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Frooty_Bazooty
03-06-2004, 07:03 PM
Hi, I'd like to try organising the PAW for this event. I bet a lot on tennis so I know a lot about odds. And also Im good with statistics and numbers.

If anyone wants to sign up for this, please do so before Friday 12th March, the first day of play.

Thanks,

Tom


P=Played
W=Won
L=Lost
Pts=Points


Commitment list:

Spikeyaidanm, CooCooCachoo, Lady,Croat123, Mane, Frooty_Bazooty, paellapan, nitsansh, Naldo, anantak2k, 1jackson2001, oxy, WilliamHunt, jrm, nica, nir, bgbgbg, Leo, azza, Masto22, Wyven

Spikeyaidanm:
1. [33] 2. [9] 3. [0] 4. [16] 5. [10] 6. [15] 7. [0] 8. [10] 9. [24] 10. [0] 11. [10] 12. [0] 13. [11] 14. [24] 15. [0] 16. [13] 17. [0] 18. [10] 19. [0]

CooCooCachoo:
1. [0] 2. [0] 3. [0] 4. [0] 5. [9] 6. [0] 7. [7] 8. [14] 9. [0] 10. [8] 11. [11] 12. [0] 13. [0] 14. [0] 15. [0] 16. [9] 17. [8] 18. [0] 19. [0]

Lady:
1. [33] 2. [16] 3. [0] 4. [8] 5. [10] 6. [9] 7. [15] 8. [0] 9. [24] 10. [11] 11. [33] 12. [12] 13. [24] 14. [0] 15. [0] 16. [0] 17. [9] 18. [13] 19. [9]

Mane:
1. [9] 2. [0] 3. [14] 4. [9] 5. [10] 6. [10] 7. [10] 8. [0] 9. [0] 10. [8] 11. [0] 12. [24] 13. [11] 14. [0] 15. [3] 16. [9] 17. [10]

Frooty_Bazooty:
1. [10] 2. [16] 3. [0] 4. [9] 5. [0] 6. [0] 7. [15] 8. [0] 9. [0] 10. [33] 11. [0] 12. [11] 13. [11] 14. [24] 15. [0] 16. [13] 17. [10] 18. [7] 19. [9]

paellapan:
1. [12] 2. [33] 3. [0] 4. [10] 5. [0] 6. [0] 7. [0] 8. [24] 9. [0] 10. [12] 11. [0] 12. [0] 13. [9] 14. [10] 15. [12] 16. [9] 17. [10] 18. [10] 19. [13]

nitsansh:
1. [33] 2. [14] 3. [16] 4. [33] 5. [0] 6. [24] 7. [0] 8. [0] 9. [0] 10. [11] 11. [12] 12. [0] 13. [12] 14. [24] 15. [0] 16. [0] 17. [13] 18. [10] 19. [0]

Naldo:
1. [0] 2. [16] 3. [0] 4. [9] 5. [14] 6. [0] 7. [0] 8. [24] 9. [0] 10. [12] 11. [10] 12. [0] 13. [0] 14. [10] 15. [13] 16. [0]

1jackson2001:
1. [7] 2. [0] 3. [0] 4. [0] 5. [16] 6. [0] 7. [] 8. [] 9. [] 10. [] 11. [] 12. [] 13. [] 14. [] 15. [] 16. [] 17. [] 18. [] 19. []

oxy:
1. [7] 2. [8] 3. [0] 4. [10] 5. [0] 6. [16] 7. [0] 8. [33] 9. [9] 10. [0] 11. [11] 12. [24] 13. [0] 14. [0] 15. [12] 16. [0] 17. [0] 18. [10] 19. [7]

William Hunt:
1. [16] 2. [14] 3. [8] 4. [10] 5. [10] 6. [9] 7. [0] 8. [8] 9. [] 10. [9] 11. [10] 12. [] 13. [] 14. [9] 15. [5] 16. [13] 17. [0] 18. [8] 19. [9]

jrm:
1. [12] 2. [0] 3. [0] 4. [0] 5. [0] 6. [10] 7. [10] 8. [10] 9. [15] 10. [0] 11. [0] 12. [10] 13. [12] 14. [24] 15. [0] 16. [11] 17. [0] 18. [0] 19. [8]

nica:
1. [14] 2. [0] 3. [0] 4. [33] 5. [16] 6. [0] 7. [0] 8. [0] 9. [24] 10. [11] 11. [33] 12. [0] 13. [24] 14. [0] 15. [0] 16. [] 17. [] 18. [] 19. []

nir:
1. [16] 2. [15] 3. [33] 4. [0] 5. [0] 6. [0] 7. [13] 8. [0] 9. [12] 10. [10] 11. [12] 12. [0] 13. [0] 14. [10] 15. [0] 16. [0] 17. [0] 18. [0] 19. [9]

bgbgbg:
1. [33] 2. [0] 3. [0] 4. [0] 5. [15] 6. [33] 7. [9] 8. [24] 9. [0] 10. [10] 11. [8] 12. [0] 13. [0] 14. [7] 15. [9] 16. [0] 17. [10] 18. [7] 19. [9]

Leo:
1. [0] 2. [0] 3. [16] 4. [0] 5. [0] 6. [12] 7. [0] 8. [] 9. [] 10. [5] 11. [13] 12. [0] 13. [7]

azza:
1. [7] 2. [0] 3. [10] 4. [0] 5. [16] 6. [0] 7. [] 8. [] 9. [] 10. [] 11. [] 12. [] 13. [] 14. [12] 15. [10] 16. [] 17. [] 18. [] 19. []

Masto22:
1. [16] 2. [15] 3. [10] 4. [33] 5. [0] 6. [12] 7. [11] 8. [0] 9. [0] 10. [0] 11. [] 12. [0] 13. [0] 14. [0] 15. [0] 16. [0] 17. [0] 18. [10] 19. [7]

Wyven:
1. [33] 2. [10] 3. [0] 4. [10] 5. [15] 6. [0] 7. [8] 8. [33] 9. [0] 10. [0] 11. [24] 12. [11] 13. [24] 14. [9] 15. [0] 16. [9] 17. [0] 18. [13] 19. [10]

PAW leaderboard :

Name.......................................... P W L Pts

Lady............................................19 / 14 / 5 / 226
nitsansh.......................................19 / 11 / 8 / 202
Spikeyaidanm................................19 / 12 / 7 / 185
Frooty_Bazooty.............................14 / 12 / 7 / 178
Wyven.........................................19 / 13 / 6 / 177
bgbgbg........................................19 / 12 / 7 / 174
paellapan.....................................19 / 12 / 7 / 164
nica............................................15 / 7 / 8 / 155
oxy............................................19 / 11 / 8 / 147
nir..............................................1 4 / 9 / 10 / 130
Mane...........................................17 / 12 / 5 / 127
Masto22......................................19 / 8 / 11 / 123
jrm.............................................19 / 10 / 9 / 122
Naldo..........................................16 / 8 / 8 / 108
William Hunt.................................8 / 7 / 1 / 75
CooCooCachoo..............................17 / 7 / 12 / 66
Leo.............................................11 / 6 / 5 / 53
azza...........................................6 / 3 / 3 / 33
1jackson2001...............................6 / 2 / 4 / 23

nitsansh
03-06-2004, 09:21 PM
Are the rules the same as women's PAW?

Frooty_Bazooty
03-06-2004, 11:44 PM
yep, same concept as the WTA one.

Ill post the scoring points for each round as they happen and you may pick 19 matches as it is a 96 draw tournament. you can read all the rules here (http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=95734)

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-07-2004, 12:42 AM
I may play here pending on marcobarella's involvement.

ktwtennis
03-07-2004, 01:46 AM
Are you going to continue to do this throughout the year?

Leo
03-07-2004, 05:02 AM
Yeah, sure.

CooCooCachoo
03-07-2004, 08:06 AM
Seems like fun. I'll play.

Lady
03-07-2004, 01:10 PM
I'll play!! :)

croat123
03-07-2004, 02:34 PM
i'm in :)

Mane
03-07-2004, 02:53 PM
I'm in

Frooty_Bazooty
03-07-2004, 05:04 PM
dont worry, marco will not be involved in anyway with the organisation :D

Frooty_Bazooty
03-07-2004, 05:18 PM
Are you going to continue to do this throughout the year?

Ill see how this one goes first :)

nitsansh
03-07-2004, 05:44 PM
Count me in this game too

count me out of anti-marco alliance, though

Havok
03-07-2004, 05:49 PM
in

paellapan
03-07-2004, 05:52 PM
dont worry, marco will not be involved in anyway with the organisation :D

In that case I'm gonna give it a shot :)

SaFed2005
03-07-2004, 10:10 PM
I'm in...

J. Corwin
03-07-2004, 10:14 PM
Count me in

oxy
03-08-2004, 06:06 AM
count me in too!!! ;)

jrm
03-08-2004, 12:21 PM
Put me on the list

Nica
03-08-2004, 01:42 PM
im in :cool:

Nir
03-08-2004, 03:32 PM
Im in :D

William Hunt
03-08-2004, 03:36 PM
In

bgbgbg
03-08-2004, 03:40 PM
count me in too
lets try again here ;)

Frooty_Bazooty
03-09-2004, 03:29 PM
bump for more views :angel:

Frooty_Bazooty
03-09-2004, 09:59 PM
first round matches up

CooCooCachoo
03-10-2004, 05:00 AM
- Bumps along -

I will only be able to pick first round matches, though, since I have a school trip to Paris next week.

Frooty_Bazooty
03-10-2004, 10:58 AM
np, dont forget to use all 19 of your picks though

CooCooCachoo
03-10-2004, 11:39 AM
OK :)

jrm
03-10-2004, 01:08 PM
PAW01: SARGSIAN def. ANCIC
PAW02: ZABALETA def. SLUITER
PAW03: MOODIE def. HORNA
PAW04: CORRETJA def. FERRER
PAW05: ESCUDE def. GAUDIO
PAW06: LAPENTTI def. RAMIREZ HIDALGO

azza
03-10-2004, 01:15 PM
me :)

azza
03-10-2004, 01:18 PM
Paw 1 sargsian over ancic
Paw 2 Martin over dubios
Paw 3 Arazi over Rochus ( :( )
Paw 4 Ljubicic over soderling
Paw 5 canas over volandri
Paw 6 santoro over snagunetti

Frooty_Bazooty
03-10-2004, 03:06 PM
Edit: New PAWs chosen due to new points

oxy
03-10-2004, 04:01 PM
PAW1: Escude defeats Gaudio
PAW2: Martin, Todd defeats Dupis
PAW3: Youzhny defeats Lee

nitsansh
03-10-2004, 06:45 PM
Some scoring points have no relation with the ranking!!!!!!

nitsansh
03-10-2004, 06:55 PM
Volandri vs Canas [11-9]
Zabaleta vs Sluiter [13-8]
Moodie vs Horna [10-12]
Sanchez vs Saulnier [12-8]
Arazi vs Rochus [12-8]
Ljubicic vs Soderling [11-9]
Ramirez Hidalgo vs Lapentti, Nicolas [8-12]


In all these matches the higher ranked gets more points.

Frooty_Bazooty
03-10-2004, 07:24 PM
do you want me to do it solely on ranking?

I was basing the points on recent form, ability on hard courts and also the odds at the website i bet at

Volandri vs Canas [11-9] Volandri is unproven on hard courts
Zabaleta vs Sluiter [13-8] zabaleta is clay court player more and sluiter has had good results on hard
Moodie vs Horna [10-12] moodie is hard court player, horna is clay
Sanchez vs Saulnier [12-8] saulnier is much better on hard than sanchez who is clay court specialist
Arazi vs Rochus [12-8] arazi has been imjured and so has not played for a while
Ljubicic vs Soderling [11-9] soderling reached first final, ljubicic's performance in Dubai was shaky
Ramirez Hidalgo vs Lapentti, Nicolas [8-12] lapentti is clay court specialist and even then he did terrible on the south american clay court swing

If you want me to do it based solely on ranking, I will. Is that what they do on WTAworld?

Lady
03-10-2004, 07:41 PM
Yes, on WTA World they base it on rankings...
That's why it's better, cos lower ranked are usually an underdog ;)

Plus, if a lower ranked is in better form & we know it, we'll pick him ;)

I think that points based on rankings are better :shrug: :angel:

Frooty_Bazooty
03-10-2004, 07:53 PM
okey dokey, give me 10 minutes and ill change the points

Frooty_Bazooty
03-10-2004, 08:15 PM
sorry about the mix up everyone :o

jrm, oxy and azza, you can change your PAWs if you want to

William Hunt
03-10-2004, 08:20 PM
My picks were here, however I cancel them since I saw that the odds are changed (and in some cases some of my picks are not so interesting anymore), I will pick again.

William Hunt
03-10-2004, 08:32 PM
PAW 1 Guillermo CANAS over Filipo VOLANDRI
PAW 2 Raemon SLUITER over Mariano ZABALETA
PAW 3 Mikhail YOUZHNY over Hyung-Taik LEE
PAW 4 Xavier MALISSE over Karol BECK
PAW 5 Nicolas ESCUDE over Gaston GAUDIO
PAW 6 Victor HANESCU over Jürgen MELZER
PAW 7 Igor ANDREEV over Wayne FERREIRA
PAW 8 Andre PAVEL over Ivo KARLOVIC

Lady
03-10-2004, 09:16 PM
Thank you, Froozy :kiss:

Lady
03-10-2004, 09:25 PM
PAW1: Haas over Enquist
PAW2: Canas over Volandri
PAW3: Ancic over Sargsian
PAW4: Youzhny over Lee
PAW5: Soderling over Ljubicic
PAW6: Blake over Stepanek

bgbgbg
03-10-2004, 10:38 PM
PAW1: Haas over Enqvist
PAW2: Andreev over Ferreira

Leo
03-11-2004, 01:15 AM
PAW1: Nicholas ESCUDE over Gaston GAUDIO
PAW2: Wesley MOODIE over Luis HORNA
PAW3: Nicholas KIEFER over Flavio SARETTA
PAW4: Guillermo CANAS over Filippo VOLANDRI

Havok
03-11-2004, 03:53 AM
PAW 1: Martin over Dupuis
PAW 1: Canas over Volandri
PAW 3: Ancic over Sargsian
PAW 4: Blake over Stepanek
PAW 5: Sluiter over Zabaleta
and :rocker2::rocker2::rocker2: to Frooty_Bazooty, you really took excellent control over this game and manage it very well. set it up properly and everything. nice stuff:yeah::worship:

Frooty_Bazooty
03-11-2004, 07:10 AM
:woohoo: thx naldo ;)

Mane
03-11-2004, 08:02 AM
PAW1:Hanescu over Melzer
PAW2:Ancic over Sargsian
PAW3:Sluiter over Zabaleta
PAW4:Blake over Stepanek
PAW5:Ljubicic over Soderling
PAW6:Malisse over Beck
PAW7:Escude over Gaudio
PAW8:Kiefer over Saretta

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-11-2004, 08:36 AM
PAW1: Haas over Enqvist
PAW2: Blake over Stephanek
PAW3: Martin over Dupuis
PAW4: Canas over Volandri :sad:
PAW5: Lapentti over Ramirez Hidalgo

:bigwave:

oxy
03-11-2004, 09:29 AM
frooty, i stick with my earlier PAW....thanx for the effort...;)

jrm
03-11-2004, 12:05 PM
Delete all my previous picks, here are the new:

PAW01: CORRETJA def. FERRER
PAW02: ESCUDE def. GAUDIO
PAW03: SAULNIER def. SANCHEZ
PAW04: KIEFER def. SARETTA
PAW05: MOODIE def. HORNA
PAW06: ANCIC def. SARGSIAN

Frooty_Bazooty
03-11-2004, 04:55 PM
PAW1: Escude over Gaudio
PAW2: Canas over Volandri
PAW3: Moodie over Horna
PAW4: Hanescu over Melzer
PAW5: Kiefer over Saretta
PAW6: Saulnier over Sanchez

Nica
03-11-2004, 07:52 PM
PAW1: Sluiter over Zabaleta
PAW2: Ancic over Sargsian
PAW3: Karlovic over Pavel
PAW4: Haas over Enqvist
PAW5: Canas over Volandri
PAW6: Ljubicic over Soderling

nitsansh
03-11-2004, 11:59 PM
PAW1: Haas...... over Enqvist... [33-3]
PAW2: Sluiter... over Zabaleta.. [14-6]
PAW3: Canas..... over Volandri.. [16-6]

Masto22
03-12-2004, 12:07 AM
Can I play or it is too late?

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-12-2004, 05:25 AM
PAW6: T.Johansson over Tursunov
PAW7: H-T.Lee over Youzhny

CooCooCachoo
03-12-2004, 06:50 AM
OK Since I will have no time to play once the tournament has already started, I have to select all 19 picks now..

PAW1: Ferrer df. Corretja.. First round match
PAW2: Robredo (19) df. Ferrer .. Second round
PAW3: Kiefer df. Saretta
PAW4: Ramirez Hidalgo df. N. Lapentti
PAW5: J. Blake df. Stepanek
PAW6: O. Rochus df. Arazi
PAW7: Sargsian df. Ancic
PAW8: Sluiter df. Zabaleta
PAW9: Santoro df. Sanguinetti
PAW10: Youzhny df. H-T. Lee.. First round match
PAW11: Youzhny df. Philippoussis .. Second round
PAW12: Moodie df. Horna
PAW13: Beck df. Malisse
PAW14: Saulnier df. Sanchez
PAW15: Volandri df. Caņas
PAW16: Hanescu df. Melzer
PAW17: Pavel df. Karlovic
PAW18: Escudé df. Schalken.. Second round
PAW19: Kuerten df. Verkerk.. Third round

That's it :)

BTW Spikey.. how do you know who Tursunov is playing? The draw doesn't mention any qualifiers yet, not on the official site anyways.

Frooty_Bazooty
03-12-2004, 08:10 AM
points have been updated with all qualifiers. because the indian wells site hasnt updated their draw :mad: i had to find out the qualie matches from the order of play. this is why some of them are unavailable, they must be playing tomorrow

coocoo: if the people who are playing in first round matches who you have in 2nd round PAWs dont win, Ill just take the alternative winner. for example:

PAW11: Youzhny (or Lee) dt Philippoussis

Masto22: its not too late to join, ive put you on the commitment list.

deadline for signups is 10 am indian wells time (6pm GMT) tonight (12th march)

thanks guys ;)

Frooty_Bazooty
03-12-2004, 08:17 AM
PAW7: Johansson over Tursunov
PAW8: Vahaly over Levy

one final thing, it seems ferrero has withdrawn with smallpox and his place has been taken by number 33 seed gaudio. unfortunately, most of us have bet on Escude to beat Gaudio but now escude will be playing Salzenstein.

If this is right, (yet again i cant check cos they havent updated the draw page :mad: ) then escude vs salzenstein will become a (10-10) match.

Tom :wavey:

WyveN
03-12-2004, 08:37 AM
i will play

WyveN
03-12-2004, 08:44 AM
PAW 1: Haas over Enqvist
PAW 2: Gambill over Van Lottum
PAW 3: Kiefer over Saretta
PAW 4: Escude over whoever
PAW 5: Johansson over Tursonov
PAW 6: Martin over dupuis
PAW 7: Pavel over Karlovic

jrm
03-12-2004, 10:24 AM
PAW08: WEINER def. ULLIHRACH
PAW09: JOHANSSON def. TURSUNOV
PAW10: ARTHURS def. BROWNE
PAW11: LAROSE def. MANTILLA

oxy
03-12-2004, 11:00 AM
frooty...these are my new picks after Ferrero's withdrawal...kindly ignore my earlier picks...thanx...:)

PAW1: Nadal over Burgsmuller
PAW2:Youzhny over Lee
PAW3: Martin, Todd over Dupis
PAW4: Escude over whoever he plays
PAW5: Verdasco over whoever he plays

jrm
03-12-2004, 11:33 AM
PAW12: NIEMEYER def. A. MARTIN

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-12-2004, 11:55 AM
PAW8: Escude over salzenstein

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-12-2004, 11:57 AM
PAW9: Hernych over Davydenko
PAW10: Vahaly over Levy
PAW11: Gambill over Van Lottum

oxy
03-12-2004, 11:59 AM
PAW6: Canas over Volandri

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-12-2004, 12:02 PM
sorry PAW8 should be: Escude over Verdasco

Masto22
03-12-2004, 12:20 PM
PAW1 Caņas d. Volandri
PAW2 T. Johansson d. Tursunov
PAW3 Escude d. Gaudio

Masto22
03-12-2004, 12:23 PM
Gaudio receive a bye... So I pick for 2 matches???

bgbgbg
03-12-2004, 02:33 PM
PAW3: Vahaly over Levy
PAW4: Ancic over Sargsian
PAW5: T.Johansson over Tursunov
PAW6: Weiner over Ulihrach

Nir
03-12-2004, 04:47 PM
PAW1: Canas over Volandri
PAW2: Johansson over Tursunov
PAW3: Weiner over Ulihrach
PAW4: Ascione over Labadze
PAW5: Andreev over Ferreira

J. Corwin
03-12-2004, 07:24 PM
Paw 1 sargsian over ancic
Paw 2 Martin over dubios
Paw 3 kiefer over saretta
Paw 4 Ljubicic over soderling
Paw 5 canas over volandri
Paw 6 santoro over snagunetti

Havok
03-12-2004, 07:46 PM
PAW 6: Niemeyer over Martin

Lady
03-12-2004, 07:50 PM
PAW7: Johansson over Tursunov

Nica
03-12-2004, 09:07 PM
PAW7: Johansson over Tursunov

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-12-2004, 09:22 PM
Nica, that PAW7 is too late, it is now just 13 minutes after you made the PAW and Johansson is already up 6-4, 1-0 (match in progress for 59 minutes)

WyveN
03-12-2004, 11:29 PM
could i just say some of the points were pretty silly as they were based solely on rankings

e.g haas 33 points to beat enqvist.........and johansson some huge amount of points to beat Tursunov

Frooty_Bazooty
03-13-2004, 12:06 AM
sorry wyven but i cant work out some points on ranking and others on other factors. there has to be method and the one that has worked best on WTAworld is this one.

It could be a lot worse, i remember once on wtaworld, sandrine testud was coming back from giving birth and the points for her winning her first match back were 80 something and she did win. at least this was only 33 and you did bet on haas winning so i dont see what the big problem is

Havok
03-13-2004, 12:06 AM
thats the way people wanted it WyveN :retard::scared: Frooty had originally based the points on how they were playing now and how they are on the particular surface, and used the odds he uses when he bets on tennis. but over at wtaworld it's done by rankings, so he did it like that since some people made a little stink about it

WyveN
03-13-2004, 12:14 AM
thats ok, just seemed strange but i dont mind

Frooty_Bazooty
03-13-2004, 12:47 AM
first scores have been added in, rough scoreboard has been made.

pls guys, no picks after 6pm GMT (10 am indian well time) on the day the match is to be played. Ill put up the 2nd round points a.s.a.p. and there should be some good choices as the seeds come in

thx guys ;)

oxy
03-13-2004, 05:01 AM
sorry frooty looks like escude is playing against verdasco...please make these changes

PAW4: Escude over Verdasco
PAW5: Ascione over Labadze

thanx...:)

CooCooCachoo
03-13-2004, 06:30 AM
coocoo: if the people who are playing in first round matches who you have in 2nd round PAWs dont win, Ill just take the alternative winner. for example:

PAW11: Youzhny (or Lee) dt Philippoussis

That's fine with me :)

jrm
03-13-2004, 06:39 AM
PAW12: CANAS def. COSTA
PAW13: YOUZHNY def. PHILIPPOUSSIS
PAW14: HORNA def. LOPEZ

Nir
03-13-2004, 07:43 AM
Frooty in the league table I have only 31 points from 3 picks but I also picked Weiner over Ulihrach so I am on 64 pts from 4 matches :)

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-13-2004, 09:58 AM
My PAW's summary:

PAW1: Haas over Enqvist = 33 pts
PAW2: Blake over Stephanek = 9 pts
PAW3: Martin over Dupuis = 0 pts
PAW4: Canas over Volandri = 16 pts
PAW5: Lapentti over Ramirez Hidalgo = 10 pts
PAW6: T.Johansson over Tursunov = 15
PAW7: H-T.Lee over Youzhny = 0
PAW8: Escude over Verdasco = N/A
PAW9: Hernych over Davydenko = 24
PAW10: Vahaly over Levy = 0
PAW11: Gambill over Van Lottum = 10

I should be:

P:10 W: 7 L: 3 pts: 117

:wavey:

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-13-2004, 10:01 AM
PAW12: Canas over Costa

Frooty_Bazooty
03-13-2004, 10:27 AM
dont worry, i didnt leave peoples scores out. when i made that board it was around 3pm indian wells time so it was just that most of the matches hadnt been played ;)

im gonna update the scoreboard and picks now

Frooty_Bazooty
03-13-2004, 11:32 AM
PAW7: Ancic df Sargsian [13-7]

2nd round

PAW8: Haas df Srichaphan [33-3]
PAW9: Canas dt Costa [15-5]
PAW10: Youhzny dt Phillipossis [11-9]
PAW11: Nadal dt Massu [11-9]

Thx for writing that out Aidan, i appreciate the help :yeah:

Frooty_Bazooty
03-13-2004, 11:33 AM
oh man, i cant wait until we get out of bloody 64 draws :timebomb:

WyveN
03-13-2004, 11:41 AM
PAW 8: Haas over Schrichipan
PAW 9: Canas over Costa
PAW 10: Johansson over Hewitt
Paw 11: Arthurs over Schuettler

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-13-2004, 12:08 PM
PAW13: Nadal over Massu

WyveN
03-13-2004, 12:16 PM
PAW 12: Nadal over Massu

paellapan
03-13-2004, 12:27 PM
Well, here we go :cool:

PAW1 Dent over Kuerten
PAW2 Haas over Srichapan
PAW3 Kiefer over Saretta
PAW4 Blake over Ginepri
PAW5 Ancic over Sargsian
PAW6 Philippousis over Youzhny
PAW7 Levy over Björkman
PAW8 Arthurs over Schuettler
PAW9 Rochus over Arazi
PAW10 Horna over Lopez
PAW11 Canas over Costa
PAW12 Malisse over Hrbaty
PAW13 Chela over Martin
PAW14 Gaudio over Ferreira
PAW15 Lapentti over Verkerk
PAW16 Labadze over Ascione
PAW17 Escude over Verdasco
PAW18 Bogomolov over Salzenstein
PAW19 Corretja over Robredo

thx :)

oxy
03-13-2004, 02:33 PM
PAW7: Canas over Costa
PAW8: Haas over Srichaphan
PAW9: Hrbaty over Malisse
PAW10: Soderling over Calleri
PAW11: Nadal over Massu

Lady
03-13-2004, 02:43 PM
PAW8: Canas over Costa (15)
PAW9: Arthurs over Schuettler (24)
PAW10: Nadal over Massu (11)
PAW11: Haas over Srichaphan (33)

Nir
03-13-2004, 05:02 PM
PAW6: Canas over Costa
PAW7: Corretja over Robredo
PAW8: Soderling over Calleri
PAW9: Lapentti over Verkerk
PAW10: Ginepri over Blake

Nica
03-13-2004, 05:15 PM
PAW7: Canas over Costa
PAW8: Soderling over Calleri
PAW9: Arthurs over Schuettler
PAW10: Nadal over Massu
PAW11: Haas over Srichaphan

Masto22
03-13-2004, 08:13 PM
PAW3: Calleri d. Soderling
PAW4: Haas d. Srichaphan
PAW5: Johansson d. Hewitt

Masto22
03-13-2004, 08:18 PM
PAW6: Dent d. Kuerten
PAW7: Nadal d. Massu
PAW8: Ferreira d. Gaudio
PAW9: Caņas d. Costa
PAW10: Robredo d. Corretja

nitsansh
03-13-2004, 09:22 PM
Saturday picks:
PAW4: Haas over Srichaphan(10) [33-3]
PAW5: Johansson over Hewitt(8) [33-3]
PAW6: Arthurs over Schuettler(6) [24-4]
PAW7: Canas over Costa(23) [15-5]

Havok
03-13-2004, 11:31 PM
PAW 7:Johansson over Hewitt
PAW 8:Arthurs over Schuettler
PAW 9:Larose over Henman
PAW 10:Lapentti over Verkerk
PAW 11: Blake over Ginepri
PAW 12: Ferreira over Gaudio

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-14-2004, 08:02 AM
PAW14: Haas over Costa
PAW15: Soderling over Calleri

Frooty_Bazooty
03-14-2004, 10:11 AM
guys this really has to stop. In my original post i set a limit of 6pm GMT for choosing your picks. this is to stop people posting picks after the matches have happened. for example Naldo, you posted your picks 6 and half hours after play had started, how can i be sure that some of those matches hadnt already started or even finished?

please please please guys, no picks after play has started

thx ;)

Updating score, picks and board now

Frooty_Bazooty
03-14-2004, 10:19 AM
lady, aidan, nitsansh i really appreciate you guys posting the scores as well :yeah: :worship:

Frooty_Bazooty
03-14-2004, 10:36 AM
jrm u made 2 PAW12 picks, but then you left out your PAW7 pick, so your next PAW pick will be PAW15

Frooty_Bazooty
03-14-2004, 10:55 AM
PAW14: Haas bt Costa [24]

Lady
03-14-2004, 01:50 PM
PAW12: Escude over Schalcken (12)
PAW13: Haas over Costa (24)
PAW14: Hewitt over Chela (9)

Nica
03-14-2004, 03:09 PM
PAW12: Hewitt over Chela
PAW13: Haas over Costa
PAW14: Weiner over Fish

oxy
03-14-2004, 03:30 PM
PAW12:Haas over Costa

nitsansh
03-14-2004, 03:44 PM
guys this really has to stop. In my original post i set a limit of 6pm GMT for choosing your picks. this is to stop people posting picks after the matches have happened.

I had no idea of this rule.
You said rules are the same as women PAW, didn't you???
When you want to copy a product, first study the original!!
My picks last night were for matches that definitely have not started at that time! Only 3 matches in 2nd round were in progress when I made those picks, which is why I didn't pick Corretja...

nitsansh
03-14-2004, 03:46 PM
Picks for Sunday:
PAW8: Dupuis over Novak(16) [12-8]
PAW9: Soderling over Calleri(22) [11-9]
PAW10: Nadal over Massu(11) [11-9]
PAW11: Escude over Schalken(14) [12-8]

No attractive picks today!!

Mane
03-14-2004, 03:50 PM
PAW9:Schalken over Escude
PAW10:Novak over Dupuis
PAW11:Soderling over Calleri
PAW12:Haas over Costa
PAW13:Nadal over Massu
PAW14:Hewitt over Chela (do it for Kim)
PAW15:Fish over Weiner

jrm
03-14-2004, 04:40 PM
HAAS def. COSTA
SODERLING def. CALLERI
NADAL def. MASSU
SARETTA def. SPADEA

Havok
03-14-2004, 05:09 PM
guys this really has to stop. In my original post i set a limit of 6pm GMT for choosing your picks. this is to stop people posting picks after the matches have happened. for example Naldo, you posted your picks 6 and half hours after play had started, how can i be sure that some of those matches hadnt already started or even finished?

please please please guys, no picks after play has started

thx ;)

Updating score, picks and board now
I'm sorry Frooty:scared: it's coz im 5 hours behing GMT so i can't always get to my pc in time. and my pick was posted before the match had started, but my pick was crap anyways:lol: i will try to also put in the scores as well, it helps you out anyways:wavey:

Frooty_Bazooty
03-14-2004, 06:45 PM
I had no idea of this rule.
You said rules are the same as women PAW, didn't you???
When you want to copy a product, first study the original!!
My picks last night were for matches that definitely have not started at that time! Only 3 matches in 2nd round were in progress when I made those picks, which is why I didn't pick Corretja...

Yes i did say the rules were the same. But I have no idea when certain matches start and finish so its impossible for me to tell if a pick is valid
or not if it's posted while play is on. this is why in my original post i said

You may begin picking stakes. Deadline for picks is 6pm GMT (10am Indian wells time) on the morning the match is being played.

This is not set in stone but it really is preferable if the picks are in before 6pm GMT. Also, there is no need for your tone to be so hostile and standoffish, I have put a lot of work into this so I'd appreciate if you were a bit more respectful.


I'm sorry Frooty:scared: it's coz im 5 hours behing GMT so i can't always get to my pc in time. and my pick was posted before the match had started, but my pick was crap anyways:lol: i will try to also put in the scores as well, it helps you out anyways:wavey:

Yeah i just realised that if you had posted those picks after the matches had been played then you'd need a lesson in how to cheat properly :lol:

like i just said to nitsansh, the 6PM thing isnt set in stone and its only something thats preferable. but i understand that you are in a diff time zone so if u post ur picks a bit later, thats ok. just make sure it isnt after all play has finished ;)

Tom :angel:

nitsansh
03-14-2004, 09:38 PM
Yes i did say the rules were the same. But I have no idea when certain matches start and finish so its impossible for me to tell if a pick is valid
or not if it's posted while play is on. this is why in my original post i said



This is not set in stone but it really is preferable if the picks are in before 6pm GMT. Also, there is no need for your tone to be so hostile and standoffish, I have put a lot of work into this so I'd appreciate if you were a bit more respectful.


Sorry about that...
Now I'm really confused... a game like this must have clear rules...
In the original PAW game there are methods to determine the start time of matches... I used to manage PAW tournaments and have done that, so I can tell you it's doable...
It's your right as game director to make different rules, but they must be clear!
Since the standing wasn't updated since yesterday, I don't know if my picks last night were counted or not!

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-15-2004, 05:57 AM
PAW16: Arthurs over Bjorkman

Frooty_Bazooty
03-15-2004, 06:53 AM
Since the standing wasn't updated since yesterday, I don't know if my picks last night were counted or not!

they have been counted.

I am in my final year of college so i am very busy right now. so far i have spent 2 hours everyday working on this so this is the best i can do. sorry

WyveN
03-15-2004, 08:49 AM
PAW 12 Haas over Costa(23) [24-4]
PAW 13 Federer over Gonzalez (9-11)
PAW 14 Nadal over Calleri (11-9)

bgbgbg
03-15-2004, 12:11 PM
PAW7: Federer over Gonzalez [9]
PAW8: Haas over Costa [24]
PAW9: Hewitt over Chela [9]
PAW10: Blake over Gaudio [10]
PAW11: Grosjean over Sluiter [8]

Lady
03-15-2004, 01:06 PM
PAW15: Nadal over Calleri (11)

The points are not updated still. :sad: Maybe I can help with counting points? :shrug:

bgbgbg
03-15-2004, 01:36 PM
Completely unofficial ranking:
paellapan: 19 - 12:7 - 164
Lady: 11 - 9:2 - 159
Spikeyaidanm: 14 - 9:5 - 138
jrm: 17 - 9:8 - 138
Wyven: 11 - 7:4 - 133
nica: 11 - 6:5 - 131
nitsansh: 7 - 5:2 - 120
nir: 10 - 6:4 - 99
Masto22: 10 - 6:4 - 97
oxy: 11 - 7:4 - 94
Frooty_Bazooty: 12 - 6:6 - 94
Naldo: 12 - 6:6 - 85
bgbgbg: 6 - 3:3 - 81
CooCooCachoo: 18 - 8:10 - 78
William Hunt: 8 - 7:1 - 75
Mane: 12 - 8:4 - 74
Leo: 4 - 2:2 - 26
azza: 6 - 3:3 - 23 (+ the points from Paw 3 Arazi over Rochus - i don't know them)
1jackson2001: 6 - 2:4 - 23

just a quick calculation
i'm not sure everything is true :)

nitsansh
03-15-2004, 03:31 PM
Completely unofficial ranking:
nitsansh: 7 - 5:2 - 120


My score:
11P 7W 4L 143 pts

nitsansh
03-15-2004, 03:37 PM
they have been counted.

I am in my final year of college so i am very busy right now. so far i have spent 2 hours everyday working on this so this is the best i can do. sorry

I admire people who take initiative like this... but when you go into such project, you better check first if you can handle the task...

nitsansh
03-15-2004, 03:40 PM
PAW12: mirnyi(27) over Coria(4) [11-9]
PAW13: Escude over Spadea(21) [12-8]
PAW14: Haas over Costa(23) [24-4]
PAW15: Nadal over Calleri(23) [11-9]

Nica
03-15-2004, 03:42 PM
PAW15: Nadal over Calleri

oxy
03-15-2004, 04:07 PM
PAW13: Nadal over Calleri
PAW14: Hrbaty over Agassi

oxy
03-15-2004, 04:08 PM
PAW15: Labadze over Arazi

Lady
03-15-2004, 04:43 PM
And as I counted mine's I have 160 ;)

Nir
03-15-2004, 04:57 PM
PAW11: Escude over Spadea
PAW12: Nadal over Calleri
PAW13: Safin over Roddick
PAW14: Blake over Gaudio

Leo
03-15-2004, 07:21 PM
Frooty, one of my four original PAWS doesn't count (Escude/Gaudio) because it never happened.

PAW4: SAFIN over RODDICK
PAW5: NADAL over CALLERI
PAW6: ESCUDE over SPADEA
PAW7: HRBATY over AGASSI

Masto22
03-15-2004, 07:51 PM
Calleri over Nadal

Masto22
03-15-2004, 07:55 PM
PAW12: Haas d. Costa

Frooty_Bazooty
03-15-2004, 10:06 PM
I admire people who take initiative like this... but when you go into such project, you better check first if you can handle the task...

i had absolutely no idea it would take as long as it does to do this.

For now, i will only be able to update the point for the picks. On Wednesday it is St patricks day which is Irelands national holiday so i have a day off school so i will have time to update everything then. pls be patient.

thx bgbgbg for posting the leaderboard :yeah: :worship:

Tom

WyveN
03-16-2004, 02:32 AM
Thanks frooty.........i suggest in the future you limit the number of players and maybe get a partner as it does sound like a huge amount of work

bgbgbg
03-16-2004, 10:04 AM
My score:
11P 7W 4L 143 pts

sorry, i didnt count your last 4 picks

And as I counted mine's I have 160

i told you that's completely unofficial
i just tried to count it to be easier for us to follow the tournament

bgbgbg
03-16-2004, 10:21 AM
i had absolutely no idea it would take as long as it does to do this.

For now, i will only be able to update the point for the picks. On Wednesday it is St patricks day which is Irelands national holiday so i have a day off school so i will have time to update everything then. pls be patient.

thx bgbgbg for posting the leaderboard :yeah: :worship:

Tom

don't count on it ;)
i'm not sure if it's right
if you want me to do the official leaderboard you can give me all scoring points (from the first round) and tell me which picks are invalid

and please give the points for the fourth round - Frooty or someone else who knows how hey are calculated :)

bgbgbg
03-16-2004, 10:25 AM
4th round matches (without points)
(1)Roger Federer (SUI) vs (18)Mardy Fish (USA)
(WC)Tommy Haas (GER) vs (32)Juan Ignacio Chela (ARG)
(4)Guillermo Coria (ARG) vs (13)Sebastien Grosjean (FRA)
Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) vs (5)Andre Agassi (USA)
(q)Wayne Arthurs (AUS) vs (9)Tim Henman (GBR)
Nicolas Escude (FRA) vs (3)Andy Roddick (USA)
Irakli Labadze (GEO) vs (22)Agustin Calleri (ARG)
Taylor Dent (USA) vs James Blake (USA)

bgbgbg
03-16-2004, 10:39 AM
And as I counted mine's I have 160 ;)


Lady:
1. [33] 2. [16] 3. [0] 4. [8] 5. [10] 6. [9] 7. [15] 8. [0] 9. [24] 10. [] 11. [33] 12. [] 13. [] 14. [] 15. [] 16. [] 17. [] 18. [] 19. []

pick #10 is 11 pts
33+16+8+10+9+15+24+11+33=159
where is the missing point??? ;)

WyveN
03-16-2004, 10:39 AM
PAW 15: Federer over Fish
PAW 16:Haas over Chela
PAW 17:Labadze over Calleri

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-16-2004, 10:47 AM
PAW17: Haas over Chela

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-16-2004, 10:50 AM
I really hope someone can update the standing after each day's play, it has been a reasonable tournament for me so far.

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-16-2004, 10:51 AM
Could you at least post the fourth round scoring points?

bgbgbg
03-16-2004, 11:42 AM
another UNOFFICIAL standing
(i tried to correct some mistakes, but i'm still not sure that everything is right)
i didn't count last 2 Masto22's picks from yesterday - too late

Lady:.....................15....11-4.....195
nitsansh:.................15.....9-6.....179
Wyven:...................14.....9-5.....177
Spikeyaidanm:..........16....11-5.....175
paellapan:................19....12-7.....164
jrm:........................18....10-8.....162
nica:.......................15.....7-8.....155
bgbgbg:...................11.....7-4.....132
oxy:........................15.....9-6.....130
Frooty_Bazooty:........14.....8-6.....129
nir:.........................14.....8-6.....121
Mane:......................14.....9-5......98
Masto22:..................10.....6-4......97
CooCooCachoo:.........19.....9-10.....86
Naldo:......................12.....6-6......85
William Hunt:...............8.....7-1......75
azza:.........................6.....3-3......33
Leo:..........................7.....2-5......28
1jackson2001:.............6.....2-4......23

bgbgbg
03-16-2004, 11:45 AM
PAW12: Haas over Chela
PAW13: Grosjean over Coria
PAW14: Roddick over Escude

Mane
03-16-2004, 12:18 PM
PAW15:Haas over Chela
PAW16:Coria over Grosjean
PAW17:Escude over Roddick

Lady
03-16-2004, 12:25 PM
When I counted mine's as 160, I counted PAW12 already as 12 points, and missed one as 11.
So now I have 195, that's right, Thank you!! :)

Lady
03-16-2004, 12:27 PM
PAW16: Haas over Chela

oxy
03-16-2004, 02:15 PM
PAW16: Haas over Chela
PAW17: Grosjean over Coria

nitsansh
03-16-2004, 02:15 PM
nitsansh:.................15.....9-6.....177

According to my calculation, the score is 179.

Here is the summary:
PAW1: Haas....... over Enqvist....... [33-3]+
PAW2: Sluiter.... over Zabaleta...... [14-6]+
PAW3: Canas...... over Volandri...... [16-6]+
PAW4: Haas....... over Srichaphan(10) [33-3]+
PAW5: Johansson.. over Hewitt(8)..... [33-3]-
PAW6: Arthurs.... over Schuettler(6). [24-4]+
PAW7: Canas...... over Costa(23)..... [15-5]-
PAW8: Dupuis..... over Novak(16)..... [12-8]-
PAW9: Soderling.. over Calleri(22)... [11-9]-
PAW10: Nadal..... over Massu(11)..... [11-9]+
PAW11: Escude.... over Schalken(14).. [12-8]+
PAW12: Mirnyi(27) over Coria(4)...... [11-9]-
PAW13: Escude.... over Spadea(21).... [12-8]+
PAW14: Haas...... over Costa(23)..... [24-4]+
PAW15: Nadal..... over Calleri(23)... [11-9]-
15P 9W 6L 179 pts

nitsansh
03-16-2004, 02:31 PM
PAW16: Haas over Chela

It's hard enough to pick the winners, it's like shooting in complete darkness when there are no scores!!
The official standing can wait for tommorrow, but the scores have to be posted BEFORE tonight's matches!

nitsansh
03-16-2004, 02:39 PM
4th round matches (without points)
(1)Roger Federer (SUI) vs (18)Mardy Fish (USA)
(WC)Tommy Haas (GER) vs (32)Juan Ignacio Chela (ARG)
(4)Guillermo Coria (ARG) vs (13)Sebastien Grosjean (FRA)
Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) vs (5)Andre Agassi (USA)
(q)Wayne Arthurs (AUS) vs (9)Tim Henman (GBR)
Nicolas Escude (FRA) vs (3)Andy Roddick (USA)
Irakli Labadze (GEO) vs (22)Agustin Calleri (ARG)
Taylor Dent (USA) vs James Blake (USA)

Only top 4 matches are on Tuesday. The bottom half apparently on Wednesday.

Leo
03-16-2004, 02:54 PM
PAW8: HAAS over CHELA
PAW9: GROSJEAN over CORIA

Frooty_Bazooty
03-16-2004, 05:05 PM
PAW16: Haas over Chela

It's hard enough to pick the winners, it's like shooting in complete darkness when there are no scores!!
The official standing can wait for tommorrow, but the scores have to be posted BEFORE tonight's matches!

im sick of you whining nitsansh, if you dont like the way i run this then fuck off. You havent done a single thing to help except complain and be rude. I havent been to bed before 2am at all this week and i have to be up at 7am and im not in the mood for your bullshit so you really can go fuck yourself

Frooty_Bazooty
03-16-2004, 05:09 PM
i managed to get out of college early so i have some time now to do the updates.

Nir
03-16-2004, 05:15 PM
PAW15: Haas over Chela

Frooty_Bazooty
03-16-2004, 05:41 PM
wyven, u made 2 paw12 so Labadze over Calleri is your 18th PAW.

bgbgbg
03-16-2004, 06:57 PM
According to my calculation, the score is 179.
15P 9W 6L 179 pts

i'm sorry
corrected the mistake
but i told you i just tried to calculate it in order to follow the standing each day :)

Masto22
03-16-2004, 07:06 PM
Haas d. Chela
Calleri d. Labadze
Dent d. Blake

Masto22
03-16-2004, 07:27 PM
Why you didnīt count my Calleri points vs Nadal???

bgbgbg
03-16-2004, 07:40 PM
Why you didnīt count my Calleri points vs Nadal???

in post #1 is said:

"You may begin picking stakes. Deadline for picks is 6pm GMT (10am Indian wells time) on the morning the match is being played. PAWs placed after this will not be counted."

it's the same today
i know your 3 matches started after your post in 12.06pm Indian Wells time but Frooty is the organizer and he will decide if they are valid

bgbgbg
03-16-2004, 07:46 PM
Frooty, i've corrected some mistakes in my calculations but they are still differences. Let us try to correct them.

My standing:
Lady:.....................15....11-4.....195
nitsansh:.................15.....9-6.....179
Wyven:...................14.....9-5.....177
Spikeyaidanm:..........16....11-5.....175
paellapan:................19....12-7.....164
jrm:........................18....10-8.....162
nica:.......................15.....7-8.....155
bgbgbg:...................11.....7-4.....132
oxy:........................15.....9-6.....130
Frooty_Bazooty:........14.....8-6.....129
nir:.........................14.....8-6.....121
Mane:......................14.....9-5......98
Masto22:..................10.....6-4......97
CooCooCachoo:.........19.....9-10.....86
Naldo:......................12.....6-6......85
William Hunt:...............8.....7-1......75
azza:.........................6.....3-3......33
Leo:..........................7.....2-5......28
1jackson2001:.............6.....2-4......23

Your PAW Leader board:
Name.......................................... P W L Pts
Spikeyaidanm................................10 / 7 / 3 / 117
CooCooCachoo..............................10/ 4 / 6 / 34
Lady............................................19 / 15 / 4 / 234
Mane...........................................15 / 10 / 5 / 98
Frooty_Bazooty.............................14 / 8 / 6 / 129
paellapan.....................................19 / 12 / 7 / 164
nitsansh.......................................15 / 9 / 6 / 179
Naldo..........................................12 / 6 / 6 / 85
1jackson2001...............................6 / 2 / 4 / 23
oxy............................................15 / 9 / 6 / 130
William Hunt.................................8 / 7 / 1 / 75
jrm.............................................8 / 5 / 3 /
nica............................................15 / 7 / 8 / 155
nir..............................................1 3 / 8 / 6 / 121
bgbgbg........................................11 / 7 / 4 / 132
Leo.............................................7 / 2 / 5 / 28
azza...........................................6 / 3 / 3 / 33
Masto22......................................10 / 6 / 4 / 97
Wyven........................................14 / 9 / 5 / 177


CooCooCachoo - you just didn't count all her/his points + last 2 picks imo

Mane - picked 14 matches, pick # 7 doesn't count (Escude over Gaudio - didn't play)

jrm - I think you just didn't calculate it + her/his last 4 picks in post # 115

Spikeyaidanm - I think you just didn't calculate all her/his picks

Lady - where are her/his picks 16-19??? i'm not sure but it seems like you mixed Lady with jrm's picks in post # 115

nir - 14/8/6 not 13/8/6

bgbgbg
03-16-2004, 07:48 PM
i'm just trying to help you, i hope you won't get angry ;)

William Hunt
03-16-2004, 08:14 PM
Can someone please post the points / odds for the matches

Lady
03-16-2004, 08:38 PM
Ok, since only now I can see the scoring points, I'll put one more PAW!

PAW17: Federer over Fish

Masto22
03-16-2004, 08:45 PM
in post #1 is said:

"You may begin picking stakes. Deadline for picks is 6pm GMT (10am Indian wells time) on the morning the match is being played. PAWs placed after this will not be counted."

it's the same today
i know your 3 matches started after your post in 12.06pm Indian Wells time but Frooty is the organizer and he will decide if they are valid

It is not fair... We are in the internet and it is very easy if we know that I picked Calleri before the match starts...
And last night the matches and their points arenīt ready so I have to be here between 12.00 at 3.00 PM GMT or something like that

William Hunt
03-16-2004, 10:32 PM
PAW 9 FEDERER over FISH
PAW 10 HENMAN over ARTHURS
PAW 11 LABADZE over CALLERI
PAW 12 DENT over BLAKE
PAW 13 AGASSI over YOUZHNY

Havok
03-17-2004, 12:58 AM
PAW 13:Arthurs over Henman
PAW 14:Blake over Dent
PAW 15: Labadze over Calleri

Masto22
03-17-2004, 02:16 AM
So,
Calleri
Dent
Arthurs
Escude
My picks for TOMORROW!!! :-)))))

Leo
03-17-2004, 04:41 AM
PAW 10: HENMAN over ARTHURS
PAW 11: LABADZE over CALLERI
PAW 12: DENT over BLAKE
PAW13: RODDICK over ESCUDE

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-17-2004, 05:29 AM
So,
Calleri
Dent
Arthurs
Escude
My picks for TOMORROW!!! :-)))))

These should be invalid... but it's up to Frooty

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-17-2004, 05:33 AM
PAW18: Agassi over Coria

nitsansh
03-17-2004, 07:49 AM
PAW17: Labadze over Calleri(22) [13-7]

jrm
03-17-2004, 09:28 AM
PAW18: DENT def. BLAKE

Lady
03-17-2004, 10:34 AM
PAW 9 FEDERER over FISH
PAW 10 HENMAN over ARTHURS
PAW 11 LABADZE over CALLERI
PAW 12 DENT over BLAKE
PAW 13 AGASSI over YOUZHNY

I'm sorry to tell this :o But Federer vs Fish match was in the middle when you posted :o

Lady
03-17-2004, 10:47 AM
i'm just trying to help you, i hope you won't get angry ;)

I checked too, and you're right with your calculations! :clap2:

I definitely didn't oick 19 matches yet! ;)

Frooty_Bazooty
03-17-2004, 11:31 AM
PAW16: LABADZE over Calleri [13]

WyveN
03-17-2004, 11:56 AM
PAW 19(am I upto this?): Agassi over Coria

Masto22
03-17-2004, 03:06 PM
These should be invalid... but it's up to Frooty


INVALID!!!???
If I have to explain:

Calleri d. Labadze
Dent d. Blake
Arthurs d. Henman
Escude d. Roddick

Ballbuster
03-17-2004, 04:05 PM
Who agrees with me that Guillermo Coria is the only real threat to the year end number one ranking other than Federer

Lady
03-17-2004, 04:44 PM
PAW18: Labadze over Calleri (13)

nitsansh
03-17-2004, 07:03 PM
Labadze just won.
My score now 192 pts from 17 picks.

bgbgbg
03-17-2004, 07:21 PM
Another UNOFFICIAL standings
after day 5 (before today's matches)

1. Lady:.....................17....12-5.....204
2. Wyven:..................17....11-6.....186
3. nitsansh:................16.....9-7.....179
4. Spikeyaidanm:.........17....11-6.....175
5. paellapan:..............19....12-7.....164
6. jrm:......................18....10-8.....162
7. nica:.....................15.....7-8.....155
8. bgbgbg:.................13.....7-5.....132
9. oxy:......................17.....9-8.....130
10. Frooty_Bazooty:.....14.....8-6.....129
11. nir:.......................15.....8-7.....121
12. Mane:...................16....10-6.....108
13. Masto22:...............11.....6-5.......97
14. CooCooCachoo:......19.....9-10......86
15. Naldo:...................12.....6-6.......85
16. William Hunt:............9.....8-1.......83 *
17. azza:......................6.....3-3.......33
18. Leo:.......................9.....2-7.......28
19. 1jackson2001:..........6.....2-4.......23

* didn't count PAW9: Federer over Fish

bgbgbg
03-17-2004, 07:37 PM
PAW15: Federer over Chela [9]

nitsansh
03-17-2004, 07:43 PM
Lady also picked Labadze so she has 217 pts and 1 pick remaining.

Too early to call it officially but I don't think anyone can beat her!

Havok
03-17-2004, 10:40 PM
INVALID!!!???
If I have to explain:

Calleri d. Labadze
Dent d. Blake
Arthurs d. Henman
Escude d. Roddick
yes you must explain your picks. you have to state the winner and the loser, not just one or the other, but you fixed them now so they might be accepted by Frooty

armaniman
03-17-2004, 10:57 PM
well 2 are wrong so far and hopefully you got henman pick wrong too hehe

armaniman
03-17-2004, 11:02 PM
Tim breaks !!! first game

armaniman
03-17-2004, 11:04 PM
2-0 henman

armaniman
03-17-2004, 11:07 PM
2-1*

Sjengster
03-17-2004, 11:10 PM
armaniman, did you know Arthurs was up 40-0 on serve in that first game and Henman then won nine points in a row? Not a bad way to start.

Yonge
03-17-2004, 11:16 PM
2 breaks!!!!

Masto22
03-18-2004, 01:02 AM
Chela d. Federer
Coria d. Agassi

WyveN
03-18-2004, 09:35 AM
do I have any picks left?

William Hunt
03-18-2004, 11:31 AM
PAW 10 FEDERER over CHELA
PAW 11 AGASSI over CORIA

Lady
03-18-2004, 11:46 AM
Lady also picked Labadze so she has 217 pts and 1 pick remaining.

Too early to call it officially but I don't think anyone can beat her!

Hopefully you're right ;) :drool:

Lady
03-18-2004, 11:52 AM
PAW19: Federer over Chela

bgbgbg
03-18-2004, 01:25 PM
PAW16: Blake over Labadze

Pironkov
03-18-2004, 01:59 PM
:eek:

jrm
03-18-2004, 02:04 PM
What is scoring table based on? I saw the odds Federer-Chela (9-11) and Labadze-Calleri (13-7). Wouldn't it be more logical to get more points for beating a no.1 in the world?

Leo
03-18-2004, 10:48 PM
PAW14: LABADZE over BLAKE
PAW15: HENMAN over RODDICK

nitsansh
03-19-2004, 12:18 AM
Lady gets another win and 9 pts and has a total of 226 for the tournament. That surely can't be beaten!

CooCooCachoo
03-19-2004, 08:07 AM
Wow, I sucked ;)

Mane
03-19-2004, 10:49 AM
PAW16:Federer over Fish
PAW17:Agassi over Coria

bgbgbg
03-19-2004, 12:57 PM
PAW16:Federer over Fish
PAW17:Agassi over Coria

these picks today????????????????????

bgbgbg
03-19-2004, 01:13 PM
UNOFFICIAL standings (after day 7):

1. Lady:..................19....14-5.....226
2. Wyven:...............19....13-6.....209
3. nitsansh:.............17....10-7.....192
4. Spikeyaidanm:......18....12-6.....185
5. paellapan:............19....12-7.....164
6. jrm:....................19....10-9.....162
7. nica:...................15.....7-8.....155
8. bgbgbg:...............15.....9-5.....148
9. Frooty_Bazooty:....15.....9-6.....142
10. oxy:..................17.....9-8......130
11. nir:...................15.....8-7......121
12. William Hunt:......14....12-2......120
13. Naldo:...............15.....8-7......108
14. Mane:...............17....10-7......108
15. Masto22:...........17.....6-11......97
16. CooCooCachoo:...19.....9-10......86
17. Leo:..................13.....5-8........53
18. azza:..................6.....3-3........33
19. 1jackson2001:......6.....2-4........23

bgbgbg
03-19-2004, 01:14 PM
where are the points for today's matches:
Henman vs Roddick
Labadze vs Blake
????????????????????????????????????????

Masto22
03-19-2004, 02:03 PM
Deadline for today is coming and what about the points?

nitsansh
03-19-2004, 02:10 PM
Matches today don't start until 2PM local time (10PM GMT).

bgbgbg
03-19-2004, 06:32 PM
nitsansh, you or Spikey should give the points for all remaining matches. its obvious Frooty wont do that and you have the experience from PAW WTA. lets finish that PAW at least :) i can make the standings, but dont know the formula for the points

nitsansh
03-19-2004, 08:00 PM
I don't know what formula, if any, Frooty used to calculate the points for this game. It doesn't have any resemblence to the formula being used in women PAW!

nitsansh
03-19-2004, 08:02 PM
Anyway, I had no intention to pick a winner tonight...

Masto22
03-19-2004, 08:05 PM
Incredible! When Calleri d. Nadal was invalid because it was picked two hours before the match but after the sesion starts... Now, there arenīt any information so no pickes can be made... Official deadline has closed

Nir
03-19-2004, 08:17 PM
Well I will try to help and I will do do the scoring points based on my experience in paw wta (I was a manger in 4 or 5 tournaments)
If you want to except it than ok and if not just say so.

QF:
Roddick vs. Henman.............(8-12)
Labadze vs. Blake............... (14-7)

SF:
Agassi vs. Federer..............(11-9)

Nir
03-19-2004, 08:19 PM
PAW16: Roddick over Henman
PAW17: Blake over Labadze

Nir
03-19-2004, 08:55 PM
BTW Frooty if you dont have time to do this then tell me and I could run Miami but only if you want me too :)

Frooty_Bazooty
03-19-2004, 09:48 PM
Sorry i havent been around for a while, I have my oral exam on Monday and French is my most important subject cos i want to live there when im older so i have been studying my ass off

guys, the way to calculate points is really really simple. Due to popular demand, i based the points on entry ranking. so if 2 players are within 13 places then the points will be [10-10]. the further away the players become the greater the difference in points there will be. if 23rd ranked player plays 44th the points will be [9-11]. If it is 5th vs 103rd in the world then the points would be much further apart [5-15]. You can roughly work out the points for every match yourself

the reason i chose this method is partly because you guys wanted a method based on rankings but also because it allows you to roughly calculate the points for each match yourself. You dont need me to hold your hand for everything.

Nir, i would love some help with Miami :yeah: Maybe we could make a joint account that can be used for all PAW or maybe i could give you the password for this account so that we can both work on it or something?

Tom

Nir
03-19-2004, 09:56 PM
Sorry i havent been around for a while, I have my oral exam on Monday and French is my most important subject cos i want to live there when im older so i have been studying my ass off

guys, the way to calculate points is really really simple. Due to popular demand, i based the points on entry ranking. so if 2 players are within 13 places then the points will be [10-10]. the further away the players become the greater the difference in points there will be. if 23rd ranked player plays 44th the points will be [9-11]. If it is 5th vs 103rd in the world then the points would be much further apart [5-15]. You can roughly work out the points for every match yourself

the reason i chose this method is partly because you guys wanted a method based on rankings but also because it allows you to roughly calculate the points for each match yourself. You dont need me to hold your hand for everything.

Nir, i would love some help with Miami :yeah: Maybe we could make a joint account that can be used for all PAW or maybe i could give you the password for this account so that we can both work on it or something?

Tom

Well I could do the league table with all the calculations and you could do the scoring points or something like that :)
BTW in paw wta the scoring points are different like if #5 plays #103 then I think that is should be (24-4) or something like that

nitsansh
03-19-2004, 10:10 PM
guys, the way to calculate points is really really simple. Due to popular demand, i based the points on entry ranking. so if 2 players are within 13 places then the points will be [10-10]. the further away the players become the greater the difference in points there will be. if 23rd ranked player plays 44th the points will be [9-11]. If it is 5th vs 103rd in the world then the points would be much further apart [5-15]. You can roughly work out the points for every match yourself

Roughly isn't good enough for me. It makes a difference whether the score is 10-10 or 11-9 or 12-8 for a given match.

nitsansh
03-19-2004, 10:16 PM
Nir
The formula used in women PAW was just revealed in PAW Indian Wells...

Masto22
03-20-2004, 03:00 AM
Federer over Agassi
Henman over Blake
Henman over Federer

oxy
03-20-2004, 10:11 AM
PAW18: Federer over Agassi
PAW19: Henman over Labadze

Frooty_Bazooty
03-20-2004, 11:06 AM
Roughly isn't good enough for me. It makes a difference whether the score is 10-10 or 11-9 or 12-8 for a given match.

what makes you think a give a damn about whats good enough for you, nitsansh?

This may suprise you but 1 or 2 points isnt going to be the end of the world, THIS IS A GAME! its not the world cup!

Frooty_Bazooty
03-20-2004, 11:09 AM
PAW17: Federer over Agassi
PAW18: Henman over Labadze

WyveN
03-20-2004, 11:12 AM
i can help out with Miami as well

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-20-2004, 11:33 AM
PAW19: Agassi over Federer

Frooty, if you need any help I really would be more than happy to run a few tournaments, I have a system which runs pretty time efficiently :) :wavey:

bgbgbg
03-20-2004, 11:47 AM
PAW17: Federer over Agassi (10)
PAW18: Henman over Labadze (7)

Frooty_Bazooty
03-20-2004, 11:53 AM
whats the best way to do it? do you think we should make a common account for the 3 of us or should i give you the password to my account so that you can edit points and stuff or should we just stick to our three separate accounts?

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-20-2004, 12:04 PM
Well PAW in WTA is run with different accounts and that works fine, but thats up to you mate :wavey:

nitsansh
03-20-2004, 02:56 PM
Which points are being used? Nir's points or Frooty's points?

nitsansh
03-20-2004, 03:00 PM
PAW18: Federer(1) over Agassi(5) [10-10] (Frooty's points)

Nir
03-20-2004, 03:03 PM
PAW18: Agassi over Federer :angel:

bgbgbg
03-20-2004, 05:28 PM
i will not be here tomorrow
may i post it so:
PAW19: Federer/Agassi over Henman/Labadze
???
thx

bgbgbg
03-20-2004, 05:37 PM
Federer over Agassi
Henman over Blake
Henman over Federer

Henman over Blake is invalid - no such match
and these are picks #18-20, so
Henman over Federer should get
PAW19: Henman/Labadze over Federer/Agassi
but it's up to Frooty

bgbgbg
03-20-2004, 05:43 PM
UNOFFICIAL standings (after day 8):

1. Lady:..................19....14-5......226
2. Wyven:...............19....13-6......209
3. nitsansh:.............17....10-7......192
4. Spikeyaidanm:......18....12-6......185
5. paellapan:............19....12-7......164
6. jrm:....................19....10-9......162
7. nica:...................15.....7-8......155
8. bgbgbg:..............16......9-7......148
9. Frooty_Bazooty:...15......9-6......142
10. oxy:..................18......9-8......130
11. nir:...................17......8-9......121
12. William Hunt:......14.....12-2......120
13. Naldo:...............15......8-7......108
14. Mane:...............17.....10-7......108
15. Masto22:...........19......6-11......97
16. CooCooCachoo:..19......9-10......86
17. Leo:.................15......7-8........75
18. azza:.................6......3-3........33
19. 1jackson2001:.....6......2-4........23

Masto22
03-20-2004, 05:57 PM
Henman over Blake is invalid - no such match
and these are picks #18-20, so
Henman over Federer should get
PAW19: Henman/Labadze over Federer/Agassi
but it's up to Frooty

Excuse me!!!! :worship:

Federer d. Agassi
Henman d. Labadze

Masto22
03-20-2004, 05:59 PM
UNOFFICIAL standings (after day 8):


15. Masto22:...........19......6-11......97


6 wins - 11 lost = 17 played ;)

0-10 in a row!!! :sad:

Frooty_Bazooty
03-20-2004, 06:16 PM
my points are being used

Nir
03-20-2004, 06:16 PM
There is a new commitment thread so check it out in the paw atp forum and commit ;) :D

nitsansh
03-20-2004, 11:14 PM
PAW19: Federer over Henman

Havok
03-21-2004, 04:20 AM
PAW 16: Henman over Federer

Nir
03-21-2004, 05:48 PM
PAW19: Federer over Henman

William Hunt
03-21-2004, 07:56 PM
FINAL PAW : FEDERER over HENMAN

William Hunt
03-21-2004, 07:57 PM
FINAL PAW : FEDERER over HENMAN

Spikey_Todd Reid_#1Fan
03-21-2004, 11:20 PM
Congrats Lady

1st in Men's and 3rd in the Women's PAW is some achievement, well done :) :) :)

Lady
03-22-2004, 01:59 PM
Congrats Lady

1st in Men's and 3rd in the Women's PAW is some achievement, well done :) :) :)

Thank you!! :kiss:

It's been amazing 2 weeks for me! Almost all picks were going my way! :banana:

Nir
03-22-2004, 07:34 PM
Final Indian Wells League Table 2004
1.lady................. 19......... 14......... 5.......... 226
2.nitsansh........... 19......... 12......... 7.......... 212
3.WyveN............. 19......... 13......... 6.......... 209
4.SpikeyAidanm.... 19......... 12......... 7.......... 185
5.bgbgbg............ 19......... 12......... 7.......... 175
6.paellapan.......... 19......... 12......... 7.......... 164
7.jrm.................. 19......... 10......... 9........... 162
8.Frooty_Bazooty.. 17......... 11......... 6........... 159
9.nica................. 15......... 7........... 8........... 155
10.oxy................ 19.........11..........8...........147
11.nir.................. 19......... 9........... 10......... 131
12.William Hunt......15.........13......... 2........... 130
13.Masto22.......... 19......... 8........... 11......... 123
14.Naldo............. 16......... 8........... 8........... 108
...Mane............... 17......... 10......... 7........... 108
16.CooCooCachoo. 19......... 9........... 10......... 86
17.Leo............... 15......... 7.......... 8........... 75
18.azza.............. 6........... 3........... 3........... 33
19.1jackson2001.. 6........... 2........... 4........... 23

Masto22
03-22-2004, 11:03 PM
I am 12th with 123 points