Rankings Thread---Betterer than Federer [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

Rankings Thread---Betterer than Federer

Pages : [1] 2

uglyamerican
10-23-2006, 06:41 PM
...........

uglyamerican
10-23-2006, 06:41 PM
.....

Scotso
10-24-2006, 12:41 AM
Cool thread. I hope you're right about him being top ten, but I'd rather him win everything next year. :angel:

savesthedizzle
10-24-2006, 12:42 AM
Oh, I peeked before you said to :p

I like your prediction.. nice b-day present to himself ;)

ezekiel
10-24-2006, 12:53 AM
I don't think there is much to it really . he'll be top 10 after AO if he plays a good warmup , at the very latest after Indian Wells and Miami . Then he's got a whole lot of other points to pick up in Monte Carlo, Rome and Frankfort .

uglyamerican
10-30-2006, 09:11 AM
Nalbandian joins the ranking.

I had Nalbandian making the Semis in Paris, so his withdrawl costs him a lot of points. Now Novak passes him at Hamburg and grabs the 8th seed for RG.


Nalbandian needs to play more tournaments if he wants to keep my prediction from coming true.

Baghdatis's withdrawl moves his date with the chopping block up to Miami Masters week.

uglyamerican
11-02-2006, 09:56 AM
A little more tinkering. I'm now going through RG fortnight. Which puts Berdych and Robredo ahead of Novak, so I can stop worrying about them. But it puts Ljubicic into play (I've got him falling out of the top 10).

I also decided that Gasquet will be ranked #6 after RG.

simpletennis
11-03-2006, 04:40 AM
some math you've done. i certainly hope that's what the ranking's are going to be nxt june. that'd be great

NYCtennisfan
11-05-2006, 05:19 AM
Very interesting thread you have created here. :yeah: I would be very surprised if Djokovic was not in the top 10 before Wimbledon next year.

uglyamerican
01-05-2007, 01:53 AM
An Adelaide final would make up for not going to Zagreb, and keep Novak on track for the top 10 after RG.

Now I'll have to factor Murray in.

savesthedizzle
01-05-2007, 01:58 AM
Good good :)

ezekiel
01-05-2007, 11:35 PM
he should be top 10 soon much to the pain of hateful Jon Wertheim. This person just has me convoluted every time I have msfortune of reading his non substantiated and hollow "article"

He looks to take away any credit from him and slander him when possible. I think he just hates Serbian people since he acts similar to other Serbian players in which case he should be writing for new york times or bbc or any other mainstream western liberal outfit where I can expect that trash and safely ignore it I am so sick of him and his deceptive hate :smash:


more hate disguised as analysis
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/jon_wertheim/06/08/daily.baguette/index.html

he doesn't get mentioned for a breakthrough player lol

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news;_ylt=AvpEEHPshQyZn03SU2WZaVg4v7YF?slug=cnnsi-quiztime&prov=cnnsi&type=lgns



and who made sure that Novak doesn't get mentioned among the teen players during USO last year? I bet Jon had a good smile about it

uglyamerican
01-06-2007, 07:02 AM
Murray is on the chart. They're going to trade back and forth (like they've been doing) for a while, until Novak puts some distance between them in the clay season.

ezekiel
01-06-2007, 07:40 AM
Murray is on the chart. They're going to trade back and forth (like they've been doing) for a while, until Novak puts some distance between them in the clay season.

he should take off before that , got loads of points to pick up at AO and masters events and he looks very confident. His breakthrough will come out very soon

uglyamerican
01-06-2007, 11:39 AM
he should take off before that , got loads of points to pick up at AO and masters events and he looks very confident. His breakthrough will come out very soon

I think both will start doing very well, but Novak will do very well on clay also. Something Mr. Murray does not seem capable of.

Novak Dj
01-07-2007, 08:27 AM
Nole is on his career best, only 4 steps from top ten and has nothing to defend on AU open and 5 tournaments so he is in very good position according to http://www.atptennis.com/5/en/players/playerprofiles/?playernumber=D643 , but they told his surname is pronounced jokovich and he is 177 cm short :rolleyes: so I`m not sure... ;)

uglyamerican
01-12-2007, 08:07 AM
Considering Baghdatis drew into the Federer section, too. Novak should pass him in the post-AO rankings.

savesthedizzle
01-12-2007, 02:43 PM
Considering Baghdatis drew into the Federer section, too. Novak should pass him in the post-AO rankings.

Now that's some good news :yeah:

uglyamerican
01-17-2007, 08:59 PM
:wavey: Baghdatis

uglyamerican
01-27-2007, 02:30 PM
Well, Novak will briefly see a career best 13th in the rankings this Monday, before losing one spot to idle Andy Murray as Nole's Zagreb points are replaced with his next best result (25 points @ Vienna).

Not much action for the next two weeks, as only Ljubicic is playing going into the Davis Cup week.

MilanDokic
01-27-2007, 11:36 PM
Novak had a great press conference in Belgrade on Saturday, 27th January 2007:

Novak Djokovic: "I'm ready for Top 10!"

Serbian prodigy Novak Djokovic has tipped world number one Roger Federer to reign the men's ATP tour for a long time and easily retain his Australian Open title in Sunday's final against Chile's Fernando Gonzalez.

"I can't see Gonzalez winning the match although I am sure he will fight hard to give Federer a good run for his money," world number 13 Djokovic told a news conference in Belgrade on Saturday upon his return from Melbourne.

"Federer is virtually invincible and I think he will rule men's tennis for years to come, it will take a monumental effort to depose him," said Djokovic, who was brushed aside by the defending champion in straight sets in the fourth round.

"I think I would have stood a decent chance of progressing to the latter stages of the tournament if I had been drawn against anyone else.

"Federer is too strong and too quick for everyone, he has mastered every shot in tennis to perfection. We have to remind ourselves when we play against him that he too is only human."

Djokovic was reasonably happy with his performances in the tournament and said he was looking forward to a season in which he expects to break into the top 10.

"That's my basic goal this season. I have improved over the past two years but I have to keep working hard to compete with the world's best players at this level.

"I am also hopeful that Serbia can break into the Davis Cup world group this season. I will definitely play for my country in the competition and I think we have a very good chance."

Novak Dj
01-29-2007, 11:47 AM
So, he is officially No13. Congrats Nole. :worship:

On the race list he is No7 (with a couple of players), so we should follow this list to see does Nole have chances for Shanghai...

PennyThePenguin
01-29-2007, 11:58 AM
he's making great progress to the top!!! don't points come off this week for zagreb though? how much would it affect his ranking? or is this post-deducting-zagreb-points? or am I just totally confused?

uglyamerican
01-29-2007, 01:42 PM
he's making great progress to the top!!! don't points come off this week for zagreb though? how much would it affect his ranking? or is this post-deducting-zagreb-points? or am I just totally confused?

Look at my post above Milan's.;)

uglyamerican
01-29-2007, 01:43 PM
On the race list he is No7 (with a couple of players), so we should follow this list to see does Nole have chances for Shanghai...

I've got my eye on it.:cool:

PennyThePenguin
01-29-2007, 01:53 PM
ah ok. thought i saw it somewhere. thanks!!! i'm a confused soul.

Novak Dj
01-29-2007, 05:36 PM
I've got my eye on it.:cool:

I have no doubt. :wavey: ;)

kobulingam
02-04-2007, 09:07 PM
Novak had a great press conference in Belgrade on Saturday, 27th January 2007:

Novak Djokovic: "I'm ready for Top 10!"

Serbian prodigy Novak Djokovic has tipped world number one Roger Federer to reign the men's ATP tour for a long time and easily retain his Australian Open title in Sunday's final against Chile's Fernando Gonzalez.

