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Basel too easy for federer??

abhinav_shaan
10-23-2006, 03:34 PM
i happened to look at the basel draw.. and fed's half is tooooo easy for him..
i mean i am a fed fan but this is just sick...

murray,nalby and gonzo all are in bottom half ..
so i guess another title without dropping a set..!!:worship:
provided that ankle is fine

RonE
10-23-2006, 03:41 PM
Don't jump to conclusions.

I remember in 2004 when he played Toronto he won the tournament beating Roddick in an awesome performance in the final and he had a pretty easy draw in Cincinnati.

Everyone wa saying "look what an easy draw, he is going to win this no problem". Result? He got knocked out in the first round by Hrbaty :o

R.Federer
10-23-2006, 03:41 PM
i happened to look at the basel draw.. and fed's half is tooooo easy for him..
i mean i am a fed fan but this is just sick...

murray,nalby and gonzo all are in bottom half ..
so i guess another title without dropping a set..!!:worship:
provided that ankle is fine

and he is half blind since the gonzo champagne too

buzz
10-23-2006, 03:45 PM
murray,nalby and gonzo all are in bottom half ..
so i guess another title without dropping a set..!!:worship:
provided that ankle is fine

he just beagled nalby and gonzo so I don't think they can make a lot of difference

Xristos
10-23-2006, 03:45 PM
Feliciano Lopez will win Basel.

Corey Feldman
10-23-2006, 03:48 PM
he could face a QF with Jiri Novak... swiss title specialist and 4 wins over him before.

TennisGrandSlam
10-23-2006, 03:48 PM
I think no

He should be very tired. :devil:

In fact, he never win Basel title (it is wonderful that Roger win Tokyo and AMS Madrid titles first time)

Is it easy to win 3 consecutive first-time titles? :confused:

stratomaster
10-23-2006, 03:58 PM
He's probably not going to drop a set again.

TennisMan85
10-23-2006, 04:01 PM
Feliciano Lopez will win Basel.

no chance man...

Puschkin
10-23-2006, 04:02 PM
Everyone wa saying "look what an easy draw, he is going to win this no problem". Result? He got knocked out in the first round by Hrbaty :o

That's exactly what I am worried about, and I am not the constant worrier ;) . But I have something at stake: I am flying in on Thursday.

Preston
10-23-2006, 04:49 PM
He just killed Nalby & Gonzo last week. Though I do believe that Murrey upset him last time they matched up. But still, reallly, what tourney that's not played on Clay isn't "easy" for Ferderer.

Xristos
10-23-2006, 04:59 PM
no chance man...

Trust me.

PamV
10-23-2006, 06:03 PM
i happened to look at the basel draw.. and fed's half is tooooo easy for him..
i mean i am a fed fan but this is just sick...

murray,nalby and gonzo all are in bottom half ..
so i guess another title without dropping a set..!!:worship:
provided that ankle is fine

The question is how will Federer, Nalbandian, and Gonzalez perform after just coming back from Madrid SF and F ??? They are likely not to be at their best. Roger looked kind of pale and sweaty as if he had a cold during the Madrid tournament. He was wearning a huge scarf around his neck in a post match interview.

PamV
10-23-2006, 06:08 PM
Don't jump to conclusions.

I remember in 2004 when he played Toronto he won the tournament beating Roddick in an awesome performance in the final and he had a pretty easy draw in Cincinnati.

Everyone wa saying "look what an easy draw, he is going to win this no problem". Result? He got knocked out in the first round by Hrbaty :o

So maybe it is more a question of fatigue and ability to switch sufaces and conditions and get used to that. I hope Roger can win this title as it means a lot to him and it would give him 250 Indiest points....putting him at 8,120.

Allez
10-23-2006, 06:42 PM
No. It's a tough draw & he's tired & injured. Look what happened in Cincy :eek:

Yappa
10-23-2006, 06:51 PM
No. It's a tough draw & he's tired & injured. Look what happened in Cincy :eek:

So it's "Murray wins against sleepy/tired Federer" time again? ;)

tennisgal_001
10-23-2006, 06:56 PM
So it's "Murray wins against sleepy/tired Federer" time again? ;)

hehe...no it's just 'Allez' being herself and looking at the empty half of the cup when it comes to Federer:p

Frooty_Bazooty
10-23-2006, 07:03 PM
I cant see Roger losing til he bumps into whoever is in the final. but the important thing though is that he has as tough a time as possible in reaching it. If he loses concentration and drops a set in the early rounds, that could snowball into his match the next day in the form of fatigue. If it continues, he could find himself exhausted in a final against Nalbandian, Murray or Henman.

Naranoc
10-23-2006, 07:23 PM
Definitely want to see a Murray/Federer final. He would only slaughter the other two, and at least Andy has the psychological advantage of knowing that he defeated him in straights the last they met.

(and of course I'll get to see the usual MTF eruption if Federer loses :D)

Kip
10-23-2006, 07:25 PM
Definitely want to see a Murray/Federer final. He would only slaughter the other two, and at least Andy has the psychological advantage of knowing that he defeated him in straights the last they met.

(and of course I'll get to see the usual MTF eruption if Federer loses :D)

I somehow doubt that.

DDrago2
10-23-2006, 07:28 PM
Federer got "uncle Tony" draw this time, all the tough ones are in the other half. Novak WAS tough for Federer, but he is nothing like he was. It's an easy ride for Federer to the finals and possibly to the title

Naranoc
10-23-2006, 07:29 PM
It's still an advantage, however miniscule. :shrug:

Allez
10-23-2006, 07:31 PM
So it's "Murray wins against sleepy/tired Federer" time again? ;)

Everyone knows Rogi should not have played Cincy. He probably thought he could wing it and just win on memory alone. Well Murray as we've all come to realise is no slouch. He beat him fair and square because Roger knew what he was getting himself into. He probably wanted to double his USO prize money by winning the USO series.:rolleyes:

It's not just Cincy. Roger struggled in Halle as well and grass is his favourite surface. Too much tennis. He's only playing Basel as a tribute to his home fans. If it had been anywhere else he would have skipped it. You can quote me on that ;) If he somehow manages to pull Basel off, I just can't see him going to Paris.:mad:

stebs
10-23-2006, 07:49 PM
It's still an advantage, however miniscule. :shrug:

I disagree. I think it is a disadvantage. It can be an advantage if it is a very good player who might be able to trouble Federer with aggresive play and great shots or get into his head like Nadal. For Murray it will just make Federer more determined, Federer won't be the least bit scared of Murray.

Naranoc
10-23-2006, 07:51 PM
Federer won't be the least bit scared of Murray.

No faith in your countryman? I'm disappointed :)

cmurray
10-23-2006, 08:38 PM
I disagree. I think it is a disadvantage. It can be an advantage if it is a very good player who might be able to trouble Federer with aggresive play and great shots or get into his head like Nadal. For Murray it will just make Federer more determined, Federer won't be the least bit scared of Murray.

I agree. Murray isn't consistent enough to really truly worry Roger. As Roger said, he half expected to lose in the first round, so I don't think it bothered him very much.

Of any current players, I think the only true threats Roger has are Rafa and Safin...and Safin mostly because he's so unpredictable that you can never be sure which one you're going to get.

Lullaby
10-23-2006, 08:43 PM
I think murray has more of a chance of troubling fed in the final than of even getting to the final in the first place lol ;)

canbera
10-23-2006, 10:23 PM
well, if FedEx is going to win Basel, I see him pulling out of Paris. He will need the power for Shanghai.

guga2120
10-23-2006, 10:25 PM
of course he will win, he will just roll through it. I just hope he plays Paris.

scoobs
10-23-2006, 11:01 PM
Much as I like Andy Murray, the next time he and Federer meet, Roger will be out to settle a score and prove a point. You only have to look at Berdych, Gasquet and Nalbandian to see the response he generally comes up with to a disappointing loss - he goes out and beats them solidly the next time, and the next, and the next...only Nadal of his losses in the last couple of years has been able to escape that.

Allez
10-23-2006, 11:21 PM
Much as I like Andy Murray, the next time he and Federer meet, Roger will be out to settle a score and prove a point. You only have to look at Berdych, Gasquet and Nalbandian to see the response he generally comes up with to a disappointing loss - he goes out and beats them solidly the next time, and the next, and the next...only Nadal of his losses in the last couple of years has been able to escape that.

Who's to say that Murray isn't the next Nadal :shrug:

scarecrows
10-23-2006, 11:53 PM
Uncle Toni has rigged the draw

Naranoc
10-23-2006, 11:57 PM
^ Indeed. It has become a cultured hobby of his, irrespective of who he's rigging it for :lol:

Rogiman
10-23-2006, 11:59 PM
Federer doesn't need any help with the draw, he's won with all kinds of draws and doesn't need to prove anything anymore.

But thank you Uncle Toni for your kind help anyway :)

scoobs
10-24-2006, 12:04 AM
Who's to say that Murray isn't the next Nadal :shrug:

Well I don't think he has the style of play that instinctively puts Roger in difficulty for one thing. Murray is tenacious but much easier to attack successfully.

Lullaby
10-24-2006, 12:33 AM
Much as I like Andy Murray, the next time he and Federer meet, Roger will be out to settle a score and prove a point. You only have to look at Berdych, Gasquet and Nalbandian to see the response he generally comes up with to a disappointing loss - he goes out and beats them solidly the next time, and the next, and the next...only Nadal of his losses in the last couple of years has been able to escape that.

Yep next time they meet he is going to dish out a butt whipping if he has his way :eek:

scoobs
10-24-2006, 12:43 AM
Indeed.

In any case, back on topic, I don't think this will be in Basel - even with a tired Gonzalez and a Nalbandian in poor form, both are focused on making the TMC and I don't fancy Murray's chances of getting by them to even make the final.

Phillipcountry1
10-24-2006, 12:52 AM
Indeed.

In any case, back on topic, I don't think this will be in Basel - even with a tired Gonzalez and a Nalbandian in poor form, both are focused on making the TMC and I don't fancy Murray's chances of getting by them to even make the final.


I agree.

World Beater
10-24-2006, 04:27 AM
win/or lose, basel draw is really pathetic as was his tokyo draw. federer could lose but this doesnt mean his draw is hard. easy/hard draw has a predictive value and is not a post-mortem effect.

but he's proven himself against everyone almost everywhere, something some are yet to do.

corporalclegg
10-24-2006, 06:29 AM
I think he might be too tired and he will not perform his best, but he might still win, and that's how good he is.

Purple Rainbow
10-24-2006, 08:17 AM
Why do players want to be in a tournament when they know Federer will play too? Lyon is just around the corner, you know?

Jaffas85
10-24-2006, 10:24 AM
With all of these tournaments Federer should at least be sitting on 8500 points by the end of November.

FSRteam
10-24-2006, 10:33 AM
Everyone knows Rogi should not have played Cincy. He probably thought he could wing it and just win on memory alone. Well Murray as we've all come to realise is no slouch. He beat him fair and square because Roger knew what he was getting himself into. He probably wanted to double his USO prize money by winning the USO series.:rolleyes:

It's not just Cincy. Roger struggled in Halle as well and grass is his favourite surface. Too much tennis. He's only playing Basel as a tribute to his home fans. If it had been anywhere else he would have skipped it. You can quote me on that ;) If he somehow manages to pull Basel off, I just can't see him going to Paris.:mad:

Not as a tribute to his home fans but because he BADLY wants to win his tournament eventually!!!

FSRteam
10-24-2006, 10:43 AM
If gonzo and nalby wanted to get points for TMC, they should've gone to lyon or st-petersburg! ;)

I think murray will be kicked out 1st round by del potro!!! ;)

Lullaby
10-24-2006, 11:47 AM
The sun today said he (murray) has the same virus as others from madrid and is pulling out!