~#~Has the ONCE meteoric career of JUAN CARLOS F`s collapsed??*Titleless in 3-YEARS [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

~#~Has the ONCE meteoric career of JUAN CARLOS F`s collapsed??*Titleless in 3-YEARS

CmonAussie
10-23-2006, 02:48 PM
:wavey: ->>What do you guys/gals thinks...is Ferrero`s career virtually over or can he have a 2nd coming & still win titles plus challenge for slams:confused:
*If Ferrero never wins a title again then his career would probably be considered the most spectacular fall ever for a former #1:eek: .. Since he became #1 at the USO Open in 2003 he`s only won one more title~ at the Madrid TMS in October 2003:sad: !
So his titleless draught has extended to 3-years & despite a fine display at Cincinatti this year it appears possible that he may never win anything ever again:o


Titles [11]
1. 13 September 1999 Majorca, Spain Clay Alex Corretja (Spain) 2-6 7-5 6-3
2. 26 September 2001 Dubai, UAE Hard Marat Safin (Russia) 6-2 3-1 ret.
3. 9 April 2001 Estoril, Portugal Clay Felix Mantilla (Spain) 7-6 3 4-6 6-3
4. 23 April 2001 Barcelona, Spain Clay Carlos Moya (Spain) 4-6 7-5 6-3 3-6 7-5
5. 7 May 2001 Rome, Italy Clay Gustavo Kuerten (Brazil) 3-6 6-1 2-6 6-4 6-2
6. 15 April 2002 Monte Carlo, Monaco Clay Carlos Moya (Spain) 7-5 6-3 6-4
7. 23 September 2002 Hong Kong, China Hard Carlos Moya (Spain) 6-3 1-6 7-64
8. 14 April 2003 Monte Carlo, Monaco Clay Guillermo Coria (Argentina) 6-2 6-2
9. 28 April 2003 Valencia, Spain Clay Christophe Rochus (Belgium) 6-2 6-4
10. 26 May 2003 French Open, Paris, France Clay Martin Verkerk (Netherlands) 6-1 6-3 6-2
11. 13 October 2003 Madrid, Spain Hard Nicolás Massú (Chile) 6-3 6-4 6-3


Singles Finalist (13)
2000: Dubai (lost to Nicolas Kiefer)
2000: Barcelona (lost to Marat Safin)
2001: Hamburg Masters (lost to Albert Portas)
2001: Gstaad (lost to Jiri Novak)
2002: French Open (lost to Albert Costa)
2002: Kitzbuhel (lost to Alex Corretja)
2002: Tennis Masters Cup (lost to Lleyton Hewitt)
2003: Sydney (lost to Hyung-Taik Lee)
2003: U.S. Open (lost to Andy Roddick)
2003: Bangkok (lost to Taylor Dent)
2004: Rotterdam (lost to Lleyton Hewitt)
2005: Barcelona (lost to Rafael Nadal)
2005: Vienna (lost to Ivan Ljubicic)
2006: Cincinnati TMS (lost to Andy Roddick)

Action Jackson
10-23-2006, 02:50 PM
Wilander's fall was worse when he became number 1.

CmonAussie
10-23-2006, 02:53 PM
Wilander's fall was worse when he became number 1.
:wavey:
I`d have to disagree;) .. Wilander still won some titles & SF at AO a couple of years after his #1 year.. Whereas Ferrero has been unable to do much at all since he lost momentum after getting injured early in 2004:eek:

Action Jackson
10-23-2006, 02:56 PM
:wavey:
I`d have to disagree;) .. Wilander still won some titles & SF at AO a couple of years after his #1 year.. Whereas Ferrero has been unable to do much at all since he lost momentum after getting injured early in 2004:eek:

He won 1 title in Brazil after he became #1 he was never the same and as for Ferrero will the game moves on and his shots aren't as good as they used to be and other players can get to him now.

TennisGrandSlam
10-23-2006, 02:59 PM
:wavey:
I`d have to disagree;) .. Wilander still won some titles & SF at AO a couple of years after his #1 year.. Whereas Ferrero has been unable to do much at all since he lost momentum after getting injured early in 2004:eek:

If mosquito could beat A-Rod in US Open 2003, he may create his dynasty, but he couldn't. :o

AnnaK_4ever
10-23-2006, 03:24 PM
:wavey: ->>What do you guys/gals thinks...is Ferrero`s career virtually over or can he have a 2nd coming & still win titles plus challenge for slams:confused:
*If Ferrero never wins a title again then his career would probably be considered the most spectacular fall ever for a former #1:eek: .. [B]Since he became #1 at the USO Open in 2003 he`s only won one more title~ at the Madrid TMS in October 2003:sad: !
So his titleless draught has extended to 3-years & despite a fine display at Cincinatti this year it appears possible that he may never win anything ever again:o


His downfall has so many similarities to Myskina's one. :eek:

Ferrero rose to career-high (No.1) after USO-2003.
Myskina rose to career-high (No.2) after USO-2004.

Ferrero then won his home Masters tournament (Madrid) in October 2003.
Myskina then won her home Tier I tournament (Moscow) in October 2004.

