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Murray thrashes Ljubicic 6-4 6-2

mark_s
01-10-2007, 07:36 AM
Murray got his sweet revenge (http://www.murraysworld.com) over Lube with a 6-4 6-2 win at Kooyang.

Now who does he take on?

2moretogo
01-10-2007, 07:38 AM
Roddick

Apemant
01-10-2007, 07:51 AM
payback time :devil:

El Legenda
01-10-2007, 08:00 AM
no place like exibition to get revenge for a finals lose
:yawn:

ps, Ljubicic played left handed with a blindfold

Blue Heart24
01-10-2007, 08:18 AM
ljubo doesnt care about this shit...

Blue Heart24
01-10-2007, 08:18 AM
it's only a exibition

Morgan Z
01-10-2007, 08:19 AM
ljubo doesnt care about this shit...

If he didn't care, he wouldn't play....

El Legenda
01-10-2007, 08:20 AM
Federer playing 3 Tbs vs Mr.Hingis says it all :)

El Legenda
01-10-2007, 08:20 AM
If he didn't care, he wouldn't play....

he cares enough to show up and take the money :) and live matches are always better than hitting with your coach before a GS :wavey:

Andre♥
01-10-2007, 08:23 AM
If he didn't care, he wouldn't play....

Money, money, money...

Morgan Z
01-10-2007, 08:23 AM
Federer playing 3 Tbs vs Mr.Hingis says it all :)

Doesn't mean a thing. Takao Suzuki nearly beat him last year.

Everyone has off days.

Now don't say that Fed didn't care about ATP Tokyo. :rolleyes:

Ljubo played badly, Muzzah was good and won. End of story.

El Legenda
01-10-2007, 08:24 AM
Ljubo played badly, Muzzah was good and won. End of story.

:lol: did you watch the match?

El Legenda
01-10-2007, 08:24 AM
Money, money, money...


and money :p

Deathless Mortal
01-10-2007, 08:27 AM
So, basically, you're saying that the final on ATP tournament and an exibition match are on the same level? I mean, if not it wouldn't be revenge... Ljubo kicked his ass in Doha and now he let the kid be happy. :lol:

Morgan Z
01-10-2007, 08:27 AM
he cares enough to show up and take the money :) and live matches are always better than hitting with your coach before a GS :wavey:

Agreed, but no one wants to lose. Ljubo may be some heartless person who will not care about his fans' troubles in getting tickets and play rubbish tennis, but in the end, he will prefer winning more than losing.

Deathless Mortal
01-10-2007, 08:28 AM
Last year he lost even to Coria at that exibition, he beat him earlier on TMC, and later he played quarters at AO...

El Legenda
01-10-2007, 08:29 AM
Agreed, but no one wants to lose. Ljubo may be some heartless person who will not care about his fans' troubles in getting tickets and play rubbish tennis, but in the end, he will prefer winning more than losing.

i think those fans know its a exibition before a GS and that players wont give 100%.

vincayou
01-10-2007, 08:31 AM
It's only an exhibition. Ljubicic doesn't care about exhibition and slams.

El Legenda
01-10-2007, 08:33 AM
It's only an exhibition. Ljubicic doesn't care about exhibition .

:worship:

he said anything less than a final at AO would be a disappointment :)

Deathless Mortal
01-10-2007, 08:39 AM
Just one more thing, it's not Lujbicic, it's Ljubicic.

oz_boz
01-10-2007, 08:48 AM
It's only an exhibition. Ljubicic doesn't care about exhibition and slams.

:lol:

He kicked some serious ass before the RG semi though. ;)

Guybrush
01-10-2007, 08:49 AM
Just one more thing, it's not Lujbicic, it's Ljubicic.

No, it's Ljubičić. :cool:

Morgan Z
01-10-2007, 08:53 AM
i think those fans know its a exibition before a GS and that players wont give 100%.

"Not giving 100%" and "wanting to lose" are really different. Top players can win even without playing their best game.

I must say that Ljubicic must be considered as a disgusting person in case he accepts money and then loses on purpose. And most here seem to indicate that he lost on purpose.

For that matter, I don't think that Ljubo is a bad person. I like his style, too.

El Legenda
01-10-2007, 08:55 AM
"Not giving 100%" and "wanting to lose" are really different. Top players can win even without playing their best game.

I must say that Ljubicic must be considered as a disgusting person in case he accepts money and then loses on purpose. And most here seem to indicate that he lost on purpose.

For that matter, I don't think that Ljubo is a bad person. I like his style, too.

he didnt want to lose, but he didnt want to get hurt by trying hard to win :)

Deathless Mortal
01-10-2007, 08:56 AM
No, it's Ljubičić. :cool:

Yeah, I know, i was going to write it but then he wouldn't see this "Lju" part :D

Guybrush
01-10-2007, 09:01 AM
"Not giving 100%" and "wanting to lose" are really different. Top players can win even without playing their best game.

I must say that Ljubicic must be considered as a disgusting person in case he accepts money and then loses on purpose. And most here seem to indicate that he lost on purpose.

For that matter, I don't think that Ljubo is a bad person. I like his style, too.

He hasn't lost on purpose. He just played it like it was a training match. Why force it on his age a week before a GS? He is not a youngster like Murray. ;)

For example I'm playing an online football game (Dugout-Online (http://www.dugout-online.com/)) and this season I've played 11 official matches and the score is 10 wins and 1 draw (goal difference 24:3). On the other way I've also played 11 friendly matches and my score is 9 defeats and only 2 draws (goal difference 0:22!). So I understand Ljubo very well! Why care about friendly matches? :lol:

ljubicic_
01-10-2007, 09:03 AM
Murray didn't won. Ljubicic won the Doha, Murray defeated Ljubicic in a exibition. it's the same like Italy and France in football. Itally won the world cup but France won in the qualification. But that doesn't feel like a victory!

scarecrows
01-10-2007, 09:03 AM
:lol:

Murraytards are amazing

Deathless Mortal
01-10-2007, 09:06 AM
I mean it's still a victory, congrats to Murray, but it's not a revenge for Sunday's final los.. :)

Guybrush
01-10-2007, 09:07 AM
I mean it's still a victory, congrats to Murray, but it's not a revenge for Sunday's final los.. :)

I agree. CONGRATULATIONS to Murray, he WON that match. But say that is a revange is too much. ;)

Deathless Mortal
01-10-2007, 09:08 AM
It was on Saturday... I'm idiot!

mark_s
01-10-2007, 09:08 AM
I totally agree that an exhibition match can't be compared to an ATP match.

No way does Murray beating Ljubicic mean he has got his own back yet but it certainly counts for something. Ljubicic did not delibretly let the match slip, he tried to win but naturally both players don't want to try too hard otherwise they may get injured.

Murray may of come to that match more fired up and prepared than Ljubicic but I believe both players would of seriously tried to beat each other - these guys are top tennis players, they don't like losing!

Deathless Mortal
01-10-2007, 09:09 AM
Guybrush, I sent you a PM.

Deathless Mortal
01-10-2007, 09:11 AM
I totally agree that an exhibition match can't be compared to an ATP match.

No way does Murray beating Ljubicic mean he has got his own back yet but it certainly counts for something. Ljubicic did not delibretly let the match slip, he tried to win but naturally both players don't want to try too hard otherwise they may get injured.

Murray may of come to that match more fired up and prepared than Ljubicic but I believe both players would of seriously tried to beat each other - these guys are top tennis players, they don't like losing!

No, Murray was more "fired up", he lost to Ljubicic at Doha, so he wanted to beat him now, even though he knows that's not a revange... But he obviously deserved to win. :)

mark_s
01-10-2007, 09:53 AM
No, Murray was more "fired up"

Read my post again... I just said that!

Deathless Mortal
01-10-2007, 09:54 AM
Yeah, sorry :)

Fergie
01-10-2007, 09:55 AM
Nice try Ivan :lol:

MissPovaFan
01-10-2007, 10:08 AM
Yaywell done to Murray :D Just a shame it wasn't last week :sad:

pistolmarat
01-10-2007, 10:28 AM
good for Murray - I want him go deep in Aus!

its.like.that
01-10-2007, 10:44 AM
LOL @ the Poms making a big deal out of this win.

It would be like England having beaten Australia in last night's 20/20 game, claiming that it made up for the 5-0 Australian clean sweep in the test series.

ps. What is the definition of exhibition?

:lol:

Andre'sNo1Fan
01-10-2007, 11:02 AM
:worship:

he said anything less than a final at AO would be a disappointment :)

He's gonna be very disappointed, then ;)

Deathless Mortal
01-10-2007, 11:03 AM
We'll see about that.

scoobs
01-10-2007, 11:32 AM
Yep - good win for Murray - but this doesn't count for anything on official H2H or anything so, while nice, it matters no more than Federer losing to Haas here last year.

The H2H is still officially 2-1 in Ljubicic's favour and Murray will need to do this again at an official event. I've no doubt he can.

Guybrush
01-10-2007, 11:51 AM
He's gonna be very disappointed, then ;)

Maybe he won't. ;)

Hiromiku
01-10-2007, 12:22 PM
Remember folks, that this defeat won't appear in the Head to head on the ATP website.

So nothing much, really...Although well done Murray. Surely he can't be in such bad form:cool:

croat123
01-10-2007, 12:24 PM
:haha:

ljubo always sucks here...although he did beat monfils last year (after losing to coria :o )

Fumus
01-10-2007, 01:55 PM
This isn't revenge for Murray it's a win at an exhibition. Ivan didn't want to lose; a loss is never good for the confidence especially going into a GS. A beatdown this bad can't possibly be good for the confidence. It's clear to me through that Murray really wanted the win and Ivan didn't want it as much. Look for LLubo to win his next match, probably his next two just for confidence.

Shrinking Violet
01-10-2007, 02:01 PM
Good win for Andy, but it doesn't count for anything - it's just a daft exhibition so although I'm sure it's a nice confidence boost for him going into the AO, that's about all it is. The important thing is that neither player got injured and both of them get matches under their belts prior to the AO. I'm sure neither of them would have been hurling themselves off tall buildings if they had been beaten.

Saying that though - I remember a couple of threads being started when the match was announced by Jerry Seinfeld who seemed to be making a bigger deal out of it than an exhibition merited. I wonder if it would have been written off as much if the result had been reversed? ;)

GlennMirnyi
01-10-2007, 02:05 PM
Exhos are worth nothing.

Green_Eyes
01-10-2007, 02:07 PM
This is always going to happen, but in a BIG situation or match it never will. The pressure is just too much for the young Scot, and I doubt he will produce a result like this in a slam, let alone a complete thrashing.

Shrinking Violet
01-10-2007, 02:12 PM
This is always going to happen, but in a BIG situation or match it never will. The pressure is just too much for the young Scot, and I doubt he will produce a result like this in a slam, let alone a complete thrashing.

I don't know - he killed Roddick in a Slam so it's not outwith the realms of possibility that he can beat these guys.

Black Adam
01-10-2007, 02:26 PM
Let's not celebrate too much, for Ljubicic never takes this Exhibition too seriously, he is just there to relax and use the facilities to prepare for AO. I mean last year he got thrashed 4 and 1 by Roddick and we all know that if Ljubo was taking that Match seriously + Roddick on the other side of the net the score have been far more close.

Mateya
01-10-2007, 02:46 PM
100% agree with TGS. :)

This is just kind of easy training for Ljubičić. It is better to save energy for AO anyway :rolleyes:

TMJordan
01-10-2007, 02:55 PM
This means absolutly nothing, Murray had his chance on sunday and got owned like a little kid, Ljubo just let him have this because he felt bad for him. :rolleyes:

RickDaStick
01-10-2007, 03:14 PM
Im suprised ljubo got to 4 games in the 1st. I was expecting 6-2 6-2 Murray just like vs Coria last year in his first match. Also i have one question for anyone who watches baseball, the cardinals beat the mets in the NLCS championship series last year, now if the mets beat them in spring training this year, would you consider that sweet revenge?

alansk
01-10-2007, 03:16 PM
:rolleyes: Relax people, let the British kids be happy that Murray won and stop responding like they just shat on your face.

GlennMirnyi
01-10-2007, 03:20 PM
I don't know - he killed Roddick in a Slam so it's not outwith the realms of possibility that he can beat these guys.

Big deal, so did Gilles Muller.

TMJordan
01-10-2007, 03:33 PM
Im suprised ljubo got to 4 games in the 1st. I was expecting 6-2 6-2 Murray just like vs Coria last year in his first match. Also i have one question for anyone who watches baseball, the cardinals beat the mets in the NLCS championship series last year, now if the mets beat them in spring training this year, would you consider that sweet revenge?

:haha: of course ;)

MissPovaFan
01-10-2007, 03:37 PM
I wouldn't celebrate this victory one bit - the tournament doesn't even rank as high as a Mickey Mouse after all. Ljubicic is currently the better player there's no doubt - I guess Doha showed that, but maybe that can change during the course of the year.

Raquel
01-10-2007, 05:15 PM
Well done Andy :)

scoobs
01-10-2007, 05:23 PM
it's not an important win. but it's a win and that's always nice.

El Legenda
01-10-2007, 06:24 PM
this might be a career ending lose for Ivan :mad:

Sofonda Cox
01-10-2007, 06:26 PM
Ljubo :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

i dont think ljubo gave a rats shit about the match, if he did Murray would have lost;)

Horatio Caine
01-10-2007, 06:31 PM
Bend over Ljubo.... :devil:

Horatio Caine
01-10-2007, 06:32 PM
this might be a career ending lose for Ivan :mad:

Yep...the trapdoor has opened :)

jazar
01-10-2007, 07:31 PM
you gotta factor in ljubo's devasting ping pong injury

Dashers
01-10-2007, 09:55 PM
it's not an important win. but it's a win and that's always nice.

Scoobsuk, any tourney that Murray wins, for some people it will only be because their favourite player(s) is injured, off-form, weren't really bothered, were tired, had played too many games, were injured etc... I could go on on. Might as well get used to it. You've got several years of it to come :lol:

adee-gee
01-10-2007, 10:01 PM
Murray will get proper revenge soon enough :)

Sofonda Cox
01-10-2007, 10:02 PM
you gotta factor in ljubo's devasting ping pong injury

i agree this was a serious problem

El Legenda
01-10-2007, 10:03 PM
Murray will get proper revenge soon enough :)

soon meaning never? :wavey:

Andre'sNo1Fan
01-10-2007, 10:14 PM
never means when ljubicic will win a major title :)

scoobs
01-10-2007, 10:19 PM
Murray will beat Ljubicic enough times on the regular tour - I'm not worried. Murray is a long way off his prime, Ljubicic is coming out of his prime and Murray's able to beat him now already.

Guybrush
01-10-2007, 10:23 PM
Murray will beat Ljubicic enough times on the regular tour - I'm not worried.

Neither I am. Ljubo is superior. :wavey:

scoobs
01-10-2007, 10:30 PM
Neither I am. Ljubo is superior. :wavey:
We'll see, won't we.

Washa Koroleva
01-10-2007, 10:38 PM
Both :silly:, still :yeah:

El Legenda
01-10-2007, 10:40 PM
Murray will beat Ljubicic enough times on the regular tour - I'm not worried. Murray is a long way off his prime, Ljubicic is coming out of his prime and Murray's able to beat him now already.

starting season 5-0 with title..is not coming out of prime..he has another 2-4 years left.

scoobs
01-10-2007, 10:44 PM
One minor tournament win is meaningless, let's look at the wider picture of how his season progresses.

In any case I'm not getting into a protracted argument with you - you assert Ljubicic is superior. That's an opinion and it's unprovable except by the players on the court, so we'll have to wait and see - make all the grand claims you want.

oz_boz
01-11-2007, 09:44 AM
The result means nothing, it's an exho.

H2H Ljubicic-Murray 2-1, with Murray winning the most important meeting in Madrid TMS. (Expect lots of excuses for this in the next few posts, each one meaning as much as the match result in Kooyong.)

As for the future we'll see.

Horatio Caine
01-11-2007, 09:56 AM
never means when ljubicic will win a major title :)

:haha: :haha: :haha:

:wavey:

Guybrush
01-11-2007, 11:01 AM
In any case I'm not getting into a protracted argument with you - you assert Ljubicic is superior. That's an opinion and it's unprovable except by the players on the court

The same applies to your comment:

Murray will beat Ljubicic enough times on the regular tour

You have the magic globe? :confused:

scoobs
01-11-2007, 11:09 AM
That's a prediction. Yours was an assertion of fact. Ljubicic IS superior.