"I can't see Gonzalez winning the match although I am sure he will fight hard to give Federer a good run for his money," world number 13 Djokovic told a news conference in Belgrade on Saturday upon his return from Melbourne.

"Federer is virtually invincible and I think he will rule men's tennis for years to come, it will take a monumental effort to depose him," said Djokovic, who was brushed aside by the defending champion in straight sets in the fourth round.

"I think I would have stood a decent chance of progressing to the latter stages of the tournament if I had been drawn against anyone else.

"Federer is too strong and too quick for everyone, he has mastered every shot in tennis to perfection. We have to remind ourselves when we play against him that he too is only human."

Djokovic was reasonably happy with his performances in the tournament and said he was looking forward to a season in which he expects to break into the top 10.

"That's my basic goal this season. I have improved over the past two years but I have to keep working hard to compete with the world's best players at this level.

"I am also hopeful that Serbia can break into the Davis Cup world group this season. I will definitely play for my country in the competition and I think we have a very good chance."


Smart strategy by Novak. If he continues to get under Federer's skin, he will continue to get straight setted by Fed. His best chance is to start admiring Fed in the media.

Luka Matic
02-08-2007, 12:36 PM
He will be top ten after IW and Key Biscayne :yeah:

uglyamerican
02-12-2007, 06:32 AM
Novak will overtake Murray this week if either of the following happen:

1--Murray fails to win the title in San Jose
OR
2--Novak makes the SF in Marseille

In other news this week...

--Berdych's withdrawl from Marseille moves the "finish line" up three weeks, to just after Hamburg.

--I originall predicted Novak to make the final, but I didn't predict any points for Rotterdam, so a good result in either tournament would be acceptable.

uglyamerican
02-14-2007, 05:54 PM
We're back to--top ten after RG. This week only Murray is left to mess up my chart, and he won't cause major issues.

uglyamerican
02-25-2007, 10:33 PM
A sleepy week with only Berdych and possibly Novak playing.

uglyamerican
02-28-2007, 06:02 PM
Back ahead of Murray, now.

savesthedizzle
02-28-2007, 11:42 PM
YAYYYY let me go tell Adam the news. :rolls:

uglyamerican
03-01-2007, 06:00 PM
If Ancic is out for IW, that makes Nole overtaking Murray HUGE for IW draw.

If another higher seed goes out, then it's no big deal.

Scotso
03-02-2007, 01:17 AM
Nole is doing well, but he's being outshined this year by people like Misha.

I want him to be top 10 by Roland Garros.

Novak Dj
03-02-2007, 07:00 PM
Mario is out of probably whole clay season, so it means Nole will be better than Mario very soon... Nole is so close to top10, maybe after Miami. :devil:

uglyamerican
03-03-2007, 07:26 AM
RACE update:

before play on Saturday 3 March

1 Federer-----242*
2 Haas--------175
3 Gonzalez----148
4 Youzhny-----144*
5 Roddick-----140
6 Murray------122
7 Ljubicic----110
8 Davydenko---102
9 Djokovic----102

*=still alive in a tournament

ezekiel
03-03-2007, 10:57 AM
his road to top 10 is virtually cleared with Ancic and Nalbandian not playing basically and Berdych sucking very much. But still he needs and could pick a whole lot of points here in IW/Miami

ezekiel
03-03-2007, 02:52 PM
Nole is doing well, but he's being outshined this year by people like Misha.

I want him to be top 10 by Roland Garros.

he only lost to Federer x2 and Youzhny x2 and 3 of those matches were very close especially against Youzhny where he was leading most of time.

Scotso
03-03-2007, 11:33 PM
I meant they're getting the attention. Misha, for instance, is the shit lately.

ezekiel
03-04-2007, 02:02 PM
To achieve top 10 in IW , he needs to reach final in IW and Nalbandian to be out R16 or earlier.
Last year he lost to Bennetau pretty easy in the 1st round :o so I hesitate to think too much ahead ;)

Isn't it time he started playing really well in Masters events :D they carry so much points and he can pick up a whole load of them to improve his ranking

ezekiel
03-04-2007, 02:07 PM
I meant they're getting the attention. Misha, for instance, is the shit lately.

Ok but Nole has lost only to 2 hottest players right now . His time is coming but haters are starting very early in GM and media also so I am mindful of that :(

uglyamerican
03-04-2007, 03:19 PM
To achieve top 10 in IW , he needs to reach final in IW and Nalbandian to be out R16 or earlier.
Last year he lost to Bennetau pretty easy in the 1st round :o so I hesitate to think too much ahead ;)


or get to the SF and have Nalbandian lose in his first match.


to get to top 10 after Miami he needs the following in the 2 tournaments.

--3 wins ( to catch Ancic)
--1 more win than Nalbandian
--equal results with Berdych and Murray

ezekiel
03-04-2007, 08:26 PM
thanks for putting it like that. Top 10 is very near and so many points to pick until RG in all the masters :cool:

ezekiel
03-06-2007, 01:32 PM
Nalby is out
http://www.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,14-1254472,00.html

NikolaBGD
03-06-2007, 04:04 PM
It's very important for Nole to make good result on IW and Miami...

That wiil rise him to Top10 instant.

It's interesting how career of Murray and Nole looks similar, both born in May 1987, they are neck-to-neck on the list quite of time, good friends, same tactics on court...

They fight for No1 after Federer!

uglyamerican
03-06-2007, 09:15 PM
same tactics on court...


I hope not.:o

ezekiel
03-06-2007, 09:26 PM
Nalby is back in, can't trust british media :mad:

uglyamerican
03-06-2007, 09:30 PM
Nalby is back in, can't trust british media :mad:

Not SKY. BBC didn't have it on it's website.

uglyamerican
03-11-2007, 08:48 PM
UPDATE:

Russell d. Berdych !!!

Scotso
03-12-2007, 03:52 AM
Tomas is awful lately. Awful.

ezekiel
03-12-2007, 02:10 PM
top 10 is very near, let's not forget that Nalby is defending semis in Miami and Ljubicic a final . I may be optimistic but you may have to rename this thread as top 5 attack by the clay season :p

uglyamerican
03-14-2007, 10:30 PM
to get to top 10 after Miami he needs the following in the 2 tournaments.

--3 wins ( to catch Ancic)
--1 more win than Nalbandian
--equal results with Berdych and Murray

#1 accomplished :D

RACE update:

1 Federer-----261
2 Haas--------190*
3 Roddick-----165*
4 Gonzalez----163*
5 Murray------147*
6 Youzhny-----145
7 Ljubicic----135*
8 Djokovic----127*

savesthedizzle
03-14-2007, 10:57 PM
Andy Murray is a pesky shadow. How dare he beat Davydenko and continute to follow Novak up the rankings. :lol:

jennyian
03-15-2007, 03:47 AM
^Did they play each other yet?

This is the first year i've been following him, was totally impressed with his Aussie showing. I think he will win several GS!

I love him! :D

uglyamerican
03-15-2007, 07:31 AM
^Did they play each other yet?

This is the first year i've been following him, was totally impressed with his Aussie showing. I think he will win several GS!

I love him! :D

Yes. They played in Madrid last fall. Novak won the match in three sets even though they won the exact same number of points in the match.

jennyian
03-15-2007, 10:57 AM
^Ah good, thanks for the answer.

Personally i think Novak is a better player. Possible world number 1 after Roger. :worship:

uglyamerican
03-18-2007, 12:49 AM
I don't think there is much to it really . he'll be top 10 after AO if he plays a good warmup , at the very latest after Indian Wells and Miami . Then he's got a whole lot of other points to pick up in Monte Carlo, Rome and Frankfort .

:yeah: You were closer than I was.


What should we focus on next?:

--The RACE
--#1 player in the Balkans ;)
--getting to the top 8 as soon as possible
--best possible Roland Garros seed

Saumon
03-18-2007, 01:00 AM
Mission Accomplished!

:yippee: :yippee: :dance: :aparty: :worship:

Anne-Claire
03-18-2007, 01:07 AM
:woohoo: :banana: WELL DONE NOLE :rocker2: :worship:

ezekiel
03-18-2007, 01:20 AM
:yeah: You were closer than I was.


What should we focus on next?:

--The RACE
--#1 player in the Balkans ;)
--getting to the top 8 as soon as possible
--best possible Roland Garros seed

top 5 , that's obvious and let me state it boldly, it shall be accomplished before RG :worship:

ezekiel
03-18-2007, 01:22 AM
:yippee: :yippee: :dance: :aparty: :worship:

:bigclap: :worship: :p :yeah: :yippee: :rocker2: :aparty: :tennis: :armed: :banana: :rocker: :crazy: :dance: :bowdown:

PennyThePenguin
03-18-2007, 01:29 AM
:woohoo: :woohoo: :worship: :aparty: :yeah: :rocker: :rocker2: :dance: :banana:

savesthedizzle
03-18-2007, 01:33 AM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhh!

jennyian
03-18-2007, 01:51 AM
Possible Top 5 by year's end!

I wish him all the best against Nadal!!!

Go Nole! :rocker:

Scotso
03-18-2007, 02:26 AM
:banana:

Nole in the top ten :woohoo:

Schweeeeet.

uglyamerican
03-18-2007, 02:28 AM
Finalist gets 250,000 dollars US. That's nice.

savesthedizzle
03-18-2007, 02:59 AM
Novak should buy us each a present with that money :)

Bj÷rki
03-18-2007, 10:15 AM
:banana:

Nathy
03-18-2007, 11:45 AM
:woohoo: CONGRATS NOLE :woohoo:

Maya_4
03-18-2007, 12:24 PM
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :bounce: :crazy: :banana: :rocker2:


:worship: A J D E N O L E:worship:

poiree
03-18-2007, 12:28 PM
[QUOTE=jennyian;5049810]Possible Top 5 by year's end!

QUOTE]

Actually, he should have already entered the top 5 in the race!


SO... :umbrella:

Let's go on the Masters!!!

:aparty: :crazy: :clap2:



P.S
(not that I am fond of the round robin format... but it's ok as long as it stays for the Masters, and only there)

jennyian
03-18-2007, 01:46 PM
^Top 5 in the race!

Top 5 in the rankings hopefully! :D

uglyamerican
03-18-2007, 10:46 PM
top 5 , that's obvious and let me state it boldly, it shall be accomplished before RG :worship:

Haas, Blake, Ljubicic, Robredo are all possible to overtake. That would move Novak up to 6th. Davydenko or Gonzalez are harder to reach.

ezekiel
03-19-2007, 03:05 AM
Haas, Blake, Ljubicic, Robredo are all possible to overtake. That would move Novak up to 6th. Davydenko or Gonzalez are harder to reach.

He will need exceptional performance in those clay events to get top 5 but its possible especially with high rankings.

As far as Miami , I think he passes or about equal to Haas, Blake and Ljubicic in safe points so if he goes farther than them then he may be up to 7 after Miami . It's very interesting, he can only go up until RG

uglyamerican
03-19-2007, 03:12 AM
He will need exceptional performance in those clay events to get top 5 but its possible especially with high rankings.

As far as Miami , I think he passes or about equal to Haas, Blake and Ljubicic in safe points so if he goes farther than them then he may be up to 7 after Miami . It's very interesting, he can only go up until RG

Let me get out my Miami chart.

minus the Miami points we have:

Blake-----------2145
Haas------------2130
Ljubicic--------2045
Djokovic--------2040
Murray----------1900

ezekiel
03-19-2007, 04:11 AM
Let me get out my Miami chart.

minus the Miami points we have:

Blake-----------2145
Haas------------2130
Ljubicic--------2045
Djokovic--------2040
Murray----------1900

Ok I was close, I think it's doable with a semi at least




Ok I was close, I think it's doable with a semi at least

belco
03-19-2007, 09:12 AM
:woohoo: Go Noleeeeeeee

Grofica
03-19-2007, 10:27 AM
Novak :hug:

Novak Dj
03-19-2007, 11:38 AM
:worship:

Saumon
03-19-2007, 12:42 PM
I had to save this :hearts:

savesthedizzle
03-19-2007, 02:00 PM
:dance:

Nathy
03-19-2007, 08:56 PM
:rocker2:

uglyamerican
03-23-2007, 09:01 PM
If Novak makes the QF he will pass Blake.

....and Haas, also.

ezekiel
03-24-2007, 06:25 PM
With Blake and Haas already out and Ljubi on the brink , Nole is closing in on the 7th rank :D

ezekiel
03-24-2007, 06:27 PM
If Novak makes the QF he will pass Blake.

....and Haas, also.

yep and with Llodra and Serra/Lopez as opponents it's very doable

Saumon
03-26-2007, 07:47 PM
Nole is the Most Improved Player of 2006 :D

The Serbian compiled his best season by capturing two ATP titles (Amersfoort, Metz) in three finals and finishing as the youngest player in year-end Top 20. he also made a breakthrough in Grand Slam play with a quarterfinal showing at Roland Garros. Djokovic led the ATP circuit with a 19-5 tie-break record.

:aparty:

Anne-Claire
03-26-2007, 08:20 PM
totally deserved!!!! Congrats Nole :banana: :bigclap:

Nathy
03-27-2007, 07:49 PM
:woohoo: Congrats Nole!!

uglyamerican
03-28-2007, 01:34 AM
8th place can only be stopped by Murray making the final.

savesthedizzle
03-28-2007, 01:52 AM
Squee!!!!!!

Scotso
03-28-2007, 02:41 AM
Murray will hopefully lost tomorrow.

Nole :banana:

ezekiel
03-28-2007, 04:17 AM
I put my money on Ljubicic and Murray losing the next match but Nole has to do his part . Ljubicic leads by only 5 ponts

Saumon
03-28-2007, 11:44 AM
He'll be 7th if he does better than Ljubo, right? :banana:

savesthedizzle
03-28-2007, 02:00 PM
He'll be 7th if he does better than Ljubo, right? :banana:

Yup, he trails Ljubo by only 5 ranking points ;)

uglyamerican
03-28-2007, 05:09 PM
Yup, he trails Ljubo by only 5 ranking points ;)

Just keeping it close will help, because Ljubo has 125 to defend in MC.

Scotso
03-28-2007, 10:20 PM
Hopefully lost? lol.

uglyamerican
03-29-2007, 03:04 AM
SF winner will be #2 in the RACE :eek:

Murray would need to win the whole tourney to catch Nole in the entry ranking.

Scotso
03-29-2007, 03:16 AM
Hopefully he will win it all. :banana:

savesthedizzle
03-29-2007, 03:20 AM
SF winner will be #2 in the RACE :eek:

Murray would need to win the whole tourney to catch Nole in the entry ranking.

:eek:

Saumon
03-29-2007, 05:40 AM
The young guns are taking over. :rocker2:
:wavey: Roger.

richie21 must be so pissed off. :haha:

savesthedizzle
03-29-2007, 05:48 AM
The young guns are taking over. :rocker2:
:wavey: Roger.

richie21 must be so pissed off. :haha:

Hahahahahahahhahaha. :rolls:

Scotso
03-29-2007, 05:57 PM
Most of the board is pissed off. They just hate it when their sure-things go down in flames.

Scotso
04-01-2007, 02:11 AM
So he is! #7 :worship:

#3 is well within reach.

CassL
04-01-2007, 02:42 AM
He'll for sure take over Gonzalez since the diff is only 85 pts. Davydenko is more difficult since he seems pretty solid on everything.

Novak Dj
04-04-2007, 03:24 PM
March 5th
entry list: 13. Djokovic 1715
race list: 8. Djokovic 102
prize money: 10. Djokovic 234,265
difference between Nole and No1: 6495

April 2nd
entry list: 7. Djokovic 2540
race list: 2. Djokovic 272 (he had 276 in whole 2006. :eek: )
prize money: 2. Djokovic 1,019,365
difference between Nole and No1: 4750 :devil:

Great month for Nole. :worship:

adynadal
04-04-2007, 06:29 PM
a little addition from me:
March 5th
entry list: 13. Djokovic 1715
race list: 8. Djokovic 102
prize money: 10. Djokovic 234,265
difference between Nole and No1: 6495
fans:hundreds

April 2nd
entry list: 7. Djokovic 2540
race list: 2. Djokovic 272 (he had 276 in whole 2006. :eek: )
prize money: 2. Djokovic 1,019,365
difference between Nole and No1: 4750 :devil:
fans:thousands:p

Great month for Nole. :worship:

uglyamerican
04-15-2007, 02:22 AM
When Judio's new ranking updates on Monday it will look like this....

3 Roddick-----2980
4 Davydenko----2820
5 Gonzalez----2530
6 Robredo----2520
7 Djokovic----2520


Robredo would have the tie-breaker edge in any tie situation with Novak.

The only way Novak could be caught from below is if Ljubicic or Murray win the whole MC tournament.

Scotso
04-16-2007, 03:06 AM
What is the tiebreaker? Number of tournaments played? That's how it is and it's stupid, because the person with more points from less tournaments should be the one to get the higher position, but they give it to the person who plays more. :p

#5 is well within reach. I mean, #3 is, too, but just a few points for #5. That would kick ass.

savesthedizzle
04-16-2007, 03:08 AM
What is the tiebreaker? Number of tournaments played? That's how it is and it's stupid, because the person with more points from less tournaments should be the one to get the higher position, but they give it to the person who plays more. :p

#5 is well within reach. I mean, #3 is, too, but just a few points for #5. That would kick ass.

Holy crap. I didn't realize how close things would be :inlove: Sooooo close :D

ataptc
04-16-2007, 06:03 AM
What is the tiebreaker? Number of tournaments played? That's how it is and it's stupid, because the person with more points from less tournaments should be the one to get the higher position, but they give it to the person who plays more. :p
That's a :retard: rule

Yeah the points difference are really close :yeah:

uglyamerican
04-16-2007, 09:04 AM
What is the tiebreaker? Number of tournaments played? That's how it is and it's stupid, because the person with more points from less tournaments should be the one to get the higher position, but they give it to the person who plays more. :p

#5 is well within reach. I mean, #3 is, too, but just a few points for #5. That would kick ass.

The first tie-breaker is most points in Slams and Masterses.

The second tie-breaker is fewest tournaments played. :p

I can't believe you had that backwards. You know more about tennis than I do.

Scotso
04-16-2007, 10:19 PM
I meant that's how it is on the WTA tour. It wouldn't have made sense for me to ask and then give the answer. :p

uglyamerican
04-18-2007, 11:11 AM
Only 135 points difference between Davydenko and Novak (under my formula thing). See first post in this thread if you are confused.

savesthedizzle
04-18-2007, 12:04 PM
Gonzo would lose a fair amount of points if Andreev can pull it off :)

Saumon
04-18-2007, 01:21 PM
Igor won :p

PennyThePenguin
04-18-2007, 01:53 PM
:woohoo:

CassL
04-18-2007, 03:17 PM
And Davydenko also lost so he won't be gaining any pts. :devil:

silverwhite
04-18-2007, 03:52 PM
I believe Gonzo's loss today means that Nole will move up to #6 in the projected rankings :yeah:

adynadal
04-18-2007, 06:28 PM
I believe Gonzo's loss today means that Nole will move up to #6 in the projected rankings :yeah:


especially after Djoke beats Rog in the quarters! ;) :p

Scotso
04-18-2007, 07:34 PM
*sings*

movin' on up!

uglyamerican
04-18-2007, 07:53 PM
I believe Gonzo's loss today means that Nole will move up to #6 in the projected rankings :yeah:

It's true. :D

Scotso
04-19-2007, 04:10 AM
So I assume if Tommy loses tomorrow and Nole wins, Nole will be 5? I love you Tommy.... but I'll be cheering for Tomas even more :o

uglyamerican
04-19-2007, 12:13 PM
Novak stands a decent chance of getting the 5 spot next week, without playing.

Saumon
04-19-2007, 12:33 PM
He and Robredo have the same amount of points right now, right?

Scotso
04-19-2007, 05:15 PM
Novak stands a decent chance of getting the 5 spot next week, without playing.

Explain, rankings mage. :p ;)

uglyamerican
04-19-2007, 09:17 PM
Explain, rankings mage. :p ;)

okay.

Robredo will be defending a final from Barcelona '06. He'll need to reach the final again to avoid losing points.

Gonzalez is not playing this week and everybody else more than 300 points behind Nole.

Scotso
04-20-2007, 02:59 AM
Sweet. So in other words, Nole is going to be #5 after next week, because I don't see Robredo making the finals again.

Novak Dj
04-20-2007, 07:35 AM
Sweet. So in other words, Nole is going to be #5 after next week, because I don't see Robredo making the finals again.

That will be great, especially if Roddick doesn`t come to play Rome and Hamburg, so Nole could be 4th seed. :eek:

savesthedizzle
04-20-2007, 12:05 PM
That will be great, especially if Roddick doesn`t come to play Rome and Hamburg, so Nole could be 4th seed. :eek:

Ooooh that's right. That would be really nice. No Rog/Rafa til semis :D

ataptc
04-20-2007, 02:12 PM
I'm the only one here who likes Roddick too :awww:

ezekiel
04-20-2007, 03:25 PM
I was hoping for a better showing in MC but he still has a great chance for #4 seed for RG. He'll have to pass Davydenko who is in a slump right, I think he'll need at least a semi final in Rome or Hamburg

uglyamerican
04-20-2007, 09:39 PM
I'm the only one here who likes Roddick too :awww:

I like him.

Scotso
04-21-2007, 02:43 AM
I'm the only one here who likes Roddick too :awww:

Yes.



I like him.

You're confused.

marina988
04-21-2007, 09:08 AM
I'm the only one here who likes Roddick too :awww:
You're not the only one! I also like Roddick! But i like Nole more!!!!!! :) :) :) :angel:

Scotso
04-21-2007, 01:45 PM
No more Roddick love in Nole's forum :mad: :p

marina988
04-23-2007, 09:11 PM
Sorry!:) Sometimes i just get carried away!!!
Go NOLEEEE!!! NOLEEEEE!!!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :angel:

Jelena_78
04-26-2007, 07:05 PM
Robredo lost today (R16),so Nole will be no.5 next week!!!:) :bigclap: :dance:

uglyamerican
04-26-2007, 07:33 PM
#5 is great!!! Not many people have made the top 5 before their 20th birthday:

Nadal-----#2
Becker-----#2
Borg-------#3
Agassi-----#3
McEnroe-----#4
Wilander-----#4
Medvedev----#4
Arias-------#5
Edberg------#5
Sampras-----#5
Chang-------#5
Djokovic------#5

uglyamerican
04-26-2007, 08:11 PM
A little help from Mr. Canas, again please. Davydenko doesn't need any more points. :wavey:

ezekiel
04-26-2007, 08:13 PM
even I am surprised :p

at least we don't make threads in GM when Nole moves up due to other players losses :o

Anne-Claire
04-26-2007, 08:24 PM
Great :yeah: thx boredo :)

PennyThePenguin
04-27-2007, 12:17 AM
:woohoo:

savesthedizzle
04-27-2007, 02:09 AM
Tommy :tape:

Yayyyy Novak :D

CassL
04-27-2007, 02:55 AM
Man, I hope Nole passes Davydenko before FO so that he can avoid meeting Roger/Rafa in the quarters again.

Scotso
04-27-2007, 04:12 AM
Top 5 :woohoo:

Congrats Nole! :worship:

Scotso
04-27-2007, 04:12 AM
Man, I hope Nole passes Davydenko before FO so that he can avoid meeting Roger/Rafa in the quarters again.

That would be nice. But it needs to be said that he didn't even make it that far in MC, so we might need to focus on his early matches first. :tape:

silverwhite
04-27-2007, 11:29 AM
:banana:

ataptc
04-27-2007, 01:09 PM
#5 is great!!! Not many people have made the top 5 before their 20th birthday:

Nadal-----#2
Becker-----#2
Borg-------#3
Agassi-----#3
McEnroe-----#4
Wilander-----#4
Medvedev----#4
Arias-------#5
Edberg------#5
Sampras-----#5
Chang-------#5
Djokovic------#5
:yeah:

marina988
04-28-2007, 06:16 PM
Go NOLE!!!!!!! :)

Ranko
05-05-2007, 08:08 AM
I heard people saying how Djokovic is not defending any points in Rome, because he lost in the qualifications last year, so just to inform thise people, so they don't get confused that because he didn't get into Rome last year he had a sixth of "other" tournaments counted in his ranking, so he'll be defending the points which he got in that tournament.

Depending on what he does in Estoril he'll be defending from 90 to 110 points in Rome. If he beats Robredo today it will be 110, otherwise it will be 90.

Cheers!

uglyamerican
05-11-2007, 05:27 PM
Assuming Davydenko loses to Nadal tomorrow, the difference between him and Novak will be 145 points (when '06 Hamburg points are removed).

So at Hamburg

If Davydenko...----------Novak needs____to catch him

Loses his first match-----------to reach the SF
Wins one match------------------to reach the SF
Reaches QF----------------------to reach the F
Reaches SF----------------------to WIN the tournament

It seems difficult, but not impossible with a #4 seed for Novak.

Also, if Novak gets to the Finals he would overtake Roddick!

Scotso
05-11-2007, 07:58 PM
Let's hope he makes the finals then, and Nikolay loses at or before the QF.

kirkicica
05-12-2007, 06:52 PM
he ahs to make some good results in hamburg. If I'm not wrong Nole will be #6 on monday. :(

uglyamerican
05-12-2007, 07:39 PM
he ahs to make some good results in hamburg. If I'm not wrong Nole will be #6 on monday. :(

It's true, Gonzo sneaked in there. He's 25 points ahead of Novak now, but has 25 more points to defend in Hamburg. Novak needs to go one round better than Gonzo to jump back ahead of him.

Scotso
05-13-2007, 01:17 AM
Gonzo is not a big concern. He'll have these good weeks once in a while, but he's far too inconsistant still to maintain a high ranking, imo. Right now it's about the big picture... making sure he goes deep into events and such. If he keeps up his current trend, he'll be #3 by the end of the year.

ataptc
05-13-2007, 03:43 PM
Can I ask how does Nole match up on grass?

uglyamerican
05-13-2007, 07:55 PM
Can I ask how does Nole match up on grass?

It so hard to tell with young players, because the sample size is so small.

I think he should do well on grass over the course of his career. His volleys have gotten a lot better.

uglyamerican
05-13-2007, 07:55 PM
Serbia has 3 players in the top 10 (men and women combined). I think only Russia has more.

savesthedizzle
05-14-2007, 01:00 AM
Can I ask how does Nole match up on grass?

He's done relatively well at Wimbledon in the past, I want to say third round and R16 the last two years? And that's when he wasn't the player he is now. It's hard to say since he plays on it so little, but he's not a clown on it by any means. :)

ataptc
05-14-2007, 03:57 AM
That's good to hear :)

Scotso
05-14-2007, 12:55 PM
He should have beaten Ancic, too :mad:

Novak Dj
05-14-2007, 07:04 PM
Serbia has 3 players in the top 10 (men and women combined). I think only Russia has more.

Nobody could expect that only 3-4 years ago. Unbelievible.

marina988
05-14-2007, 08:06 PM
Nobody could expect that only 3-4 years ago. Unbelievible.and serbia is such a small country to have such amazing players who are in the top 10!Look how big russia is! :)

kirkicica
05-14-2007, 10:37 PM
Can we count Zimonjic too? It's in doubles but still.... ;)

adynadal
05-15-2007, 09:33 AM
Can we count Zimonjic too? It's in doubles but still.... ;)

sure!!!!!!!!!!!Nenad is a great player,one of the greatest for the last few years!no doubt about this-if he wasn`t that great he wouldn`t have been chosen by Santoro!!!:worship: :worship: :worship:

savesthedizzle
05-15-2007, 12:36 PM
I love Zimonjic :hearts: I observed a situation in Cincinnati last year that just really made me like him a lot :yeah: He's a good guy, so I say we count him. :lol:

uglyamerican
05-17-2007, 05:10 PM
Today, May 17th, Novak played his 42nd match of the year.
Last year Novak played his 42nd match in the Amersfoort SF on 22 July

Novak won his 34th & 35th tour-level matches, today.
Last year he won his 35th match in the Metz SF on 7 October!

Novak won his 6th TB in a row (against Benneteau). His longest career streak is 9, set last summer.

Scotso
05-17-2007, 05:15 PM
He likes the TBs.

Tennis-Chick
05-17-2007, 06:31 PM
Today, May 17th, Novak played his 42nd match of the year.
Last year Novak played his 42nd match in the Amersfoort SF on 22 July

Novak won his 34th & 35th tour-level matches, today.
Last year he won his 35th match in the Metz SF on 7 October!

Novak won his 6th TB in a row (against Benneteau). His longest career streak is 9, set last summer.

Shows how much he has improved over the past year!

Ranko
05-17-2007, 06:58 PM
If Novak beats Moya, and Gonzalez loses to Nadal tomorrow, Djokovic is going to be no.3 in the world and 3rd seed on Roland Gaross.

marina988
05-17-2007, 08:55 PM
If Novak beats Moya, and Gonzalez loses to Nadal tomorrow, Djokovic is going to be no.3 in the world and 3rd seed on Roland Gaross.I had no idea! Thanks for the information!!!! GO NOLE!!!! You can do it! :) :) :) :) :) :rocker:

uglyamerican
05-17-2007, 11:47 PM
If Novak beats Moya, and Gonzalez loses to Nadal tomorrow, Djokovic is going to be no.3 in the world and 3rd seed on Roland Gaross.

You corrected yourself in GM. It's #4 if he wins tomorrow, and #3 if he makes the Final. ;)

Scotso
05-18-2007, 02:37 AM
You corrected yourself in GM. It's #4 if he wins tomorrow, and #3 if he makes the Final. ;)

I really want him to make the final, then. #3 would be amazing.

jeahhh!
05-18-2007, 04:11 AM
That would be awesome

ataptc
05-18-2007, 09:39 AM
Today, May 17th, Novak played his 42nd match of the year.
Last year Novak played his 42nd match in the Amersfoort SF on 22 July

Novak won his 34th & 35th tour-level matches, today.
Last year he won his 35th match in the Metz SF on 7 October!

Novak won his 6th TB in a row (against Benneteau). His longest career streak is 9, set last summer.
Major improvement to say the least :yeah:

Scotso
05-18-2007, 04:52 PM
Oh well.

He'll still get to #3, it's just going to take a bit longer. He has quite a few points to defend through the next few months, so hopefully he gets some much needed rest and comes back ready to battle.

adynadal
05-18-2007, 06:09 PM
Oh well.

He'll still get to #3, it's just going to take a bit longer. He has quite a few points to defend through the next few months, so hopefully he gets some much needed rest and comes back ready to battle.

100% Agreed!!!;)
but isn`t Nole gonna get in front of Davydenko and get 5th on Monday at least?:awww:

uglyamerican
05-18-2007, 10:12 PM
but isn`t Nole gonna get in front of Davydenko and get 5th on Monday at least?:awww:

No. Check out the first post in this thread for more info.

Tennis-Chick
05-18-2007, 10:37 PM
Aww well, he's gonna be #3 in the world soon anyway, maybe it was good he lost today so he could prepare for RG and get loads of rest to go far there :D

uglyamerican
05-29-2007, 06:04 PM
Stepanek def. Gonzalez 6-2, 6-2, 6-4.

ataptc
05-29-2007, 06:23 PM
:)

Scotso
05-29-2007, 06:47 PM
Good that Gonzo is out. How many points is Nikolay defending here?

natashha
05-29-2007, 06:51 PM
How many points is Nikolay defending here?

Last year he lost in QF, so that would be 250, I think.
Just like Novak.

Scotso
05-29-2007, 07:47 PM
Well that's not bad, since Nole is going to win the title.

uglyamerican
05-29-2007, 08:02 PM
Novak needs the QF to catch Gonzo, and to go one round farther than Davydenko to catch him.

Scotso
05-29-2007, 11:12 PM
That's doable.

Farenhajt
05-30-2007, 04:29 AM
Right now the most serious obstacle appears to be 4th round with David Ferrer, who already got him in Monte Carlo in straight sets... though Verdasco could upset Ferrer.

On the other hand, Davydenko could face serious 3rd round problems with Almagro, who got him in Rome this year, admittedly after Davydenko surrendering the match.

Scotso
05-30-2007, 10:30 AM
Nole should have won that match against Ferrer.

Farenhajt
05-30-2007, 11:04 AM
Nole should have won that match against Ferrer.

Personally, I consider "did" and "should've" to be quite different things. Career and success are made of did's, not of should've's.

But of course, we all expect ever more did's and ever less should've's from Nole in the months and years to come :)

Scotso
05-30-2007, 11:35 AM
My point is that Nole is a better player than Ferrer, so he should win when they play.

Farenhajt
05-30-2007, 11:54 AM
Higher-ranking he is, though not by very far (#6 against #14), and I definitely wouldn't so readily dismiss Ferrer's chances on clay. Look what happened to Gonzalez (#5) by far-lower-ranking Stepanek (#58).

marina988
05-30-2007, 05:46 PM
We should all just believe in Nole!!!!!!
And if he does the same thing and plays the best he can, who knows,he'll win the title!!!!
Am i being tooooooo positive? :) :) :) :)

marina988
05-30-2007, 05:48 PM
maybe

savesthedizzle
05-30-2007, 10:27 PM
We should all just believe in Nole!!!!!!
And if he does the same thing and plays the best he can, who knows,he'll win the title!!!!
Am i being tooooooo positive? :) :) :) :)

No such thing in this forum as too positive ;)

Scotso
05-31-2007, 02:20 AM
I think he can win the title, too.

Farenhajt
05-31-2007, 06:43 AM
We're all very positive about Nole here - if we weren't, we wouldn't be on this message board, right? :) But believing in him doesn't imply we can't point out the problems he could (and would) be facing, IMHO. He won't improve his tennis just by us hollering "ajde", "mi te volimo!" and so on :)

Anyway, Almagro's been knocked out, hence I expect Davydenko to reach 4th round relatively comfortably - and then there's a hard work for him: either Monfils or Nalbandian. Nalbandian is a favorite over Monfils in 3rd round (though a surprise can happen), and in Davydenko-Nalbandian clash the latter also has the upper hand: head-to-head score is 5-2 total and 3-1 on clay for Nalbandian. Therefore Davydenko has a big chance for not reaching QF. On the other hand, Davydenko has much better season so far and he seems to be up to his game, so there's a very interesting match in prospect (quite probably a 5-setter).

Scotso
05-31-2007, 09:19 AM
We're all very positive about Nole here - if we weren't, we wouldn't be on this message board, right? :) But believing in him doesn't imply we can't point out the problems he could (and would) be facing, IMHO. He won't improve his tennis just by us hollering "ajde", "mi te volimo!" and so on :)

To be honest, he won't improve his tennis based on anything we say. For one thing, he has other people to tell him what he's doing right or wrong, and for another, I seriously doubt he reads this message board.

Farenhajt
05-31-2007, 10:58 AM
First, you never know who's reading anyting, and second, it never hurts to have a proper conversation subject and fully formed sentences around.

savesthedizzle
05-31-2007, 10:59 AM
First, you never know who's reading anyting, and second, it never hurts to have a proper conversation subject and fully formed sentences around.

It doesn't hurt to have fun either :shrug: There's no problem balancing the two, it doesn't have to be one or the other.

People who enjoy cheering together and doing "ajde" and all that are not a problem, and neither are those who want to have serious discussion. Surely everyone can get along.

Farenhajt
05-31-2007, 11:39 AM
I second that 100%, savestheday. I just got an impression, from a few last posts, that noting and addressing the problems in Nole's play and/or draw somehow constitute an act of disloyalty to him - and nothing is farther from the truth.

Scotso
05-31-2007, 11:40 AM
First, you never know who's reading anyting, and second, it never hurts to have a proper conversation subject and fully formed sentences around.

You don't have to correct everything. It's a message board where we post about a sport. It's for fun, it doesn't need to be structured and proper.

Farenhajt
05-31-2007, 11:50 AM
It would be very polite of you (guys) if you first let me post some 100-200 messages before you tag me as "passive-aggressive know-it-all". It's a thin line between board-spammers and people who just want to exchange opinions. Also, it's a thin line between people who want to keep their board clean of loonies and partybreakers and who want to suppress any opinions they dislike.

marina988
05-31-2007, 11:55 AM
It doesn't hurt to have fun either :shrug: There's no problem balancing the two, it doesn't have to be one or the other.

People who enjoy cheering together and doing "ajde" and all that are not a problem, and neither are those who want to have serious discussion. Surely everyone can get along.

It doesn't matter if he reads this or not(but let's face it ,he probably doesn't)
But the point is that we feel better when we cheer and think he'll win the tournament!
And then this place becomes a much brighter place and actually a nice place to be at!!!!!!! :) :) :) :) :)

savesthedizzle
05-31-2007, 11:56 AM
It would be very polite of you (guys) if you first let me post some 100-200 messages before you tag me as "passive-aggressive know-it-all". It's a thin line between board-spammers and people who just want to exchange opinions. Also, it's a thin line between people who want to keep their board clean of loonies and partybreakers and who want to suppress any opinions they dislike.

Is this supposed to be directed at me? Because I am unaware of anything I have said or done to you to make you feel that way about me, considering I was the one that said there is room for fun and serious discussion here. :scratch:

savesthedizzle
05-31-2007, 11:58 AM
It doesn't matter if he reads this or not(but let's face it ,he probably doesn't)
But the point is that we feel better when we cheer and think he'll win the tournament!
And then this place becomes a much brighter place and actually a nice place to be at!!!!!!! :) :) :) :) :)

Exactly, and there is also a room for serious discussion so we aren't known as just a forum of fangirls ;) Basically there is room for both :)

This forum is not big enough for us to be turning on eachother. Really. Can't we all get along?

Farenhajt
05-31-2007, 12:01 PM
Is this supposed to be directed at me? Because I am unaware of anything I have said or done to you to make you feel that way about me, considering I was the one that said there is room for fun and serious discussion here. :scratch:

Please, do read my post directly after your next-to-last message (the one on people getting along) - I clearly didn't direct that at you. After that check the last Scotso's message.

I'm sorry if any misunderstanding occured.

jeahhh!
05-31-2007, 12:02 PM
:singer: WHY CAN'T WE BE FRIENDS...

kirkicica
05-31-2007, 12:07 PM
We can! ;)
serious conversation, and pointing out the problems or whatever are perfectly fine.
BUT!!! please be kind and wait till after the match. when he is playing. he is always good, we are always cheering, and he will always win! :worship:

Go NOLE!!

savesthedizzle
05-31-2007, 12:10 PM
Please, do read my post directly after your next-to-last message (the one on people getting along) - I clearly didn't direct that at you. After that check the last Scotso's message.

I'm sorry if any misunderstanding occured.

It's okay :) :hug: I'm sorry about any misunderstanding too.

btw I don't know if you were ever properly welcomed to the forum :awww: It's been a hectic time ;) :lol: So incase I didn't welcome you before, welcome!

uglyamerican
05-31-2007, 12:11 PM
Anyway, Almagro's been knocked out, hence I expect Davydenko to reach 4th round relatively comfortably - and then there's a hard work for him: either Monfils or Nalbandian. Nalbandian is a favorite over Monfils in 3rd round (though a surprise can happen), and in Davydenko-Nalbandian clash the latter also has the upper hand: head-to-head score is 5-2 total and 3-1 on clay for Nalbandian. Therefore Davydenko has a big chance for not reaching QF. On the other hand, Davydenko has much better season so far and he seems to be up to his game, so there's a very interesting match in prospect (quite probably a 5-setter).

Good analysis. :worship:

Almagro :sad: I'm not a fan of his, but he was suppose to beat Kolya.

Farenhajt
05-31-2007, 12:18 PM
We can! ;)
serious conversation, and pointing out the problems or whatever are perfectly fine.
BUT!!! please be kind and wait till after the match. when he is playing. he is always good, we are always cheering, and he will always win! :worship:

Go NOLE!!

Well, during the match (to be precise, during the infamous 2nd set), Scotso had some remarks of "stop farting around, Nole" kind... and that really doesn't fit into "we're always cheering and he's always the best" policy :)

Never mind, though, I believe we're all gonna express ourselves the best we can :)

Savestheday, thanks for the welcome :):) I'm already having good time here :) Are you Serbian-speaking?

savesthedizzle
05-31-2007, 12:24 PM
Well, during the match (to be precise, during the infamous 2nd set), Scotso had some remarks of "stop farting around, Nole" kind... and that really doesn't fit into "we're always cheering and he's always the best" policy :)

Never mind, though, I believe we're all gonna express ourselves the best we can :)

Savestheday, thanks for the welcome :):) I'm already having good time here :) Are you Serbian-speaking?

I am not, unfortunately. I use the flag to show my support for Nole as my favorite player, but I personally cannot speak it at all :sad:

jeahhh!
05-31-2007, 12:25 PM
:wavey:Welcome!:D

kirkicica
05-31-2007, 12:31 PM
Well, during the match (to be precise, during the infamous 2nd set), Scotso had some remarks of "stop farting around, Nole" kind... and that really doesn't fit into "we're always cheering and he's always the best" policy :)

Never mind, though, I believe we're all gonna express ourselves the best we can :)

Savestheday, thanks for the welcome :):) I'm already having good time here :) Are you Serbian-speaking?

Oh dear! of course there are some opposite examples, but don't be so picky. You got my point!

And I already welcomed you here. But maybe I should do it again. :wavey:

Farenhajt
05-31-2007, 02:06 PM
Hey, people, who's your bet for Nole's QF-opponent? Three names stand out: Baghdatis, Massu, Andreev - and among them it's almost a blind guess for me.

Massu and Andreev have an eye-to-eye later today, so the three names will come down to two.

savesthedizzle
05-31-2007, 02:10 PM
PHM has a shot too, although he can choke at any moment ;)

My gut instinct is Andreev, but if he loses to Massu, I think PHM. Baghdatis could go through depending on PHM's mental state. If Andreev beats Massu, I think Andreev, if he loses to Massu, then I think Mathieu.

I think.

It's very up in the air, definitely :)

Farenhajt
05-31-2007, 02:34 PM
Agreed :) So far the most interesting 3rd round matches appear to be J. C. Ferrero - M. Youzhny and the aftermath of the PHM-Simon-Massu-Andreev cluster.

Of course, Nole can always make his match with Patience extremely interesting by deciding to have some practice in hitting outs and dusting the net :) But I sincerely do hope he'll save us from such kind of nerve-wracking show tomorrow (or the day after).

savesthedizzle
05-31-2007, 02:39 PM
Agreed :) So far the most interesting 3rd round matches appear to be J. C. Ferrero - M. Youzhny and the aftermath of the PHM-Simon-Massu-Andreev cluster.

Yeah I agree. Ferrero-Youzhny.. :unsure: Hewitt-Nieminen could be interesting too.

Farenhajt
05-31-2007, 02:50 PM
Hewitt-Nieminen: Certainly Nieminen won't lay down and die, but I think Hewitt's game, such as it is, i.e. perceptibly below his best days, is still too much for the Finn. Perhaps four sets.

Ranko
05-31-2007, 07:48 PM
Honestly Nole's form is going downwards at the moment. He's not in form and I hope his game gets a lot better in the upcoming match against dangerous Patience who beat Davydenko at Estoril.

On the other hand David Ferrer is on fire, as he's playing maybe his best Roland Garros so far. He's a great clay courter like all Spaniards, and he's pretty experienced with the courts in Paris. Personally Nole should feel lucky to get over Ferrer.

Nole has a lot to fight for though, if he reaches the SF he'll be at least no.4 and probably no.3 (if Davydenko doesn't get to the SF), so with a lot of motivation he should be able to overcome Ferrer, but I wouldn't be surprised if he lost.

Cheers!

Scotso
05-31-2007, 08:38 PM
Well, during the match (to be precise, during the infamous 2nd set), Scotso had some remarks of "stop farting around, Nole" kind... and that really doesn't fit into "we're always cheering and he's always the best" policy :)

That was a joke. And it actually does fit in, since I think Nole is too good to be losing sets to a player like that.

You can't blame me for not really liking you that much when all you've really done since joining this forum is point out my flaws. :shrug: How about we just agree not to talk or discuss one another?

Farenhajt
05-31-2007, 08:55 PM
All I've really done? It all started from my statement that Nole lost to Ferrer in Monte Carlo, which no-one can deny happened, hence he could have some serious troubles in Garros QF, and your reaction was that of a disappointed fan-group leader: "He should've won that match, because Ferrer is a lesser player." Mind you, you doled that out yourself. And after that my main sin is that I can't (won't?) recognize "should've" as a valid argument, instead of "did".

Perhaps we should've pretended that Canas didn't knock out Federer twice in two weeks time, and should've let Federer go on with the tournaments because he "should've" won those matches? (And of course he "should've", but he didn't, period.)

As for my remark you quoted, it's purpose was to reply to kirkicica's remark, and your words were used solely as a fresh example which caught my eye. No disrespect towards you.

And above all, THE VERY LAST reason I joined this forum for is to run around and criticize people, you included. From my point of view, you started it - perhaps because I refuse to be mad about Nole in every conceivable way? I'm so sorry, but that's just the way it is: I prefer to keep my cool judgment even when being someone's VERY big fan.

Scotso
05-31-2007, 09:01 PM
From my point of view, you started it - perhaps because I refuse to be mad about Nole in every conceivable way? I'm so sorry, but that's just the way it is: I prefer to keep my cool judgment even when being someone's VERY big fan.

I never said anything about how anyone in this thread needs to act towards Nole. You came out and criticized me for being to happy and cheering with "ajde," etc. instead of having what you considered serious discussion. I don't want to always have serious discussion, and I'm not going to. I've been in Nole's little fan group here since it started, and I've behaved this very way the entire time. I'm not going to change just because you came along and don't like it.

So like I said, I think the best thing is for us just to ignore one another. You can have your stiff, serious debates and I won't question it. And I expect you to just put up with my frivolous cheering.

Farenhajt
05-31-2007, 09:13 PM
I really can't understand why exactly you felt under the spotlight, since there are at least a dozen or so people who generally like to cheer "ajde" etc., and I never singled out anyone - I just commented on what I saw around. (Forbidden? The natives have their rights over us newcomers, who have to be properly broken in?)

Personally, I'm much more into cheering in front of the TV (haven't got the opportunity to see Nole in live action yet, unfortunately). A message board seems to me as too slow a media for such an action.

Appendix: Again it's you who started dismissing me with something like "Nole and his people don't read this board anyway, so you're talking in vain and basically just stop being such a crashing bore", with a "passive-aggressive" tag thrown in for a good measure. It really is YOU who has a problem with me, not the other way round. Feel like talking about it?

Farenhajt
06-02-2007, 06:58 PM
Hey, I was right about Hewitt-Nieminen 3-1 ;) too bad I didn't put any money on it... :)

jennyian
06-03-2007, 07:29 AM
As long as we all support NolÚ it's okay. :D

Farenhajt
06-03-2007, 06:55 PM
So, Davydenko got through :(

Now he needs to lose to Canas (which is not inconceivable, since Canas is a bandit), and Nole must defeat both Verdasco and Baghdatis/Andreev (both of the last two he defeated in recent claycourt events) - in order for Nole to become #4.

savesthedizzle
06-03-2007, 06:57 PM
I'm feeling good about him beating Verdasco. And I'd feel pretty good about Baghdatis too. Baghdatis has had a good draw. It's Andreev who would start to worry me, and I think it should be Andreev he would face.

Farenhajt
06-03-2007, 07:01 PM
The real headline, though, would be "Nadal lost to Hewitt (Hamburg Act 2), Federer lost to Canas (yet again)"... :)

natashha
06-03-2007, 09:09 PM
So, Davydenko got through :(

Now he needs to lose to Canas (which is not inconceivable, since Canas is a bandit), and Nole must defeat both Verdasco and Baghdatis/Andreev (both of the last two he defeated in recent claycourt events) - in order for Nole to become #4.

If that happens (Nole reaches SF), he would jump to #3. :bounce:

uglyamerican
06-04-2007, 12:21 AM
If that happens (Nole reaches SF), he would jump to #3. :bounce:

That's true! I've been focused on Wimbledon seeding, and I forgot that the #3 ranking was up for grabs.

savesthedizzle
06-04-2007, 12:22 AM
:) I haven't forgotten :D

neenah
06-04-2007, 01:27 AM
Such great opportunities for Nole. :D It's great how he's really pushed through the top ten.

Scotso
06-04-2007, 01:33 AM
The SF awaits, Nole. Play better than you have been.

Farenhajt
06-04-2007, 05:35 AM
If that happens (Nole reaches SF), he would jump to #3. :bounce:

Oh yes, my bad. It seems I can't add :D

It would be great for him to reach #3 within the first half-season. That would leave him time to nail down the ranking till the year's end.

Farenhajt
06-04-2007, 09:59 AM
EDIT: I know why I made the mistake - subconsciously I counted on Davydenko reaching SF (but I still hope against it :)). In that case (if both D. and Nole go through), they both jump over Roddick to be #3 and #4 respectively.

Novak Dj
06-04-2007, 04:13 PM
Congrats for top5. Nole already has more than 400 race points 5 months before the end of season and that means he`ll play YEC for sure...

Scotso
06-05-2007, 01:06 AM
Back in the top 5 :rocker2: Time to move even higher :D

Baghdatis72
06-05-2007, 01:23 AM
Back in the top 5 :rocker2: Time to move even higher :D

If he beats Andreev and Davydenko loses to Canas then he will reach #3 since Roddick lost in the 1st round and they only have 120 pts difference (QF 2006 -----> SF 2007 = 200 pts extra) :D

Farenhajt
06-05-2007, 04:29 AM
For the time being, #4 would also be nice for Nole (he only needs to beat Andreev to be at least #4), since it would relieve him of some draw problems at Wimbledon (Fed and Rafa would be postponed till SF).

belco
06-05-2007, 03:27 PM
Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!! I want a victory over Andreev

Farenhajt
06-05-2007, 04:30 PM
Davydenko beats Canas 75 64 64 and goes to SF.

Since both Davydenko's chances against Fed and Nole's chances against Rafa (let's be realistic for a moment) are on the slimmish side, I think we can expect Nole to become official #4 on Monday. Which is great 2 weeks before Wimbledon.

adynadal
06-05-2007, 05:08 PM
in tennis they don`t give bronze medal for a 3rd place so if he`s not #1 i don`t really care if he`ll be 3rd or 4th!sooner or later he`ll be 3rd so with Wimbledon just few weeks from now it`s important to be in top 4!he has to win tomorrow and i know that he can do it!!!!and we all know that he`s the better and the much,much,much more talented player campared to Davuydenko and to 99,9% of the players as well!so the 3rd,2nd ans 1st spots will come very soon!!!Bravo Noleeeeeeeee!

Scotso
06-05-2007, 06:53 PM
He will eventually pass Nikolay, it's only a matter of time. It's about time Roddick loses his spot, though... he clearly hasn't been the #3 player in the world for a long time.

Hopefully Nole will win his QF and move to #4.

Farenhajt
06-06-2007, 08:57 AM
As far as I can tell, the bottom part of the top ten will look like this after RG:

7. Robredo 2200
8. Blake 2110
9. Murray 2085
10. Haas 2020

Question: Do Murray and Haas lose all their last-year points due to not participating this year? (If they do, the above is correct.) Or there's some point-protection mechanism? (If they're keeping their points, then it's 9. Haas 2095; 10. Murray 2090)

If Nole does what he should do today, then the top 5 (with Gonzalez trailing close behind) will have put a very comfortable gap between them and the last 4: projected #5 Roddick 2930, new #7 Robredo 2200.

Scotso
06-06-2007, 10:12 AM
The lose all their points, as far as I know.

ataptc
06-06-2007, 12:41 PM
So he is 4th now? :rocker2:

jeahhh!
06-06-2007, 12:43 PM
:banana: