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Björki
10-30-2006, 06:48 PM
5-5

Iván
10-30-2006, 06:48 PM
lol-- im only kidding.

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 06:48 PM
Ace 5-5.

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 06:48 PM
5-5

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 06:48 PM
15-0

Iván
10-30-2006, 06:49 PM
i can smell 0-15 0-30 `15-30 15-40 break...

willrock
10-30-2006, 06:50 PM
I hope Flo will hold even under pressure :unsure:
I'm sure he is supported by a wild crowd :D

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 06:50 PM
30-30

watch him blow the next pt

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 06:51 PM
LOL, he blew it on a 2nd serve

shakes
10-30-2006, 06:51 PM
Get the BP.

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 06:51 PM
deuce

Iván
10-30-2006, 06:51 PM
umpire he helping vliegen

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 06:52 PM
Ad Serra.

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 06:52 PM
he blew it

adv serra

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 06:52 PM
That umpire was completely wrong in overturning that call. 6-5 Serra.

Björki
10-30-2006, 06:52 PM
Serra 6-5*

hold for the TB Kris

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 06:53 PM
6-5 Serra

shakes
10-30-2006, 06:53 PM
Kris isn't the strongest player mentally. I hope he has it in him to keep his nerves if he makes it to the TB.

silverwhite
10-30-2006, 06:53 PM
OMG, Lars Graff. That FH swing volley from Serra at 30-15 was WAY in (as proven by Hawkeye) but he overruled when the linesperson didn't say anything. :retard:

Iván
10-30-2006, 06:53 PM
vliegen on the tiebreak- big serve will provail

shakes
10-30-2006, 06:54 PM
vliegen on the tiebreak- big serve will provail

I hope he gets there. Been let down by Vliegen too many times to assume he's getting there.

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 06:54 PM
0-15

here it comes

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 06:54 PM
Ace 15-15.

Björki
10-30-2006, 06:54 PM
Kris *0-15

Björki
10-30-2006, 06:55 PM
2 BP Rochus

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 06:55 PM
15-30. Great backhand shot from Serra.

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 06:55 PM
15-30

fuck my luck

Iván
10-30-2006, 06:55 PM
vliegen to save match points and win tiebreak

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 06:55 PM
2 match points for Serra. 15-40.

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 06:55 PM
2mps serra

what a choke

Björki
10-30-2006, 06:56 PM
2 MP Serra

HOLD

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 06:56 PM
Big serve 30-40.

Björki
10-30-2006, 06:56 PM
one saved.

ace him Kris

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 06:56 PM
2nd serve.

shakes
10-30-2006, 06:56 PM
Vliegen going to do it to me again. That's it.

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 06:56 PM
2nd serve to come...

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 06:56 PM
40-40.

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 06:57 PM
deuce

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 06:57 PM
Serra blew his chance.

Björki
10-30-2006, 06:57 PM
deuce :D
Come on Kris

Rochus breaks back *4-4

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 06:57 PM
Gp Vliegen

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 06:57 PM
adv vliegen

Iván
10-30-2006, 06:58 PM
vliegen on the tiebreak

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 06:58 PM
6-6 Tiebreak.

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 06:58 PM
6-6 TB

i give vliegen the edge in this one

Björki
10-30-2006, 06:58 PM
TB win it Kris :bounce:

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 06:58 PM
Serra had a chance to end this and he didn't come through.

Björki
10-30-2006, 06:59 PM
Vliegen *1-0

shakes
10-30-2006, 06:59 PM
MB to start. Hold it.

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 06:59 PM
2-0 Vliegen

Björki
10-30-2006, 06:59 PM
Vliegen *2-0

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 07:00 PM
3-0

break him again

Eva Kas-Jacobson
10-30-2006, 07:00 PM
Vielgen C Mon !!!!!!!

Win Please

Chris-swede
10-30-2006, 07:00 PM
Vliegen will win now! And Christophe is hanging in now very very tough!

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 07:01 PM
3-1

dangerous if serra holds again

Björki
10-30-2006, 07:01 PM
3-1*

Iván
10-30-2006, 07:01 PM
vligens gonna do it.

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 07:01 PM
4-1 Vliegen

Björki
10-30-2006, 07:01 PM
*4-1

Chris-swede
10-30-2006, 07:01 PM
The game is over now...4-1, no chance Serra will come back...

shakes
10-30-2006, 07:02 PM
Ivan, didnt you call for the Vliegen win in your post to start the Tennis Gamblers Forum for today?

Björki
10-30-2006, 07:02 PM
*4-2

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 07:02 PM
4-2

he better hold now

Björki
10-30-2006, 07:03 PM
Kris :eek: come on

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 07:03 PM
what a choke

4-3

Chris-swede
10-30-2006, 07:03 PM
ouch...what a rollercoaster now...

Björki
10-30-2006, 07:03 PM
Kris :smash:

4-3*

shakes
10-30-2006, 07:03 PM
He jsut gave back both MBs. Unbelievable.

Chris-swede
10-30-2006, 07:04 PM
why so many people here uses the word "choke" for everything???

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 07:04 PM
4-4

rofl

Björki
10-30-2006, 07:04 PM
4-4

Eva Kas-Jacobson
10-30-2006, 07:04 PM
vliegen 4-1

4-4 :mad:

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 07:04 PM
5-4 Vliegen

2 serves

Björki
10-30-2006, 07:04 PM
Kris *5-4

shakes
10-30-2006, 07:04 PM
Come on Vliegen. 2 aces downt he T.

Chris-swede
10-30-2006, 07:04 PM
*5-4 Vliegen! Yeah
And set point Rochus! Unbelievable! Saved.

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 07:04 PM
6-4

ace#14

Björki
10-30-2006, 07:05 PM
2 MP Vliegen

take one!!!!!!

Chris-swede
10-30-2006, 07:05 PM
Acasuso vs Rochus 5-5 in 2nd set.

superboy2006
10-30-2006, 07:05 PM
THATS IT!!! the better player has been thriumphant...after saving 2 MP on his serve!...............Brilliant!

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 07:05 PM
GSM Vliegen

Björki
10-30-2006, 07:06 PM
GSm Vliegen 3-6, 6-3, 7-6 :D

Eva Kas-Jacobson
10-30-2006, 07:06 PM
Vliegen gsm :woohoo:

Vamos Chucho

Chris-swede
10-30-2006, 07:06 PM
Gsm Vliegen!!!!!

Nitefaery
10-30-2006, 07:06 PM
Way To Go Kris!

belco
10-30-2006, 07:07 PM
:bounce: g$$$$m Vliegen :D :D :D

Sheva
10-30-2006, 07:07 PM
Vliegen just saved my TT day! Woahhh!

Ays25
10-30-2006, 07:07 PM
get your act together you chili pepper

Voo de Mar
10-30-2006, 07:11 PM
Vliegen :yeah:
He wasted three match points in Stockholm and lost 6-7 in the third, today saved two and won 7-6 in the third :)

superboy2006
10-30-2006, 07:12 PM
What a disgusting display from Acasuso!.....only Rochuses miserability who had 10!BPs.....saves Jose from collapse...

Chris-swede
10-30-2006, 07:14 PM
TB-Time, and MB for Acasuso.

Chris-swede
10-30-2006, 07:15 PM
MB Back. Funny that there were not more breaks so far.
And Rochus had a hard time to break, Acasuso served minimum 5 Aces on this break points, so you cannot break...

Eva Kas-Jacobson
10-30-2006, 07:17 PM
looser acasuso :haha:

Chris-swede
10-30-2006, 07:18 PM
1st DF for Acasuso at a very wrong time! :)

Chris-swede
10-30-2006, 07:19 PM
c'mon Christophe!

Chris-swede
10-30-2006, 07:20 PM
5-4* lol, this 2 are allways give everything back very soon...but Christophe is a fighter and no serve guy...

Chris-swede
10-30-2006, 07:20 PM
7-4 haha.....gooo Christophe!!!

superboy2006
10-30-2006, 07:21 PM
Acasuso is an unbelieveble mental donkey!!!.....has had a comfortable lead in second....wasted it...and than on a tie-break after firering 14! aces.....double-faulted for the 1st time in a match....

Chris-swede
10-30-2006, 07:22 PM
I think Acasuso can be very stronger, if he really wants it. He is very dangerous sometimes...and sometimes not...

Sheva
10-30-2006, 07:22 PM
Chokucho!

Better take the third Jose!

coreyschucky
10-30-2006, 07:24 PM
Danger zone here for Chucho...0*-30

coreyschucky
10-30-2006, 07:25 PM
3 bps for Rochus...Unreal..C'mon Chucho

Eva Kas-Jacobson
10-30-2006, 07:26 PM
chucho :sad: :mad: :o

coreyschucky
10-30-2006, 07:26 PM
Chucho saves two

coreyschucky
10-30-2006, 07:26 PM
Rochus breaks...Crazy

superboy2006
10-30-2006, 07:26 PM
AWFULL!!!.....1.22.....AGAINST half-dead Rochus....and .....0-40 at the start of the decider!....and broken.....thats extremly talented stuff Jose....

shakes
10-30-2006, 07:26 PM
Phm 1-0*

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 07:27 PM
let's go PHM

Klaas_nalbandian
10-30-2006, 07:27 PM
omg wtf is jose doing, this cant be happening

superboy2006
10-30-2006, 07:30 PM
Something like Muller against Pashanski in New Heaven......but Jose is a veritable phenomenon!......

coreyschucky
10-30-2006, 07:30 PM
Rochus holds and leads 4-6, 7-6, 2-0*

Nitefaery
10-30-2006, 07:32 PM
Jose Serves 40-15 To Deuce

Sheva
10-30-2006, 07:33 PM
Get yourself together Chucho! 2*-1 now!

snort
10-30-2006, 07:33 PM
wtf? this is making me sick..

coreyschucky
10-30-2006, 07:34 PM
C'mon Chucho..FIGHTTTTT!!!!

superboy2006
10-30-2006, 07:34 PM
Acasusos brain is on a vacation.......

Nitefaery
10-30-2006, 07:35 PM
please break back acasuso!

snort
10-30-2006, 07:35 PM
Come on Jose, get ur game together and break here :sport:

ReturnWinner
10-30-2006, 07:35 PM
retire acaloser losing against that semi retired journeyman and with a choke :retard: your are his bitch now

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 07:35 PM
2bps PHM

do it

superboy2006
10-30-2006, 07:37 PM
Hopeless on Rochuses serve.......annoying......wish it would end soon....

coreyschucky
10-30-2006, 07:37 PM
Rochus holds and leads 4-6, 7-6, 3-1*

C'mon Chucho!!!

ReturnWinner
10-30-2006, 07:37 PM
you can not return his shitty serve :retard:

fez
10-30-2006, 07:38 PM
he's doing his davis cup spot a whole lot of good this performance

shakes
10-30-2006, 07:39 PM
Lets go PHM. Hold this break.

shakes
10-30-2006, 07:40 PM
PHM cruises through his first two service games. Gets the break, and then struggles immediately after. Great job!

snort
10-30-2006, 07:40 PM
Look at him - stupidity. You even can tell by a look at his face :silly:

ReturnWinner
10-30-2006, 07:40 PM
fez who are those two hot girls?

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 07:41 PM
welcome to PHM airlines :retard:

coreyschucky
10-30-2006, 07:41 PM
Break now Chucho

Nitefaery
10-30-2006, 07:42 PM
Vamos Jose!!! :worship:

fez
10-30-2006, 07:42 PM
fez who are those two hot girls?

lol don't recognize them?

Marta Domachowska and Kirilenko

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 07:43 PM
0-30

funny guy this mathieu. his brain is his only problem.

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 07:43 PM
3bps paulo

coreyschucky
10-30-2006, 07:44 PM
Chucho can't get anything off of Rochus serve

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 07:44 PM
broken

4-2 PHM

fez
10-30-2006, 07:45 PM
PHM, Verdasco, Malisse 3 of the best headcasesin the business

ReturnWinner
10-30-2006, 07:46 PM
no i d o not follow wta very much
but i known those two player by name
lol don't recognize them?

Marta Domachowska and Kirilenko

Klaas_nalbandian
10-30-2006, 07:47 PM
acasuso , hold and break , pfff don't do this , c.rochus is a terrible player

fez
10-30-2006, 07:47 PM
is not f*cking trying the argie. giving c. rochus 13 bp chances is just embarassing to say the least

coreyschucky
10-30-2006, 07:49 PM
Only two more chances for Chucho

Rochus leads 4-6, 7-6, 4*-3

j-mAc
10-30-2006, 07:49 PM
what happened to rochus serve?

i mean in the first set, chucho always got some points from his serve,cant understand this.. is he tired or rochus playing in such a good shape?! :confused:

Klaas_nalbandian
10-30-2006, 07:49 PM
why show up if you play like this jose

shakes
10-30-2006, 07:50 PM
no i d o not follow wta very much
but i known those two player by name

I know those two players by...oh, never mind.;)

shakes
10-30-2006, 07:50 PM
Phm 5-2* 30-15

j-mAc
10-30-2006, 07:51 PM
rochus hitting aces on 2nd serve.. this one seems to be over :(

coreyschucky
10-30-2006, 07:51 PM
2nd serve ace for Rochus just his 4th of the match

j-mAc
10-30-2006, 07:52 PM
Anyone watching the game?

shakes
10-30-2006, 07:52 PM
2 BPs for PHM. 1 BP left.

Klaas_nalbandian
10-30-2006, 07:52 PM
jose do something

shakes
10-30-2006, 07:53 PM
2 BPs for PHM. 1 BP left.

Breaks for the set. PHM 6-2 *0-0.

Nitefaery
10-30-2006, 07:53 PM
Break Him Jose!!!!!

j-mAc
10-30-2006, 07:53 PM
deuce

Klaas_nalbandian
10-30-2006, 07:53 PM
break him

Klaas_nalbandian
10-30-2006, 07:54 PM
pfff, so many second serves and still crochus wins his game,

Nitefaery
10-30-2006, 07:54 PM
Wtf Chucho

j-mAc
10-30-2006, 07:54 PM
unbelievable he is really loosing against C. ROCHUS who nearly anyone could beat :(

ReturnWinner
10-30-2006, 07:55 PM
retire losersuso

j-mAc
10-30-2006, 07:55 PM
once chance left.. I doubt crochus will show nerves according to the last games...

coreyschucky
10-30-2006, 07:56 PM
This is it...Rochus serving for the match...Please Chucho..Fight!!!!

Klaas_nalbandian
10-30-2006, 07:56 PM
acasuso wants to go to the beach no other explanation

Nitefaery
10-30-2006, 07:56 PM
Come On Jose!!!

j-mAc
10-30-2006, 07:56 PM
4-5* throw all whatcha got now chucho...

j-mAc
10-30-2006, 07:57 PM
VAAAAAMOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSS

figggghhhhhhhhhttttttttttttttt

fez
10-30-2006, 07:57 PM
hope he pays by losing his singles spot for the davis cup final
disgraceful performance

ReturnWinner
10-30-2006, 07:58 PM
46 76 64 gsm rochus retire losersuso

j-mAc
10-30-2006, 07:58 PM
fez,you watching this game!? is rochus playing that good, or chucho sucking so hard lol

Nitefaery
10-30-2006, 07:58 PM
he's getting killed by rochus 2nd serve!

coreyschucky
10-30-2006, 07:58 PM
15*-0 another 2nd serve

Klaas_nalbandian
10-30-2006, 07:58 PM
again second serve , how can he do this

coreyschucky
10-30-2006, 07:59 PM
30*-0

j-mAc
10-30-2006, 07:59 PM
he doesnt even get a single point on 2nd serve.. so frustrating.. if it wasnt so much money depending from it

coreyschucky
10-30-2006, 07:59 PM
30*-15

superboy2006
10-30-2006, 07:59 PM
Something to remember in times!!! Acasuso has granted match to mr.C.Rochus...

snort
10-30-2006, 07:59 PM
FU Acasuso. This is wrong in so many ways :-P

Klaas_nalbandian
10-30-2006, 08:00 PM
he loves to play second serves

Nitefaery
10-30-2006, 08:00 PM
2 match points off a fuckin 2nd serve

coreyschucky
10-30-2006, 08:00 PM
2 Mps

j-mAc
10-30-2006, 08:00 PM
2 MP, last time i backed this choker

Klaas_nalbandian
10-30-2006, 08:00 PM
good bye 100 dollar

Regenbogen
10-30-2006, 08:01 PM
Rochus won :eek: ...I am so happy :D:D

j-mAc
10-30-2006, 08:01 PM
good bye 100 dollar

only 100, lucky you............

Nitefaery
10-30-2006, 08:02 PM
only 100, lucky you............

ditto

j-mAc
10-30-2006, 08:02 PM
Rochus won :eek: ...I am so happy :D:D

gz, one of the lucky ones who knew about the fixed thingie here :( :worship:

ReturnWinner
10-30-2006, 08:02 PM
retire chokersuso mancini should play instead cagonlleri chokersuso and spit boy chela

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 08:03 PM
Mathieu serving at 1-1 in the second set. 15-0.

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 08:03 PM
30-0.

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 08:04 PM
30-15

fez
10-30-2006, 08:04 PM
Id give chela the singles spot instead of chucho
he cant handle the pressure

case
10-30-2006, 08:04 PM
bgreen- ru seeing the match by any chance?

ReturnWinner
10-30-2006, 08:05 PM
chela is a little better but he is almost the same shit anyway

shakes
10-30-2006, 08:06 PM
Great. PHM blew 2 GPs.

shakes
10-30-2006, 08:07 PM
And now BP for Seppi. 40-15 to 40-A. Unreal.

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 08:11 PM
Mathieu makes me sick.

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 08:11 PM
He needs to break back right here.

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 08:11 PM
2 bps here for Mathieu

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 08:12 PM
Mathieu breaks back thank god. 2-2.

Ome
10-30-2006, 08:12 PM
Come on! :silly:

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 08:12 PM
Mathieu needs to turn it back on right now.

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 08:13 PM
Seppi looks out of it too. And Mathieu is just letting him hang around.

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 08:14 PM
15-15.

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 08:14 PM
30-15.

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 08:15 PM
40-15. Mathieu forced another error from Seppi.

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 08:16 PM
Good hold from Mathieu 3-2.

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 08:37 PM
it's right here, paulo

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 08:37 PM
0-30

2 more

shakes
10-30-2006, 08:37 PM
Score?

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 08:39 PM
mp mathieu

dylan24
10-30-2006, 08:39 PM
mp phm

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 08:39 PM
saved

dylan24
10-30-2006, 08:39 PM
and he blows it

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 08:40 PM
mp#2

dylan24
10-30-2006, 08:40 PM
2nd mp for phm

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 08:40 PM
GSM PHM

expected straight sets win for Paulo :yeah:

dylan24
10-30-2006, 08:40 PM
see you seppi
you clown

dylan24
10-30-2006, 08:40 PM
now lets go you crazy russian and complete my parlay

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 08:42 PM
now lets go you crazy russian and complete my parlay

he will win easily. paris masters is his best tourney.

dylan24
10-30-2006, 08:47 PM
he will win easily. paris masters is his best tourney.

i wanted to bet on safin to win paris
but none of the books i used had line up
because i guess they were wating for federer to make his decision
i hope to be able to get 10/1 on safin tomorrow to win paris

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 08:59 PM
1-0 Safin holds. Mahut serving now

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 09:00 PM
Ace 15-0

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 09:00 PM
15-15.

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 09:01 PM
Ace 30-30.

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 09:02 PM
40-30.

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 09:02 PM
1-1. Both serving really big.

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 09:03 PM
0-15

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 09:04 PM
30-15 Safin.

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 09:04 PM
Ace 40-15.

Bgreen21
10-30-2006, 09:05 PM
2-1 Safin.

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 09:10 PM
mahut will be lucky to win more than 4 games

That tennis kid
10-30-2006, 09:18 PM
Safin BH return winner moves him to *5/1

Bilbo
10-30-2006, 09:19 PM
welcome back to paris, marat

neenah
10-30-2006, 09:19 PM
Grrr the livestream I'm watching keeps stopping :( But I think Safin will win.

silverwhite
10-30-2006, 09:19 PM
Safin's on fire :o

adam_ads_n
10-30-2006, 09:20 PM
Grrr the livestream I'm watching keeps stopping :( But I think Safin will win.

can you give me the link for it?

neenah
10-30-2006, 09:21 PM
Umm It's TVKoo but I'm not sure exactly how to give you the link, it's something I downloaded.. You can try entering "TVKoo" in Google and maybe that will give you the site to download it from? :confused:

Cornincrap
10-30-2006, 09:23 PM
Safin's on fire :o

Wow yeah, he's back.... the old Safin is back.

He might have a chance to win now that federer's gone

adam_ads_n
10-30-2006, 09:25 PM
Umm It's TVKoo but I'm not sure exactly how to give you the link, it's something I downloaded.. You can try entering "TVKoo" in Google and maybe that will give you the site to download it from? :confused:

I have TV Koo - some channels give a lot of tennis (both wta and atp). which channel exactly?

Billabong
10-30-2006, 09:25 PM
Safin clearly always finds his game in this tournament, he's just fantastic:worship:

neenah
10-30-2006, 09:26 PM
I have TV Koo - some channels give a lot of tennis (both wta and atp). which channel exactly?

CCTV 5

neenah
10-30-2006, 09:27 PM
Safin clearly always finds his game in this tournament, he's just fantastic:worship:

Yeah, and he's serving very well.

adam_ads_n
10-30-2006, 09:33 PM
CCTV 5

thx a lot :)

+alonso
10-30-2006, 09:40 PM
Can anyone give me the URL for CCTV5, I have a webpage it used to download the stream to watch after, but It does not open anymore, I would like to know CCTV5 URL


Thanks

Billabong
10-30-2006, 09:58 PM
Marat 6-1, *4-5

Billabong
10-30-2006, 10:09 PM
6-6, tiebreak

Billabong
10-30-2006, 10:11 PM
Tiebreak, Marat has lost most of tiebreaks lately:scared:
Safin-Mahut
4-4*
*4-5

Billabong
10-30-2006, 10:11 PM
Safin *5-5
6-5* match point Marat:D

Billabong
10-30-2006, 10:12 PM
Marat won 6-1, 7-6(5):banana: Well done Marat, keep it up:yeah:

adam_ads_n
10-30-2006, 10:13 PM
Marat :woohoo:

Cornincrap
10-30-2006, 10:16 PM
Go go go go go go Marat Safin!!!!!!!!! grrrreeeeeeeeeennnnnn maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnn nn