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Sunday Finals! Kiefer vs Spadea!

tangerine_dream
03-07-2004, 05:26 PM
It's the German vs the American today and as an American I will be rooting for ..... the German. :lol: Go Kiefer! :banana:

ESPN will actually be broadcasting this final live today at 2:00pm, EST.

Eurosport will also be covering the final live. You can get their audio coverage at their site www.eurosport.com.

Their head-to-head stats:

Spadea vs Kiefer (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/headtohead/head2head.asp?player1=Kiefer%2C+Nicolas&playernum1=K316&player2=Spadea%2C+Vincent)

I hope everyone's health is OK going into this final and no one gets injured in the process. Good luck guys and may the best man win! :aparty:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040307/capt.may10403070334.scottsdale_may104.jpg
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040302/capt.sge.pei12.020304134611.photo00.default-278x372.jpg

tennis_spider
03-07-2004, 05:50 PM
I think Spadea will win this.

Leo
03-07-2004, 05:50 PM
Rahr for Kiefer! We all want to see a comeback from the German star once named "The next Becker"!

Neely
03-07-2004, 06:00 PM
only one hour to go :D :banana:

CooCooCachoo
03-07-2004, 06:21 PM
In my opinion this is a very poor final. I don't want either to win, but I am still grateful for Vince defeating Andy, so as a reward he should win ;)

Neely
03-07-2004, 06:52 PM
Here is a translation of what a german evening newspaper printed today:


Kiefer does not give up: 2nd final in two weeks

Nicolas Kiefer already gave up counting the blisters at his feet. "It uses nothing", says the currently best german tennis professional with pain-distorted face. He had to through it, even if each step is brutally painful.

He wants back to the top with all might and a few bloody blisters couldn't prevent him as he impressively proved against semifinal rival from Romania, Victor Hanescu.
After a hard match that lasted for 2:32 hours, Kiefer was finally able to convert his second match point for 4:6, 7:5, 6:4 and was thereby in his second ATP final within two weeks.
Final opponent Vincent Spadea (4th seed) from the USA defeated his top-seeded compatriot Andy Roddick in the second semifinal with 6:7 (5:7), 6:4, 6:3.

Kiefer would have liked to go off the court on his hands. "I could hardly stand because my soles burned like hell. My socks were bloody, too", he said. After the first set, in which Kiefer had an early 4:1 lead, he had to take an injury time-out in order to get his feet taped.

"At this moment I completely felt blue. I did not only believe that I won the 1st set, but then also these injury problems. In addition to that I felt tired and exhausted somehow, because hardly got any sleep the night before. One instant I resigned, then I said to myself however: Pull yourself together again now", described Kiefer its feelings in the critical phase of the match. In order not to endanger the final, he withdrew from the doubles competition (playing with Wesley Moodie from South Africa).

"Nicolas obvious showed something that hardly still one had believed", said a glad couch Thomas Hogstedt. "his game was not convincing all the time this week but like he decided the matches with iron will was impressive. On the court, he fought like a German shepherd dog and was biting like a lion", doted the Swedish coach on Kiefer's match and stated that he maybe able to reach the same level like some years ago.

For the first time Kiefer succeeded in making it to two consecutive finals in two tournaments. He won six tournaments so far, the last title came October 2000 in Hong Kong. 14 days ago in Memphis, Kiefer was defeated by Sweden's fast-rising and hardhitting youngster Joachim Johansson.

Kiefer: "No matter, if I lose or win this final. More importantly, I confirmed that the final appearance in Memphis was not only a 'mayfly'. I know that there are a lot of people who didn't believe in Nicolas Kiefer anymore, but I am trying to keep my tail up."

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"mayfly" is maybe not the right word in English, but the german word at this place described a happening that only lasts for one day or for a very short day. I hope you all will understand ;)

MisterQ
03-07-2004, 06:53 PM
A strange final, I agree. We will see a happy winner, though, that's for sure. Spadea has NEVER won an ATP title. Kiefer has 6 titles, but the last one was back in 2000.

Neely
03-07-2004, 07:20 PM
I guess everybody went to watch the match on tv :lol:
I'm here and watching on TV ;)

Neely
03-07-2004, 07:22 PM
too easy these last errors of Kiefer... 2-2

TheBoiledEgg
03-07-2004, 07:24 PM
go Kiwi, do some peeling

Neely
03-07-2004, 07:25 PM
Kiefer good at the net this game now... good serve and volley...

3-2* Kiefer

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 07:30 PM
Go Vince :)

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 07:31 PM
Where are you getting the scores from ??

:)

Neely
03-07-2004, 07:35 PM
live broadcast on Eurosport or ESPN

Neely
03-07-2004, 07:35 PM
4-3* Kiefer (he had to save break point)

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 07:36 PM
Vince :( You should've broken :(

MisterQ
03-07-2004, 07:38 PM
there have been some nice points in this match.

kiefer's volleys are in good form today.

Dirk
03-07-2004, 07:39 PM
These guys are really fun to watch. I think its a great story no matter who wins.

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 07:41 PM
Go Vince ! GO ! Get your 1st title :)

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 07:43 PM
Hold now Vince....

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 07:45 PM
:D

Dirk
03-07-2004, 07:50 PM
Vincent is smart and steady. Great play. It would be a huge win for him if he can pull it off.

J. Corwin
03-07-2004, 07:53 PM
What horrible commentating. Tim Ryan said "Vince has 2 set points now" (or something like that), when it was only break points. And then when Vince broke Kiefer to lead 6-5, he said "and he now has won the 1st set". Wtf??


Tim...time to take Tennis 101. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 07:54 PM
Vince :D

Neely
03-07-2004, 07:54 PM
1st set to Spadea 7-5

better man so far, especially on own serve

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 07:54 PM
Serve it out NOW :yeah:

TheBoiledEgg
03-07-2004, 07:56 PM
Kiwi :smash:

come on plonker :smash:

5-7

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 07:57 PM
Vince

:worship: :worship: :worship:

MisterQ
03-07-2004, 08:14 PM
LOL, Mal translates "Scheiße" as "Darn!" :lol:

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 08:14 PM
Scores ??????

Neely
03-07-2004, 08:15 PM
2-2 Kiefer got the rebreak after 40-0 on serve Spadea

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 08:20 PM
2-2 Kiefer got the rebreak after 40-0 on serve Spadea

Vince :mad:

Neely
03-07-2004, 08:22 PM
Anybody wanna translate what Kiwi just said? ;)
he said "nothing happens, Spadea's doing nothing and I'm doing such a shit" (with that backhand error)

MisterQ
03-07-2004, 08:26 PM
I have heard Rainer exclaim "Scheiße" pretty loudly too. I guess they think no one will care.

Personally I like it, it's a great word. :)

Neely
03-07-2004, 08:28 PM
I think Norm Christ cannot now every swear word in every language *g* ;)

Neely
03-07-2004, 08:30 PM
40-0
40-15
game Kiefer

he's leading 4-3*

Neely
03-07-2004, 08:32 PM
Whoa! Kiwi's pulling a Roddick now, aceing Spadea to death....
lol, I think he would glad if he had the serve of Andy ;)

Kiwi's serve percentage was 44% at 2-1 2nd set when they showed the stats for the last time

MisterQ
03-07-2004, 08:35 PM
They need to move the baseline back six inches for Kiefer!

He's missing so many shots just long.

MisterQ
03-07-2004, 08:38 PM
great return by VS

MisterQ
03-07-2004, 08:39 PM
ouch... inexcusable volley error by Kiefer

Neely
03-07-2004, 08:39 PM
OMG, Kiefer netted a backhand volley smash and break Spadea... incredible error :(

Spadea *5-4
serving for the match

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 08:39 PM
Vince :D Serve it out NOW :)

Neely
03-07-2004, 08:44 PM
Norm Christ overrules and give double fault Spadea

rebreak Kiefer

5-5

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 08:44 PM
Vince...no :(

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 08:45 PM
arggggggggggghh :mad:

MisterQ
03-07-2004, 08:45 PM
The overrule was correct. (MisterQ says so. :) )

Neely
03-07-2004, 08:49 PM
Kiefer holds to 30

he's leading 6-5*

MisterQ
03-07-2004, 08:53 PM
WOW did you see that point!? :eek:

Masto22
03-07-2004, 08:57 PM
tie break?

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 09:03 PM
No Vince :(

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 09:06 PM
pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

Neely
03-07-2004, 09:07 PM
Kiefer got almost all returns on Spadea's serve in, that won him the tiebreak even if he also had lots of unforced errors or double faults

tiebreak 7-5 to Kiefer, he wins the second set 7-6.

show us some more, Kiwi! :)

TheBoiledEgg
03-07-2004, 09:07 PM
way to go Kiwi :D
now dont mess up ok

gmak
03-07-2004, 09:09 PM
omg! spadea is choking badly.....

KarstenBraasch#1
03-07-2004, 09:09 PM
Everything is okay. I'm okay. What a nice day. :)

That forehand at 5-4 15-15 into the open court was a tough one for Spadea. No, he didn't choke, it was Kiefer's GREAT play. Go Kiefer, I love you. 0-40, yay !!! :D

J. Corwin
03-07-2004, 09:12 PM
Now ESPN is cutting to hockey over the LIVE TENNIS. "But no worries tennis fans...we'll keep you updated every once in awhile". :rolleyes:

KarstenBraasch#1
03-07-2004, 09:13 PM
Damn, Kiefer 0-1 :crying2:

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 09:16 PM
Come on Vince ! You've gotta win this match :)

MisterQ
03-07-2004, 09:18 PM
OOO, too bad PMac's not here to say "The DROPPER!" :lol:

Jeff
03-07-2004, 09:18 PM
1-1, third set

Com'on Kiefer! :yeah:

lalaland
03-07-2004, 09:18 PM
Who is serving first in the 3rd set?

Neely
03-07-2004, 09:19 PM
Who is serving first in the 3rd set?
Spadea

1-1

lalaland
03-07-2004, 09:20 PM
Thank you, Neely.

Lee
03-07-2004, 09:22 PM
:bounce: GO KIWI :bounce:

MisterQ
03-07-2004, 09:24 PM
Spadea needs to get some first serves in...

MisterQ
03-07-2004, 09:24 PM
these points are really entertaining!

Neely
03-07-2004, 09:25 PM
2-1* Spadea

very close games so far this 3rd set, all 3 games have gone over deuce several times

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 09:26 PM
Vince :yeah:

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 09:26 PM
Now, it's time for a break Vince ;)

Lee
03-07-2004, 09:27 PM
Damn, Dallas scored a goal already. Sorry about the hockey outburst.

Neely
03-07-2004, 09:33 PM
15-40
Kiefer saved two break points
deuce
ad Kiefer
deuce
ad Kiefer
game Kiefer

2-2

what a match now!

Neely
03-07-2004, 09:33 PM
Damn, Dallas scored a goal already. Sorry about the hockey outburst.
lol, thanks for the info :yeah: ;)

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 09:34 PM
Vince :mad: Don't waste those opportunities :( :sad:

TheBoiledEgg
03-07-2004, 09:35 PM
go Kiwi, break, i mean Peel him

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 09:36 PM
TBE : Why Kiwi ???

Lee
03-07-2004, 09:36 PM
lol, thanks for the info :yeah: ;)

Why someone in Europe want Dallas to win?

GO SHARKS!

Lee
03-07-2004, 09:37 PM
Both players are tired. It's hot in Scottsdale today!

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 09:37 PM
You've gotta hold Vince....

Neely
03-07-2004, 09:38 PM
0-15
0-30
15-30
30-30
40-30
40-40
ad Spadea
game Spadea

he's leading 3-2*

Tennisfan-Mtl
03-07-2004, 09:38 PM
Vince :)

Neely
03-07-2004, 09:39 PM
Why someone in Europe want Dallas to win?

yeah, you're right... I'm not interested in this game :cool:
was only a joke before :D

Lee
03-07-2004, 09:40 PM
yeah, you're right... I'm not interested in this game :cool:
was only a joke before :D

:lol: I know a Brasilian crazy about NHL hockey.

Lee
03-07-2004, 09:42 PM
Love game for Kiwi!

GO KIWI!!!!!!

Neely
03-07-2004, 09:42 PM
15-0
30-0
40-0
game Kiefer

3-3

that was the first game in the 3rd set that did not go over deuce

gmak
03-07-2004, 09:42 PM
this is a loooooooooooooooong match :yawn:

Neely
03-07-2004, 09:45 PM
Spadea looks more powerful in his strokes now again

4-3* Spadea

Lee
03-07-2004, 09:46 PM
These guys are melting under the heat .... :(

Now they're both complaining about the other holding up the match :lol:

It's really hot. I have 4 kids playing in the pool now and my place is usually a few degrees lower than the tournament site.

Lee
03-07-2004, 09:47 PM
Spadea looks more powerful in his strokes now again

4-3* Spadea

The crowd finally gets into the match. Start cheering on Spadea.

Lee
03-07-2004, 09:47 PM
Dallas leads San Jose 2-0 ;)

I know ;) but my Flames is 4-1 up on Avs. So I'm in good mood! :D

Lee
03-07-2004, 09:50 PM
Go Kiwi!!!

Neely
03-07-2004, 09:51 PM
break Spadea, he's serving for the match *5-3

Lee
03-07-2004, 09:51 PM
He serve for the match last set and lost!!

KarstenBraasch#1
03-07-2004, 09:51 PM
Who am I kidding ... SERVE IT OUT NOW VINCE, COME ON !!!
YEAH, WOOHOO !!!!!!!

KarstenBraasch#1
03-07-2004, 09:52 PM
40-0 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lee
03-07-2004, 09:53 PM
Congrat Spadea for his first title!

:sad: Kiwi :sad: Good luck in IW!

Neely
03-07-2004, 09:53 PM
Spadea wins! 6-3

MisterQ
03-07-2004, 09:53 PM
Congrats Vince! That took some guts. :yeah:

KarstenBraasch#1
03-07-2004, 09:53 PM
OMG YESSSSSSS !!!!!!!!

:banana: :yeah: :woohoo: :bounce: :crazy: :D :bowdown: :worship:

TheBoiledEgg
03-07-2004, 09:54 PM
trust Mr Nobrain to give Journeyman his 1st title :retard: :smash:

Kiefer ......... :smash: :banghead:

Neely
03-07-2004, 09:54 PM
great match for both players... well, finally Spadea was due for his 1st title :)

very good tournaments for Kiwi! :woohoo: :woohoo:

gmak
03-07-2004, 09:54 PM
well done vince :yeah:

after Anthony Dupuis, we have another 30-year-old winning his first ATP title in 2004!

Lee
03-07-2004, 09:56 PM
trust Mr Nobrain to give Journeyman his 1st title :retard: :smash:

Kiefer ......... :smash: :banghead:


With 1st serve under 50%, I'm amaze that Kiwi made it to 3 sets! :mad:

Masto22
03-07-2004, 09:57 PM
Congratulations Vince!

Chris Seahorse
03-07-2004, 09:57 PM
I can only imagine how much Vince must have dreamt of this day when he was in the middle of his 18 game losing streak back in 2000.

Sjengster
03-07-2004, 09:57 PM
Yes!!! After beating Roddick I so wanted Spadea to lift the title and prove that he isn't the ultimate journeyman on tour, and now he's done it! A first career title as he's about to turn 30, and a good time to get it as well considering he has big IW points to defend very soon. All those who thought Spadea would be first Roddick and then Kiefer fodder, eat your words!

J. Corwin
03-07-2004, 09:58 PM
congrats Vince! :D

Neely
03-07-2004, 09:59 PM
I can only imagine how much Vince must have dreamt of this day when he was in the middle of his 18 game losing streak back in 2000.
yes really... I'm far away from being a fan of him :lol: but I feel a little bit glad for him also that he won his 1st ever title now... he waited long enough, he had a great tournament... well done for him!

gmak
03-07-2004, 10:00 PM
he also served for the match in Indianapolis 1999 against Nicholas Lapentti but blew it!

he got his reward 5 years later ;)

Neely
03-07-2004, 10:03 PM
All those who thought Spadea would be first Roddick and then Kiefer fodder, eat your words!
thanks, but I'm not hungry at the moment :cool: :lol: :lol:

Chris Seahorse
03-07-2004, 10:11 PM
yes really... I'm far away from being a fan of him :lol: but I feel a little bit glad for him also that he won his 1st ever title now... he waited long enough, he had a great tournament... well done for him!

I have alot of admiration for you. Whoever you support you are always fair and respectful to the other player. I tend to root for underdogs (unless lve made a bet on the favorite :devil: ) so i was thrilled to see Spadea finally win a title but I like Kiefer too and it's good to see him playing well again. I think kief's looking good for a return to the top 20 if he can keep it up.

Tricky_Forehand
03-07-2004, 10:15 PM
I'm still in shock :eek: . I can't believe what happened almost 30 minutes ago. I wish that we could see this award ceremony. I definitely don't think there was any love lost between these two...lol.

What I really found ironic was that Norm Chryst was the umpire for this match. He was also the umpire for Nicolas's Final in Memphis and for anyone who saw it...you know it wasn't pretty between those two at the end :) .

If Vince had not played Nicolas today I could've possibly been happier for him but right now I'm just in shock. This was still a great week for Nicolas and I hope that he can take the positive with the negative and use it for IW.

Great week, Nicolas!! :D

Congratulations to Vince!! :)

Neely
03-07-2004, 10:31 PM
I have alot of admiration for you. Whoever you support you are always fair and respectful to the other player.
thanks a lot :D ... I appreciate it very much :hatoff:

sure I wanted Kiwi to win but my thinking was also that it must have been awful for Spadea if he never ever won a title in his career... now he got it well deserved and I can handle it.


I definitely don't think there was any love lost between these two...lol.
you're right.. the handshake wasn't a very "lovely" one (neither with Norm Chryst *g*) and they didn't spend much time with chatting/talking to each other, lol... and before Kiefer went to the net he also broke/slammed his racket to the floor

Leo
03-07-2004, 10:43 PM
Excellent match, guys. I really enjoyed it. Too bad about the end result, though. :( It came down to fitness, and Vince was physically stronger.

Leo
03-07-2004, 10:45 PM
I can only imagine how much Vince must have dreamt of this day when he was in the middle of his 18 game losing streak back in 2000.

Actually it was a 21-match losing streak. :devil:

Neely
03-07-2004, 10:55 PM
I'm sure that Spadea tells his grandchilds stories about this win some time :)

it's for sure a very great day for him! maybe his greatest ever?
he should enjoy it :worship:

Neely
03-07-2004, 11:01 PM
"I'm quite excited" Spadea said after needing 223 tournaments to get his maiden win. "I'm 29-years-old, I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks."

get the complete article at http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpNDU1cml1BF9TAzk1ODYyNTg0BHNlYwN0 aA--?slug=scottsdaletennis&prov=st&type=lgns

Chris Seahorse
03-07-2004, 11:14 PM
Actually it was a 21-match losing streak. :devil:

OF COURSE!!! I forgot the 3 World Team Cup matches. :rolleyes:
Well spotted Leo. ;)

Neely
03-07-2004, 11:30 PM
he also served for the match in Indianapolis 1999 against Nicholas Lapentti but blew it!
maybe I'm missing something here, but how can you serve for the match if you lose 6-4 4-6 4-6 :confused: :confused:

Scotso
03-07-2004, 11:38 PM
Congrats Vince!!!!! :bounce:

Billabong
03-08-2004, 12:10 AM
Congrats Spadea:)!

kfh_9118
03-08-2004, 01:06 AM
Kiwi :bigcry: :sad:

2nd final lost in a row :( :mad: The great news is he has got back his fighting spirit, once in the SF, and now in the F, he could win the second set after the opponents served for the match. Well done, Kiwi :)

Congrats to Spadea too for his 1st career title :)

Mrs. B
03-08-2004, 06:19 PM
a bit late, but congrats to my cousin Vinny. ;)
saw the match last night on Eurosport and glad he pulled through. His first career title at almost 30. Better late than never... :)