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MTF US Political Poll: Democrats vs Republicans in the race for Congress

Pfloyd
11-06-2006, 07:01 PM
Who do you think will will the majority in congress?

Will Democrats win both House and Senate, only the house, or none?

What do you think?

dorkino
11-06-2006, 07:13 PM
Done.

NATAS81
11-06-2006, 07:20 PM
Dem H&S. Time for a change.

dorkino
11-06-2006, 07:53 PM
Posted by Natas81
Dem H&Sen. Time for Change

'll it be a change??

Scotso
11-06-2006, 08:49 PM
It would be a slight change, yes.

Right now it appears that the Democrats will win both the House and the Senate, and I'm really hoping they do.

More important for me, though, is that the "marriage amendment" is defeated here.

savesthedizzle
11-07-2006, 02:08 AM
I have a bad feeling that New Jersey is going to mess everything up for the Senate. But Stender WILL defeat Ferguson for NJ 7th Congress. That I have faith in :D

Scotso
11-07-2006, 03:19 AM
The pundits I read are all convinced Menendez will win and Stender will lose. :p

savesthedizzle
11-07-2006, 03:23 AM
The pundits I read are all convinced Menendez will win and Stender will lose. :p

If Stender loses, I will cry. The other day I went to a Ferguson rally, met up with 15 other Democrats and Ferguson's bus didn't stop, he just drove by. He had 2 supporters there vs. 15 Democrats. We scared him off. :bounce: Stender can do it. She has 7 newspaper endorsements.. he has 1.. he hasn't moved mercury out of my town that he claims he has. He must go Scott, he really must. He wants to make abortion illegal, he is anti stem cell research. The only reason NJ keeps a Republican around is because my district is overwhelmingly well-off and they are fiscally conservative, but socially NJ is liberal. :shrug: It blows.

Menendez has been gaining the last few days. It helps he had Bill around ;) But I don't know... I am not confident with Menendez yet.

Scotso
11-07-2006, 03:26 AM
Menendez will win... he's a weak candidate but it's New Jersey and the whole country isn't too happy with Republicans right now. That equals Menendez winning.

Pretty much control of the Senate seems to rest with my state... Webb and Allen are neck and neck. Hopefully Virginia will kick out Allen and give the Democrats control. :worship:

And hopefully my fellow Virginians see reason and this marriage amendment crap fails. We're very close to defeating it... it would be great if we were the first state where such a thing failed.

One thing that's very gratifying, though, is that Sen. Santorum of Pennsylvania is pretty much certain to lose his reelection race... and he's the biggest anti-gay idiot in Congress. :rocker2:

Scotso
11-07-2006, 03:29 AM
The estimates of Democratic wins are being kind of conservative... some pundits think that the tide will see a lot of upsets that no one predicted and that the "Democratic wave" might claim many more seats than predicted... hopefully Stender will be one of those. ;)

Too bad I have no hope for Al Weed (D) against our Republican tool, Goode. Unfortunately a pro-gay marriage liberal Democrat like Weed just has no chance in a conservative district like mine. He'll be lucky to get 30%, and that's only because people are pissed at Republicans lately. :p

savesthedizzle
11-07-2006, 03:31 AM
Menendez will win... he's a weak candidate but it's New Jersey and the whole country isn't too happy with Republicans right now. That equals Menendez winning.

Pretty much control of the Senate seems to rest with my state... Webb and Allen are neck and neck. Hopefully Virginia will kick out Allen and give the Democrats control. :worship:

And hopefully my fellow Virginians see reason and this marriage amendment crap fails. We're very close to defeating it... it would be great if we were the first state where such a thing failed.

One thing that's very gratifying, though, is that Sen. Santorum of Pennsylvania is pretty much certain to lose his reelection race... and he's the biggest anti-gay idiot in Congress. :rocker2:


Menendez is incredibly weak. There is really so little between him and Kean. He is going to win mainly because no one can really see much difference, since they are both unappealing, so we'll vote along party lines... and then, as you said... it's New Jersey ;)

savesthedizzle
11-07-2006, 03:33 AM
The estimates of Democratic wins are being kind of conservative... some pundits think that the tide will see a lot of upsets that no one predicted and that the "Democratic wave" might claim many more seats than predicted... hopefully Stender will be one of those. ;)

Too bad I have no hope for Al Weed (D) against our Republican tool, Goode. Unfortunately a pro-gay marriage liberal Democrat like Weed just has no chance in a conservative district like mine. He'll be lucky to get 30%, and that's only because people are pissed at Republicans lately. :p

http://www.dumpmike.com/ There are pics there of Mike's bus not stopping. What a coward. :lol: I really really hope she is. She's the best anti-Ferguson candidate we've had. :( I wish my friend's dad hadn't dropped out of the race, he would have been super and I'd be working my ass off for his campaign right now. :lol:

Pfloyd
11-07-2006, 03:36 AM
I really hope that Harold Ford Jr. can pull the upset in tennessee, the man is a genius and a likeable guy.

Scotso
11-07-2006, 03:37 AM
I wish people would really work to get rid of Goode... but people here love him, I just don't get it. He hasn't done ANYTHING for our district. People here just get attached to someone and vote them into office year after year after year. We've had Goode forever... and before that, we had his father forever. Meh.

Scotso
11-07-2006, 03:39 AM
I really hope that Harold Ford Jr. can pull the upset in tennessee, the man is a genius and a likeable guy.

I like him too, and I think were he a bit more liberal he would make a very good national candidate... being a very handsome man really helps in politics... but unfortunately Crocker has been gaining a lot of ground lately and looks likely to win. Crocker is a great candidate... a moderate Republican who has no ties to the corrupt GOP people.

savesthedizzle
11-07-2006, 03:39 AM
I wish people would really work to get rid of Goode... but people here love him, I just don't get it. He hasn't done ANYTHING for our district. People here just get attached to someone and vote them into office year after year after year. We've had Goode forever... and before that, we had his father forever. Meh.

We've been stuck with crappy Mike Ferguson for the last 6 years. *sigh* If we are stuck with him again for another 2 I should just run myself. :tape:

Scotso
11-07-2006, 03:39 AM
http://www.dumpmike.com/ There are pics there of Mike's bus not stopping. What a coward. :lol: I really really hope she is. She's the best anti-Ferguson candidate we've had. :( I wish my friend's dad hadn't dropped out of the race, he would have been super and I'd be working my ass off for his campaign right now. :lol:

I donated $20 to Stender a few weeks ago when you were talking about her. ;)

savesthedizzle
11-07-2006, 03:40 AM
I really hope that Harold Ford Jr. can pull the upset in tennessee, the man is a genius and a likeable guy.

I like him as well, we'll see how that turns out ;)

I'll be up all night tomorrow following the returns, just like I do every election night :)

Scotso
11-07-2006, 03:41 AM
I'm looking at the pictures on that site. God, it makes me really mad when people put campaign signs in the hands of little kids. They don't know anything about politics, leave them out of it. :rolleyes:

Pfloyd
11-07-2006, 03:42 AM
I like him as well, we'll see how that turns out ;)

I'll be up all night tomorrow following the returns, just like I do every election night :)

Me too. Hope it all turns out for the best. :)

savesthedizzle
11-07-2006, 03:42 AM
I donated $20 to Stender a few weeks ago when you were talking about her. ;)

Yay! I donated another $25 to her yesterday.

At that Ferguson rally I met my local Democrat people Gaffney and Mastondrea, and they're awesome. I love that they were there ready to confront Ferguson. :lol: Karen Gaffney was all over the place taking the pictures of us with our signs waiting for his bus (and watching it drive away...) :lol:

Scotso
11-07-2006, 03:42 AM
I like him as well, we'll see how that turns out ;)

I'll be up all night tomorrow following the returns, just like I do every election night :)

I'll be here, too, so we can chat about it. ;)

I'll either be really happy on Wednesday or really depressed. In 2004 after Kerry lost, I didn't get out of bed for two days. I just couldn't believe that people would actually reelect Bush. But eventually I decided I had to get up and carry on. :p

savesthedizzle
11-07-2006, 03:43 AM
I'm looking at the pictures on that site. God, it makes me really mad when people put campaign signs in the hands of little kids. They don't know anything about politics, leave them out of it. :rolleyes:

I'm in some of them :p It's like Where's Waldo! :p

*edit* I'm of course not in the ones of the morons who give young kids signs and let them stand next to a 6 lane highway

savesthedizzle
11-07-2006, 03:45 AM
I'll be here, too, so we can chat about it. ;)

I'll either be really happy on Wednesday or really depressed. In 2004 after Kerry lost, I didn't get out of bed for two days. I just couldn't believe that people would actually reelect Bush. But eventually I decided I had to get up and carry on. :p


My roommate was so pissed with me in 2004. :lol: She was like "OMG STOP MOPING!" She was a Bush fan then... even she's not anymore :p

Scotso
11-07-2006, 03:48 AM
Everyone at school knew why I wasn't there, it was something no one talked about when I finally came back, lol. The teachers didn't even ask why I was out or for an explanation. Everyone knew why I was so upset. :p lol.

Scotso
11-07-2006, 03:49 AM
Oh course the fact that I went to school on election day in 2004 covered from head to toe in Kerry and Al Weed stickers really pointed out what I wanted to occur. :p

savesthedizzle
11-07-2006, 03:50 AM
Everyone at school knew why I wasn't there, it was something no one talked about when I finally came back, lol. The teachers didn't even ask why I was out or for an explanation. Everyone knew why I was so upset. :p lol.

Awww :hug: Well hopefully I will see you out and about on Wednesday :) I happen to have off on Wednesday so I can mope all day :lol:

Scotso
11-07-2006, 03:53 AM
I have another interview Wednesday :tape:

But I'm positive that Wednesday will be a very good day!

Scotso
11-07-2006, 03:53 AM
I want the Democrats to win only if it means that Bush no longer gets whatever he wants.

MisterQ
11-07-2006, 03:59 AM
Everyone at school knew why I wasn't there, it was something no one talked about when I finally came back, lol. The teachers didn't even ask why I was out or for an explanation. Everyone knew why I was so upset. :p lol.

I remember being on the subway that morning, and it was dead silent. A very odd atmosphere. :sad:

Because of that day, I'm not letting myself get too optimistic too soon this time :lol: But I'm hoping for good results. :cool:

Scotso
11-07-2006, 04:00 AM
I remember being on the subway that morning, and it was dead silent. A very odd atmosphere. :sad:

Because of that day, I'm not letting myself get too optimistic too soon this time :lol: But I'm hoping for good results. :cool:

It poured down rain here that day. It's like the heavens were crying. :p

savesthedizzle
11-07-2006, 04:03 AM
I'm pretty sure I skipped class that day...


... but when didn't I skip class? :angel: :lol:

MisterQ
11-07-2006, 04:04 AM
It poured down rain here that day. It's like the heavens were crying. :p



That's so melodramatic. :rolls:

And yet I totally know what you mean. :sad: :rain:

That was the first election I actively volunteered for, so it seemed more personal.

Scotso
11-07-2006, 04:23 PM
I voted :rocker2:

MisterQ
11-07-2006, 06:49 PM
I voted :rocker2:

Me too!

There was no line whatsoever. Convenient for me, but maybe not a great sign in terms of turnout. :lol:

zicofirol
11-07-2006, 07:21 PM
I think the republicans will maintain majority but lose some seats.

I think when it comes to the vote itself people are just afraid of the democrats and their policies. I know ive been thinking I hope the rep. lost just because they are hypocrites and we need a change, but then I think abotu the democrats and it gets scary to think what they might do. It might be 1970's all over again. Especially since the USA is at a crossroads, IMO, where I think they will definately decide to go the "socialist" way or stay the same mixed but "better than the alternative" way. Besides both parties are heading towards a more socialist government but the democrats are just doing it faster. I cant imagine how it would be if we where ensalved to a national health care system, god knows if it turns out anything like the education system It will be a bigg mess. Off course that is just the start, I mean now government can seize our property for no reason, freedom of speech is suprressed mroe and more, there is more gov. interference in our lives etc.

It really is sad to be in my position (and other likeminded people) we see our rights being violated and taken away from both sides, they only fight over which ones to take. :sad:

zicofirol
11-07-2006, 07:22 PM
:yeah: I hope all of the Americans here do their civic duty and vote today. :dance:


I say dont vote, I will not vote till I see a semi decent candidate out there, not just another parasite running for office.

We really need a contending 3rd party :(

alfonsojose
11-07-2006, 07:46 PM
It would be a slight change, yes.

Right now it appears that the Democrats will win both the House and the Senate, and I'm really hoping they do.

More important for me, though, is that the "marriage amendment" is defeated here.

marry me :kiss:

tangerine_dream
11-07-2006, 07:56 PM
I say dont vote, I will not vote till I see a semi decent candidate out there, not just another parasite running for office.

We really need a contending 3rd party :(

You're not alone. But the good news is that there is *always* a third party to vote for. And it doesn't matter if he's elected or not. Voting for a third party sends the message to the Dems and GOP that you are not voting for them. The two parties would much prefer that smart, middle-class, frustrated, and disgusted-with-it-all people like yourself stay home and NOT vote. The worst-kept secret that the political parties and the media hardly ever clues voters in on is that there is always a third party alternative to vote for.

How badly do the two parties *not* want people to vote third party? Well, a few years ago when I switched my party affiliation to "Independent" I stopped getting my voter cards in the mail that tell me where and when to vote. That never happened while I was registered as a Dem/GOP. Hmm. :scratch: ;)

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/11/07/073359.php

If you're one of these voters you're left in a quandary this year, because you'd like to send the Republicans a message about how dissatisfied you are, BUT you really don't want to vote against your own best interests when you know the Democrats have no plan for Iraq, no plan on immigration, no interest in fighting terrorism, and a genuine desire to raise your taxes to pay for things you don't approve of in the first place. Plus you know that once they get into power their main goal will be to see how they can out spend and out scandal the Republicans.

You know politicians don't listen to your cranky call to the local talk radio station and the form letter response to your 30 page letter to your congressman told you how much he listens to constituents, so by now you've realized that one of the few ways you can get them to take notice is with the power you exercise in the voting booth.

When you get in the voting booth, you're going to face a dilemma. You want to say something more with your vote than just endorsing business as usual or the unappealing alternative. The problem is that whatever nuances go into your vote don't get stamped on it and when the candidate wins no one tells him that 50% of the people who voted for him did it reluctantly or on protest, or just because he sucked less than the alternative. He's a politician, so he's an egomaniac, and he thinks your vote was a big, warm pat on the back telling him to do the same old stuff that left you frustrated and disenchanted.

There's an alternative to voting for the greater or lesser of two evils. You can vote for neither of them and send them both a much more unambiguous message. Most races have at least one-third party or independent candidate on the ballot. Most of them are Libertarians, but there are Greens, Reform candidates, Independents, and some others on the ballot as well. These alternative candidates don't have much of a chance of winning, but every vote they get sends a clear message to the major parties, and if they get enough votes that message can't be ignored. Plus, they're generally not politicians. They're honest, principled people, often running on their own money, just because they're fed up with the political status quo just as you are.

If you want to send a message with your vote — a sort of wake-up call to politicians of both parties — it doesn't have to come at the risk of two or more years of chaos and party conflict. If you vote Democrat it's not just a protest, it's also a vote for change, and not necessarily for the better. If you vote outside the establishment power structure, for a Libertarian, a Green or an Independent, then you're sending a message which is crystal clear and which both parties will have to heed.

So in that voting booth, remember that there are more than just two choices, and there is more than one message you can send.

The blogger forgot to mention that in the odd case where there is no third-party candidate listed, then you can write-in a third party candidate's name, whoever that may be. And it still counts as a vote against the Democrats and Republicans.

savesthedizzle
11-07-2006, 08:03 PM
I voted before work this morning :) It was my first time not doing an absentee ballot :bounce:

Pfloyd
11-07-2006, 08:11 PM
Come on, some of you are seriously stating that Democrats won't help the country at all?

I mean, going against Bush alone is more than enough reason to vote for them. But seriously, Republicans have been in control of congress since 92', any party that lasts that long is bound to get corrupt (as recent cases point out). Democrats need to fix the economy and start doing something productive in Iraq to then start retreating troops, that war, much like Vietnam in the past, is not winnable.

NATAS81
11-07-2006, 08:15 PM
Time to go Eeny Meeny Miney Moe this sumbish.

:D

Pfloyd
11-07-2006, 08:16 PM
Anybody for me creating a live Democratic chearing thread once they start showing results later tonight?

Socket
11-07-2006, 08:19 PM
The choices in the poll confuse me: the second three duplicate the first three in result, only changing the POV of the party. Is that some kind of pollster's trick or just a poorly-designed poll?

savesthedizzle
11-07-2006, 08:23 PM
Anybody for me creating a live Democratic chearing thread once they start showing results later tonight?

I'll post in it if you do ;)

Pfloyd
11-07-2006, 08:23 PM
The choices in the poll confuse me: the second three duplicate the first three in result, only changing the POV of the party. Is that some kind of pollster's trick or just a poorly-designed poll?

I realized that mistake right after I finished the poll. My bad.

The way I realize it, if you vote for the republicans "maintaining" in this poll, your against democrats, this way we can all express our political views.

MTF is a demcracy is it not. :)

Pfloyd
11-07-2006, 08:24 PM
I'll post in it if you do ;)

Deal. :)

Sparko1030
11-07-2006, 08:39 PM
Anybody for me creating a live Democratic chearing thread once they start showing results later tonight?

That sounds like a great idea!!!

I see people are saying they're fed up with the republicans but afraid of the dems. I say we've survived 6 years of one failed policy after another. We're bogged down in a war that was unnecessary to begin with and was mismanaged from the moment we took over Bagdad. We're now stuck there trying to do the right thing yet what can we do now to make it better??? The republicans are only now saying "change the course" that the people of this country are finally waking up to the mess they made.

And I had to laugh at the blog that said they don't want their taxes paying for policies they dont' agree with. Whine whine whine!!! :lol: What do you think the last 6 years have been like for demacrats!!! I am sick of policies to favor the wealthy while the working class gets jacked. Public education is pathetically under funded. With all the talk about the sacredness of life, I wonder how many US citizens die every day because they couldnt' afford preventive or early health care-why do conservatives only care about unborn babies????? The House leadership kept quiet about a child predator in their ranks to protect their power. The hypocrisy is almost laughable were the consequenses not so serious. Yeah, nothing is scarier to me than continued republican/conservative control of all 3 branches.

Thanks goodness it looks good for the dems to take control of the House. I'm not sure if they can take the senate too but right now just taking over the House will be a victory for those of use who see what a mess our country is in right now. Now, that rant felt good!!! :lol:

Socket
11-07-2006, 08:55 PM
I realized that mistake right after I finished the poll. My bad.

The way I realize it, if you vote for the republicans "maintaining" in this poll, your against democrats, this way we can all express our political views.

MTF is a demcracy is it not. :)

Well, the problem with your theory is the placement of the choices. Most people will stop reading after the first three choices and vote at that point, so the results will be skewed. But whatever, you never claimed it was scientific. :)

NyGeL
11-07-2006, 09:23 PM
They are both the same shit.

This is like picking between Mussolini and Franco, but most people will pick Franco becouse Mussolini already show his face during a goverment.

To make my comment clear, Democrats will win becouse everybody (exept Evangelists hahaha) hates "Mr.Danger", but there is slightly no difference between them and republicans.

NicoFan
11-07-2006, 11:12 PM
I voted for the Democrats to take both the House and the Senate.

Don't know if that will really happen though - I hope so though!

zicofirol
11-07-2006, 11:15 PM
I dont mind if Dems win congress,if they win both I will hope a republican wins president in 08 that way they cancel eachother out much like during the clinton years alot of his more drastic plans where shot down by congress and the senate.

NicoFan
11-07-2006, 11:17 PM
I dont mind if Dems win congress,if they win both I will hope a republican wins president in 08 that way they cancel eachother out much like during the clinton years alot of his more drastic plans where shot down by congress and the senate.

Another Republican president? Good grief - NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I want Clinton - with Obama as her vice president. :yeah:

Sparko1030
11-07-2006, 11:54 PM
Another Republican president? Good grief - NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I want Clinton - with Obama as her vice president. :yeah:

:woohoo: That's how I feel when I see his name! :lol: For me he represents hope for our country's future. ( I love Hilary too but I think Obama may be the one to unite our country again.)

Jim Jones
11-08-2006, 12:14 PM
Another Republican president? Good grief - NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I want Clinton - with Obama as her vice president. :yeah:

Actually Obama may compete for U.S. President and I prefer him to Hillary. The U.S. is not a monarchy. U.S. has had Bushes and Clintons non stop since 1989. If Hilary wins then what, next up would it be Jeb Bush?
Obama will trash Hillary. He is a better orator then she is and carries no baggages. He also converted to Chrisitanity from Islam. This may be a seller to the conservatives. I think that Obama will then fight it out against John MCain.

undomiele
11-08-2006, 02:39 PM
Having the house is enough to make bush a lameduck as it is.

The most important thing about this race was having the dems capture most of the governorships. The governorships are absolutely vital in preparing the state and country - in terms of early campaigning, money, etc -for 2008. Think Jeb Bush and Katharine Harris in 2000. They had a tremendous role in how that election turned out.

And now with democratic governors in key states like OHIO the dems won't need Florida.

Having democratic governors in blue states like New York and Massachusetts will maximize revenue for future campaigns.

If the dems get the Senate, a lot more money will be donated to the reigning party. This elections cost Republicans big.

Bilbo
11-08-2006, 04:22 PM
Congrats to the US citizens. Wise decision :yeah:

Get this asshole Bush outta there.

Scotso
11-08-2006, 05:48 PM
marry me :kiss:

Okay ;)

but we can't do it in Virginia :sad:

alfonsojose
11-08-2006, 06:11 PM
Okay ;)

but we can't do it in Virginia :sad:

Nooooo :sobbing: Did some ballot banning us win?

Jim Jones
11-08-2006, 06:44 PM
They are both the same shit.

This is like picking between Mussolini and Franco, but most people will pick Franco becouse Mussolini already show his face during a goverment.

To make my comment clear, Democrats will win becouse everybody (exept Evangelists hahaha) hates "Mr.Danger", but there is slightly no difference between them and republicans.

Don't compare Franco with Mussolini. Franco was way better. He was not an incompetent ruler like Benito. I have lots of respect for Franco and no he was not a fascist.

zicofirol
11-08-2006, 08:32 PM
Don't compare Franco with Mussolini. Franco was way better. He was not an incompetent ruler like Benito. I have lots of respect for Franco and no he was not a fascist.

You know who had a lot of respect for mussolini? FDR, thats right, some of his top advisor's even went to Italy to admire his great new system where the state intervened heavily in everything, that was fascism off course. FDR's policies where consistent with fascism so that is no surprise.

Time magazine even said: "Possibly Italy;s Benito Mussolini will be the Man of the Year when his new Corporative State begins to show results". and those where some fantastic results!!!