Roddick def. Tsonga 6-7 7-6 6-3 6-3: equalled record for the 5th time! [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

Roddick def. Tsonga 6-7 7-6 6-3 6-3: equalled record for the 5th time!

Voo de Mar
01-15-2007, 12:28 AM
Tsonga won 20:18 first set tie-break against Roddick and this is 6th tie-break in singles with 38 points! :lol:

Fragmentary process: 1:0 Roddick, 2:1 Tsonga, 3:2 Roddick, 5:3 Roddick...
6:5 Tsonga, 7:6 Roddick, 8:7 Tsonga, 9:8 Roddick, 10:9 Tsonga, 11:10 Tsonga (serve), 12:11 Tsonga, 13:12 Roddick, 14:13 Tsonga, 15:14 Roddick, 16:15 Tsonga, 17:16 Tsonga (serve), 18:17 Tsonga and finally at 19:18 serving Tsonga won his tenth set point (Roddick had four sp's).

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2006 -- J.Acasuso d. B.Phau 7-5, 7-6[20:18] R1 Toronto
2004 -- R.Federer d. M.Safin 6-3, 7-6[20:18] SF TMC - Houston
1997 -- G.Ivanisevic d. G.Rusedski 4-6, 6-4, 7-6[20:18] SF Queen's
1993 -- G.Ivanisevic d. D.Nestor 6-4, 7-6(5), 7-6[20:18] R1 US Open
1973 -- B.Borg d. P.Lall 6-3, 6-4, 9-8[20:18] R1 Wimbledon

Neely
01-15-2007, 12:44 AM
not bad this tiebreak :lol:
38 points, hey almost as good as most sets!

20-18 must be the magic number; after having it for the sixth time already, it would be funny to see a distribution to see how many tiebreaks ended with 19-17 or 18-16 to check if 20-18 is an over-coincidental occurance compared to these other numbers.

Voo de Mar
01-15-2007, 12:49 AM
not bad this tiebreak :lol:
38 points, hey almost as good as most sets!

20-18 must be the magic number; after having it for the sixth time already, it would be funny to see a distribution to see how many tiebreaks ended with 19-17 or 18-16 to check if 20-18 is an over-coincidental occurance compared to these other numbers.

19-17 two times in the last 16 years
18-16 four times in the last 16 years

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=89672

Byrd
01-15-2007, 12:54 AM
Tiebreak time again.......lol

Rogiman
01-15-2007, 01:00 AM
Has there ever been a big server with a tb record as bad as Roddick's?

Neely
01-15-2007, 01:17 AM
Has there ever been a big server with a tb record as bad as Roddick's?
If Karlovic, Ancic, Krajicek or Ljubicic count... then yes... and Roddick is still WAY in the positives, which the other mentioned guys could not say

Voo de Mar
01-15-2007, 02:01 AM
Roddick def. Tsonga 6-7(18) 7-6(2) 6-3 6-3 what means, A-Rod is the first player who lost record's tie-break and won the match. Congrats Andy, good match :yeah:

Jimnik
01-15-2007, 02:06 AM
Nice one Andy. :yeah:

BRING ON ROGER FEDERER :rolleyes:

cobalt60
01-15-2007, 02:07 AM
Yeah for Andy now just keep it down and play tennis please.

tangerine_dream
01-15-2007, 02:10 AM
If Karlovic, Ancic, Krajicek or Ljubicic count... then yes... and Roddick is still WAY in the positives, which the other mentioned guys could not say
:lol: Andy's TB record was untouchable in 2003-04. Things got pretty bad in 2005, but levelled off in 2006. Still, as Neely says, compared to other big servers, his TB record isn't too bad.

I think TB's are all about confidence anyway, and not really about serving.

gusman890
01-15-2007, 02:10 AM
gooo rodddiccckkkkk!!!! :)

UncleZeke
01-15-2007, 02:10 AM
tough set for anybody to have to lose.

Loremaster
01-15-2007, 02:13 AM
If you will take career Tb record Rodddick is one of the best he had great Tb record in 2002, 2003 and 2004. Only last year was bad but still he was 19-19 in Tbs last year.

It was nice win for Roddick, I think it will be good for him to have stronger opponent and very hard match in 1st round, beacuse he used to cruise through draw when opponent were too easy for him and then loosing macth to someone better in bad fashion.
Roddick won 63% at the net, not a bad stat,
also both players had the same winners/Ue ratio
Tsonga 62-46
Andy 41-26

Nice to see Andy in 2nd round, match wasn't so long 2h 44m but still he would rest in next round Giquel or Jones would be easy and they are still on court locked in 5th set(match over 3h match for sure)

2moretogo
01-15-2007, 02:16 AM
I can't wait to see the post match interview by Roddick... Tsonga is talented and I hope that he can do big things.

Jimnik
01-15-2007, 02:16 AM
I'd also like to say that, if this guy Tsonga stays healthy, there's no reason he can't break the top 100 this year. I mean 30 outright winners in the first set alone :eek:. He was on fire.

El Legenda
01-15-2007, 02:17 AM
If Karlovic, Ancic, Krajicek or Ljubicic count... then yes... and Roddick is still WAY in the positives, which the other mentioned guys could not say

Ljubicic is 3-0 this year :)
(4-0 if you count the 7-6 over Haas in Kooyong)

Regenbogen
01-15-2007, 02:20 AM
Roddick was lucky that Tsonga's level fell off near the end.

I wish someone would BREAK the tiebreak record, they always just equal it :lol:

Jimnik
01-15-2007, 02:28 AM
Roddick was lucky that Tsonga's level fell off near the end.

I wish someone would BREAK the tiebreak record, they always just equal it :lol:
Or you could say he was unlucky that Tsonga's level was ever that high. I mean the guy is ranked 212, for heaven's sake. What right does he have to play that well?

El Legenda
01-15-2007, 02:34 AM
Or you could say he was unlucky that Tsonga's level was ever that high. I mean the guy is ranked 212, for heaven's sake. What right does he have to play that well?

the right...that he was suppose to be good, but injuries has stopped him :wavey:

Magical Trevor
01-15-2007, 02:35 AM
I'm not sure why Andy tries to get in the opponents faces like he does.

I mean, when you're ranked 6 and playing a guy ranked 212, chances are they're probably not thinking of winning the match. Really, Andy just fired Tsonga up in that first set.

Anyway, Andy was fairly impressive from 5-2 down in the second onwards.

Veronique
01-15-2007, 02:37 AM
Good effort by Jo Willie. I hope he stays healthy this year b/c he's got tons of talent. Conditioning remains a serious issue for him right now.

Jimnik
01-15-2007, 02:40 AM
the right...that he was suppose to be good, but injuries has stopped him :wavey:
Only 2 weeks ago, he lost to someone ranked 240.

Byrd
01-15-2007, 02:40 AM
The only thing Tsonga lacks is fitness, he has pretty much everything else in his game, big forehand, big serve, nice volleying, though he's mentally suspect at times.

Loremaster
01-15-2007, 03:11 AM
I think things will change this year considering Andy's Tbs record, the first one in match was just 50-50 both served great and played some amazing points so I wouldn't count this Tb as Andy fault in Andy way, he served 4 aces in this and played some winners.

and you don't be so positive about Tsonga, just another Big Serve with huge forehand nothing new, his backhand is average at best.
The same was after Muller beat Roddick at UsOpen and where is he now??

But I liked Tsonga game today, he has tools to be in Top100 but noone can say how far can he go.

Voo de Mar
01-15-2007, 03:15 AM
I think things will change this year considering Andy's Tbs record, the first one in match was just 50-50 both served great and played some amazing points so I wouldn't count this Tb as Andy fault in Andy way, he served 4 aces in this and played some winners.

and you don't be so positive about Tsonga, just another Big Serve with huge forehand nothing new, his backhand is average at best.
The same was after Muller beat Roddick at UsOpen and where is he now??

But I liked Tsonga game today, he has tools to be in Top100 but noone can say how far can he go.

I agree with you :yeah:

sykotique
01-15-2007, 03:22 AM
I think things will change this year considering Andy's Tbs record, the first one in match was just 50-50 both served great and played some amazing points so I wouldn't count this Tb as Andy fault in Andy way, he served 4 aces in this and played some winners.

and you don't be so positive about Tsonga, just another Big Serve with huge forehand nothing new, his backhand is average at best.
The same was after Muller beat Roddick at UsOpen and where is he now??

But I liked Tsonga game today, he has tools to be in Top100 but noone can say how far can he go.

Amm, no offense, but a player generally described as having just a "big serve" and a "huge forehand" is none other than Andy himself.


Tsonga has a very good backhand (don't know why you think it's average, but from what I saw, it was rock solid in the first set and early into the second set until he started making errors on both sides). Also, he plays loosely and unhurried, has a good wingspan and uses it to great effect on the return of serve and has very good court sense.


What he needs to work on is fitness obviously and anticipation, because there were a lot of spectacular shots he made in the match that he could have made look easy if he had anticipated them. Otherwise, this kid has got the goods.

RickDaStick
01-15-2007, 03:27 AM
I think things will change this year considering Andy's Tbs record, the first one in match was just 50-50 both served great and played some amazing points so I wouldn't count this Tb as Andy fault in Andy way, he served 4 aces in this and played some winners.

and you don't be so positive about Tsonga, just another Big Serve with huge forehand nothing new, his backhand is average at best.
The same was after Muller beat Roddick at UsOpen and where is he now??

But I liked Tsonga game today, he has tools to be in Top100 but noone can say how far can he go.

Surely you are talking about Roddick here.

Loremaster
01-15-2007, 03:45 AM
It was the same story when Muller won with Andy after UsOpen and what??

Andy does it week after week, and he is more solid now. In one match you can be on fire and play like crazy (Muller, Tsonga) but you must it regulary as someone stated Tsonga lost 2 weeks ago to guy ranked 240, and Roddick kick his ass badly at FO in 2005.

Monfils also had some good results and he was hyped to be GS contender but now he is loosing every match , even on hardcourt against such hardcourt specialists like Alberto MArtin

RickDaStick
01-15-2007, 03:49 AM
It was the same story when Muller won with Andy after UsOpen and what??

Andy does it week after week, and he is more solid now. In one match you can be on fire and play like crazy (Muller, Tsonga) but you must it regulary as someone stated Tsonga lost 2 weeks ago to guy ranked 240, and Roddick kick his ass badly at FO in 2005.

Monfils also had some good results and he was hyped to be GS contender but now he is loosing every match , even on hardcourt against such hardcourt specialists like Alberto MArtin


Ok its just not very smart of you to call Tsonga just another Big Serve with huge forehand nothing new, his backhand is average at best when your favorite player is just that.

Veronique
01-15-2007, 04:12 AM
Jo Willie was a very good junior. In 2003, he was ranked #2 behind Baghdatis. In fact, he defeated Baghdatis to win the US Open Junior. He also made both the Aussie and RG semis that year. He's just been very unlucky the past couple of years with bad injuries, but as you could tell today, he's very talented.

Björki
01-15-2007, 05:45 AM
Andy :)

jazar
01-15-2007, 06:51 AM
was th ultra long breaker the highlight?

vincayou
01-15-2007, 07:25 AM
Tsonga has been hit like noone by injuries these last 2 years. Back and knee, he wasn't able to play more than 5 tournaments a year in 2005 and 2006. Before that, I was following Baghy and his ranking progress and they were going at the same speed towards top100.

Ernham
01-15-2007, 07:48 AM
Oh, please. Tsonga has some powerful strokes, but absolutely nothing else in his game. He could barely stand up out there without tripping over his cloddish footwork. He might -- one day-- in a galaxy far, far away" go deep into wimbly or something.

vincayou
01-15-2007, 08:03 AM
Oh, please. Tsonga has some powerful strokes, but absolutely nothing else in his game. He could barely stand up out there without tripping over his cloddish footwork. He might -- one day-- in a galaxy far, far away" go deep into wimbly or something.

A huge serve and forehand plus decent backhand and volley can take you far, not only in Wimbledon.

oz_boz
01-15-2007, 09:37 AM
A huge serve and forehand plus decent backhand and volley can take you far, not only in Wimbledon.

Considering that is more than Roddick has, it should be enough for a USO win and two Wimbly finals at least. ;)

Ernham
01-15-2007, 09:37 AM
A huge serve and forehand plus decent backhand and volley can take you far, not only in Wimbledon.

Not when you run flat footed and move like a tranquilized giraffe. He might make a blip in wimbly one day, but he will do nothing else; he's just too uncordinated.(Edit: not to mention apparently highly-injury prone).

Ernham
01-15-2007, 09:40 AM
Considering that is more than Roddick has, it should be enough for a USO win and two Wimbly finals at least. ;)

Roddick is the best server in the ATP. Tsonga wouldn't make the top 10.

vincayou
01-15-2007, 11:11 AM
Not when you run flat footed and move like a tranquilized giraffe. He might make a blip in wimbly one day, but he will do nothing else; he's just too uncordinated.(Edit: not to mention apparently highly-injury prone).

I think that he can hit top50 at some point. But injuries are indeed his main problem. His back and knees are fragile.

Voo de Mar
01-15-2007, 05:19 PM
Tsonga is the man to watch. He has strengths to be all-round player, especially after this match - great first set to build self-confidence for the future. I'm afraid he is too weighty. "The best of three" formula should be better for him :)

Deboogle!.
01-15-2007, 05:29 PM
The only thing Tsonga lacks is fitness, he has pretty much everything else in his game, big forehand, big serve, nice volleying, though he's mentally suspect at times.Yeah, I would say consistency is a very big problem for him.
was th ultra long breaker the highlight?Yes. The match wasn't particularly interesting otherwise.

adee-gee
01-15-2007, 05:32 PM
The game Tsonga played when serving for the 2nd set was one of the worst games I've ever seen. He'd played so well up till then.

Huge let off for Andy, he'll need to improve.

thiaela
01-15-2007, 05:38 PM
Congrats Andy
Hard work
Well done

Deboogle!.
01-15-2007, 05:52 PM
Huge let off for Andy, he'll need to improve.Encouraging for me was that in his interview with ESPN after the match, he knew exactly what he did wrong and wasn't pleased with his play. So that plus Jimmy kicking his butt via phone should hopefully be enough to see a big change in the next round.... hopefully....

Voo de Mar
01-20-2008, 05:03 AM
This match year ago on the Rod Laver Arena showed that the almost unknown Tsonga is prepared to do great things in Melbourne :yeah: :devil:

~*BGT*~
01-20-2008, 05:20 AM
Jo :woohoo: