all here for to enjoy moments like these...

Cheers for now.

AD
Bosnians and Bosniaks are not synonyms.

Less than half of Bosnians are Bosniaks (Muslims). Other half are Serbs (Orthodox) and Croats (Catholics). I am surprised Amer is making that kind of mistake...
unfortunately... when u cross breed aussie larrikanism with balkan tension, it looks ugly...

i would prefer to watch watch irish, scottish and english fans trade loud, stereotypical insults in the crowds... at least you can have a laugh at the occasional piece of wit and humour with chants like: 'who ate all the pies??' (otherwise known as 'The Ode to Daveed Nalbandian')

unfortunately the irish and english have no players to turn up and support...

You would prefer to watch something like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heysel_Stadium_disaster)?

dusk
01-22-2009, 09:07 PM
The most disgusting thing in all this is the ESPN attitude, drooling over this type of accidents and pretending to be shocked and appalled.

meihaditalab
01-22-2009, 09:14 PM
Serbian and Croatians. Had to be them. But datta boys. We got to have a little more intensity in tennis fans like soccer fans do :)

q.j.
01-22-2009, 09:31 PM
No, actually it's, as Henry aptly put, fuckwits expressing their hatred. Like I said, there are no similar incidents on Croatian tournaments and a number of Serbian players play there. The ATP event in Serbia is yet to take place, but there are challengers and futures, with a number of Croatian players taking part and I'm sure the media would report if any incidents worth reporting took place. OTOH, incidents, hatred, violence and all other kinds of BS where quite common way before the war among football fans and have never been restricted to inter-ethnic conflicts. Conflicts between two Croatian or two Serbian fan groups were not uncommon before and they are not uncommon now. It's no different in Britain, so what on earth are you talking about.



The proportion of dumb, hyper-nationalistic fuckwits among expat communities is always much higher than in the country they left behind. It's like one of the universal laws of fuckwitism.

This Delic seems like a classy guy. A notable exception to the rule.





this is the truth...

most of them have absolutely no idea of what they have left behind... generations and oceans seperating them from cold reality... blurring the field of vision on what type of recent history their blood has written...


The worst thing is that those kids probably had never seen "their" country and yet act like bigger Serbs, Croats and what not than ppl who actually live in those countries.

I'd trhow them all out. If you don't obey the unwritten rules of how to behave on a tennis match, you have no business there. Half of those ppl don't care about tennis and only come cause someone from their "mother land" has came and they need to feel connected. Zero telerance rule should be implied cause the things that are being said there would be defined as sreading racial, religious and ethnic hate, which is illegal. Plus many of those kids are probably below the drinking age so tag that to it as well.

Disgraceful...

i feel slightly less disgusted because of this types of incidents, when i hear people from both side of the fences and neutral observers pointing out just how pitiful the people that get involved in this shit really are...and yet when it seems that nothing can top it, a spark of brilliance appears, and lights a path to a whole new meaning of the word- special:


The officials should pay the Serbs, Croats, Greeks... They give AO a unique flavor and make it seems more interesting. Anglo spectators can tell their friends and family they saw a real "ethnic" war. Then they too will come next year to see it. All in all, it's good for business.

~Maya~
01-22-2009, 10:02 PM
I am disgusted by this kind of behavior. There is nothing good about it. For the sake of my mental health, I have to keep the volume on my TV down. I don't want to hear this kind of chanting, it causes a pain in my heart.

Ciarán.
01-22-2009, 10:18 PM
:rolleyes:

scarecrows
01-22-2009, 11:12 PM
gotta love the fans

Fee
01-23-2009, 02:24 AM
Bosnians and Bosniaks are not synonyms.

Less than half of Bosnians are Bosniaks (Muslims). Other half are Serbs (Orthodox) and Croats (Catholics). I am surprised Amer is making that kind of mistake...


He's speaking to his audience. His audience sees one group waving a Bosnian flag and another group waving a Serbian flag, therefore "Bosnians and Serbs". He's not going to give a history lesson on his website, that wasn't the point.

the graduate
01-23-2009, 03:27 AM
the fans from these countries are slowly lowering the status of tennis,unfortunately class will never be bought you have it or you dont.

NinaNina19
01-23-2009, 03:48 AM
Bosnians and Bosniaks are not synonyms.

Less than half of Bosnians are Bosniaks (Muslims). Other half are Serbs (Orthodox) and Croats (Catholics). I am surprised Amer is making that kind of mistake...

Most of the Serbians from Bosnia I know hate being referred to as Bosnians. My father is a Bosnian serb so I should know:p. Most people think Bosnian muslim when you say Bosnian anyway.

El Legenda
01-23-2009, 04:57 AM
Serbs start throwing chairs after the match in the garden..hitting a girl in a head according to the ESPN reporter standing 5feet away..nice going serbs showing your true colors...not suprised.

Jagermeister
01-23-2009, 04:59 AM
Disgusting behavior. Sad that they have to ruin a match that was played in such good spirits. Animals.

MIMIC
01-23-2009, 05:03 AM
They both showed some tremendous sportsmanship after the match. They both made some pretty risky calls with the Hawkeye, both laughing afterwards since the calls were so close--Novak's especially. He stopped during a point and made a hail Mary challenge. Both were smiling after the match and were in good spirits.

Right outside of the match, someone threw a chair and hit a girl that was just interviewed by ESPN and then a chair-throwing brawl breaks out.

BAN THE ALCOHOL. ESPN was interviewing a guy who was CLEARLY drunk, and holding his cup of beer to boot. Disgraceful.

El Legenda
01-23-2009, 05:05 AM
:rolleyes:

castle007
01-23-2009, 05:05 AM
:eek:

yes please!! Ban the alcohol. It turns stupid people into even dumber creatures

MagicMilan
01-23-2009, 05:05 AM
Pathetic, such groups shouldn't be allowed to enter the courts :(

ChinoRios4Ever
01-23-2009, 05:10 AM
I just watch it, simply pathetic.

AlexNYR
01-23-2009, 05:15 AM
Love the ESPN hypocrisy: they condemn the chair throwing but then show the footage 1 million times....its good for ratings and controversy so let's not be too quick to condemn these guys when the networks themselves secretly want these kind of things

Snoo Foo
01-23-2009, 05:18 AM
:mad: ban the chairs! :mad:

kalisita
01-23-2009, 05:21 AM
:mad: ban the chairs! :mad:

Ban the fans! The chairs are blameless.

JimmyV
01-23-2009, 05:33 AM
You can pay for school but you can't buy class.

Magenta
01-23-2009, 07:03 AM
DIGUSTING.
Can we throw out all of these flag waving scum? Please!!!

Kolya
01-23-2009, 07:14 AM
Idiots...

Ferrero Forever
01-23-2009, 11:40 AM
These guys are going to ruin the open for everyone else. Personally when I go there now I feel 100% safe, but soon enough if they keep going people are going to feel unsafe and stop coming. I do think the alcohol needs to be banned, especially since the last thing you need is grog on a 40 degree day. If the players can get along, why can't the fans. I can understand the historical tensions, its quite a messy topic, but if you don't like eachother, simply stay out of eachothers way. Idiots!

Stensland
01-23-2009, 11:43 AM
http://www.welt.de/sport/article3076341/Schlaegerei-auf-Tennisanlage-eine-Frau-verletzt.html

adding to the reports: 30 people sent off right away, one of them had to pay a fine, one woman injured.

Experimentee
01-23-2009, 02:10 PM
The footage of the chair throwing brawl is hilarious. One guy gets knocked down by a chair, instead of helping him his mates fight over the chair, and then run back to throw the chair back at the other side, leaving him on the ground :lol:

When the security guy came to break it up you just knew they would start throwing chairs at him.

Experimentee
01-23-2009, 02:15 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/national/racial-tensions-flare-in-serve-of-open-violence-20090123-7ore.html

Racial tensions flare in serve of Open violence

RACIAL unrest erupted again at the Australian Open yesterday, with a chair-throwing fight between Bosnian and Serbian fans leaving one woman injured, 30 people thrown out of Rod Laver Arena and several people charged.

The violence — which is becoming an ugly annual event — occurred on an embarrassing day at the tennis when, in a separate incident, a streaker invaded the court during the Williams sisters' doubles match and danced about unimpeded by security before walking off, down the players' race. He was then caught and charged.

The chair-throwing fight flared outside the centre court match between Serbian Novak Djokovic and Bosnian-born American Amer Delic.

Police Inspector Chris Duthie said a female spectator lying on a blanket in the garden court area, outside of the arena, was injured when struck in the head by a plastic chair thrown in the scuffle. The woman was not cut or badly injured.

Police moved in and ejected the two groups, but they immediately clashed again outside the stadium.

Delic said he had spoken to Djokovic in the hallway on Thursday, alerting him to the fact he had posted a message to fans on his website urging Bosnians and Serbs not to settle any lingering differences at Melbourne Park.

"Novak and I are tennis players, playing in one of the greatest settings in the world of tennis," Delic said on his website. "I am only hoping for a fair fight that all the fans will enjoy, with the key word being 'enjoy'. That's what we are all here for, to enjoy moments like these."

Yesterday he expressed regret at the violence: "On both sides I'm sure there were guys that wanted to cause problems," he said. "It's like that everywhere in the world.

"Unfortunately, it happened here today. I'm sure some innocent people might have gotten injured. It's sad. I don't know what else I can say."

But Djokovic said that inside Rod Laver Arena inappropriate interruptions were few and, despite repeated questioning, he was reluctant to condemn the violence outside.

"It's really uncontrollable from our side," the defending champion said. "We have our authorities to deal with that, if they're exaggerating. You have to understand them in some point, because people don't get many chances to see their professional athletes from their countries.

"This is probably the only opportunity they can see them, and they support them. This is something that makes Australian Open different, I think, from the other grand slams — is that nationalities, groups, are coming to support their players."

Inspector Duthie said two people would be charged on summons with riotous behaviour and discharging a missile, and another had received an on-the-spot fine.

Aloimeh
01-23-2009, 02:26 PM
The reporters are such hypocrites. Djokovic did not approve of violence outside. He merely distanced himself from it. His responsibility is on court and not to rile up a restive crowd. It's the tournament's security/external police that are responsible for stopping and hopefully preventing brawls. He simply does not feel responsible for the behavior of hooligans that he has no control over and that he had no role in provoking - and he's right.

Which isn't to say that I particularly support him this year, either.

Experimentee
01-23-2009, 02:41 PM
Although it really had nothing to do with Novak personally, I think he should have taken an opportunity to condemn the violence, as Delic did in his comments on his website and to the media. The comments Nova made about this being the only opportunity to see the players is really irrelevant, you can still support your favourite players without having to start brawls with other fans.

bokehlicious
01-23-2009, 02:46 PM
...
"It's really uncontrollable from our side," the defending champion said. "We have our authorities to deal with that, if they're exaggerating. You have to understand them in some point, because people don't get many chances to see their professional athletes from their countries.

"This is probably the only opportunity they can see them, and they support them. This is something that makes Australian Open different, I think, from the other grand slams — is that nationalities, groups, are coming to support their players."

So it's ok to throw chairs at other fans? That's what you call support? That's a damn sport Novak not a f#cking war out there... :sad: :rolleyes:

JolánGagó
01-23-2009, 02:48 PM
"You have to understand them in some point, because people don't get many chances to see their professional athletes from their countries.

"This is probably the only opportunity they can see them, and they support them. This is something that makes Australian Open different, I think, from the other grand slams — is that nationalities, groups, are coming to support their players."


Utterly retarded statement.

Till what point exactly do we have to understand? throwing chairs? since when that sort of behaviour constitutes "support" for players? what a useless moron :retard:

Byrd
01-23-2009, 02:52 PM
Here's the video, some girl gets knocked out bad.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7846586.stm

~Maya~
01-23-2009, 02:53 PM
He said that before he was told about the incident outside. Later in the interview he said that he didn't know about it.

JolánGagó
01-23-2009, 02:55 PM
He said that before he was told about the incident outside. Later in the interview he said that he didn't know about it.

So what? Are nazi salutes also "support" for players? gimme a break.

q.j.
01-23-2009, 02:56 PM
gio, hopefully that is the truth,
because official interview on the AO site really makes him look bad, in light of everything that has occurred.

madmanfool
01-23-2009, 02:56 PM
http://sporza.be/cm/sporza.be/mediatheek/1.456568

video about it

zeleni
01-23-2009, 02:57 PM
Posters who want to know what Djokovic really said can visit AO offical site, instead making conclusions based on malicious article.

Q. We just spoke to Delic about the trouble outside. What are your thoughts on what happened?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Well, look, I tried not to keep my attention on that. This is something that we cannot effect on. We can, as players, try to ask them to be a little bit less ‑‑ a little bit quiet during the point.

But, you know, it's really uncontrollable from our side. We give our authorities to deal with that if they're exaggerating. You have to understand them in some point, because people don't get many chances to see their professional athletes from their countries.

This is probably the only opportunity they can see them, and they support them. This is something that makes Australian Open different, I think, from the other Grand Slams, is that nationalities. Groups are coming to support their players.

Q. When it becomes violent to the point it did, what would you say to the fans that were involved?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Look, as I said, I can't do much. I'm on the court. I have to keep my focus on the tennis, because I need to win the match. As I said, authorities are there, chair umpires, referees, the people, security. If they think that they're overreacting or somebody is complaining about them, then it's different and they can do something about it.

Q. Delic said he asked his supporters to keep it quiet and nice on his website. Would you look at doing something like that as well?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Look, I'm trying to play my best tennis on the court. This is why I'm here. If I start to lose my energy on these things, I'm going to lose my focus as well.

I agree and it's very nice for him for doing that, you know, so he can have a fair encounter with his opponent, which is obviously not annoyed by the fact that the people who are supporting them, they're not exaggerating.

Look, I'm not thinking about that. As I said, it not on me.

Q. The atmosphere on court seemed to be much better towards each other. The fans were enthusiastic, but not out of control. I assume you had to walk a fine line between wanting people to cheer for and you feed you a little bit of their energy.

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: You're exactly right. I don't think things got out of control today. I think actually we had a nice match. It was really enjoyable to play and enjoyable to watch. The crowd enjoyed it. The fans were all right.

There were some points when they, you know, start cheering between the serves or during the point, but very rare. I was very happy with the way the Serbs and Bosnians were cheering, you know, reacting on everything.

So I mean, we have big respect for each other, Amer and myself. We know each other for a long time. He's a great guy. Sportsmanship is something which is a part of us.

Look, we are friends off the court. Why we shouldn't keep that on the court? Of course, we are rivals, so we have to put that aside when we're playing against each other.

Q. There was allegations of a chair being thrown, and there was a scuffle outside. About twenty Serbs and Croats. Does that disappoint that you, fans of yours are involved in that?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Well, look, I'm going to repeat it again: We have no control over that. I am happy when I see that I have my own group of fans that are supporting me in a fair way, of course, not provoking my opponent and everything is going in a sportsmanship way.

It's fine with me. I didn't know about this encounter whatever they had outside of the courts. But, you know, I have no comment about that.

Q. Would you ask them to tone it down?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Look, I've said enough. Please, let's change the subject.

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/interviews/2009-01-23/200901231232695237671.html

~Maya~
01-23-2009, 02:57 PM
Nazi salutes were not coming from Djokovic supporters. I would think that his concentration is somewhere else, not on what is going on on the stands

zeleni
01-23-2009, 03:01 PM
It isn't Djokovic's job to deal with hooligans - he can't do anything about them. That is police job, and he is a tennis player.

JolánGagó
01-23-2009, 03:03 PM
Nazi salutes were not coming from Djokovic supporters. I would think that his concentration is somewhere else, not on what is going on on the stands

The whole show yesterday was pathetic from both groups of raucous fans. I agree he must focus on his own business, which is playing but I do think he goes too far in his condescence.

Byrd
01-23-2009, 03:04 PM
It isn't Djokovic's job to deal with hooligans - he can't do anything about them. That is police job, and he is a tennis player.

Fair enough, but as their player and a role model to them, he really hasn't done anything to defuse the situation, as they would probably listen to him more than the security, officials, etc.

q.j.
01-23-2009, 03:05 PM
condemning them verbally takes about two, three sentances
beating around the bush, no matter how you feel and don't approve of that, always makes him look worse, media-wise, and can back fire on him in the proceedings of this tournament.

~Maya~
01-23-2009, 03:06 PM
Fair enough, but as their player and a role model to them, he really hasn't done anything to defuse the situation, as they would probably listen to him more than the security, officials, etc.

Players are not the role models to hooligans. That is what Djokovic understands and you don't. Those people were not fans of tennis

~Maya~
01-23-2009, 03:08 PM
condemning them verbally takes about two, three sentances
beating around the bush, no matter how you feel and don't approve of that, always makes him look worse, media-wise, and can back fire on him in the proceedings of this tournament.

He could have handled it better, I agree on that.

Byrd
01-23-2009, 03:10 PM
Players are not the role models to hooligans. That is what Djokovic understands and you don't. Those people were not fans of tennis

That's not the point, the point is, Djokovic hasn't even bothered to comment on the situation, good or bad.

scarecrows
01-23-2009, 03:24 PM
Djokovic is not responsible for their behaviour but he's the idol of some of those guys and if he says a few words condemning that behaviour maybe 2-3 of them would think twice before throwing a chair

Sebby
01-23-2009, 03:27 PM
These dumbasses thought it was soccer

vucina
01-23-2009, 03:47 PM
Maybe Obama could say a few words to the hooligans. Yes he could. They'll probably listen to him.

~Maya~
01-23-2009, 03:47 PM
Djokovic is a good friend with Ancic and Delic, so clearly he is not the idol to the nationalist pigs observed over there. And like he said, when people misbehave they should be dealt with.
I would slam them with some heavy fines. That would make them think twice before they do it again

Bilbo
01-23-2009, 07:35 PM
to be honest i'm not surprised djokovic fans are involved. absolutely expected. many of his fans must come from football. they never followed tennis before and don't know how to behave on- and offcourt.

Lee
01-23-2009, 09:03 PM
I don't know what everyone expected Novak to say doing the post match interview. He didn't know about the incident outside the court and was questioned by the media. With his history of opening his big mouth and receiving flaks from every direction, no doubt he sticked to the line prepared by his agent.

He may make a statement after thoroughly understand what happened yesterday but honestly, I don't really see what good it will bring other than good PR. Delic made his statement but still could not prevent the Bosnian group throwing chairs too.

AlexNYR
01-24-2009, 12:15 AM
ESPN was so disturbed by the footage, of course it was the 1st thing they opened today's coverage with. They are getting more TV Time than the matches themselves. That's why for all the condemnation, the networks love this, ill say it again. Although its very unpopular to say, me and my friends agree that this makes us want to go to the AO more.

Henry Chinaski
01-24-2009, 12:17 AM
I hope that girl is ok because i've watched her getting lamped by that chair about 20 times and it's definitely the funniest thing I've seen this year.

AlexNYR
01-24-2009, 12:21 AM
She got up after a few minutes so it appears she was OK. I thought the funniest part was the 2 Bosnians fighting over the chair the girl got cracked with to throw back instead of tending to her.

kandygram
01-24-2009, 01:08 AM
Q. There was allegations of a chair being thrown, and there was a scuffle outside. About twenty Serbs and Croats. Does that disappoint that you, fans of yours are involved in that?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Well, look, I'm going to repeat it again: We have no control over that. I am happy when I see that I have my own group of fans that are supporting me in a fair way, of course, not provoking my opponent and everything is going in a sportsmanship way.

It's fine with me. I didn't know about this encounter whatever they had outside of the courts. But, you know, I have no comment about that.

Q. Would you ask them to tone it down?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Look, I've said enough. Please, let's change the subject.

Sound like he is finally listening to Benito Perez-Barbadillo and keeping quiet on such things.

gasguet#1
01-24-2009, 05:00 AM
What idiots who make up 1% of the crowd & spoil the day for other spectators who want to go & enjoy the tennis!

I know people from other countries that now live in Australia have had some tough times prior to coming to Australia, When will they learn to forget all the political & religious ideas from there former country & stop all this tension with other groups, If I was the police I would of dragged the whole lot of them away & made them all realize the damage they have done to Melbourne, The Aust Open, etc.... & have them banned for life, especially when Melbourne is in the spotlight with the world's media in Melbourne for the Open

We had the trouble a few years ago with some radical Bagdatis fans, Im not saying one group of fans from a certain part are any better or gives them the right to put Melbourne into the news for all the wrong reasons,

Things like this doesn't belong at the Tennis..... Spose the groups will be so pleased if Melbourne lost the Grand Slam due to crowd problems with these idiots

Rafa = Fed Killa
01-24-2009, 05:42 AM
So it's ok to throw chairs at other fans? That's what you call support? That's a damn sport Novak not a f#cking war out there... :sad: :rolleyes:

Tennis is War - Jimmy Connors

Why cant some of these groups beat up some nerdy Fedtards...because Fedtards will hide behind there mommies skirt.

Rafa = Fed Killa
01-24-2009, 05:47 AM
If they didnt hit some girl I would call them Spartan fans.

Nothing wrong with showing your fandom. If some random Fedtard comes in your face during a tourny blabbering genius at work or some random crap. Then for the good of humanity you have to show him the `light`(if you choose to do that by kicking his ass so be it)

Baghdatis#1
01-24-2009, 05:53 AM
I just saw this on the NBC 4 news:eek: