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London BACKED for Masters Cup

Agassi Aces
10-31-2006, 10:22 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/6104184.stm


London backed for Masters Cup

The Dome at Greenwich could host the Masters Cup, says De Villiers
London has been backed to host the ATP's season-ending Masters Cup by its chairman Etienne De Villiers.
Shanghai's deal to stage the event runs out in 2008, after which De Villiers said it is likely to return to Europe.

He said: "It's an open process, but I'd love it to go to London in the run-up to the 2012 Olympic Games.

"There's a phenomenal facility at the Dome, and a lot of support from the city authorities, from the LTA, broadcasters and sponsors."

He added: "The Masters Cup needs to be where most of the fans are.

"It needs to follow the natural course of the European indoor season. It would make a lot more sense to have it in Europe.

"I don't regret the fact that the Masters Cup went to Shanghai - it was the right thing to do for the development of the sport and of the Chinese market.

"But we must take the development of tennis in China to the next level which is to give them a Masters Series event in exchange for bringing the Masters Cup back to Europe.

The season's finale for the top eight players in the ATP Race will be staged in Shanghai for the second consecutive year from 13-21 November.

Horatio Caine
10-31-2006, 10:27 PM
Fuck yes!!!

About time we got to stage that or a Masters Series event :yeah:

shotgun
10-31-2006, 10:28 PM
Yeah great idea, will develop the British market. It's not like they hold an ATP tournament already... oh, wait. :rolleyes:

Bilbo
10-31-2006, 10:29 PM
London with 3 ATP tournaments :o

Hugh Jaas
10-31-2006, 10:29 PM
I am sure the dome is going to be developed into a casino.

Anyway like china there will be a 0% chance of a player qualifying(to avoid crowd support for home player) so Britain would great a great venue for the year end event

NicoFan
10-31-2006, 10:34 PM
What a horrid idea.

How cold is it in London in November????

So it would have to be on indoor courts. Yuck....

A big NO to London for the Masters Cup.

Hugh Jaas
10-31-2006, 10:35 PM
London with 3 ATP tournaments :o

to be fair wimbledon is a GS not a atp tournament and all 3 are grass and i presume TMC would be on a hard surface anyway.

I don't think the UK as any inndoor hardcourt facilities capable (8,000+ seats) of hosting the masters cup

Sunset of Age
10-31-2006, 10:35 PM
Great idea!
No misbehaving home crowds (well, depends on Murray's future development, of course...), and yeah, I really like the British attitude on tennis...

NyGeL
10-31-2006, 10:39 PM
I think it's a good idea :p

+alonso
10-31-2006, 10:40 PM
:o Not a good idea for me!

Checho
10-31-2006, 10:44 PM
Itīs a very bad idea, they already has Wimbledon!!

The Master Cup Should be played in a country which doesn't have an important tournament.

aussie12
10-31-2006, 10:48 PM
I don't think any city that has a grand slam deserves a masters event. Keep it in Asia i reckon.

mangoes
10-31-2006, 10:49 PM
I like the idea :D I think London would be a great venue.

revolution
10-31-2006, 10:59 PM
Oh dear the anglophobes are already out in force.

As for the idea yes it sounds good, then again people forget Paris has an AMS and GS, and the US had the USO and the TMC when it was in Houston.

scoobs
10-31-2006, 11:06 PM
I love the idea - it would be held in the Millennium Dome (renamed the O2 from next year and reopened as a major stadium and entertainment venue, possibly with a casino and other attractions.

It would be a great arena (it's being used for the 2012 games for some events), indoors so no worries about the weather.

Yes it's a third event for London but if you look at the Calendar we only really have Queens, Wimbledon and Nottingham in the UK whereas other countries such as France, Germany and Spain actually have many more than this - and I agree as a culmination of the indoor season that goes from Moscow/others to Madrid, Basel and others to Paris, finishing off in London would make much more sense than in Shanghai

One other point - I know first hand how hard it is to get tickets for Wimbledon AND for Queens in London - these events are hugely oversubscribed and it's hard for genuine fans like me to be able to purchase good tickets.

I think there's a market for it coming here - you never see the tennis events in this country with empty seats - even the seniors tour in the Albert Hall is very well attended. I think we'd get bums on seats and lots of them.

Yappa
10-31-2006, 11:07 PM
Sounds good. And put the Asia Masters Series tournament at the end of the Asia Tour (Beijing, Tokyo, etc). This way we would have more weeks between those last two Masters Series tournaments, provided that either Madrid or Paris has to go.

Boris Franz Ecker
10-31-2006, 11:24 PM
London with 3 ATP tournaments :o

That fits. Near London, there's the Mekka of tennis.

aussie12
10-31-2006, 11:25 PM
i would love to see a masters event Tokyo, i think they deserve a masters tournie there. Tennis is very popular there and is always well attended. Personally I do not like Bercy at all why does Paris need two top tournaments. they could replace bercy with an asian masters event and then have the cup in europe.

Boris Franz Ecker
10-31-2006, 11:52 PM
i would love to see a masters event Tokyo, i think they deserve a masters tournie there. Tennis is very popular there and is always well attended. Personally I do not like Bercy at all why does Paris need two top tournaments. they could replace bercy with an asian masters event and then have the cup in europe.

They want to move to Europe because they want to have a complete indoor season in Europe.
Doesn't make sense to go to Asia for one week.

Jimnik
10-31-2006, 11:54 PM
I've changed my mind on this. I think London would be a very good venue to host the Masters Cup.

Peter Flemming, on Sky Sports, made the good point that London is a more famous city than the likes of Lisbon, Madrid and Moscow. A major event like this will attract much more worldwide attention in London than in most other cities. Also the time zone is more convenient for both Europeans and Americans.

I also think that British sports fans are the best in the world. You can garantee that an event like this will sell out very quickly, no matter how big the stadium is (even if no British players take part). Whereas Asian, American and Eastern European events seem to leave a lot of empty seats, which is depressing to watch on the TV.

The Dome would be a great venue. It's a very attractive building and they could set-up a tennis arena with as big a capacity as they wanted. Also, it would be nice to see all the tax money ( :mad: ) we put into this structure being put to good use.

aussie12
10-31-2006, 11:59 PM
i meant for a tokyo masters event to be held earlier in the year and just get rid of bercy at the end of the year. I am starting to change my mind on the whole london thing, it would good to see the season end in the home of tennis i guess.

Sjengster
11-01-2006, 12:21 AM
What a horrid idea.

How cold is it in London in November????

So it would have to be on indoor courts. Yuck....

A big NO to London for the Masters Cup.

Yes, strangely enough it would seem the ATP do want to have the indoor season culminate with an indoor Masters Cup. A radical break with tradition I know, but it might just work!

I think we could do a good job, support would be fair but enthusiastic and I personally hope Federer is still good enough in 2009 to finish in the Top 8 so I get to see him play live. OK, he has a habit of winning a tournament a short train journey away from me, but getting tickets.... a lot of hassle. :p

Geographically it also makes sense, players are normally zig-zagging across the Continent during these last few weeks leading up to the TMC, this way they just have to hop over the Channel for the year-ending event.

Action Jackson
11-01-2006, 08:34 AM
There aren't enough events in the UK, and good to see Disney is keen to spread the gospel of tennis on a global scale.

The Pro
11-01-2006, 08:51 AM
It's good and bad.

It would put that f#cking dome to good use. Plus it would be nice to have an event to go to other than Wimbers (which is kind of expensive if you want to see the real deal).

On the other hand it's good that there's a big event in Asia, even if it is in China, a country many are so-so about human rights-wise. It probly is fairer that the Masters is held in a place with no Grand Slam though.

t0x
11-01-2006, 08:59 AM
Woo! From a completley selfish point of view, this is another oppotunity to get tickets to see the best players in the world play here in the UK. Queens & Wimbledon tickets are like gold dust (although I'm lucky enough to have been to both once yay).

Frooty_Bazooty
11-01-2006, 09:02 AM
Nicofan, the masters is always indoors :rolleyes: even when it was played in sydney in 2000 when it was summer outside, it was still played indoors so your point is stupid

I don't think any city that has a grand slam deserves a masters event. Keep it in Asia i reckon

we are currently in the middle of the PARIS masters, which is where the FRENCH Open is played! :rolleyes: so how is this any different?

I think its a really good idea, London is much closer to Paris which means there might be less withdrawals from Paris :help: . Also, the british are very good at attending their tournaments, Queens always has huge attendance even from Day 1 which is more than can be said for some tournaments in Asia (i seem to remember Ljubicic v Ginepri in Bangkok QF with less than half an audience)

d.anyb.oy
11-01-2006, 09:12 AM
I like this idea. London is a high profile city, and its practically guaranteed that all tickets will sell out. Good move if it happens.

Boris Franz Ecker
11-01-2006, 09:35 AM
So it would have to be on indoor courts. Yuck....

A big NO to London for the Masters Cup.

You obviously prefer rain delays.

Duncan
11-01-2006, 10:39 AM
Brilliant idea i reckon. London would be a great central location for many people and the dome has a chance to finally start making money!

Sofonda Cox
11-01-2006, 10:45 AM
a fantastic tournament, in a fantastic city, with fantasic fans. what more could you want:) :) :) :)

propi
11-01-2006, 10:46 AM
Urgh, do it in a big city in a country without a big tennis tournament... Istanbul, Warsaw, Prague, Dublin. etc.
Heck, the ideal place IMO would be something like Stockholm if they got rid of his tourney during the stay of the YEC in Nordic land :p

Boris Franz Ecker
11-01-2006, 10:59 AM
Urgh, do it in a big city in a country without a big tennis tournament... Istanbul, Warsaw, Prague, Dublin. etc.
Heck, the ideal place IMO would be something like Stockholm if they got rid of his tourney during the stay of the YEC in Nordic land :p

Nonsense, it should be in a country with a player able to qualify.
Murray could be the local hero in London.
And such a local hero is always good for a tournament.

Of course indoors, preferrably in Europe.
London would be optimal choice.
Others: Frankfurt, great tournament in the early 90ies, but no local hero in sight.

Sofonda Cox
11-01-2006, 11:02 AM
Nonsense, it should be in a country with a player able to qualify.
Murray could be the local hero in London.
And such a local hero is always good for a tournament.

Of course indoors, preferrably in Europe.
London would be optimal choice.
Others: Frankfurt, great tournament in the early 90ies, but no local hero in sight.

:haha: you almost made me piss myself

oz_boz
11-01-2006, 12:12 PM
Nonsense, it should be in a country with a player able to qualify.

The only way to ensure that without having to move it every year would be to hold TMC in the US.

Murray could be the local hero in London.

Not sure he will qualify. And yes, he is British, but not English.

canbera
11-01-2006, 01:13 PM
it would be fine.

they could cancel either Madrid or Paris and maybe Cincy ( or Canada, I don't care ) and give both Asia and maybe South America MS Events.

Then the IS tournaments in Bangkok, Tokyo, Beijing etc. would work as optionals for the MS in the certain region.

And the same could work with the smaller Clay Court tournaments in South America as they would also have their own MS event.

Hamburg in exchange could turn into a Grass Masters Series event.

wow I got great visions ^^

Hendu
11-01-2006, 02:22 PM
De Villiers share the love!

Give the Masters Cup to a country that doesn't have big tournaments.

tennis lover
11-01-2006, 02:33 PM
I personally think it's a great idea (on a purely selfish level!). We hardly get any tennis here and although I'm lucky enough to go to Wimbledon every year, I've never been to Queens or Nottingham and it would be nice to have another event I can go to! :D Plus, the Masters Cup is different from other events with just the 8 best players in the world playing, why should we be denied having the chance to see such a quality tournament in the UK just because we already have a grand slam? :awww:

+alonso
11-01-2006, 02:37 PM
Oh dear the anglophobes are already out in force.

As for the idea yes it sounds good, then again people forget Paris has an AMS and GS, and the US had the USO and the TMC when it was in Houston.

Well, it does not mean I agree with having a GS and AMS in Paris either, :shrug:


It sounds unfair to nations in Asia, etc.

Hendu
11-01-2006, 02:51 PM
I personally think it's a great idea (on a purely selfish level!). We hardly get any tennis here and although I'm lucky enough to go to Wimbledon every year, I've never been to Queens or Nottingham and it would be nice to have another event I can go to! :D Plus, the Masters Cup is different from other events with just the 8 best players in the world playing, why should we be denied having the chance to see such a quality tournament in the UK just because we already have a grand slam? :awww:

Because you already have a month of the calendar in the UK.

The Masters Cup should rotate in countries that don't have the chance to watch that ammount of quality tennis every year.

Damita
11-01-2006, 02:53 PM
What a horrid idea.

How cold is it in London in November????

So it would have to be on indoor courts. Yuck....

A big NO to London for the Masters Cup.:confused: Given that the Masters Cup follows the indoor season it kinda makes sense if it's indoor, no? :p


I like the idea of the European indoor season... til the very end. :D
And on a purely selfish point of view, I'm thinking Eurostar tickets are affordable, whereas going to Houston and Beijing was out of question for me. :banana:

ae wowww
11-01-2006, 03:22 PM
Yay :d!

TheBoiledEgg
11-01-2006, 04:35 PM
London is a great choice, most diverse city in the world, even though 99% of Londeners would probably mug you if you're having a heart attack :o

Allstar
11-01-2006, 05:00 PM
We really need another tournament to be honest. Wimbledon is packed every day and even Queens was rammed on the outside courts. There is easily the demand for it

cherry@cupcake
11-01-2006, 05:02 PM
Finally a decision from Etienne that I like.

Of course, it's a purely selfish reaction, since I live really close to the Dome. But it'd be great to use a future Olympic venue for tennis and, as has been said, you can guarantee that there'll always be a good audience.

NeverSayDie
11-01-2006, 05:12 PM
London is a great choice, most diverse city in the world, even though 99% of Londeners would probably mug you if you're having a heart attack :o

:mad: ......But true :rolleyes:

Im very happy about this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :dance: I hope it does come to London, maybe it will create a few more tennis fans in this football-is-the-only-sport country :o I have been to the Dome where it could be held that would be amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Hendu
11-01-2006, 05:15 PM
We really need another tournament to be honest. Wimbledon is packed every day and even Queens was rammed on the outside courts. There is easily the demand for it

A lot of countries "need" tournaments. England already has 2 ATP Tournaments and a GS.

The Masters Cup would have high demand in many places in the world.

rmb6687
11-01-2006, 05:34 PM
I personally think it's a great idea (on a purely selfish level!). We hardly get any tennis here and although I'm lucky enough to go to Wimbledon every year, I've never been to Queens or Nottingham and it would be nice to have another event I can go to! :D Plus, the Masters Cup is different from other events with just the 8 best players in the world playing, why should we be denied having the chance to see such a quality tournament in the UK just because we already have a grand slam? :awww:

why? Because you already have a grand slam...

sorry to be so curt about it. While having it in London eventually is a good idea, I think for the time being it should either be in an Asian country (i'd like anything but China, but that's the largest most developed market so right now) or South America.

And I honestly didnt see anything selfish about having the Masters Cup in Houston. New York is far, and there are very few people who can afford to go New York to watch a slam...and the us is just huge in general. But because it has so many tournaments already, the masters should stay out of the us too.

whatever the decision is, I'd like somewhere in asia(russia included)

blosson
11-01-2006, 05:45 PM
It's a great idea and it would make life easier for most players geographically speaking. Madrid, Paris and then London.

Asia needs a GS.

tennis lover
11-01-2006, 06:47 PM
Because you already have a month of the calendar in the UK.

The Masters Cup should rotate in countries that don't have the chance to watch that ammount of quality tennis every year.
yeah, I understand that but I don't think it's going to be a permanant move is it?! :confused: and even though we have a month of tennis, it doesn't mean we can go and watch it all. Plus, I often only see the matches on the outside courts at Wimbledon so the chances of seeing Federer and the other top players are quite rare.

Hendu
11-01-2006, 07:12 PM
yeah, I understand that but I don't think it's going to be a permanant move is it?! :confused: and even though we have a month of tennis, it doesn't mean we can go and watch it all.

Well, you still have A LOT of tennis and many chances to watch top players.

Many other countries have none.

Plus, I often only see the matches on the outside courts at Wimbledon so the chances of seeing Federer and the other top players are quite rare.

my chances of watching Federer are "quite" rare too... :shrug:

Boris Franz Ecker
11-01-2006, 07:25 PM
The only way to ensure that without having to move it every year would be to hold TMC in the US.



Not sure he will qualify. And yes, he is British, but not English.

USA had it for two years and that was an error.
They didn't even have a roof. Rain delays and all this nonsense.. no.

It would be an interesting story every year, wether the local hero can qualify or can't with someone like Murray.

Zurich or Basel would also be a good choice.

zicofirol
11-01-2006, 07:29 PM
Fuck yes!!!

About time we got to stage that or a Masters Series event :yeah:

good, as long as its not in china its all good.

Fedex
11-01-2006, 07:38 PM
I think we could do a good job, support would be fair but enthusiastic and I personally hope Federer is still good enough in 2009 to finish in the Top 8 so I get to see him play live. OK, he has a habit of winning a tournament a short train journey away from me, but getting tickets.... a lot of hassle. :p


Sjengster, you act as if 2009 was 10 years from now, but its only 2 years. I'm pretty confident that Federer will still be in the top 8 in 2009. ;) :lol:

rmb6687
11-01-2006, 07:45 PM
It's a great idea and it would make life easier for most players geographically speaking. Madrid, Paris and then London.

Asia needs a GS.

do you want 5 slams?

I gotta say that I like the slams where they are, but a mastes series in asia (and like someone said, not in china) would be a good change and investment.

scoobs
11-01-2006, 10:07 PM
De Villiers wants to put a TMS in Asia and I think that's what they should have done in the first place.

You have to look at where the sport is growing and where there is demand. Tennis is growing in Asia but putting the TMC there so soon was a mistake - it was the easy option since this tourney has no fixed abode so I can see why they did it but upgrading an existing tournament to a TMS or creating a new on in an existing location would have been a better decision to grow the sport out there - it needs a proper tournament pulling in a strong field not just 8 players in the RR format.

The TMC needs to be in a logical place for the end of season tournaments and that's in Europe.

And while the UK has a slam and it has Queens and Nottingham, as has been pointed out, these tournaments are always heavily oversubscribed (unlike a lot of tournaments out there) - in short, there's demand here for more and I think a tournament like the TMC would be great here, at least for a couple of years prior to the Olympics as they are doing now in China. It follows the flow of the season much better and would, in my view, be very successful here.

Sjengster
11-01-2006, 10:14 PM
Sjengster, you act as if 2009 was 10 years from now, but its only 2 years. I'm pretty confident that Federer will still be in the top 8 in 2009. ;) :lol:

3, actually. :p

aussie12
11-01-2006, 10:27 PM
It's a great idea and it would make life easier for most players geographically speaking. Madrid, Paris and then London.

Asia needs a GS.

Well the australian open has called itself the grand slam of asia/pacific in the last few years, and australia is slowly moving towards being part of asia in many ways, we are now in the asian confederation of fifa so i guess you call our slam the slam of asia. i think tokyo should definetley host the masters cup, its in asia and without the issues china faces (eg. human rights)

tennis lover
11-02-2006, 12:56 AM
Well, you still have A LOT of tennis and many chances to watch top players.

Many other countries have none.

my chances of watching Federer are "quite" rare too... :shrug:
OK, I know that the UK isn't the worst off country tennis-wise. I did say I was being selfish though. :)

aussie_fan
11-02-2006, 02:18 AM
It's a silly idea, why have the Masters Cup in a city that has a GS and an ATP tournament. It's a joke

I like the tournament being in Shanghai it makes sense trying to grow to that market.

TheBoiledEgg
11-02-2006, 03:35 PM
I wanna see the Masters Cup sometime being played on clay
that would be funny but probably most of the players wouldnt be able to finish their matches off :o

Julio1974
11-02-2006, 03:39 PM
I can't say it's fair (London already has a GS) but business is business. At least, I will not need to wake up at 3 am to watch the matches.

nobama
11-02-2006, 05:55 PM
It's a silly idea, why have the Masters Cup in a city that has a GS and an ATP tournament. It's a joke

I like the tournament being in Shanghai it makes sense trying to grow to that market.I agree there should be a big event in Asia, but not TMC. Should be a combined SEWTA/ATP event. Makes sense to have TMC in Europe since it's kind of the end of the indoors season.

CmonAussie
11-03-2006, 02:29 AM
Well the australian open has called itself the grand slam of asia/pacific in the last few years, and australia is slowly moving towards being part of asia in many ways, we are now in the asian confederation of fifa so i guess you call our slam the slam of asia. i think tokyo should definetley host the masters cup, its in asia and without the issues china faces (eg. human rights)
:wavey:
MATE:cool:
Do you live in Japan:confused: ... I`m living in Japan now & i can tell you honestly there`s not much interest in mens tennis here:sad: ..

## Until Federer showed up at the Tokyo event last month he was never considered newsworthy:eek: ... In the three years I`ve lived here I`d never seen Federer on TV [except for the late night Wimby finals]... If you took a poll in Japan asking them to name 5-pro tennis players... it would go like this+

1. Maria Sharapova
2. Kimiko Date [retired]
3. Sugiyama [doubles veteran]
4. Matsuoka [TV presenter~ won one ATP tourney 5yrs ago]
5. Maria Sharapova [why bother with variety when you`ve got Mrs.Nipples]

:eek: Point is this~~>> TMC should defnitely not be played in TOKYO:p ... They`ve got no fricken clue about what`s happening in the tennis world:o

Shanghai is much better:angel: ...Otherwise another Asian city like Bangkok would also be suitable:cool:

Horatio Caine
02-21-2007, 03:40 PM
OMG...the fines, suspensions and 1,000 points for winning a Masters Series?? Is he crazy??? :retard:

Deathless Mortal
02-21-2007, 03:46 PM
Better London than Shanghai, not because of organisation, it's good in Shanghai, but because of the time difference. It will be much easier for people from Europe to watch the matches.

Feketepuss
02-21-2007, 03:51 PM
Does this mean that the Masters events will offer the same ranking points as Grand Slams?

I can't see the logic in that.

*Viva Chile*
02-21-2007, 03:51 PM
Worst idea ever!!!!! :o

London has a grand slam, they will have the olympics at 2012, what's the matter of having one more big tourney??? Left to other places important events.

Apart from UK, I also think that France has a lot of tennis events, so neither of this countries please. :angel:

GlennMirnyi
02-21-2007, 03:54 PM
Worst idea ever!!!!! :o

London has a grand slam, they will have the olympics at 2012, what's the matter of having one more big tourney??? Left to other places important events.

Apart from UK, I also think that France has a lot of tennis events, so neither of this countries please. :angel:

Like?

Do you really like having to wake up at 3-4 am to watch the TMC?

lau
02-21-2007, 04:04 PM
Like?

Do you really like having to wake up at 3-4 am to watch the TMC?

It´s not like the only options are UK, US, France and Shangai ;)

I, for selfish reasons :p , prefer London to Shangai, anyway, but I agree that UK already have big tennis events and it would be nice if the ATP decided to have the MC hosted in other places. But as Julio said, business is business.

GlennMirnyi
02-21-2007, 04:07 PM
Itīs not like the only options are UK, US, France and Shangai ;)

I, for selfish reasons :p , prefer London to Shangai, anyway, but I agree that UK already have big tennis events and it would be nice if the ATP decided to have the MC hosted in other places. But as Julio said, business is business.

Where would you make it then?

Labamba
02-21-2007, 04:09 PM
I don't mind having the Masters in London, it's a better option than Shanghai. Also having one MS in China makes sense, but the other ideas... :cuckoo:

players suspended? 1,000 points for winning a MS? :help:

lau
02-21-2007, 04:15 PM
Where would you make it then?

There are other European countries, to name the safest option. But that would require some work the ATP doesn´t seem to be willing to do. As I said business is business and nothing wrong with that.
It would be nice to have it somewhere else. Not that it´s going to happen anytime soon...

The other..., well, lets call it "ideas" are :tape: :help:

GlennMirnyi
02-21-2007, 04:19 PM
There are other European countries, to name the safest option. But that would require some work the ATP doesnīt seem to be willing to do. As I said business is business and nothing wrong with that.
It would be nice to have it somewhere else. Not that itīs going to happen anytime soon...

The other..., well, lets call it "ideas" :p are :tape:

Well, something this big is only happening in the US or Europe, apart from where it's happening now. So, I back Europe there, as long as it's not in Spain.

CooCooCachoo
02-21-2007, 04:21 PM
"There are no options for these events, it's eight of eight for the players. If you don't show up, you will be fined and suspended.

:haha:

Yes, the fans really prefer seeing players lose on purpose.

:help:

Hendu
02-21-2007, 04:49 PM
De Villiers also said that one of the eight Masters Series events would be held in China.

Bring one to South America!!! :boxing:

*Viva Chile*
02-21-2007, 05:27 PM
Like?

Do you really like having to wake up at 3-4 am to watch the TMC?

good point, but there are other countries too

Agassi Aces
02-21-2007, 06:07 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/6383347.stm

ATP chief boosts London Cup hopes

Federer won his third Masters Cup in four years in Shanghai last year
The ATP has reiterated that London could host the end-of-season Masters Cup from 2009 as one of a set of changes being made to the series.
The Masters Series will be cut from nine to eight tournaments with the Cup being moved from Asia to Europe.

ATP president Etienne de Villiers said: "The Masters Cup will be called the ATP World Tour Finals and I would like it to be played in London."

De Villiers added that players who miss top ranking events will be punished.

The strict new sanctions for withdrawals from ATP tournaments will be imposed from 2009, with players fined and even suspended if they do not show up at the top eight elite events.

"We had 384 withdrawals last year," De Villiers said.

"There are no options for these events, it's eight of eight for the players. If you don't show up, you will be fined and suspended.

"We have to put some teeth into this - and you can guess how popular I am with the players right now."

De Villiers also said that one of the eight Masters Series events would be held in China.

Shanghai hosted the end-of-year event in 2005 and 2006 but will still stage the championship this season and next.

ATP tournaments in 2009 will also come under four categories of importance, the four grand slams, the Masters Series, 10 other selected events and others.

The fourth category of tournament will not feature top players.

De Villiers explained: "Just as in football, we have to make clear to the people that tennis also acknowledges a second and third division."

jazar
02-21-2007, 06:13 PM
yes, i want to see it in london. it is the perfect venue

R.Federer
02-21-2007, 06:25 PM
Excellent! I hope it will be on grass, for parity's sake.

Hendu
02-21-2007, 06:28 PM
Excellent! I hope it will be on grass, for parity's sake.

never

nobama
02-21-2007, 06:36 PM
What a horrid idea.

How cold is it in London in November????

So it would have to be on indoor courts. Yuck....

A big NO to London for the Masters Cup.
Why is that yuck? It was indoors in Shanghai too. Isn't the fall season supposed to be an 'indoors' season? I'd be nice if it was a real carpet season too.

R.Federer
02-21-2007, 06:39 PM
never

Never? As in you hope it never is on grass, or that the organizers have said it won't be? (Is there any mention of the surface? Anyone?)

guilleakd
02-21-2007, 06:43 PM
it's better than shangai

FluffyYellowBall
02-21-2007, 06:54 PM
well, better than shanghai but still...3 atp tournaments including a slam and an MC is too much. Doesnt make sense to me. And London, one of the most expensive cities in the world and the most expensive in Europe. They wont be having any fans out of the City, let alone the country. So many other options withing Europe and what happened to marketing tennis in the middle east and africa if thats what they care about. There are LOTS of fans here...

Hendu
02-21-2007, 06:54 PM
Never? As in you hope it never is on grass, or that the organizers have said it won't be? (Is there any mention of the surface? Anyone?)

If it was a matter of what I like, then it would have to be on clay.

But considering when it is played, it is highly improbable it would be on grass.

GlennMirnyi
02-21-2007, 06:58 PM
It should be grass indoor. Bye bye Boredos and Nadals.

Hendu
02-21-2007, 07:03 PM
It should be grass indoor. Bye bye Boredos and Nadals.

grass indoors?

bye bye tennis.

FluffyYellowBall
02-21-2007, 07:06 PM
grass indoors?

bye bye tennis.

Exactly and 3 tournaments in England all on grass will make that little extra boriing

GlennMirnyi
02-21-2007, 07:07 PM
grass indoors?

bye bye tennis.

Well, better than a moonballing contest/mud wrestiling on clay. :)

scoobs
02-21-2007, 07:20 PM
It will at the Millennium Dome on indoor hard, I should imagine. Not grass. Not clay. Probably not carpet, either.

nisha
02-21-2007, 08:06 PM
i think it would be a great idea and a lot of the players would enjoy it too coming to london.

+alonso
02-21-2007, 08:19 PM
It would be so selfish to have it in London! Someone said Wimbledon isn't an ATP event so it doesnt count, but still is one of the biggest events in the year! Queens+Wimbledon+Olympics+FinalsYearMasters? :rolleyes:

Like you guys are saying, There's plenty of places in Europe where this could be held, 'cause everybody understood this can be played in another place than Europe of course! :o :rolleyes:

nobama
02-21-2007, 08:42 PM
It will at the Millennium Dome on indoor hard, I should imagine. Not grass. Not clay. Probably not carpet, either.A surface similar to Madrid?

R.Federer
02-21-2007, 08:54 PM
It would be so selfish to have it in London! Someone said Wimbledon isn't an ATP event so it doesnt count, but still is one of the biggest events in the year! Queens+Wimbledon+Olympics+FinalsYearMasters? :rolleyes:


Olympics is a one shot deal. Cup is for 3 years, then it goes away.

So really there is Wimbledon and Queens. And I guess Nottingham has a decent turnout, sometimes. Compare that with France or the US, and it doesn't at all seem bad to have a T.M.S in England.

shotgun
02-21-2007, 08:57 PM
"Just as in football we have to make clear to the people that tennis also acknowledges a second and third division."

What are challengers and futures for then? :retard:

RogiFan88
02-21-2007, 08:59 PM
Now THAT is a great idea!! Hope it happens!

+alonso
02-21-2007, 09:07 PM
Olympics is a one shot deal. Cup is for 3 years, then it goes away.

So really there is Wimbledon and Queens. And I guess Nottingham has a decent turnout, sometimes. Compare that with France or the US, and it doesn't at all seem bad to have a T.M.S in England.

Is not about giving it to US or France either!, It is about London having too much tennis tournaments, and of course, There are places that need to be considered too. Like I said, I could be held in another places of Europe, where the crowd is as great as in the London. :shrug:

Tennis need to be spread to more places.

NicoFan
02-21-2007, 09:11 PM
It would be so selfish to have it in London! Someone said Wimbledon isn't an ATP event so it doesnt count, but still is one of the biggest events in the year! Queens+Wimbledon+Olympics+FinalsYearMasters? :rolleyes:

Like you guys are saying, There's plenty of places in Europe where this could be held, 'cause everybody understood this can be played in another place than Europe of course! :o :rolleyes:


I agree Alonso...there are great places to have this other than Europe and the U.S. who have the bulk of the tournaments.

I would love to see it in South America.

:yeah:

BATES
02-21-2007, 09:11 PM
Nooooooooooooooooo... bring it to South America.. we deserve a little more than just some "International Series" :sad:

joeb_uk
02-21-2007, 10:49 PM
Pathetic choice of venue, the only venue they should be thinking of is the Royal Albert Hall. Probably the nicest venue for tennis I have ever seen, and also great for music too :D