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Worst Overall Groundstrokes?

Action Jackson
03-18-2004, 05:48 AM
Yes, these are the people who deserved these nominations of worst overall groundstrokes.

Deboogle!.
03-18-2004, 05:52 AM
I picked Arthurs, and well I guess I'm biased since he's the only one I've actually gotten to see up close and see just how horrible he is. Just everything went out or in the net!

Action Jackson
03-18-2004, 05:54 AM
Could you imagine a classic Karlovic/Arthurs match at Wimbledon the chances are that the score would be 7-6, 6-7, 7-6, 6-7, 20-18 and the player who gets the matchpoint will hit a mishit return off the frame that hits the corner of the baseline and sideline, or a backspinning dropshot of the throat that bounces once then over their side of the net for victory.

Domino
03-18-2004, 05:57 AM
Ljubicic doesn't have bad groundstrokes. From what I saw in Doha he was pretty good off the gorund. Anyways, I also pick Arthurs.

Action Jackson
03-18-2004, 05:59 AM
Ljubicic chokes on them too much when he has break chances and they are not that good, but they are from the worst on that list.

Aphex
03-18-2004, 06:47 AM
Sanguinetti? His groundies are weird, but are they bad? And if they are bad, then how does he play? He certainly isn't the king of S&V.

I'll jump the bandwagon and vote for Arthurs, he's a walking argument for abandoning the second serve.

Action Jackson
03-18-2004, 06:52 AM
Sanguinetti's are pretty weak, if Pozzi was still playing he would be on this list for sure, too many people voted Arthurs but there are at least 3 standout contenders in this category.

Btw, the WCT was the organisation before it changed it's name to the ATP.

Aphex
03-18-2004, 07:15 AM
Sanguinetti's are pretty weak, if Pozzi was still playing he would be on this list for sure, too many people voted Arthurs but there are at least 3 standout contenders in this category.

Btw, the WCT was the organisation before it changed it's name to the ATP. Thx for that answer. Do you know the name of the other pro-org at that time? I mean WCT had a tourny in Göteborg at the same time as Stockholm Open, what tour was SO part of?

Action Jackson
03-18-2004, 07:20 AM
SO was the main tour and has been around since 1972.

So who do you think would win the match from hell Karlovic or Arthurs?

Aphex
03-18-2004, 07:25 AM
They'll both retire from serve-shoulder exhaustion after a three hour 5th set 25-25 or something.

Action Jackson
03-18-2004, 07:27 AM
They'll both retire from serve-shoulder exhaustion after a three hour 5th set 25-25 or something.

Great answer and the TV audience would be shattered at missing out on the groundstroke fest.

Aphex
03-18-2004, 07:35 AM
Btw: Do you consider the serve an offensive or a defensive stroke? Guys like Arthurs' only gameplan always seems to be defending their own service to pressure the opponent into bad serving. They never have any plan for returns, approach- and passing shots et al.

Action Jackson
03-18-2004, 07:39 AM
For them it would be as it's their only weapon.

Aphex
03-18-2004, 07:55 AM
Yeah. Arthurs is truly a one-trick tennis pony.

Action Jackson
03-18-2004, 08:15 AM
Yeah. Arthurs is truly a one-trick tennis pony.

He isn't totally alone. You know the best thing about him is, he beat Roddick at the 02 French Open. I laughed for three days when I saw that result.

Deboogle!.
03-18-2004, 01:31 PM
Could you imagine a classic Karlovic/Arthurs match at Wimbledon the chances are that the score would be 7-6, 6-7, 7-6, 6-7, 20-18 and the player who gets the matchpoint will hit a mishit return off the frame that hits the corner of the baseline and sideline, or a backspinning dropshot of the throat that bounces once then over their side of the net for victory.

:haha: I think that's the funniest thing you've said here GWH

Deboogle!.
03-18-2004, 01:32 PM
He isn't totally alone. You know the best thing about him is, he beat Roddick at the 02 French Open. I laughed for three days when I saw that result.

The difference is that almost 2 years later, Arthurs is still the same, only a serve, but Andy has a lot more shots than in 2002. I'm quite confident that would be a different result were that match to happen now.

azza
03-18-2004, 01:44 PM
So who do you think would win the match from hell Karlovic or Arthurs?

2004 Adelaide, Hard, R32
Australia Hard R32 Arthurs 6 7 7 6 7 5
2003 Shanghai, Hard, Q
China Hard Q Arthurs 6 4 3 6 7 6

Aurora
03-18-2004, 02:00 PM
I'd love to hear all the tennisminds in here express their opinion on Dick Norman!

Havok
03-18-2004, 04:11 PM
i won't vote since i haven't had the *pleasure* of seeing all these *great groundstrokes* on tv yet

sigmagirl91
03-19-2004, 01:13 AM
Yes, and where can we get tix to view these "fantastic" matches-especially the Arthurs-Karlovic slugfest?

Action Jackson
03-19-2004, 01:31 AM
The difference is that almost 2 years later, Arthurs is still the same, only a serve, but Andy has a lot more shots than in 2002. I'm quite confident that would be a different result were that match to happen now.

That is one of the poorest excuses that I have heard. Before at RG he managed to beat Chang his best win on clay in Europe, and he pushed Hewitt until injury stopped him, and that was before 2002.

Honestly there is no way he can be defended after losing that match, id he loses in 1R to a good claycourt player then that's understandable, but come on losing to Arthurs on clay is a very poor result and deserved to be ridiculed.

Originally posted by swirlingblacklilly
I'd love to hear all the tennisminds in here express their opinion on Dick Norman!

The guy was 2.03m tall with a huge serve and touch volleys that's what I can say about his game. Though I admire him he retired, went and did something else, then he came back to the game without any help from tournament directors and has managed to be just outside the top 100.

azza
03-19-2004, 01:38 AM
Arthurs has good strokes but he often volleys and hes volleys suck ass

FryslanBoppe
04-29-2004, 03:47 AM
Karlovic is a shocker really when it comes to the groundstrokes, at least Arthurs forehand is just pathetic, but Ivo is the man who has such problems breaking serve with those horrible groundstrokes.

*SKYE*
04-29-2004, 01:58 PM
Definately Arthurs, his groundstrokes arent at a good enuf standard for me to like him

Lee
04-29-2004, 05:29 PM
Could you imagine a classic Karlovic/Arthurs match at Wimbledon the chances are that the score would be 7-6, 6-7, 7-6, 6-7, 20-18 and the player who gets the matchpoint will hit a mishit return off the frame that hits the corner of the baseline and sideline, or a backspinning dropshot of the throat that bounces once then over their side of the net for victory.

:haha: :haha: :haha:

TennisLurker
04-29-2004, 06:19 PM
I dont think Ljubicic is that Bad.

To George and some people who watched tennis in the 80's

Was Kevin Curren like Arthurs, rusedski?

heya
04-30-2004, 05:13 AM
Stepanek pounded dear Novak!
6-3 7-5 :haha: :bounce:

Action Jackson
04-30-2004, 05:18 AM
I dont think Ljubicic is that Bad.

To George and some people who watched tennis in the 80's

Was Kevin Curren like Arthurs, rusedski?

Kevin Curren was pretty bad in the groundstroke department, actually Yannick Noah was very ordinary at the baseline, yet he moved and served very well on clay, the last man to serve/volley and win the French Open.

Good to see heya not making sense as usual.

star
04-30-2004, 05:27 AM
They are all GREAT in comparison to me. :)

simer
04-30-2004, 03:39 PM
Ljubicic is up there? What the hell? Huge forehand and great onehanded backhand.

And Popp isn't that good but his backhand is pretty big.

TennisLurker
04-30-2004, 04:46 PM
ljubicic has a very good one handd backhand, but his forehand is bad.
it collapses when he needs it more.

LiZpHaIr
04-30-2004, 07:40 PM
Verkerk!!!!!!

simer
04-30-2004, 08:03 PM
Verkerk has great groundstrokes. His depth and weight of shots especially on the backahnd are amazing.

YoursTruly
05-01-2004, 04:29 AM
Gimelstob's groundies and serve are very hard to watch! And they're not natural.

UseTheSearchTool
08-10-2004, 06:13 AM
Gimelstob is shocking, but I voted for Karlovic.

jole
08-11-2004, 12:09 AM
Gimelstob is appalingly bad. Everything about his game is so herky-jerky it's grotesque. It's difficult to take him seriously these days though, despite a challenger win earlier this year.

Rusedski would have an immensely greater chance of breaking people's serves if he hit out more on his forehand, and had confidence to roll over his backhand.

Marc Rosset is Tall
08-11-2004, 12:25 AM
Karlovic is winning, but Gimelstob gets my vote for the worst groundstrokes.

LiZpHaIr
08-11-2004, 12:47 AM
Verkerk!!!!!

Action Jackson
02-15-2005, 08:12 AM
Bump

I just remember seeing Chris Guccione recently play, and this is the guy is a Wayne Arthurs clone except taller and younger. A lefty with a huge serve and nothing else.

Brinyi
02-15-2005, 10:12 AM
Dick Norman, ew ew ew.

Experimentee
02-15-2005, 01:56 PM
I wouldnt put Ljubicic or Popp on this list. I'd say its betwen Arthurs, Karlovic and Rusedski, and I'd go for Karlovic. At least the others can break serve once in a while.

RPH
02-15-2005, 02:03 PM
Why is Rusedski on the list :rolleyes: His backhand is nothing special but he has a decent forehand. He'll prove the haters when he wins WIMBLEDON 2005 :rocker2: :rocker: :crazy: Viva Greg :worship: :devil:

Stepanek and Santoro shoudl be on the list. Stepanek's forehand is painful to watch and most women hit the ball harder than Santoro :o

tennischick
02-15-2005, 02:26 PM
I picked Arthurs, and well I guess I'm biased since he's the only one I've actually gotten to see up close and see just how horrible he is. Just everything went out or in the net!
normally i would agree but i am literally watching his SAP doubles match now (i taped it last night) and he's not looking as bad as before. but maybe it's bec it's doubles.

federer express
02-15-2005, 03:49 PM
think ljubicic can feel hard done by to be on this list. his groundstrokes are pretty good i always thought.

federer express
02-15-2005, 03:50 PM
not sure how ppl are suggesting verkerk either

thelma
02-15-2005, 03:55 PM
think ljubicic can feel hard done by to be on this list. his groundstrokes are pretty good i always thought.

He has a good backhand, but not a great forehand. However his groundstrokes are better than those of the most of the other players in the poll.

Hendu
02-15-2005, 04:01 PM
Ljubicic shouldn't be in that list, his groundstrokes are not bad... he has a good backhand.

Domino
02-15-2005, 10:29 PM
Why is Rusedski on the list :rolleyes: His backhand is nothing special but he has a decent forehand. He'll prove the haters when he wins WIMBLEDON 2005 :rocker2: :rocker: :crazy: Viva Greg :worship: :devil:

Stepanek and Santoro shoudl be on the list. Stepanek's forehand is painful to watch and most women hit the ball harder than Santoro :o

Santoro has great groundstrokes, players would kill for his variety of shot and consistant shotmaking.

Action Jackson
02-16-2005, 03:59 AM
Santoro has great groundstrokes, players would kill for his variety of shot and consistant shotmaking.

Too true as if Santoro deserves to be on that list.

Actually Ljubicic shouldn't be on there, but Guccione should instead, but I am happy that Ivan only has 1 vote.

Karlovic, Gimelstob and Arthurs are the leading and it's how it should be.

Prizeidiot
02-16-2005, 05:30 AM
Karlovic, but Arthurs would give him an alright run for his money. The hilarity of seeing Wayne lose LITERALLY every grounstroke rally he got into against Sam Stosur in the Aus Open mixed doubles was incredible. I was dying.

kiro
02-16-2005, 06:48 AM
I voted for Arthurs. I remember watching him practicing and playing several times. When he's hitting with Hanley, he kept saying "sorry" because he always hit the ball wide...

I agree that Karlovic and Gimelstob should be leading too.

ae wowww
02-16-2005, 06:51 AM
Arthurs by far.

TennisLurker
02-16-2005, 06:53 AM
I should see more Ivo to see if he sucks more than Arthurs

Action Jackson
02-17-2005, 06:39 AM
I should see more Ivo to see if he sucks more than Arthurs

You should watch it with Leena, she'd get all excited and you can just shake your head at the ineptitude.

Poljud
02-17-2005, 11:22 AM
Karlovic by far. His groundstrokes would struggle at Challenger level.
Ljubicic definitely doesnt deserve to be on that list.

Experimentee
02-17-2005, 02:51 PM
Once I saw Karlovic and Rochus practice with each other. They were trying to play points, and Rochus was serving. He could hardly get a serve over the net, and when he did get one over, Karlovic would promptly hit the return out. So they could never get a point going :lol:

Action Jackson
07-11-2005, 05:33 AM
With the passing of Wimbledon. Ivo the great showed why he is in the top 100 and it wasn't through groundstroking excellence.

Popp and Arthurs, well if Arthurs could have got some returns into play, instead of the bottom of the net, then he should have won.