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Ashe/Conners' 1975 Wimbledon Final - Arthur Changed Strategies

gogogirl
12-04-2006, 07:16 PM
All,

Speaking of Federer and the fact that other players need to learn how to play him. Has there been a match other than the 1975 Wimby final where a player completely revamped his/her game to beat a foe/nemesis?

I have been trying to find the video of the aforementioned - but to no avail. Amazon is even out of stock. They suggested one contact the studio. I would love to watch that bad boy of a match. Anyone got a copy? Mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn! LOL!

What Arthur did is what players of today need to learn how to do to beat Fed. Whom do you think can achieve this. I mean really change up his game and strategy in order to beat him?

Authur had never attacked the net so much as he did in that final.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/story/0,,1404078,00.html

http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/about/history/1975.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/5/newsid_2798000/2798971.stm

Loremaster
12-04-2006, 07:48 PM
Andy Roddick did it in TMC, he was mixing his game perfectly, but it was not enough he was his best shot from win and lost it , happens, and these bad volley at 6-4 in tB:D, but he made great work changing his style, he is not natural net rusher but he is going to net , putting Fed under pressure, and Fed does not like this , Fed does not like to play away from baseline

Nadal is doing this also, he si always more agressive against Fed, pushing him, and shoting more winners than in other matches

Osama B Hitler
12-05-2006, 12:40 AM
Authur had never attacked the net so much as he did in that final.

That was not the tactic which won the '75 Wimby title for Ashe. The tactic he employed to beat Connors was to hit a lot of low bouncing , no pace slice shots to Connors' forehand wing. Since Jimmy hit a totally flat ball, but tried to hit every shot hard and deep, it produced a bunch of forehand errors by him. Connors had very little margin for error on those forehands and it showed.

The other thing Ashe did was to hit mostly slice serves to Connors' backhand side to swing him way wide on the return. Ashe hit the slice serve well to begin with and he knew this would go into Connors' backhand side which, b/c of the 2 hands on the racquet, would automatically give Jimmy problems b/c of the limited reach.

To Connors' credit he adjusted after that loss to Ashe and learned how to deal with that shot - he would swing comfortably and slightly come under it. This gave him a lot more control of the shot. Ashe tried the same tactic the next 2 times they played (both of which were finals) but Connors won both matches (and 5 out of 6 sets played).

And I think many have tried a whole slew of tactics against Federer but nothing has genuinely worked b/c Fed has such a complete game. The one thing he doesn't seem to like is a high bouncing ball to his backhand side. Nadal can do this to Fed naturally b/c its just the way he hits the ball. Roddick employed this tactic, courtesy of Brad Gilbert, against Fed in his lone win against him - he hit a bunch of big kicking serves to Fed's backhand side and got a lot of errors or short balls as a result. But Federer seems to realize this and is hitting that ball a little better nowadays.

tennisvideos
12-14-2006, 07:20 AM
All,

Speaking of Federer and the fact that other players need to learn how to play him. Has there been a match other than the 1975 Wimby final where a player completely revamped his/her game to beat a foe/nemesis?

I have been trying to find the video of the aforementioned - but to no avail. Amazon is even out of stock. They suggested one contact the studio. I would love to watch that bad boy of a match. Anyone got a copy? Mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn! LOL!

What Arthur did is what players of today need to learn how to do to beat Fed. Whom do you think can achieve this. I mean really change up his game and strategy in order to beat him?

Authur had never attacked the net so much as he did in that final.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/story/0,,1404078,00.html

http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/about/history/1975.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/5/newsid_2798000/2798971.stm

You can buy a DVD or Video of the match in full from this site in England ...

http://www.users.bigpond.com/tennisvideos1/

Cheers

Bancroft PS
12-19-2006, 05:20 AM
A few matches come to mind. Guillermo Vilas employed the same tactic against Connors at the '77 U.S. Open final and succeeded. What made that remarkable was the fact that he switched tactics in the middle of the match. He started the match trying to hit with Connors and Jimmy won the first set easily. Then in the second Vilas instead of going over the ball, sliced it to Connors forehand wing that produced errors. Coaching from the stands wasn't as gross a violation back then as it is today because Ion Tiriac definitely gave verbal direction to Vilas.

Gabriela Sabatini employed different tactics against Steffi Graf at the '90 U.S. Open final. Instead of trying to play Graf's backhand to avoid the big forehand, she attacked the forehand which made Steffi hit it on the run which wasn't as potent a shot as when she was in a more stationary position in the middle of the court. She approached the net much more during this match which resulted in her victory. Prior to this her success against Graf was largely on clay only.

Bjorn Borg's string of successes against Connors began when he altered a couple of shots that became bigger weapons for Connors to cope with. Sometime between '76-'77 he improved his serve which had been much like Connors', a sliced shot that began the rally. Borg learned to flatten it out and acquired one of the biggest and most reliable serves of that day. The other shot that Borg improved was his backhand. He took the backswing further back which gave him higher racquet speed on the swing, and Borg was able to get the shot deeper in the court. Prior to this, Borg's backhand produced a lot of shots that landed short in the court which enabled Connors to lean into and swing winners at Borg. With the improved backhand, he pushed Connors back more frequently. He owned Connors for the most part after these alterations.