Since then Ferrero has reached just one significant final - this summer in pre-US Open Cincinnati beating his more successful compatriot Nadal and losing to eventual US Open runner-up Roddick.
Since then Myskina has reached just one significant final - this summer in pre-Wimbledon Eastbourne beating her more successful compatriot Kuznetsova and losing to eventual Wimbledon runner-up Henin.

TennisGrandSlam
10-23-2006, 03:28 PM
His downfall has so many similarities to Myskina's one. :eek:

Ferrero rose to career-high (No.1) after USO-2003.
Myskina rose to career-high (No.2) after USO-2004.

Ferrero then won his home Masters tournament (Madrid) in October 2003.
Myskina then won her home Tier I tournament (Moscow) in October 2004.

Since then Ferrero has reached just one significant final - this summer in pre-US Open Cincinnati beating his more successful compatriot Nadal and losing to eventual US Open runner-up Roddick.
Since then Myskina has reached just one significant final - this summer in pre-Wimbledon Eastbourne beating her more successful compatriot Kuznetsova and losing to eventual Wimbledon runner-up Henin.



Myskina = Majoli (One Slam Wonder)

But Ferrero is One Slam Wonder and Two Slam finalists

AnnaK_4ever
10-23-2006, 03:35 PM
Myskina = Majoli (One Slam Wonder)

But Ferrero is One Slam Wonder and Two Slam finalists

What does it change?
Both were Slam champions and established Top 10 players and both of them suck right now.
Though I agree Juan Carlos has been better player.

Boris Franz Ecker
10-23-2006, 03:37 PM
Ferrero is done.
No chance for a comeback.
He randomly reached the Cincinnati final, without that he would be in the rankings where he belongs to, around no 55, 60 in the world.
He isn't better anymore.

Boris Franz Ecker
10-23-2006, 03:44 PM
Myskina = Majoli (One Slam Wonder)

But Ferrero is One Slam Wonder and Two Slam finalists

Myskina was player of the year in 2004, elected by the ITF and therefore an ITF world champion (I would have elected Sharapova or Henin).

TennisGrandSlam
10-23-2006, 03:55 PM
Myskina was player of the year in 2004, elected by the ITF and therefore an ITF world champion (I would have elected Sharapova or Henin).

ITF World Champion is based on

1. Grand Slam
2. Davis Cup / FED Cup
3. Olympic Games

Myskina was ITF World Champion 2004 because she was

1. Roland Garros Winner
2. Member of FED Cup Winner
3. 4th in Athens Olympic Games


Likewises, Becker was ITF World Champion 1989 not only because of his dual titles in Wimbledon and US Open (even though 5 titles), but also his winning Davis Cup.

Lendl was Year End NO.1 of 1989 without any arguement (10 titles w/ Australian Open, runner-up of US Open and SF of Wimbledon) :wavey:

LK_22
10-23-2006, 04:12 PM
I can see Myskina coming back (maybe not to No.2 but close :) )

GlennMirnyi
10-23-2006, 05:15 PM
Yeah, his career is over.

Exodus
10-23-2006, 05:38 PM
who is ferrero lol

Bad Religion
10-23-2006, 05:54 PM
Myskina = Majoli (One Slam Wonder)

But Ferrero is One Slam Wonder and Two Slam finalists


Myskina was number 2 of the world and Majoli 4 as best ranking .

Myskina has 10 titles and Majoli won 7 ... 10 > 7


You can not compare , Myskina is better . :)

alfonsojose
10-23-2006, 05:59 PM
Myskina hasn't fell that hard .. yet. Being Jurgen's girlfriend will help? :shrug:

Jimnik
10-23-2006, 06:43 PM
Myskina will make a come-back next year.

Himura
10-23-2006, 09:06 PM
It`s sad to see a player like Ferrero not compete with Fed`s, Nadal and the rest. How much more fun wouldn`t be to have Ferrero, Guga, Hewitt, Coria and Safin (but he is back soon) back at top shape.

rmb6687
10-23-2006, 09:58 PM
This thread is incredibly depressing, not only because I too wish he was back in top form, but because the chances of that happening are so small. It was great to see him and Roddick in that final over the summer, unfortunately we will probably have to move on and stopped dreaming. Hewitt, roddick, ferrero et al may all make comebacks at some point, but probably not at the same time...no matter how much I wish they would.

World Beater
10-24-2006, 02:46 AM
what about moya or kafelnikov?

same story?

JW10S
10-24-2006, 04:36 AM
JCF has officially jumped the shark.

CmonAussie
10-24-2006, 10:47 AM
what about moya or kafelnikov?

same story?
:wavey:
....
Moya`s case is quite different;) //

1995 – Buenos Aires
1996 – Umag
1997 – Long Island
1998 – French Open, Monte Carlo~~>>become #1
2000 – Estoril
2001 – Umag
2002 – Cincinnati Masters, Acapulco, Båstad, Umag
2003 – Barcelona, Buenos Aires, Umag
2004 – Rome Masters, Acapulco, Chennai
2005 – Chennai
2006 - Buenos Aires

Exodus
10-24-2006, 11:11 AM
maybe it's because he dated maria sharapova lol she stole his mojo just like she did roddick